Married Cousins, Know Any?

[alohabear]

When I got married 6 years ago I remember seeing on the application that in Hawaii it is legal to marry your cousin, as long as you are not blood. That being said do any of you out there on the HT boards know ANYONE who actually did?

[Miulang]

When I got married 6 years ago I remember seeing on the application that in Hawaii it is legal to marry your cousin, as long as you are not blood. That being said do any of you out there on the HT boards know ANYONE who actually did?
Yes, but they weren't married for long (they were second cousins)!

Miulang

[Lei Liko]

From the DOH website:

Cousins may marry. However, the blood relationship between the prospective bride and groom cannot be closer than first cousins.

Somebody tell me what that means? How can you be closer than first cousins?

[Leo Lakio]

Somebody tell me what that means? How can you be closer than first cousins?I believe the statements are independent of each other, meaning that the "first cousin" level is as close as you can get overall, not just within the context of "cousinhood," i.e., no parent/child or sibling marriages.

[oceanpacific]

From the DOH website:



Somebody tell me what that means? How can you be closer than first cousins?

There is another category called "double cousins." These are cousins who are related through BOTH parents. Two brothers married to two sisters - their progeny are "double cousins." The most extreme would be identical twins married to identical twins - their offspring would genetically be "brother-sister."

The closest I know are "calabash cousins" married to each other. They are NOT blood-related to each other, but share the same first cousin through different sides of the family tree.

[helen]

Got a first cousin who is married to a third or fouth cousin.

[alohabear]

When I lived in Ka'u we often heard of first cousins having kids together all the time , mostly in the small places in South kona and Miloli'i. We came across many kids in the special education program from these areas.I often heard they got together to pass on the family blood and culture.

[Miulang]

When I lived in Ka'u we often heard of first cousins having kids together all the time , mostly in the small places in South kona and Miloli'i. We came across many kids in the special education program from these areas.I often heard they got together to pass on the family blood and culture.
Isn't that what the ali'i used to do?

[Pua'i Mana'o]

When I got married 6 years ago I remember seeing on the application that in Hawaii it is legal to marry your cousin, as long as you are not blood. That being said do any of you out there on the HT boards know ANYONE who actually did?

Outside of Niihauans, I don't know of any first cousins marrying. But second cousins? Several couples come to mind. The kids are all ok <twitch>

[alohabear]

Isn't that what the ali'i used to do?
Is it known if any Ali'i were born lope?

[SusieMisajon]

It happens all the time in this town. One of my friends has two of his brothers married to two sisters, who are first cousins.

[Leo Lakio]

It happens all the time in this town. One of my friends has two of his brothers married to two sisters, who are first cousins.Oh, those crazy, "romantic" French...

[Eric]

It happens all the time in this town. One of my friends has two of his brothers married to two sisters, who are first cousins.

Oh, those crazy, "romantic" French...

It's not just the French. Two of my dad's sisters married two brothers, back in 1940s-era North Kohala. I suspect it happens fairly often in small towns with large families.

[tikiyaki]

I have a very good friend who's parents are first cousins...
As a result, my friend is very "odd" looking. Smart, but very odd looking.

[tutusue]

It's not just the French. Two of my dad's sisters married two brothers, back in 1940s-era North Kohala. I suspect it happens fairly often in small towns with large families.
Were the 2 brothers cousins of your dad and his sisters?

[Adri]

For some reason, I thought second cousins could marry but not first cousins due to incest laws but it does appear that it's ok to marry first cousins in Hawaii.

[Eric]

Were the 2 brothers cousins of your dad and his sisters?No, the two families weren't previously related. I was thinking more about oceanpacific's earlier comment about "double cousins", which is what my cousins on that side of the family are to each other.