sewage backing up mayor wright housing

[shaveice]

on the channel 2 news about 10 minutes ago, they reported a situation that is just unacceptable. apparently, there's a unit that has had untreated sewage coming up through the toilet, the sink and tub! and this hasn't been going on for days or weeks or months but years!

the state office is saying that it's a city issue and a city rep is saying that it's a state issue!

the woman who went to channel 2 about it is caregiver to two senior citizens who live in that unit.

absolutely shameful...

[1stwahine]

heheheh

Nothing new.

I've had it happen to me two times since I've lived here. Wait. Three times.:eek: It's horrors and it's STINKY! First the bubbles comes outta the bathtub. Den da KAKA'S...all ova. It's a MESS! One time it was the night before Thanksgiving. The head of Maintenance came.

Two weeks later, the problem arose again. WORSE. The KAKA'S reached my two rooms. The maintenance came to fix and disinfect my whole hale. The problem ~ they found diapers, tampons, hairbrush, etc. inside the line.:rolleyes:

Last week, the Office sent a letter to tenants reminding ALL about not throwing items into their toilets. Some people's children just do not know how to use a toilet properly.

Yes, we have problems at MWH. More than meets the eye. Worse than "Toilet Problems!" I've been writing about it a looong time.:rolleyes: You wanna know about RATS? Plezzzzzzzzzzzz.....It ain't no Jerry, das foa sure!

http://www.auntiepupule.com/blog/index.php?id=740

But it's my Hale. I got a roof ova my head. I keep it clean.

Auntie Lynn

[shaveice]

oh, so it's cuz the kids are throwing stuff into the toilets? i thought it was simply due to neglect...

read your posting about the big rat: !!!

[1stwahine]

oh, so it's cuz the kids are throwing stuff into the toilets? i thought it was simply due to neglect...

read your posting about the big rat: !!!

Unfortunately, can't blame it ALL on the kids...it's the ADULTS too.:o

Mahalo for reading my Blog.:p

A:D untie Lynn

[pzarquon]

So is it a state issue or a city issue?

As for the mechanics of what's happening, it's not limited to Mayor Wright Housing. It happens in apartment buildings all the time. We had a couple of awful surprises in our bathtub when we lived in Makiki.

With enough crap clogging the pipes further down the line, followed by enough crap forced into the pipes from other units and higher floors, eventually crap is going to come out somewhere else. In a manner of speaking. :p

Our apartment was configured such that the kitchen sink drain was pretty closely linked up to our bathtub drain. Sometimes just running the disposal with the sink full of water was enough to create enough backwards pressure to find leftovers on the other side of the wall!

[1stwahine]

One of the things I wanted to do "if" I got elected as President of MWH was hold classes on how to 'CLEAN' one's hale. Most of the tenants are recent immigrants and do not, I repeat DO NOT know how to properly clean their HALE.:( They do not know the simple chore of disposing their opala.

Yesterday, the crew went around to clean up the Christmas Mess. This morning ...no look like anything was done. The blame is not ALL on Management. It's on the Tenants too.:o

The buildings are old and in need of repair. My own unit needs to be painted for the past two years. My ceiling in my kitchen is peeling. But I no grumble..get to many others who have ukapila problems den me.

It's a State Problem. We are a State Housing Project.;)

Auntie Lynn

[AlohaKine]

I have been to MWH. Had a girlfriend that lived there. Looked like a mess to me. Just because a family is poor doesn't make it right. The government should do their job for a change. They own it - fix it.

Her house was also a mess. But I don't give it any mind.

[shaveice]

on the http://www.khon2.com/ homepage, they've got a link to the story via a video file.

[1stwahine]

I've lived at Mayor Wright Housing for the past ten years. Raised my children here. Not all residents are Poor.:rolleyes: Rent is determined by the household's income. We've got many residents who are self-employed. People who can't afford the outrageous rents of the Private Sector. Unfortunately, Public Housing is suppose to be temporary. "Suppose to be." However, somewhere over the course of years, many found themselves becoming new generations of Public Housing Residents. Unable to break away from the system. Why? Because of the Price of Rent.

We have rules and regulations to follow.

Mayor Wright Housing is in need of repair. Wait. I take that back. It needs to be DEMOLISHED! We have buildings that are sinking. We have apartments that are leaking sewage from upstairs units. There's an apartment with huge cracks from wall to wall. An incident of a rat biting a resident while asleep.

MWH is one full Block. The amount of space can be utilized to build more adequate housing that is safe and healthy for all concern.

Tenant Association? HAHAHAHAHA Plezzzzzzzzzz....Don't let me get STARTED!

Just my opinion.

Auntie Lynn

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[WindwardOahuRN]

So is it a state issue or a city issue?

As for the mechanics of what's happening, it's not limited to Mayor Wright Housing. It happens in apartment buildings all the time. We had a couple of awful surprises in our bathtub when we lived in Makiki.

With enough crap clogging the pipes further down the line, followed by enough crap forced into the pipes from other units and higher floors, eventually crap is going to come out somewhere else. In a manner of speaking. :p

Our apartment was configured such that the kitchen sink drain was pretty closely linked up to our bathtub drain. Sometimes just running the disposal with the sink full of water was enough to create enough backwards pressure to find leftovers on the other side of the wall!

It happens in private houses, too.

A few days after we moved in here a disgusting chunky mass of vile liquid bubbled up into the bathtub and sinks. The plumber said it was because of roots that had gotten into the drain pipes. Pipes that were under the concrete floor, of course. He said if it happened again we'd have to have the floors dug up and the pipes replaced. OMG.

A friend was quite pleased with the brand new disposal that her husband had installed in the kitchen sink. She merrily prepared Thanksgiving dinner, stuffing the sweet potato and potato skins, vegetable peelings, apple cores, and even the turkey innards into the disposal.

Unbeknownst to her, she was decorating her bathroom walls with every flip of the disposal switch. :eek:

[Glen Miyashiro]

A friend was quite pleased with the brand new disposal that her husband had installed in the kitchen sink. She merrily prepared Thanksgiving dinner, stuffing the sweet potato and potato skins, vegetable peelings, apple cores, and even the turkey innards into the disposal.

Unbeknownst to her, she was decorating her bathroom walls with every flip of the disposal switch. :eek:I'm amazed at the amount of downwards hydraulic pressure that a garbage disposal puts on a sewage drain pipe. I always thought that the disposal blades just whirled round and round and chopped stuff up -- but they also push everything down. I guess it's like having a little propeller in your drain.

So if the drain can't smoothly handle that high of a flow rate moving DOWN to the main sewer line, because you've got a clog, then the stuff accumulates and gets forced in whatever other directions are available -- like SIDEWAYS to the second basin of the kitchen sink, if you have one. Or if not, then it goes SIDEWAYS to the next nearest drain pipe junction, like where your kitchen drain pipe meets your bathroom drain pipe. And then back UP to your bathtub... and your bathroom sink... and your toilet. :p

[Miulang]

It turns out that garbage disposals shouldn't be used for disposing all food. One thing that really gums up the works is cooked rice. Learned the hard way that dumping rice down the disposal and not flushing the line adequately with water will cause the rice to expand and clog the plumbing up. So now I just throw the rice into the garbage can. You can't dump grease down the disposal, either, unless it's solidified and can be ground up.

Miulang

[1stwahine]

Great "Information" about gARBAGE Disposals!;) However, at good OLD MWH...no moa gARBAGE Disposals!:p

Also, when get problems and we call maintenance ~ we get charged a FEE!:eek:

Das why some people no like call wen get PROBLEMS.

Dey wait until dee problem get too BIG!

Auntie Lynn

[Kahalu'u Kid]

A friend of mine who works for the state said Hawaii's sewage system is a joke. Very, very old, bad design, etc.. If the state is gonna wait until a sewage main breaks (like in Waikiki) before doing something about it, I highly doubt they care about the Mayor Wright's situation. Auwe.

[1stwahine]

A friend of mine who works for the state said Hawaii's sewage system is a joke. Very, very old, bad design, etc.. If the state is gonna wait until a sewage main breaks (like in Waikiki) before doing something about it, I highly doubt they care about the Mayor Wright's situation. Auwe.

You're absolutely correct. They don't care...look at the odda problems that exists. Pua Lane, Drugs, Gangs, Robberies, Domestic Abuse, Cultural Clashes, Murders, etc. etc. They care for a little while when it makes the News den after a while dey forget as always until the next problem arise.

Den they say "Oh! We neva know it was that bad!"

Plezzzzzzzzz. Who dey fooling?

Not the residents who live here. The reality ~ we can't really do nuttin. We have a roof ova our heads. Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of the System. Like it or not ~ we are better off den living on the Streets.

I live here cause I want to. For the majority, they have no choice.

Auntie Lynn

[joshuatree]

Curious, but do you think mayor wright housing should just be razed and perhaps redone from scratch to eradicate the many problems that plague the place?

[1stwahine]

Curious, but do you think mayor wright housing should just be razed and perhaps redone from scratch to eradicate the many problems that plague the place?

Answered in Post #9 ~ MAHALO

Mayor Wright Housing is in need of repair. Wait. I take that back. It needs to be DEMOLISHED! We have buildings that are sinking. We have apartments that are leaking sewage from upstairs units. There's an apartment with huge cracks from wall to wall. An incident of a rat biting a resident while asleep.

MWH is one full Block. The amount of space can be utilized to build more adequate housing that is safe and healthy for all concern.

Just my opinion.

Auntie Lynn

[joshuatree]

Doh! My bad, should have scrolled higher up. :D

[1stwahine]

Doh! My bad, should have scrolled higher up. :D

No need to apologize. It's great to keep this thread ALIVE! Hopefully, someone in "High Office" will read or hear about it and something will get done. The Internet is powerful.;)

There is hope. Karl Rhoads was elected as our Representative. However, the reality is he won't be able to do much in his first term. He needs to get re-elected a second and third time before he gets any real attention or power. That's Politics. The good news ~ he's been an aide to a Senator for years and knows the system well enough. He's bright, has compassion and has walked his District personally. He has seen the problems up close and has talked to the residents one be one at MWH. This time we have a Voice in Office.

As for the residents...unfortunately, intimidation still exists. Out of fear, most don't want to get involved. There was an Election held which was tainted by voters as young as fourteen years old. I put in a verbal complaint the day after. Management still acknowledged the Election. I told them I wouldn't run again, I just wanted an election that was just and right for my fellow residents. ID's was supposed to be asked and shown. None was. Discrepancies? Too many to count. :(

It's been several months since the Election. No change. No accountability of where funds was used ~ over $5,000.

They can't stop me from holding "Coffee Time" at my Hale with my neighbors who want to make a difference. We have rights. We don't acknowledge a Mickey Mouse Tenant Association.

I don't apologize for my rant this morning.heheheh

I'm getting rid of the ugly and the past.

I'm looking forward to 2007!

Eh! Governor Lingle!!! You reading!

Auntie Lynn

[joshuatree]

Hopefully something can be done. It amazes me how MWH and Kukui Gardens are right next to each other but the level of problems between the two is so great. I grew up in Kukui Gardens and remember seeing the late night police responses to MWH.

[GeckoGeek]

Demolishing and rebuilding would fix the structural issues with the buildings, but is sure sounds like the problems run deeper then that.

[Miulang]

Demolishing and rebuilding would fix the structural issues with the buildings, but is sure sounds like the problems run deeper then that.
The problem with razing and rebuilding high occupancy public housing is, where do the current residents go when they are displaced? If they don't have an alternative place to move to, they will end up on the streets for at least a couple of years, which is definitely not a good solution.:(

Miulang

[1stwahine]

Hopefully something can be done. It amazes me how MWH and Kukui Gardens are right next to each other but the level of problems between the two is so great. I grew up in Kukui Gardens and remember seeing the late night police responses to MWH.

Demolishing and rebuilding would fix the structural issues with the buildings, but is sure sounds like the problems run deeper then that.

That's why they need to Demolish MWH. Start fresh and plan how to manage a new community the right way. I would like to see a Resident Manager on the site who is available whom can see, hear what goes on. Put Residents as Team Players who are designated to keep their areas clean. Report anything that is not according to rules and regulations of our Housing Contract. It is a privilege to live in Housing in this day and age.

Yes, we have many problems here at MWH. Our Citizens Night Patrol is a laugh. "Only" when a Tenant Association Member is in the mood to walk will the residents walk. Most of the walkers are not volunteers. It is mandatory according to State Housing Rules and Regulations for anyone living in Public Housing who is 18 years and over to walk so many hours per month. Those exempted are the Elderly and Disabled.

The walkers themselves are mostly immigrants. They walk like a scared bunch. Who can blame them. At anytime...an incident can occur.:eek: So it's no big deal when they don't walk and still stand in line to get their papers signed for their hours performed (talking story).:rolleyes:

Security. They fired the old one due to many complaints from residents. The first day ~ I saw the same Security Guard in the new Uniform! Auwe!!! Wats up with dat?

I tired. I come back write moa laterz. Gotta keep this thread alive! Maybe somebody going read um.

Plezzzzzzzzzzz!:D

Auntie Lynn

[1stwahine]

The problem with razing and rebuilding high occupancy public housing is, where do the current residents go when they are displaced? If they don't have an alternative place to move to, they will end up on the streets for at least a couple of years, which is definitely not a good solution.:(

Miulang

Tita Miulang, Several years ago, Kam Homes was demolished and rebuilt. The residents were placed in vacant units around Oahu. The same would be done for MWH. The State can not throw us into the streets.

BTW: Kam Homes is major disaster. They've got ukapila problems themselves. Rats!:eek: They should have utilized that parcel of land better and built upwards instead of what they did. Using wood was a No! No!

For cosmetic features ~ it looks good. I wouldn't want to live there. Not from what I've heard from friends who reside there.

Lynn

P.S. Like I've said...I've raised my children here at MWH. It doesn't matter where one lives. It is how you raise and instill what you believe into your children. I keep my Hale clean. I am proud of where I live no matter the ugliness that surrounds it. I've survived and I shall remain until they tell me to leave or the day I die.

I invite anyone who wants to take a look at my Hale to see for themselves what is MWH. It's not all that bad. In fact, my Hale is betta den ones in Kahala! HAHAHAHAHA

[joshuatree]

Tita Miulang, Several years ago, Kam Homes was demolished and rebuilt. The residents were placed in vacant units around Oahu. The same would be done for MWH. The State can not throw us into the streets.

BTW: Kam Homes is major disaster. They've got ukapila problems themselves. Rats!:eek: They should have utilized that parcel of land better and built upwards instead of what they did. Using wood was a No! No!

For cosmetic features ~ it looks good. I wouldn't want to live there. Not from what I've heard from friends who reside there.

Lynn

You're right, the state has many vacant low income homes just sitting vacant due to red tape. If they remove the red tape, they can easily displace MWH residents to those vacancies and raze MWH. The fact that MWH will not be around and when you rebuild, you can incorporate new security features. No guarantees but it stands a good chance of eradicating the current problems. Also when you rebuild, you can add capacity.

[1stwahine]

You're right, the state has many vacant low income homes just sitting vacant due to red tape. If they remove the red tape, they can easily displace MWH residents to those vacancies and raze MWH. The fact that MWH will not be around and when you rebuild, you can incorporate new security features. No guarantees but it stands a good chance of eradicating the current problems. Also when you rebuild, you can add capacity.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

[Miulang]

But I thought one of the main reasons why many of those vacant subsidized housing units were vacant was because they were uninhabitable (i.e., worse than places like MWH)?

Miulang

[joshuatree]

But I thought one of the main reasons why many of those vacant subsidized housing units were vacant was because they were uninhabitable (i.e., worse than places like MWH)?

Miulang

Some of them are but quite a few are just in red tape limbo land.

[1stwahine]

I was trying to get a bit of history on MWH but I got a headache.:o Anyways, MAMA remembers it being Part Swamp and Part Taro Patch. Das why the buildings are sinking.:eek: My own unit has cracks in the walls and floors.

K-den. According to:
All about Hawaii: The Recognized Book of Authentic Information on Hawaii, Combined with Thrum's... - Page 124
1958
This project was designated as "Project TH-1-3" and has been offi-cially named
by the Commission : "Mayor Wright Homes," in honor of the late Mayor George Wright."

There was a "Celebration" which the MWH Tenant Association gave. No one representing the State or Management came. No media. In fact...hardly any resident attended due to poor planning. We were celebrating a historical event...the building of Mayor Wright Housing! :rolleyes:

Auntie Lynn

[Miulang]

This past summer, a Punahou student by the name of Krysti Sukita (http://iws.punahou.edu/user/JStevens/project/public_housing/)and some of her classmates put together a very interesting summer project related to the public housing situation in Honolulu. It's a very interesting read because it traces the history of the public housing movement in the US and internationally and then proceeds to discuss some of the issues that Auntie Lynn continues to write about relating to the living conditions at Mayor Wright and other publicly subsidized units in Hawai'i. (NOTE: The part relating to the state of Hawai'i public housing is toward the end of this report)

The state government is not up-keeping the many state-wide public housing residents. They also aren’t building new housing developments to help meet the increasing demand of public housing. The answer to the reason why all of these problems aren’t being solved is simple: the state of Hawaii lacks the funds to take care of the many different problems that plague public housing. The state receives funding from the federal government each year that averages between $24 and $25 million dollars. Housing and Community Development Corporation of Hawaii (HCDCH) was designated in 2004 by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to be in the “troubled” category. The federal government assesses public housing agencies nationwide and rates them in four areas: management operations, financial condition, property condition, and resident satisfaction. HCDCH fell into the “troubled” category due to its failure in the financial condition and management categories. ³This means that the state lost out on several million dollars in federal funding.

Realistically, the state can only do so little to help the public housing problem in the short term. Much needed funding could be taken from the $574 million surplus that the state has. One of the problems that affect how fast new public housing facilities can be build is the fact that it is hard for the state to develop affordable housing. The state has long term plans to build more public housing apartments after the passing of several bills by the legislature. The state’s Rental Housing Trust Fund sets conveyance tax money aside from estate transactions. This money is used to build rental housing and is the main source for the inventory of affordable rentals. One of the bills passed by legislature is called the Omnibus Affordable Housing Bill. This bill increased the amount of money that would go into the rental trust fund. It also provided $4.3 million for repair and renovation of public housing projects.

One way that people can help better public housing is to just become aware of the situation. Public housing is one of the big problems that Hawaii faces. I think a way that people can impact the public housing situation is to petition the state government to either provide more funding or shift some funds from other areas to help public housing. Another way that people could help the situation would be to volunteer their own skills and help repair the damages in the public housing residents. &sup4The state can help public housings is by transfering ownership to private groups that will be able to repair the damages, such as the state did with the Palolo Housings in 2002.
...

If the current situation is allowed to continue on the same path, the state could lose much needed funds from the federal government. As the state and HCDCH fail to meet and comply with the federal government’s standards of public housing, the federal government will pull funds from the state. Also, with the rising cost of living and rising prices in the housing market in Hawaii, more families will be forced to look for cheaper housing options. This means that more and more families will be relying on public housing. I think that if the state doesn’t start to fix up and build new public housing facilities, we will soon see a greater number of homeless people and families in Hawaii.





Miulang

[GeckoGeek]

Using wood was a No! No!

I don't follow. Are the rats big enough to eat holes in the walls? I've lived in a wood house most of my life, the problem with rats were finding existing holes.

[GeckoGeek]

This past summer, a Punahou student by the name of Krysti Sukita (http://iws.punahou.edu/user/JStevens/project/public_housing/)and some of her classmates put together a very interesting summer project related to the public housing situation in Honolulu.

I see a promising political carrear. Classic "we have a problem" and "the government needs to fix it" along with eying the state over-taxation.

I donno. That report just irks me at some level, but not for the reasons the authors intended. What we really need is some effective programs to help those who can get out to get out and not just create something so they don't camp on the beaches.

[Miulang]

I see a promising political carrear. Classic "we have a problem" and "the government needs to fix it" along with eying the state over-taxation.

I donno. That report just irks me at some level, but not for the reasons the authors intended. What we really need is some effective programs to help those who can get out to get out and not just create something so they don't camp on the beaches.
Considering the fact that this report was done by a bunch of high school kids, I think it's well researched. Their main point, I think, is that the State, by not having a comprehensive plan to upgrade and fix existing housing units so that they can meet minimum federal requirements for Hope VI funding, is actually costing you, the taxpayers, a whole bunch of money (worth millions) every year. The State currently gets $24-25 million annually from HUD. It would be interesting to see an audit of how those funds are currently being spent: How much is going to the division responsible for upkeep of public housing units v. how much is going to pay rental subsidies for those who aren't in public housing?

More visible on-premise management of those properties is another of their recommendations, and one which Tita also mentions is a chronic problem at MWH. So my guess is that the kids (akamai, dem guys!) are right on target.

Miulang

[GeckoGeek]

I think what irked me most of all about the report was the reminder that this isn't just a transitional solution, but public housing will be a permanent and expanding part of the landscape.

Mel has expressed problems with being taxed to pay for a rail line he'll never use. I have issues being taxed to pay for someone else's housing unless they are disabled or they are transitioning to better things. However I fear this is just one part of a slide into full-scale socialism.

[Miulang]

I think what irked me most of all about the report was the reminder that this isn't just a transitional solution, but public housing will be a permanent and expanding part of the landscape.

Mel has expressed problems with being taxed to pay for a rail line he'll never use. I have issues being taxed to pay for someone else's housing unless they are disabled or they are transitioning to better things. However I fear this is just one part of a slide into full-scale socialism.
I'm helping to pay for your homeless people, too, through my Fed. taxes. And it's like with Social Security: I'm helping to subsidize my parents' retirement as well as a whole lot of other peoples' retirement, even though I can't count on being able to take advantage of that when I retire. Sometimes you just have to do things because it's the right thing to do, and not because you yourself are going to get anything out of it directly. All I can do is try to remain vigilant to make sure my "investment" is being used wisely.

Miulang

[WindwardOahuRN]

I think what irked me most of all about the report was the reminder that this isn't just a transitional solution, but public housing will be a permanent and expanding part of the landscape.

Mel has expressed problems with being taxed to pay for a rail line he'll never use. I have issues being taxed to pay for someone else's housing unless they are disabled or they are transitioning to better things. However I fear this is just one part of a slide into full-scale socialism.


We all get taxed for things that we'll never use. Childless people get taxed for schools. People who won't live past the age of thirty pay into Social Security and Medicare. It is part of being a member of society. You take care of those in need.

Housing for the poor, the disabled, the elderly?

Bring it on. I'd much rather see my taxes go towards public housing than Van Cams, "Welcome to Nuuanu" signs, and other such frippery.

As Auntie Lynn personifies, not all those who live in public housing are waste products. Auntie Lynn has obviously produced fantastic children, raised in public housing.

One wonders what may have happened if she was forced to live life on the streets with those kids.

I apologize, Auntie, if I used the example of you and your kids inappropriately. But attitudes like this just piss me off. :mad:

[GeckoGeek]

Sometimes you just have to do things because it's the right thing to do, and not because you yourself are going to get anything out of it directly.

I'm willing to help people out, I just don't want it to turn into a dole and in turn create people dependent on it which in turn leads to a lifestyle for a new generation.

[WindwardOahuRN]

I'm willing to help people out, I just don't want it to turn into a dole and in turn create people dependent on it which in turn leads to a lifestyle for a new generation.

You will always have those.

You just can't fall into the trap of throwing the baby away with the bath water.

[Miulang]

The Pakolea Program for Palama Settlement (and Mayor Wright and Kaahumanu Homes) is set up to do just that; however, I'm sure they are underfunded and overworked.

Pakolea Program ,
Palama Settlement.
Contact Information:
Larry Sweets, Program Manager
Phone: (808) 845-3945 , Fax: (808) 847-2873

Description of Services:


The Pakolea Program at Palama Settlement provides at-risk youth living in the Palama-Kalihi-Liliha community with educational, cultural, social, and recreational programs and activities designed to promote and enhance the youth’s development into positive and contributing members of society. It is a highly structured behavioral management program based on a system of earned points, recognition, and rewards and is a positive alternative to juvenile and drug-related activities. Incentives to young people include educational scholarships to deserving youngsters.

Other programs offered at Palama Settlement are: social/recreational/physical activities; a nutrition program for seniors; an after school program for children, performing arts; sports/educational programs; adult education; specialized day residential treatment services for adolescents; drug/outreach services; and family preservation services for Mayor Wright and Kaahumanu Homes



Miulang

P.S. WORN: GMTA!:D

[WindwardOahuRN]

The Pakolea Program for Palama Settlement (and Mayor Wright and Kaahumanu Homes) is set up to do just that; however, I'm sure they are underfunded and overworked.



Miulang

P.S. WORN: GMTA!:D

Ai mi Dios. No comprendo. :confused:

[Miulang]

Ai mi Dios. No comprendo. :confused:
<Pssst...WORN: GMTA=great minds think alike!>:D

Miulang

[joshuatree]

I'm helping to pay for your homeless people, too, through my Fed. taxes. And it's like with Social Security: I'm helping to subsidize my parents' retirement as well as a whole lot of other peoples' retirement, even though I can't count on being able to take advantage of that when I retire. Sometimes you just have to do things because it's the right thing to do, and not because you yourself are going to get anything out of it directly. All I can do is try to remain vigilant to make sure my "investment" is being used wisely.

Miulang

Low income housing is a double edge sword. On one hand, you help provide a roof over those in need or are temporary caught in a bad situation. But then on the hand, you got those who take advantage of this and will only work minimal to always stay in low income housing. Those who really want to help themselves usually stay in low income only as long as they need. One reason why I believe when a low income housing complex is built, you should not design it with all the amenities, gotta leave a little something to be desired to motivate people to only use them as long as needed.

SS, conceptually very good. Execution-wise, very poor. Whenever you have a larger portion of your pop aging vs working age, those working are gonna shoulder a heavy burden, maybe to the point that's unsustainable. I rather see it privatized. And for those who don't think that will work, Australia's SuperAnnulation, their SS equivalent, was privatized in 1992. Just read an article couple days ago where the total amount they now have in the fund is over $1 trillion dollars. For a pop of only 20 million, not bad at all.

[Miulang]

HUD has a Hawai'i-specific website (http://www.hud.gov/local/hi/working/nlwin2006.cfm)where you can keep up to date on what the Feds are doing to help with the public housing situation.

Miulang

[WindwardOahuRN]

<Pssst...WORN: GMTA=great minds think alike!>:D

Miulang

Gotcha babe.

Happy New Year! :D

[1stwahine]

Ok.....I'm out celebrating the New Year at MWH. I'll come back when I'm properly SOBER to comment on RN's and Tita Miulang's Posts.:p

Everybody else ...carry on.

Happy New Year 2007!

Btw: Special Happy New Year and hugs to Palolo Joe!:D

You are ALL a big a reason wat kept ME alive and fired up in 2006!

I love you ALL so very very much!

Can you tell I'm intoxicated? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

aUNTIE Lynn aka Auntie pupUle.com:p

[WindwardOahuRN]

Ok.....I'm out celebrating the New Year at MWH. I'll come back when I'm properly SOBER to comment on RN's and Tita Miulang's Posts.



OH NO....

:::::HIDING FROM AUNTIE'S WHACK WHACKS:::::eek:

[GeckoGeek]

You just can't fall into the trap of throwing the baby away with the bath water.

There are ways of separating them or at least minimizing the amount of bath water left.

[WindwardOahuRN]

There are ways of separating them or at least minimizing the amount of bath water left.

Just how much experience do you have with babies and bathwater?

[GeckoGeek]

Just how much experience do you have with babies and bathwater?

What's that got to do with anything? Babies are physically much larger then water. It's just an engineering matter to separate them.

As for the task that the analogy was applied to, that's much harder. Bureaucracy demands standards, but having standards means someone will use them to their own ends. But I still think there's ways of doing it. At least doing better then we have been.

[Miulang]

If you're really interested in knowing what the State is doing about increasing public housing assistance, go to the HPHA (Hawaii Public Housing Authority (http://www.hcdch.state.hi.us/housingplans/index.htm)) website. On it are the strategic plans for the Division through 2010 (includes both Fed and State plans).

Miulang

[shaveice]

channel 2 aired another story on mwh on their 10 o'clock news (think it was two nights ago); a follow up story. i'm glad they're continuing to keep the story in the minds of the people. perhaps the state will be embarrassed enuf to do something...

[1stwahine]

I don't follow. Are the rats big enough to eat holes in the walls? I've lived in a wood house most of my life, the problem with rats were finding existing holes.

When they built the New Project the land was infested with rodents already. They did a bum job in eliminating them. Wood will not last long as Concrete. Termites. One can past Kam Homes and see the decay happening.

Housing for the poor, the disabled, the elderly?

Bring it on. I'd much rather see my taxes go towards public housing than Van Cams, "Welcome to Nuuanu" signs, and other such frippery.

As Auntie Lynn personifies, not all those who live in public housing are waste products. Auntie Lynn has obviously produced fantastic children, raised in public housing.

One wonders what may have happened if she was forced to live life on the streets with those kids.

I apologize, Auntie, if I used the example of you and your kids inappropriately. But attitudes like this just piss me off.

No need to apologize RN!;) I would have never lived on the streets. We became Homeless by choice prior to living at MWH. My husband had passed on. I have a Big Ohana who all own homes and apartments. I chose not to bother anyone. We lived in a Homeless Shelter for Women and Children. A complex just like any other apartment dwelling. We had our Privacy to mourn and each other.

Low income housing is a double edge sword. On one hand, you help provide a roof over those in need or are temporary caught in a bad situation. But then on the hand, you got those who take advantage of this and will only work minimal to always stay in low income housing. Those who really want to help themselves usually stay in low income only as long as they need. One reason why I believe when a low income housing complex is built, you should not design it with all the amenities, gotta leave a little something to be desired to motivate people to only use them as long as needed.

Yes, it is a double edge sword. The article which Krysti Sukita and the students of Punahou wrote was right on the money. I know of many families who are generations of the Public Housing System. It's sad to see the continuing drama. Children born of children. Lack of education only makes them a target to become drug dealers, addicts, what not's of society. It is a fact.

They know the system so well and can survive on Government Subsidies. Didn't you know ~ it's better to be POOR? The TRUTH. Rent is cheap. Medical Coverage is either FREE or minimal. Food Stamps and Food Surplus is always available. Electrical bills is paid once a year if you qualify. Most do. dang! I always forget to submit an application. Plus, the generous gifts from the kindhearted. Etc. Etc.

If you're really interested in knowing what the State is doing about increasing public housing assistance, go to the HPHA (Hawaii Public Housing Authority (http://www.hcdch.state.hi.us/housingplans/index.htm)) website. On it are the strategic plans for the Division through 2010 (includes both Fed and State plans).

Miulang

I can't seem to load it on my computer. I'll try later. However, in closing...I want to mention some other things about MWH.

We don't have a Playground for the children. Their playground is the parking lots and vacant units. :(

Last night, once again MWH was in major crisis. Helicopter flew over shining it's light down upon us. HPD if full force came storming in. You would think it was World War III. It wasn't. Was just a man who had too much to drink and acted stupid. He got arrested...while everyone from afar shook their heads and said "It's MWH again!":eek:

Auntie Lynn

[1stwahine]

Good morning everyone.

This morning I opened my front door. Once again, I see the two Huge Dogs that belongs to one of the members of the Tenant Association Board in my yard. :mad: Making Kaka and then roaming MWH. I have to clean their mess each time.

We have a Rule and Regulation which allows Pets. However, no Dogs over 20 lbs !!! We had a Pet Committee who tried to enforce the rules and regulations. But they all quit when it was found useless...especially, when the very one who was breaking it is a member of the Tenant Association.:rolleyes:

I've sent emails and talked to Management about the Dogs in my yard. I was told something was going to be done. That was before the Election!

I have nothing against owning pets. Follow the rules and regulations. One of them is to have them on leash on your property. Why don't I ask for the owner to clean up her Dog's Mess? Bumby, I shove her face in it!:p j/k HAHAHAHAHAHA Nah, no sense complain to her directly. I'll do my fighting the civil way.

I have nothing to hide. My door is always wide open. I follow the rules and regulations to a T.

K-den. Das all foa now. Gotta keep dis thread alive.

Auntie Lynn

[timkona]

You ever see Me, Myself, & Irene. Just drop a load on the neighbors yard to make your point.

The reason why you can't enforce the rules is because of the way that the idea of lawlessness is taking over in America. It pervades society from the large scale issue of the Iraq War right down to the manini issues like the dogs at MWH.

[1stwahine]

You ever see Me, Myself, & Irene. Just drop a load on the neighbors yard to make your point.

The reason why you can't enforce the rules is because of the way that the idea of lawlessness is taking over in America. It pervades society from the large scale issue of the Iraq War right down to the manini issues like the dogs at MWH.

Unlike you timkona, I believe in America and our system. Yeah, we got a lot of things wrong but once again...I would never want to be anyplace else. When I wake-up each morning, I thank the God I believe in for having me born to parents who instilled Morals and Values in me. I thank him for letting me be born in AMERICA where Freedom is. I also thank him for everything else in my life...having great children, beautiful grandchildren, a loving Ohana, and friends galore. But most especially, for giving me the opportunity to make a difference in my community and wherever I go.

Manini issues as the Dogs and odda stuff I complain about can be solved and will be solved. I believe. When we as individuals give up on our system than we LOSE. We must do our part to make it work. I'm not a Politician nor someone who is well known. However, each and everyday I tell myself what can I do to make my community and those I care about live a little better? It takes heart, spiritual belief and a whole lot of guts to do what I do. I'm not afraid to go up against those who don't abide by the Rules and Regulations.

Law? I'm no expert and I'm not about to debate something I don't comprehend. All I know is this is America and I believe in her!

Da hell with Dogs!!!! I got my Cyber Bazooka ready!:p

Auntie Lynn

[joshuatree]

You should just document it on a camcorder, especially catching the dog in the act. Then slap on a lawsuit, that's the American way. :D

[1stwahine]

You should just document it on a camcorder, especially catching the dog in the act. Then slap on a lawsuit, that's the American way. :D

heheheh

I'm saving for a Video Camera.;) As foa a lawsuit. Nah, Too manini.:p

Here's something from the past I wrote on Lynn's Lair I.
Reality Cartoon At MWH!
http://www.hawaiistories.com/lynn/2005/03/18/244/

Auntie Lynn

[joshuatree]

heheheh

I'm saving for a Video Camera.;) As foa a lawsuit. Nah, Too manini.:p

Here's something from the past I wrote on Lynn's Lair I.
Reality Cartoon At MWH!
http://www.hawaiistories.com/lynn/2005/03/18/244/

Auntie Lynn

But a lawsuit gets the job done, go to People's Court, then we can see you in the intro with the theme song. :D

[1stwahine]

But a lawsuit gets the job done, go to People's Court, then we can see you in the intro with the theme song. :D

Eh! No one has been to People's Court from Hawai'i. I don't WANT to be the FIRST!:eek:

Auntie Lynn

[shaveice]

cool. a third report on the situation on the news at 10 (channel 2)...

[GeckoGeek]

Way back when we used to pop stray dogs that came into our yard with a pellet gun. It would sting like heck but wouldn't injure them. Nowadays it would probably get you in big trouble.

As for the camera, most digital cameras have a movie mode. And there some cheap digital movie cameras without the tape that runs about $100. Depends on what you need.

[1stwahine]

cool. a third report on the situation on the news at 10 (channel 2)...

That's great to hear. Did they mention anything about the CHOKE COPS and Ambulance dat was here tonight?:eek: Yep! Once again MWH had ACTION. Micronesians against LOCALS! I heard screaming and sirens. Blue and whites plus personal SUV'S blocking the entrance. It's quiet now.

Way back when we used to pop stray dogs that came into our yard with a pellet gun. It would sting like heck but wouldn't injure them. Nowadays it would probably get you in big trouble.

As for the camera, most digital cameras have a movie mode. And there some cheap digital movie cameras without the tape that runs about $100. Depends on what you need.

I don't want to hurt the Dogs. It's NOT their fault. I love animals. I'll deal with the situation the right way.;)

Several months ago I asked help in choosing a Digital Camera on HT. I've been saving and know what kind I want. Almost.:D

Mahalo

Auntie Lynn

[GeckoGeek]

I don't want to hurt the Dogs. It's NOT their fault.

The way we looked at it at the time was it was easier to train the dogs then the owners. I don't think we ever had to "train" the same dog twice.

That said, you might consider some less violent training aids of your own.

[1stwahine]

The way we looked at it at the time was it was easier to train the dogs then the owners. I don't think we ever had to "train" the same dog twice.

That said, you might consider some less violent training aids of your own.

When I said "the right way," I didn't mean VIOLENCE. I've had my plants destroyed, poison poured on my front lawn, hedges cut to nuttin...but I've never did do any vicious attacks back on nobody. Why? Because we have Laws and I abide by them. However, if anyone should harm me physically ~ you can bet I would use ALL THE VIOLENT training I have learned in my 51 years on Earth. :rolleyes:

Da nerve!

Lynn Vasquez

With that said...I also had a member of the Tenant Association tell me "You should have died!" Too bad cause I still living to fight corruption and intimidation for my fellow residents at MWH.

[GeckoGeek]

When I said "the right way," I didn't mean VIOLENCE.

I was thinking more along the lines of whatever they sell in the stores for training pets. Sprays or sounds or something. I still think there's something to trying to train the pet rather then the owner.

[1stwahine]

I was thinking more along the lines of whatever they sell in the stores for training pets. Sprays or sounds or something. I still think there's something to trying to train the pet rather then the owner.

heheheh

I bought a water pistol. It works...I shot three squirts yesterday morning and the doggies wen run!:p Dey neva come back. I'm going make my coffee and sit outside and wait again.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Non-Violence always work.

Mahalo foa your suggestion.;)

Auntie Lynn:D

[timkona]

I saw interviews of residents of MWH last night on the news. But where was the most important resident of MWH - Auntie Lynn.

[1stwahine]

I saw interviews of residents of MWH last night on the news. But where was the most important resident of MWH - Auntie Lynn.

I was ....http://www.auntiepupule.com/blog/index.php?id=917

In other News at MWH.

Remember da odda night at MWH?

Well, a "Local guy got STABBED!" He survived. Last night on Pua Lane a bunch of Micronesians trashed a car. HPD blocked the whole street at 12:30 a.m. The situation is escalating worse than before. I warned dem...dey neva like listen. :mad:

When will they ever learn! :rolleyes:

Auntie Lynn :p

[1stwahine]

I'm not gonna waste this post.heheheh

Da Dogs neva come this morning.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

btw: I'm not the most "Important" ~ The CHILDREN are!!!!

Auntie Lynn

[1stwahine]

K-den.

Ricarte was told not to touch the clean out. She did. The cover wen in.:eek: Das wen the problem started.:rolleyes:

Maintenance have been working day and night on the problem since the Holidays trying to fix the problem. C&C Bosses and State Bosses viewed the video Rooter Rooter took. They found the problem. It is a C&C one.

Work will be done on the Liliha road side probably at night due to traffic.

Ricarte is not a resident. She is a caretaker. She must remember, she is a guest of the tenants and of MWH.

Auntie Lynn

[1stwahine]

A Flyer has been passed out to ALL RESIDENTS OF Mayor Wright Homes/Kamehameha Homes....

It's all in CAPS!:eek:

The ending part: IF MANAGEMENT AND/OR STAFF ARE MADE AWARE OF A PET IN YOUR UNIT AND YOU HAVE NOT REPORTED OR COMPLETED THE PET POLICY, CORRECTIVE AND/OR EVICTION ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.

Auntie Lynn:D

Thank you HT! Somebody is READING! heheheh

[1stwahine]

Work has started on the Sewer Problem at MWH by C&C Work Crew!

Yipppppeeeeee!:D

Motorists, please keep away from Liliha Street.:eek:

Duration: I dunno how loooong.:p

Auntie Lynn

[shaveice]

i hope they'll come up with a solution that doesn't just last till the cameras go away! :)

[1stwahine]

i hope they'll come up with a solution that doesn't just last till the cameras go away! :)

According to my source (heheheh) when they (The bosses of The State and City) viewed the tape...the damage was the City's. The Sewer Pipes was too OLD! They are being replaced. It was way past MWH property. Makes you wonder how long the other pipes going give way. Like a Domino effect.:eek:

Next.

Hope not...but it will.

Eventually.

Mahalo for starting this thread Shaveice!;)

Auntie Lynn

btw: I gave the baby clothes you donated to a homeless family in Ewa Beach. They said thank you very much!