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GnosticWarrior
March 23rd, 2007, 01:07 AM
I was just curious to know who many people out there know what the rule of 72 is? After observing people's money allocation decisions, I wondered if those people understood this rule. I feel that its the most important rule in finance. This rule can be very useful in most of your financial decisions.

The rule of 72 is a simple formula that is used to determine how many years, at what interest rate, does my money need to compound in order to double. It's not accurate to the penny, the dollar, or even more, but its a good, quick ball park calculation.

Now most might have used this to calculate how long it would take their money to double in a savings account, CD, or bond earning a particular interest rate. But how many have used this rule when deciding to make a loan? If you make a loan, the rule of 72 is still at work. A loan of $100 at 6% interest will double to $200 in 12 years if no payments were made. You can see its power better in a mortgage. With a big principal upfront, most of your monthly payments are going toward the interest and very little is actually paying down the principal which is generating future interest.

That's why for most people, making extra payments to pay down your principal on a mortgage is one of the best financial decisions one can make. Actually, even better than putting that money in your savings unless you know you need it. Not paying off your credit card and keeping a balance is financial suicide.

I was going to save it for another thread but, its also important to consider the after tax consequences of investing or borrowing money. Assuming an overall tax rate of state and fed combined of 30%, if I was looking to invest in a CD or paying down my mortgage, the CD would have to yield approx. 8.6% on a pre-tax basis to be equivalent to they money I would save by paying down my mortgage at 6%. You can also look at it another way, if I decide to make a loan at 6%, It is actually costing me 8.6% to be able to pay it back.

So the next time you decide to spend, save, or borrow, remember the rule of 72 and how this transaction will affect your overall finances.

cynsaligia
March 23rd, 2007, 02:04 AM
I was just curious to know who many people out there know what the rule of 72 is? After observing people's money allocation decisions, I wondered if those people understood this rule. I feel that its the most important rule in finance. This rule can be very useful in most of your financial decisions.

learned it in my intro to management class bcs my professor's real job is working for the Principal.

craigwatanabe
March 27th, 2007, 12:28 AM
Learned that in my business math class during my senior year at Kalani High School with Ms. Trabbie back in ohhh...1978

oceanpacific
March 27th, 2007, 09:35 AM
learned it in my intro to management class bcs my professor's real job is working for the Principal.


Another rule to remember is the Rule of 78.

Many people who borrow from finance companies (industrial loan companies) will probably miss this provision which is generally buried in the fine print. This is basically a method of calculating how interest on a loan is apportioned over the term of the loan. It allows the lender to legally collect more of the interest in the early part of the loan term.

For short terms and lower loan amounts, the difference is negligible, but as the loan term lengthens and interest rates rise, the interest apportioned to the first month can be 80% higher than under SIMPLE INTEREST, which is charged on the declining principal balance.

The Rule of 78 is so-named because the number of months in the loan term is added up as the denominator, while the numerator is the number of months remaining in the loan. For a 12 month loan, it's 1 + 2 + 3 ...... 12 = 78 for the denominator. For the first month, the numerator is 12. So, 12/78 of the total interest is apportioned, followed by 11/78, 10/78, and down to 1/78 for the final payment. The effect of this is a higher principal balance on the loan throughout the term of the loan except the initial balance and the final balance ($0.00).

If I have confused anyone, I apologize in advance.

GnosticWarrior
March 28th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Another rule to remember is the Rule of 78.



Thanks, I heard of this before but I never had it explained. I guess the lender guaranteed a fixed interest rate for a set time and also expects to get the total interest that would have been earned under that agreement.


I remember learning the Rule of 72 in a business class in H.S., It was an elective. Currently, I don't know what the standard financial curriculum for the DOE is, but I hope it ranges from savings accounts to retirement accounts, and how they work.

808shooter
March 28th, 2007, 09:08 PM
The Rule of 78 is so-named because the number of months in the loan term is added up as the denominator, while the numerator is the number of months remaining in the loan. For a 12 month loan, it's 1 + 2 + 3 ...... 12 = 78 for the denominator. For the first month, the numerator is 12. So, 12/78 of the total interest is apportioned, followed by 11/78, 10/78, and down to 1/78 for the final payment. The effect of this is a higher principal balance on the loan throughout the term of the loan except the initial balance and the final balance ($0.00).

If I have confused anyone, I apologize in advance.
wow. that is awsome. I understand the concept and understand how it makes fixed mortgages so profitable for finance organizations - but have never understood what the formula used in calculating the front loaded interest was.

Amazing. Great post/contribution.

I was actually toying with the idea of replacing my fixed 20 year loan with a Heloc so I could pay off the balance faster but since my loan is now a 17 year fixed @ 4.75%, the interest rate risk was not worth the few years benefit I'd realize.

So for a 30 year fixed you'd have in month number one:

360/64,980

or 0.0055

or 0.55% principle paid off and 99.45% interest

on a $2000 loan payment that's $1,989 interest and $11 principle :eek:

amazing. great that I can do that calc without an amortization table now. thanks!

edit: hmmm checked my math on an online amortization calculator and it doesn't quite work out. ah well, I'm curious now.