Rachael Ray butchers the Hawaiian language!

[LocalMotion]

Rachael Ray's "$40 a Day" show tonight on Food Network was done on Oahu.. boy did she really butcher the hawaiian language! i don't think i heard her same one hawaiian word even closely right. you would think that someone would correct her for the narration.. guess not

[Keanu]

Rachael Ray's "$40 a Day" show tonight on Food Network was done on Oahu.. boy did she really butcher the hawaiian language! i don't think i heard her same one hawaiian word even closely right. you would think that someone would correct her for the narration.. guess not

She's annoying. If it wasn't for that big ass of hers, I wouldn't waste my time watching her shows. The mute button comes in quite handy when her mouth is moving.

[LocalMotion]

She's annoying. If it wasn't for that big ass of hers, I wouldn't waste my time watching her shows. The mute button comes in quite handy when her mouth is moving.


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[pzarquon]

Speaking of annoying...

Anyway. This episode of "$40 a Day" is infamous in my social circle. I'm confident it's been lambasted here at HT before. Or it may have been her "luau" episode. It was the tipping point for my wife (http://www.ozawa.org/jen/reviews/archives/004559.html), who previously was dismayed by all the relentless hate out there for Rachel.

Suffice it to say, whether visiting Hawaii or trying to recreate some sad pantomime of the most uniformed boob's impression of Hawaiian food, she's annoyed islanders for a long time.

I miss eating Ritz crackers, but won't buy 'em as long as her face is on the box!

[scrivener]

i don't think i heard her same one hawaiian word even closely right. you would think that someone would correct her for the narration.. guess not
If you're going to attack someone for butchering the Hawaiian language, you should probably try to avoid butchering the ENGLISH language in the process! :) I'm just playing.

I love Rachael Ray, but she is majorly overexposed right now, so I have been avoiding her. I can't fault her for messing up the language -- almost everyone does, including some of our most popular local on-air personalities (and again, even from them it's not as annoying as what they do to the ENGLISH language).

I just can't watch that talk-show of hers, and I really wanted it to succeed. But yeah. I do love me some Rachael.

[Random]

Overexposed? Angelina Jolie is overexposed. She's taking the title of "Cat Lady" to a whole 'nother level (her "cats" being adopted third-world children).

At least I can follow Ms. Ray's cooking. Martha's too snooty for me.

[DannyWilliams]

Rachel butchering the Hawaiian Language?
I have not seen the episode in question but I do get annoyed when I hear HONOLULU pronounced as Hana-Lu-Lu:confused:


uhhhhhhhh there is Nooooooooo "A" in Honolulu :mad:

[tikiyaki]

She's annoying. If it wasn't for that big ass of hers, I wouldn't waste my time watching her shows. The mute button comes in quite handy when her mouth is moving.



Oh Sh*t, I just fell off my chair from laughing so hard. Keanu, thanx for starting my day off with that. Genius! :D

[sinjin]

Overexposed? Angelina Jolie is overexposed. She's taking the title of "Cat Lady" to a whole 'nother level (her "cats" being adopted third-world children).Damn her big heart. What the hell does she think she's doing?

[Da Rolling Eye]

She's annoying. If it wasn't for that big ass of hers, I wouldn't waste my time watching her shows. The mute button comes in quite handy when her mouth is moving.
:D :D

I thought she was doing great till someone told her to start waving her arms around a lot more. I remember it looking odd because the difference was from one show to the next.

As for "butchering" Hawaiian words, I hear more "locals" doing it themselves, especially "Hanalulu". I sure as heck don't expect someone from the mainland to fare any better. I blame her show's staff for not doing the research, if it comes down to that. That's what they're there for. ;)

[Lei K]

Oh man I missed the episode in Maui (I can only imagine) but the episode in O'ahu made me cringe. The way she pronounced Haleiwa. *shudders*

She seems nice enough though. I would think that in a place with difficult to pronounce names she'd make sure she got it right. :confused:

Anyone ever watch Samantha Brown's travel shows? I like her. She tries to make sure she gets things right, at least it looks as if she does. I especially like her Passport to Europe shows.

Sinjin, I'm with ya on Angelina. I think the media makes her overexposed, not Angelina herself. There has to be an interest in her or else the stalkerazzi wouldn't hound her the way they do and magazines wouldn't obsess about her life in every issue. If I had her money I would love to adopt, it's a beautiful thing, as is a large family.

[Keanu]

Anyone ever watch Samantha Brown's travel shows? I like her. She tries to make sure she gets things right, at least it looks as if she does. I especially like her Passport to Europe shows.



I like Samantha Brown's travel shows. "Girl Meets Hawaii" might have been the exception. At least you can leave the volume on when Sam is speaking, even though she doesn't look nearly as good in jeans as Ray. :D

[Lei K]

I like Samantha Brown's travel shows. "Girl Meets Hawaii" might have been the exception. At least you can leave the volume on when Sam is speaking, even though she doesn't look nearly as good in jeans as Ray. :D


Yeah, no extra round Italian booty going on for Sam I'm afraid. :D

[Hellbent]

My wife was glued to that show last night. I cringed. Holly Eh Wa?
I think I have only been to Dukes, havent been to Shorebird yet.

I think the barefoot contessa is the hottest one.

[Lei K]

My wife was glued to that show last night. I cringed. Holly Eh Wa?
I think I have only been to Dukes, havent been to Shorebird yet.

I think the barefoot contessa is the hottest one.

Nigella Lawson has my vote for sexiest Food Network woman. She is so sensual, amazing. She captures me everytime she's on.

Of course, it goes without saying that Tyler Florence is the sexiest person on the Food Network, period. *daydreamy eyes* :D Is Food 911 still on? I haven't seen it for a while. I NEEEEEED to have a food emergency. *waggles eyebrows*

Ask my mother and she will say the sexiest is Emeril. :eek: She can't stay away from those Portuguese men.

Off topic a tad but anyone else miss Doorknock Dinners? That show was funny and introduced me to a certain woman named Paula Dean.

[Hellbent]

Im so tired of Emeril BAM Lagasse. He needs to take a break and come up with some new catch phrases. I liked surreal chef, its on at some weird time now I think.

[Lei Liko]

Was this the one where she went to Duke's and the Shorebird?

I haven't seen it, but when I heard she had a drink at Duke's, I immediately called BS on $40 a day because we all know drinks at Duke's cost an arm and a leg.

I absolutely cannot stand Rachael Ray. Everytime I see her I just want to shake her.

[Pomai]

In one episode, she mispronounced the Hawaiian word at first, then in the next segment pronounced it correctly.

Yeah, she's way overplayed on TFN, just like Emeril and Bobby Flay. Still, out of those three, I'd rather overdose on "Ray-Ray" than Emeril. When Bobby's on, I tend to flip the channel.

And you can't mistake the fact that she's making BANK, now that she's got a primetime talk show, best selling cookbooks, her own cookware line, plus her salary with TFN. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Good Eats with Alton Brown is still my favorite program on TFN.

[joshuatree]

Was this the one where she went to Duke's and the Shorebird?

I haven't seen it, but when I heard she had a drink at Duke's, I immediately called BS on $40 a day because we all know drinks at Duke's cost an arm and a leg.

I absolutely cannot stand Rachael Ray. Everytime I see her I just want to shake her.

Anyone watch MadTV? There was one skit that made fun of RR. The comedian playing RR would go to fancy restaurants and supposedly order food for $40 or less and then a behind the scenes camera shows her begging and whining till the waiter gives enough discount so the tab is under $40. :D

[oceanpacific]

Give RR a break, folks, and just change the channel.

She's "perky," though. :D

[blueyecicle]

Nigella Lawson has my vote for sexiest Food Network woman. She is so sensual, amazing. She captures me everytime she's on.

Of course, it goes without saying that Tyler Florence is the sexiest person on the Food Network, period. *daydreamy eyes* :D Is Food 911 still on? I haven't seen it for a while. I NEEEEEED to have a food emergency. *waggles eyebrows*

Ask my mother and she will say the sexiest is Emeril. :eek: She can't stay away from those Portuguese men.

Off topic a tad but anyone else miss Doorknock Dinners? That show was funny and introduced me to a certain woman named Paula Dean.

No no...sexiest Food Network star??
Paula Deen! I hope I look that good at 109!

[Kaukura]

I'd like to see some of those complaining go to France, or Italy or even England and try to pronounce some of their words.

I dont understand the animosity towards her and "trying to pronounce" Hawaiian words. I still sometimes say "Yoowa Beach" instead of "Ehva", and people laugh with me and not at me thankfully. lol

Even though I speak English, French and German, I still understand the challenges of pronunciations and try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

[Lei Liko]

I'd like to see some of those complaining go to France, or Italy or even England and try to pronounce some of their words.

I dont understand the animosity towards her and "trying to pronounce" Hawaiian words. I still sometimes say "Yoowa Beach" instead of "Ehva", and people laugh with me and not at me thankfully. lol

Even though I speak English, French and German, I still understand the challenges of pronunciations and try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

You're comparing Kau and Florida Oranges here.

I think the animosity lies with the fact that RR acts as an expert on these places on her TV show. When she incorrectly says "Hah-lay-ee-wa" instead of "Hah-leh-ee-va" and "Hah-nah-lew-lew" instead of "Hoh-noh-loo-loo", millions (and I'm being generous here) of viewers think that that's the correct way to say it.

Add the fact that she's just so freaking annoying and that's why people are quick to hate on her so much.

[Keanu]

Didn't Ray once refer to Brad Pitt as a "Pussy Boy" and Angelina Jolie as a "skanky backdoor c**t"?

She's annoying but she can't be all that bad.

[glossyp]

The dearly beloved and I believe that her crew, and at the very least her local guides, knew she was mangling the pronunciation and just let it go because they are secretly resentful of her and took delight in letting her appear ignorant. I am sympathetic to those feelings.

[Leo Lakio]

Didn't Ray once refer to Brad Pitt as a "Pussy Boy" and Angelina Jolie as a "skanky backdoor c**t"? WHOA! I'd love to see the citations on that - my respect for her just might go up a notch! (I said "might" - if you quote me, I'll deny it.)

First time this episode aired, I had to shut it off after 2.5 minutes, because of the mispronunciations. As Da Rolling Eye said earlier, her staff should have been more helpful in assisting Ms. Ray in trying to get a little closer to accuracy. Not expecting perfection, but also not comfortable with how far off she was - no excuse for that much sloppiness for a national television production.

Though I like glossyp's assessment, too.

[LocalMotion]

I think we give her so much flack is becuase, it's a TV show that is edited, cut, rearranged, etc.. and you would think difficult words would be pronounnced somewhat correct....

as for sexiest... i drool for

Giada De Laurentiis

http://www.giadadelaurentiis.com/images/press_lamag_pic.jpg

[Lei K]

In Rachael Ray's defense (when it comes to her looks) I think she's quite attractive. She's got a very pretty face. Her and Katharine McPhee (American Idol finalist) often remind me of eachother.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9811/mcpheerayra9.jpg

[Lei Liko]

Oh yeah, that Rachael Ray's one hot tamale alright (http://perezhilton.com/topics/rachael_ray/dont_quit_your_day_job_20070202.php) [/sarcasm]

Caution: some images at the link are NSFW.

[Keanu]

Nigella Lawson has my vote for sexiest Food Network woman. She is so sensual, amazing. She captures me everytime she's on.



If I had a vote for sexiest food network woman, it would go to Kaga Takeshi, the eccentric Japense Liberace from Iron Chef. :D

[DannyWilliams]

since were tossing other chefs I am throwing this mate into the thread

http://z.about.com/d/gourmetfood/1/0/w/4/JamieOliver400x401.jpg


Imagine him saying hawaiian words? :D

I would be too distracted by his lisping:rolleyes:

[oggboy]

Julia Childs, anyone remember her.....

[oceanpacific]

Julia Childs, anyone remember her.....

I had a hard time understanding her diction.

Once in awhile, cable has re-runs of Graham Kerr, the Galloping Gourmet. I also watched CUISINE RAPIDE.

[Random]

as for sexiest... i drool for

Giada De Laurentiis
Mmm. She can handle my eggplant anytime, although mine's not bloated like them italians. ;)

[cynsaligia]

:mad:

i think anyone who bashes rachael ray should read the following piece from slate: http://www.slate.com/id/2122085/ (it includes what i think is a rather cute pic of her in a bikini, splashing in kitchen sink, from men's mag FHM)

i think it's ridiculous to hold her to the same standards that we do chefs like bourdain (who i also like, and who hates ray with a passion). i mean, come on--SHE IS NOT A CHEF. that's like comparing the owner of preston chun of R&P cafe and catering to chef kobayashi, who trained in avignon, of cafe miro.

oh, and let's not forget that elitists like chef bourdain are just as guilty as the plebian supermarket cook ray in butchering lots of different languages. have any of you watched bourdain's "no reservations" eppy in japan? i don't speak japanese, but i winced almost as much as my beau, who is japanese and speaks some of the language, did. shoot, zane lamprey from "three sheets" did better in his opening mini-mopnologue completely in japanese when he did a show on sake. and nevermind the headache i got watching the "bizarre foods" eppy in the PI, tho i'm inclined to forgive chef zimmern because he left actually liking balut.

another thing--please, let's not go touting sam choy as rachael ray's better. his forte is hawaiian food, plate lunch, etc., and nothing else (except maybe chinese stir-fry, hadunno). not that there is anything wrong with that. but tho he was part of the original hawaiian regional cuisine guys, he's nowhere near as talented or skilled as russell, alan, or ray, despite some people's granting him similar status. in fact, my opinion is that sam deserved cat cora using him as a rag with which to wipe kitchen stadium. a more appropriate show for sam would have been...ha! an eppy of 30 minute meals with rach. have you guys watched sam's show lately? sheesh--the one i saw months ago, he had the oil heated way too hot and he burned the first three pieces of whatever it was that he was frying. even rachael isn't as bad as that. and somehow, some of us think he's a great chef? pfft. yeah--a great chef who thinks a good crab louie consists of cloying mayonnaise and mostly somen salad (the last meal i will ever had at BLC, thank you very much). even my work's cafeteria does a better hawaiian spread than choy does, and that opinion comes both from the son and wife of one of sam's kahuku classmates, and both are foodies. they went to one of my work functions where hawaiian food was served one sunday afternoon, and that same night to a kahuku class of 70 reunion at BLC where hawaiian food was also served.

yes, the idea of osso bucco soup is heartbreaking if you're a foodie. but if you're someone who also has a real life with a real job and/or real school, and maybe children and spouse, you'll take those thirty minute meals she makes any day because she does provide useful lessons for home cooks. (whether they're truly 30 min meals is another issue entirely, of course) not every one of us can cook like professionally trained giada or sara moulton or shoot, even emeril everyday. but we all can cook like rachael every day, and i think, given the alternative of fast food or plate lunch, we'd be better of learning from rachael. shoot--most men i know would be satisfied with their wifes/girlfriends if they could cook as well as rach did (i recently overheard a guy friend say of his quasi-girlfriend, "yeah, she can cook...if you call turkey sandwiches cooking).

the vitriol against ray is fierce--yes, as if she had filet-ed a baby seal. but the chef who came closest to that offense was bourdain himself, and he did it on a linoleum kitchen floor. yep--bourdain shared a meal of freshly killed, raw seal on newspapers on a kitchen floor with an inuit family, which he saw as a great honor (and i agree with him).

in proper context, even killing a seal is acceptable.

in proper context, rachael ray is exactly what many of us need, whether we can admit it or not.

[scrivener]

in proper context, rachael ray is exactly what many of us need, whether we can admit it or not.
Post of the week.

At an HT picnic a couple of years ago, Jen brought Rachael Ray's chili and it was terrific. I like tomatoey chilis.

[Leo Lakio]

rachael ray is exactly what many of us needOnly when accompanied by a re-adjustment of my meds.:p

[Kelly0040]

A few weeks ago, I caught Rachel's "Chefography" episode when they were rerunning a bunch. It was interesting to see how she ended up on television and in cooking. I've never really cared for her - she's way too bubbly for me, but I dig her 30-minute meals because that's the way I'd cook (using all the shortcuts I can, I mean). When she beat Giada on Iron Chef tho, hahahaha. You could tell she was gonna win halfway through. Seemed like Giada couldn't handle it and Bobby wasn't thrilled to be there. Thought it was kinda odd they didn't just let them go head to head.

Anyway, speaking of Jamie, he had an interesting show on BBC America (I think?) where he tried to change what was fed to kids in public schools. My husband and I were both drawn to it...prolly cuz what we ate for hot lunch was not nearly as yummy looking as what he was fixing. Heck, it looked better than what we have for dinner sometimes. :) The whole process was really interesting.

I think the guy from TLC's "Take Home Chef" is cutiepatootie (and geeky-lookin, which is why I really like him haha) and he can pick me up at the market anytime he wants!

OH and the show with Gordon Ramsay...it's called "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares" on BBC America. I love watching that one when I catch it. It's not really a cooking show - it's a show about screwed up restaurants and their lazy cooks. Apparently, the American version is coming to Fox this summer, so I guess they'll have two Gordon shows this summer? Ahhh!

[Pomai]

When she beat Giada on Iron Chef tho, hahahaha. You could tell she was gonna win halfway through. Seemed like Giada couldn't handle it and Bobby wasn't thrilled to be there. Thought it was kinda odd they didn't just let them go head to head.
!If you watch Giada's reaction when they called the win for Rachael, you could clearly see Giada was upset and humiliated while holding a grimacing smile.

I'm guessing those two aren't exactly buddies behind the scenes. Like cats. REEEEER-REEEEEEER!

[Random]

another thing--please, let's not go touting sam choy as rachael ray's better. his forte is hawaiian food, plate lunch, etc., and nothing else (except maybe chinese stir-fry, hadunno). not that there is anything wrong with that. but tho he was part of the original hawaiian regional cuisine guys, he's nowhere near as talented or skilled as russell, alan, or ray, despite some people's granting him similar status. in fact, my opinion is that sam deserved cat cora using him as a rag with which to wipe kitchen stadium. a more appropriate show for sam would have been...ha! an eppy of 30 minute meals with rach. have you guys watched sam's show lately? sheesh--the one i saw months ago, he had the oil heated way too hot and he burned the first three pieces of whatever it was that he was frying. even rachael isn't as bad as that. and somehow, some of us think he's a great chef? pfft. yeah--a great chef who thinks a good crab louie consists of cloying mayonnaise and mostly somen salad (the last meal i will ever had at BLC, thank you very much). even my work's cafeteria does a better hawaiian spread than choy does, and that opinion comes both from the son and wife of one of sam's kahuku classmates, and both are foodies. they went to one of my work functions where hawaiian food was served one sunday afternoon, and that same night to a kahuku class of 70 reunion at BLC where hawaiian food was also served.
To me, Sam Choy and Rachael Ray are better. I don't want to cook like Russell, Alan, or Ray. I don't even want to cook like Chai.

I'm not snooty. I'm basic and simple. I don't host dinner parties with a tie, I host backyard barbecues with a bottle opener on a lanyard around my neck.

I'm not too concerned with her butchering the Hawaiian language. When she starts butchering the Ilocano language, then I'll want to spank her onolicious butt.

[Lei K]

Mmm. She can handle my eggplant anytime, although mine's not bloated like them italians. ;)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How could I have missed this post before? :p

Eh, Tiki, is this rumor about Italian men true? ;)

[cynsaligia]

Post of the week.

At an HT picnic a couple of years ago, Jen brought Rachael Ray's chili and it was terrific. I like tomatoey chilis.

*does the cabbage patch in celebration for the "post of the week" blessing*

i've cooked several of rachael ray's recipes. my favorites include the tuna pan bagnat and the tomato soup. who said only campbell's was mmm mmm good?! i wanna say, YUM-O!

as for the eggplant comment...err....*mumbles only slightly incoherently about the delicacy that is japanese eggplant* :p

[Hellbent]

those fhm (http://www.torontopics.com/digital/ray.html) pictures of rr are kinda weird. like too much photoshop or face makeup.

[DiverDown808]

Loooooooooooooooooove the strawberry pic.

I'm sorry, say all the bad things you want about her. I think she's delish, and she's up in the top 5 of my women to do list. :D

Hah Lay EE Wah - hehehe I think she just had mouth freeze from the shave ice she was eating. :eek:

DD

[blueyecicle]

I don't understand why everyone is so hard on her. She does not claim to be a chef she is just kind of every cooks shortcut gal.

Attacking her weight is just ridiculous.
She is not obese. she is funky and cute and just happens to be in the spolight.
Just a pots and pans salesman who happened to make it big.

Kind of the old Hollywood stories.
She's cool, she may not be for everyone but she hasn't done anything to warrant such hate and attacks.

Everyone sticks their foot in their mouth on occasion it just isn't in the headlines. *thank heavens for that!*

It sucks she did such a terrible job with her vocab. But she freely admits she is not well educated nor an expert. Now it is very well broadcasted she was correct!:p

[Leo Lakio]

Okay, okay - to be honest, I don't hate her. I just don't really have much of a reaction to her either way. Her appearance has no connection to her talent (or lack of it) in kitchen skills, but she would fall on the "pretty" side of the scale, imo. I never considered her weight to be an issue; I don't think she looks fat or plump or whatever term you would prefer. She looks - dare I say it - quite "normal."

[glossyp]

as for sexiest... i drool for

Giada De Laurentiis

We call her show "Everyday Cleavage" in our house. Rachel Ray is who she is and her show makes for a great drinking game. Take a shot every time she says "up" or "evoo" and you'll be snockered in five mintues. :D

[Random]

as for the eggplant comment...err....*mumbles only slightly incoherently about the delicacy that is japanese eggplant* :p
In their dreams. :p
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Mine, too.

[Kungpao]

Rachel was real cool when she first got popular but the market's just gotten so Uber saturated with her and people are getting annoyed. I mean How much Yummo and EVOO can one stand?!? lol.

BTW, PZ... My mom (who works for Kraft) mentioned that kraft foods stock is on a nowntrend and I told them it's cause people aren't buying products with RR on them anymore LOL.

As for Giada... I like her and her recipes on her show sound good but her smile (http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0606/delaurentis_0602.jpg) can be rather frightening at times. Just look at this guy's (http://15minutelunch.blogspot.com/2006/02/man-servant-endures-everyday-insanity.html) blog.:D

Oh and as mentioned here on HT (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=10429&highlight=nigella) Let's not forget Nigella (http://twoday.net/static/bookworm/images/Nigella.jpg)

[cynsaligia]

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as for the eggplant comment...err....*mumbles only slightly incoherently about the delicacy that is japanese eggplant* :p

In their dreams. :p
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Mine, too.


i do declare that japanese eggplant is the preferred eggplant in my house. i don't care if there is a double entendre in that statement. japanese eggplant does better in filipino food than other kind. i don't care that there is an underlying allegory in that statement, also. *stomps foot impetuously and half-smirks*

ANYWAY, my next question would have been who won the iron chef challenge b/w rachael & giada, and again, while i do like both, i am gratified to hear from y'all that rachael won. in retrospect, it would make sense that rachael would win a timed contest given her background.

much has been said here about rachael's appearance (and i prefer her much more with darker hair, not that atrocious overhighlighted straw that now passes as her hair), but if i were to stoop to shallowly judging giada by her appearance--she's got an exquisite face until you realize her forehead goes on seemingly forever. at the same time, that high forehead, if you're into high foreheads, does kinda give her a regal, lioness-like appearance, esp with her hairstyle.

i could also post my musings about the motives behind putting rach and giada against each other, esp since professional cooking is still largely a testosterone-driven profession. let me point out that we NEVER compare one male chef's appearance to another male chef's, at least not to the degree that we do the women, and yes, i know this is an enduring complaint that we make as women--why are women, no matter what their professional achievements, still judged by their appearance in ways men never are. bleh, i feel myself digressing again waaaaay too much so i'll stop here bcs i'm not feeling so ambitious to start a separate thread.

[Leo Lakio]

let me point out that we NEVER compare one male chef's appearance to another male chef's, at least not to the degree that we do the womenOf course, since it's been said that you should never trust a skinny chef, that may be one reason I prefer the larger Mario Batali over the lesser Bobby Flay.

Well, that and Flay comes across as an arrogant sh!t, much of the time.

So, Cyn - Chef Kerry Simon ... hot or not?:cool:

[Random]

i do declare that japanese eggplant is the preferred eggplant in my house. i don't care if there is a double entendre in that statement. japanese eggplant does better in filipino food than other kind. i don't care that there is an underlying allegory in that statement, also. *stomps foot impetuously and half-smirks*
No way! The long, crooked Chinese eggplant mo bettah in filipino dishes.

Must ... resist ... double ... entendre.

[Random]

i could also post my musings about the motives behind putting rach and giada against each other, esp since professional cooking is still largely a testosterone-driven profession. let me point out that we NEVER compare one male chef's appearance to another male chef's, at least not to the degree that we do the women, and yes, i know this is an enduring complaint that we make as women--why are women, no matter what their professional achievements, still judged by their appearance in ways men never are. bleh, i feel myself digressing again waaaaay too much so i'll stop here bcs i'm not feeling so ambitious to start a separate thread.
So, who you wahines like? Alan Wong or Chai? Chai or Choy? Choy or Prudhomme? Ming or Yan?

[cynsaligia]

Of course, since it's been said that you should never trust a skinny chef, that may be one reason I prefer the larger Mario Batali over the lesser Bobby Flay.

Well, that and Flay comes across as an arrogant sh!t, much of the time.

So, Cyn - Chef Kerry Simon ... hot or not?:cool:

flay's married to the blond ice queen who used to be on L&O SVU--the one whose character suffered a fake death and went into witness protection, not the one who used to be on Joss Whedon's Angel.

Kerry Simon? bleh. i'm not into the shaggy hairy chef look, bcs i'd worry about said hair being in my soup. Todd English? double bleh, esp w/his rather rich frat boy/athelete-ish tendencies. however, slap Tyler Florence on a plate with some au jus and give me a biscuit and i'll devour that. the english guy with a lisp is rather cute in a sorta effete way, and i think i find him more attractive if i watch "naked chef" with the sound off. by the way, i resent the false advertising of that show's title. i really was hoping for a show hosted by a male chef wearing nothing but the apron. *pout*

alton brown was voted one of the finalists for sexiest man living at salon.com (http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2006/11/17/sexiest_man/index2.html), and i'm not going to argue with that.

No way! The long, crooked Chinese eggplant mo bettah in filipino dishes.

Must ... resist ... double ... entendre.

you know, some would say there's not much difference between the varieties of asian...eggplant. but i know better.

So, who you wahines like? Alan Wong or Chai? Chai or Choy? Choy or Prudhomme? Ming or Yan?

given the choices named, i guess i'll take ming tsai. he's kinda good looking, but his bad camera angles are...not as flattering as his good ones.

as for mario batali--has anyone else heard that he detests emeril, and that's why mario constantly makes a point of saying that in good, genuine italian cooking, there's never an overabundance of garlic? is there any credence to that?

[reineke]

Rachael Ray's "$40 a Day" show tonight on Food Network was done on Oahu.. boy did she really butcher the hawaiian language! i don't think i heard her same one hawaiian word even closely right. you would think that someone would correct her for the narration.. guess not

Has anyone seen her on that show actually not liking something and saying it? Whenever I watch her I'm waiting for that fake Mmmm... delicious routine. She has butchered many languages. She's cute so she's forgiven. Rachel, just for once, spit it out ladylike in a napkin and ask for your money back!

[Leo Lakio]

in good, genuine italian cooking, there's never an overabundance of garlic? is there any credence to that?Several years back, I heard a local chef say "there's no such thing as too much sex ... or too much garlic."

Unless, of course, you aren't getting to share in either one.:eek:

[reineke]

as for mario batali--has anyone else heard that he detests emeril, and that's why mario constantly makes a point of saying that in good, genuine italian cooking, there's never an overabundance of garlic? is there any credence to that?[/QUOTE]

I don't know about any feuds between them but Italians eat about 1 kg per year (according to an Italian website). I find it a rather small amount, any garlic hater would find it excessive :)

[Random]

I don't know about any feuds between them but Italians eat about 1 kg per year (according to an Italian website). I find it a rather small amount, any garlic hater would find it excessive :)
Eh, when a filipino dish recipe calls for 2 cloves of garlic, I put 3, and I look for the really fat ones.

But you will never catch me eating them raw. Like bago'ong, they're flavor enhancers.

I also like to put tad more pepper to avoid using salt.

[tikiyaki]

as for mario batali--has anyone else heard that he detests emeril, and that's why mario constantly makes a point of saying that in good, genuine italian cooking, there's never an overabundance of garlic? is there any credence to that?

IMO, he's right.

As a 100% Sicilian blooded , 2nd generation American, growing up on mom's amazing cooking, and an extended family of amazing Italian cooks, nothing irritates me more than those "Italian" restaurants that overdo the garlic on everything. :mad:

For instance, A really good tomato sauce should have a nice balance of the tomato flavor, garlic flavor, and basil flavor The balance is so important.

I guess that's why I don't like "marinara" as much. Usually no basil, and very garlic-y.

[reineke]

Lol, over here in DC "authentic Italian" is rarely authentic. I know a couple of restaurants that are good (and really run by Italians) but the best Italian food I ever had in the US was in New York.

One kilo of garlic per year isn't that much, but I'd say they both have a point. Most of the time it's like Mario says, but occasionally people like to go bang! more garlic!

One kilo per year is also divided across the entire population. Some Italians eat more garlic than others. I believe Indians consume much more.

I eat it raw, I grew up with it and some foods would just not taste right without some onion or garlic on the side.

[tikiyaki]

Lol, over here in DC "authentic Italian" is rarely authentic. I know a couple of restaurants that are good (and really run by Italians) but the best Italian food I ever had in the US was in New York.

One kilo of garlic per year isn't that much, but I'd say they both have a point. Most of the time it's like Mario says, but occasionally people like to go bang! more garlic!

One kilo per year is also divided across the entire population. Some Italians eat more garlic than others. I believe Indians consume much more.

I eat it raw, I grew up with it and some foods would just not taste right without some onion or garlic on the side.

LOL...I'm from NY too. Yea, good Italian restaurants there, and of course, the best pizza.

Funny, I see some people on this board getting excited about "Olive Garden" coming to Hawaii, when they have a really good, small, homegrown chain of Italian restaurants on Oahu called "Assagio", which, for my money have better food than most of the Italian places here in LA.

My litmus for a good Italian place is, of course the sauce, and Assagio's tomato basil was DAMN good. The one in Hawaii Kai was a little better than the one in Kailua, but both were really good.

[Da Rolling Eye]

LOL...I'm from NY too. Yea, good Italian restaurants there, and of course, the best pizza.

Funny, I see some people on this board getting excited about "Olive Garden" coming to Hawaii, when they have a really good, small, homegrown chain of Italian restaurants on Oahu called "Assagio", which, for my money have better food than most of the Italian places here in LA.

My litmus for a good Italian place is, of course the sauce, and Assagio's tomato basil was DAMN good. The one in Hawaii Kai was a little better than the one in Kailua, but both were really good.
My brother and his family just moved back to Hawai'i after living on Long Island for the past 10 years or so. He said the same thing about Italian food and pizza. Just can't beat NY. He also said that the better local Italian restaurants are the Assagios. I guess it's safe to say it's true? :D

[Pomai]

Funny, I see some people on this board getting excited about "Olive Garden" coming to Hawaii, when they have a really good, small, homegrown chain of Italian restaurants on Oahu called "Assagio", which, for my money have better food than most of the Italian places here in LA.

My litmus for a good Italian place is, of course the sauce, and Assagio's tomato basil was DAMN good. The one in Hawaii Kai was a little better than the one in Kailua, but both were really good....and the irony to that is that Assagio is actually owned by a Vietnamese guy (http://starbulletin.com/1999/04/28/features/story1.html) who was influenced from working at a former well-known Italian Restaurant on Oahu named Castagnola's.

That rumour of Mario not liking Emeril I find hard to believe. I've heard Emeril make a snide remark about Anthony Bordain once. Maybe that's why Bordain's "A Cook's Tour" isn't on the network anymore. Love or hate him, but Emeril is the "on camera CEO" and ambassador of the Food Network. I wouldn't wanna' get on his bad side if a Food Network show were my day job.

It's good to hear SUPPORT here for Rachael. Even with whatever said flaws she has (like we all do), I really like her. :)

[tikiyaki]

...and the irony to that is that Assagio is actually owned by a Vietnamese guy (http://starbulletin.com/1999/04/28/features/story1.html) who was influenced from working at a former well-known Italian Restaurant on Oahu named Castagnola's.


Well, ironic that he's not Italian, yea, but the fact that his food is good means he was paying attention and not going by some Franchise Rulebook, which is what the Olive Garden goes by I'm sure.

Rolling Eye, I grew up on Long Island. The Italian food and pizza there, ESPECIALLY the pizza is pretty amazing. There's pretty much a pizza place in every strip mall, and ALOT of them are great. :D

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Rachael Ray, or any other chick from Des Moines, what does it matter how they butcher 'olelo? As long as they are humble, cheerful and/or a little bit self-depreciating at their honest attempt at spitting out tongue-twisters, more power to 'em. But if you are from here, and opt to represent here in some capacity, then make the damned effort to know where you are. That goes for politicians, tour guides, local media personalities, teachers, dispatchers, everyone who comes in contact with fellow beings here in Hawai'i.

Aside from that, I have watched her show exactly one time. She was cute and perky and her voice was annoying. I am not into cooking shows, so I don't know the personalities that you are talking about.

[reineke]

I forgot to mention that in front of that restaurant in NY we were greeted by this somewhat suspicious-looking Italian guy who told us that we didn't have to eat at his place but that we should not go to the competition next door since paramedics were regular visitors there. I liked the story so much I had to eat at his place. It was wonderful.

LOL...I'm from NY too. Yea, good Italian restaurants there, and of course, the best pizza.

Funny, I see some people on this board getting excited about "Olive Garden" coming to Hawaii, when they have a really good, small, homegrown chain of Italian restaurants on Oahu called "Assagio", which, for my money have better food than most of the Italian places here in LA.

My litmus for a good Italian place is, of course the sauce, and Assagio's tomato basil was DAMN good. The one in Hawaii Kai was a little better than the one in Kailua, but both were really good.

[tikiyaki]

I forgot to mention that in front of that restaurant in NY we were greeted by this somewhat suspicious-looking Italian guy who told us that we didn't have to eat at his place but that we should not go to the competition next door since paramedics were regular visitors there. I liked the story so much I had to eat at his place. It was wonderful.

Classic. I can imagine him saying it with the Noo Yawk accent. :D

[MadAzza]

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As a 100% Sicilian blooded , 2nd generation American, growing up on mom's amazing cooking, and an extended family of amazing Italian cooks, nothing irritates me more than those "Italian" restaurants that overdo the garlic on everything. :mad:

God, how I envy you your gastronomia familia (Yeah, I made that up based on my limited Italian … extremely limited Italian.)

Perhaps you or someone else can explain something to me, or tell me if you've ever heard of this: I love garlic, but I seem to be somewhat immune to it. It is the only flavoring that I know of that I have to have loads of in a dish before I can really taste it. I really have to use a lot of it, or I can't really tell it's there. But I can smell the tiniest amount on someone's breath! Which doesn't make sense to me, because of the way the olfactory system works -- the direct connection between smell and taste.

When I eat roasted garlic on bread, I have no problem tasting it. It seems to be just when it's in recipes, regardless of who cooks (I, a friend, a restaurant or whatever).

[tikiyaki]

God, how I envy you your gastronomia familia (Yeah, I made that up based on my limited Italian … extremely limited Italian.)

Perhaps you or someone else can explain something to me, or tell me if you've ever heard of this: I love garlic, but I seem to be somewhat immune to it. It is the only flavoring that I know of that I have to have loads of in a dish before I can really taste it. I really have to use a lot of it, or I can't really tell it's there. But I can smell the tiniest amount on someone's breath! Which doesn't make sense to me, because of the way the olfactory system works -- the direct connection between smell and taste.

When I eat roasted garlic on bread, I have no problem tasting it. It seems to be just when it's in recipes, regardless of who cooks (I, a friend, a restaurant or whatever).

Hmmm...interesting. What do you consider "loads" of garlic? Also, maybe you've been conditioned by years of eating food with alot of garlic, so now, if you add minimally, you don't really taste it. Or maybe the food your adding it to, is very flavorful on it's own. Also, are you saute'ing the garlic in Olive Oil, or just adding it raw ? Raw garlic can be pretty intense. :eek:

I myself am guilty of UNDER garlicking my food when I make it, for fear of that whole "reaking of garlic" thing...


BTW...Maddy, where ya been hiding ?

Disclaimer :
I apologize for any spelling errors or using words that don't exist in the above statement

[Da Rolling Eye]

Perhaps you or someone else can explain something to me, or tell me if you've ever heard of this: I love garlic, but I seem to be somewhat immune to it. It is the only flavoring that I know of that I have to have loads of in a dish before I can really taste it. I really have to use a lot of it, or I can't really tell it's there. But I can smell the tiniest amount on someone's breath! Which doesn't make sense to me, because of the way the olfactory system works -- the direct connection between smell and taste.

When I eat roasted garlic on bread, I have no problem tasting it. It seems to be just when it's in recipes, regardless of who cooks (I, a friend, a restaurant or whatever).
Paisanos in Manoa ain't shy with the garlic. Give them a try. I usually have to scoop some of the garlic off as I find it too overpowering. Assagios steaks are also garlic heavy. Pizza Bob's white pizza has minced garlic liberally spread on top. So much that it takes on a good bite and some parts are bitter. I still like it.:)

For home cooking, I use a garlic press. Seems the garlic is much stronger when using one to prep it for recipes. For some reason, home minced, crushed, roasted or whatever just doesn't keep it's potency. For instance, my kalbi sauce is way different and better when I use a garlic press as opposed to chopping and mincing. I don't know why. :confused: :D

[Pomai]

Ever try that finely minced garlic sold in jars at Costco and Sam's? Insanely cheap at under $4 for a 32 oz. jar, and ready to load up if you love lots of garlic. Can't beat fresh, but for the price and convenience, it's great.

[reineke]

But how hard can it be to peel a couple of cloves of garlic? :)

[Random]

But how hard can it be to peel a couple of cloves of garlic? :)
Peeling it without any harm? Hard.

Gotta mash'em with a knife or something. Them tube or pad that you roll the garlic in take long work.

You like'm minced, buy garlic press, unless you're Martin Yan.