Do's and Dont's

[TATTRAT]

Moving to Oahu, I would like to know some insiders perspectives of do's and dont's...and I mean everything from things to be sure to check out, and things to avoid, what to wear/pack, to Island etiquette.

Being from Bermuda, I know we(BDA natives)cherish our small island, and also know that having a large tourist trade there are things you have to tolerate(to point). I can't speak from experience, yet, but I assume there is a great deal of national pride in Hawaii, and I just want some honest input.

Humility is crucial in a new environment, drive with courtesy, don't stare, shop outside the cities,don't be a loud mouth, be respectful in ALL aspects, don't do anything you wouldn't do in your own place...these are all things that hold true in BDA, do they hold true to HI.

Thanks for any input.

[timkona]

Do drive with courtesy. This means stopping in the middle of intersections with green lights, to let somebody merge in, while others behind you slam the brakes.

Do act with humility. Nobody likes a winner in Hawaii.

Shop at Costco. Then complain about all the big box stores we have.

Be respectful. This applies most when ignorant people say crazy things.

It's been 15 years, and I still have not mastered all these skills.

[lavagal]

Do act with humility. Nobody likes a winner in Hawaii.

.

Are you whining, TimKona? :rolleyes:


Yo Tatt: Whatcha got lined up for a job here in Hawaii?

[TATTRAT]

Yo Tatt: Whatcha got lined up for a job here in Hawaii?

Nothing as of yet, I have a few options, but nothing carved in stone. I am a Chef.

[timkona]

Big Time Lavagal.

[LikaNui]

Do drive with courtesy. This means stopping in the middle of intersections with green lights, to let somebody merge in, while others behind you slam the brakes.
Do act with humility. Nobody likes a winner in Hawaii.
Shop at Costco. Then complain about all the big box stores we have.
Be respectful. This applies most when ignorant people say crazy things. Ooooh, Tim is taking over the "curmudgeon" role, previously occupied by Kimo in 'welcoming' newbies! :p

Tattrat, welcome to the group, where you'll mostly get serious answers.

:D

[timkona]

Title of Curmudgeon.

Feels like a promotion. I think. Or maybe I'm just stressing on turning 40 in June.:eek:

[Keanu]

It's been 15 years, and I still have not mastered all these skills.

http://www.uradex.be/FR/img/violin_player.jpg

[Leo Lakio]

This thread just gets funnier and funnier. Tim's postings today, in several threads, are making me chuckle - then the violin takes it over the top.

Tim - no biggie, unless you are haunted by your old threads complaining about the aging baby-boomers ruining everything. Of course, you're a little late to be a boomer - but as for the aging part ... well, it beats the alternative.

When in June? The Alpha Female is the 13th.

[timkona]

Gen X all the way here. Poured about 6 million quarters into video games in the 80's. The big day is the 18th. I will be on top of Mauna Loa. Your Alpha f. is prolly a wicked-smart genius, damn fine looking, and a Gemini.

And you are right. I have been in a pitch of a mood this morning. Started early with phone calls from morons. They got me going. Then my wife started in on me about the early phone ringing. Then my kid was buggin before she went to school. Then I stubbed my toe. Not too badly, but the icing on the cake.

I'm about one more phone call away from checkin out to the beach.

PS - the violin shot was killin me too. thx keanu.

[Miulang]

Can you imagine what TK's gonna go through when he hits 50? Or 60? if he's stressing about turning 40?:D Will someone please tell him that it gets better with age (oh wait, maybe it only gets better for WOMEN:D )

Miulang

[Leo Lakio]

Your Alpha f. is prolly a wicked-smart genius, damn fine looking, and a Gemini.Yes, yes, yes - and I'm biased.
And you are right. I have been in a pitch of a mood this morning...I'm about one more phone call away from checkin out to the beach.What's your number? :D Go! Even though I like the humor in your sarcasm when your mood is bad - go. Give yourself that break, and get re-tuned.

[LikaNui]

Then I stubbed my toe. Not too badly, but the icing on the cake. Wow. That must have been some hard icing if it hurt your toe.
[/rimshot]
Get well soon, brah.

PS - the violin shot was killin me too. thx keanu. And ditto from me too, Keanu. Cracked me up!

:p

[LikaNui]

Will someone please tell him that it gets better with age (oh wait, maybe it only gets better for WOMEN :D ) Or, maybe it only gets better for the majority of women. :D
[/high five to Miulang]

:)

[Leo Lakio]

And there's your "do" lesson for the day, TATTRAT. When participating in discussions on HT, even if you get into heated debates with people, you can still have respect for and share a laugh with them. Do.

("Do" try to get back on-topic, even if weakly. "Don't" annoy/tease the admin/mods, who are all beloved individuals. ;) )

[blueyecicle]

"Don't" say anything offensive!
HAHAHA!! :p

Says the foot in mouth QUEEN!

[Keanu]

And there's your "do" lesson for the day, TATTRAT. When participating in discussions on HT, even if you get into heated debates with people, you can still have respect for and share a laugh with them. Do.



Absolutely. That's one of the things I like about HT. :)

[sinjin]

Title of Curmudgeon.

Feels like a promotion. I think. Or maybe I'm just stressing on turning 40 in June.:eek: If you don't like 40 you're gonna hate 45. That's when the losses become painfully apparent.

[TATTRAT]

And there's your "do" lesson for the day, TATTRAT. When participating in discussions on HT, even if you get into heated debates with people, you can still have respect for and share a laugh with them. Do.

("Do" try to get back on-topic, even if weakly. "Don't" annoy/tease the admin/mods, who are all beloved individuals. ;) )

gotacha.

The kind atmosphere I picked up on reading for a few days, before posting today...I was lurkinghttp://www.onlinewebservice4.de/forumowspix/wall.gif

[Miulang]

If you don't like 40 you're gonna hate 45. That's when the losses become painfully apparent.Hmmm...what losses are those for men, I wonder?;) Isn't that about the time when men start concentrating on their "toys"????

Miulang

[Keanu]

Hmmm...what losses are those for men, I wonder?;)

Miulang

Well lets start with pubic region hair loss and go on from there.

[tikiyaki]

http://www.uradex.be/FR/img/violin_player.jpg

Oh My God, I just fell off my chair. Keanu, that's the funniest post I've seen in a long time. :D Thank You !

TimKona - 40 is the new 30, so no worries. ;)

My favorite quote about age came from Jack Blades (from Night Ranger and Damn Yankees) about Ted Nugent.

"It's not how old you are, but how you are old"

Anyway, We'll keep the violins ready for the funeral. (June 17th)

[Leo Lakio]

Isn't that about the time when men start concentrating on their "toys"????I started concentrating on that when I was twelve.




Oh. That's ... not what you meant, is it?



Never mind. :o

[WindwardOahuRN]

If you don't like 40 you're gonna hate 45. That's when the losses become painfully apparent.

Right after the stroke of midnight on the 365th day of your 44th year.

Inevitable. Don't say we didn't warn ya.

[tutusue]

[...]Feels like a promotion. I think. Or maybe I'm just stressing on turning 40 in June.:eek:
If it makes ya feel any better, TK, you're younger than my daughter!
Hmmm...I didn't think so! <g>
[...]then the violin takes it over the top.[...]
OMG...that was tooooo funny!
[...]Even though I like the humor in your sarcasm when your mood is bad...[...]
Yah! What's up with that?! TK is making me laugh today. Sorry it's the result of a crappy mood, TK, but, well, you're just more fun when you're in a lousy mood! :D
Well lets start with pubic region hair loss and go on from there.
At 45? :confused: Looking for a solution? Take a look at the 3rd and 5th bullet points here (http://www.hinohairstyles.com/). I'm sure they can be woven to size!!!!!!

[oceanpacific]

[QUOTE=timkona;140142]Your Alpha f. is prolly a wicked-smart genius, damn fine looking, and a Gemini.

I'm long past that "magic" number of 40. I remember a friend commenting to me at age 23: DO YOU REALIZE THAT IN 17 YEARS WE'LL BE 40?

I thought: THAT'S A STRANGE WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TRUE.

Now, it's more than 17 years since I passed 40 and I'm closer to 70 than 40. But, then again, they say that 70 is the new 50.

And my AF is all of the above ................ and then some. :D I'm a LUCKY BASTARD!

[tutusue]

[...]Now, it's more than 17 years since I passed 40 and I'm closer to 70 than 40. But, then again, they say that 70 is the new 50.[...]
Age has certainly been redefined (thank goodness!) but, unfortunately, the number itself still holds a special stigma. Why? I don't know! I have yet to hit the wall on any of the numbers; maybe because I watched in horror how my mom reacted to her numbers and vowed I'd never let it get to me. To her credit she waited 'til she was 60 before she outwardly let it get to her. So far an AARP membership, senior discounts, my first social security check and an eventual Medicare enrollment have yet to kick me to the curb. I do notice a few more (well, a lot more!) aches and pains, tho'! Maybe those are the result of being kicked to the curb and not remembering it! :D

[lavagal]

I am a damn fine 48; and you can watch this girl catch some waves tomorrow morning out here in Hawaii Kai. Oh my, it's the chenin blanc talkin'!!

[WindwardOahuRN]

I am a damn fine 48; and you can watch this girl catch some waves tomorrow morning out here in Hawaii Kai. Oh my, it's the chenin blanc talkin'!!

LOL....let the chenin blanc rouler....you go girl!

:::Lovin' the way that chenin blanc softens the edges:::

[lavagal]

LOL....let the chenin blanc rouler....you go girl!

:::Lovin' the way that chenin blanc softens the edges:::

It's like a nice south shore swell washing over the sand, sea foam sizzling in the sun. @;-)

[Keanu]

I am a damn fine 48; and you can watch this girl catch some waves tomorrow morning out here in Hawaii Kai.


Catch waves or eat waves? :p :D

[Keanu]

Btw, has anybody answered the original questions asked at the top of the thread? you all should be ashamed of yourselves. :o

[tutusue]

Btw, has anybody answered the original questions asked at the top of the thread? you all should be ashamed of yourselves. :o
Timkona answered 'em! No need repeat! :D

[lavagal]

Catch waves or eat waves? :p :D

oh so we've surfed together, huh? it's kinda big. I'll probably be eating some waves for sure. It's been so long!

[TATTRAT]

Btw, has anybody answered the original questions asked at the top of the thread? you all should be ashamed of yourselves. :o

Timkona answered 'em! No need repeat! :D




sooooooo, that's it then http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/sarcasm.gif? Was really hoping for a little more insight...

[pzarquon]

Do read past threads before posting a new one.

Don't expect everyone to line up to help when you do.

You've not reached the visitors' bureau. You've reached an informal hub of friendly, silly, and crazy people who just happen to love Hawaii. I suppose you'd get a straight answer out of a tourism official, but it wouldn't be an honest one.

C'mon, man. You've basically asked, "Tell me everything I need to know about moving to Oahu!" Admittedly you didn't get much of an answer, but to expect that request to be fulfilled in a satisfactory way was pretty ridiculous, too. I'm pretty sure if you'd asked to know everything about anything just about anywhere out of the blue, your responses would be just as substantive.

There are dozens of existing threads (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61) with reasonable tips (and dozens more with similar silliness, to be sure)... you can read through those first. If you have any specific questions, I for one promise to actually try to answer them.

[TATTRAT]

I realize I haven't reached a visitors bureau, I saw the board as a friendly, knowledgeable resource, and say the sense of comradely after lurking for a week, and though it would be a great resource to get some info. I did use the search button first. Sorry if it seems that I was asking for everything, as I was not, just looking for useful insight...and as you said, HONEST insight. I prefer to be a traveler, not a tourist, and appreciate honest local input.

Just trying to be a respectful haole, preparing to move to new island.

thanks for the input.

[stevo75]

I was looking for a little more out of the original question myself but found myself a little disappointed. I am part of a few other forums and we call this hijacking. I know I am a newby in this forum and have already gained some useful knowledge from several members and am very thankful but the answers to tattrats questions seem comical to those who have been longtime members. I'm with tattrat on this, if it seemed like a rediculous questions why not guide him/her from the beginning to some other helpful threads. I saw over 30 responses in this thread and was anxious to see what the folks had to say but in reality there was nothing really useful for me also. Aloha and I don't mean any disrespect!

[Leo Lakio]

Wow. I'm having a hard time keeping track of all the new moderators for the forum these days - can I get an updated list? :p

[Keanu]

Do's…

1) Familiarize yourself with the history of these islands.

2) Respect the differences between Hawaii and the other states on the Conus.

3) Take your shoes off when entering a local family's home.

4) Let people merge into traffic while driving.

5) Wave or acknowledge when somebody lets you merge in front of them

6) Learn to be able to make a distinction between all the different ethnicities that live here. There is a lot of ethnic pride in Hawaii and people may get pissed off if you mistake them for another race... say like calling a Samoan person, Tongan.

7) Attempt to pickup Japanese women (Japanese Nationals) in Waikiki.

Do Not…

1) Bring any Conus biases, perspectives, logic (if you have any) here with you. Immerse yourself in the spirit of Hawaii and you'll find much happiness here.

2) Use your horn unless you absolutely have to.

3) Complain if things are different here than they are back home.

4) Question programs that benefit Native Hawaiians without realizing why they are in place.

5) Try to converse with locals in pidgin unless the language comes naturally.

6) Attempt to enter Hawaiian waters if you can't swim.

[TATTRAT]

Thanks, Keanu!

I have been doing a LOT of research on the islands, and am VERY excited to experience the Islands cultures.

The main reason I started this thread was for open, and honest input from Natives/Locals of Hawaii, and I appreciate your response.

[Lei K]

Off topic...

TATTRAT, can I ask some Bermuda questions pwwwweasssssssse? :D

Have you seen Catherine Zeta-Jones in real life and is she as amazingly perfect looking in person? LOL.

Also, is it true that there are a lot of Portuguese people in Bermuda? I have heard that before.

[Leo Lakio]

Ah, if it were only as easy as following a list of "rules" to fit in. There's a town in Quebec that is presently taking a lot of heat for coming up with just such a (somewhat facetious) list, aimed primarily at an influx of new residents coming from Islamic cultural backgrounds.

Yet, people seem to think residents of Hawai`i can pull out a wallet-card of behaviors that will make the non-resident "fit right in." Keanu's offered up some good suggestions, but you know what? A valuable part of the human experience comes from learning things the hard way - by making mistakes, by screwing up, by apologizing and laughing it off with the new community that you are hoping to be welcomed by, and by trying again. You can't fake your way past that.

Anyone entering unfamiliar surroundings paralyzed by the fear of making a faux pas or two is going to sweat the wrong stuff. Being true to who you are, the product of your life to date, is valuable. Enter a new environment and adapt. But don't get too hung up on the social rules.


(And remember, anyone who tells you any "dos & don'ts" is going to hand you something enrobed in their own biases - just like this very posting.;) )

[Keanu]

Ah, if it were only as easy as following a list of "rules" to fit in. There's a town in Quebec that is presently taking a lot of heat for coming up with just such a (somewhat facetious) list, aimed primarily at an influx of new residents coming from Islamic cultural backgrounds.

Yet, people seem to think residents of Hawai`i can pull out a wallet-card of behaviors that will make the non-resident "fit right in." Keanu's offered up some good suggestions, but you know what? A valuable part of the human experience comes from learning things the hard way - by making mistakes, by screwing up, by apologizing and laughing it off with the new community that you are hoping to be welcomed by, and by trying again. You can't fake your way past that.

Anyone entering unfamiliar surroundings paralyzed by the fear of making a faux pas or two is going to sweat the wrong stuff. Being true to who you are, the product of your life to date, is valuable. Enter a new environment and adapt. But don't get too hung up on the social rules.


(And remember, anyone who tells you any "dos & don'ts" is going to hand you something enrobed in their own biases - just like this very posting.;) )

You make a very good point Leo and I would tend to agree but a little advice can't hurt. :)

[Leo Lakio]

You make a very good point Leo and I would tend to agree but a little advice can't hurt. :)True. It's all a balancing act, and the center of gravity is always adjustable.

(It's starting to pheel like a Philosophical Phriday.)

[Hellbent]

Do Not…

2) Use your horn unless you absolutely have to.


Im not sure I agree with this one. Do you mean dont drive around like a tard honking at trees, bees, and grass or try not to honk ever? It seems to me that alot of people need to have their license revoked. Some tard was driving up Liliha, taking up both lanes and talking on his cell phone... HONK
In fact I wish our cars were made like bumper cars so I could 'nudge' ppl.... hehe

[TATTRAT]

Anyone entering unfamiliar surroundings paralyzed by the fear of making a faux pas or two is going to sweat the wrong stuff. Being true to who you are, the product of your life to date, is valuable. Enter a new environment and adapt. But don't get too hung up on the social rules.

(And remember, anyone who tells you any "dos & don'ts" is going to hand you something enrobed in their own biases - just like this very posting.;) )

Leo Lakio, I hear you, and understand 100% of what you are saying, thank you. I am not too worried about faux pas, as I am true to myself, and live by the golden rule, just feeling out the ground rules.

Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.

Off topic...

TATTRAT, can I ask some Bermuda questions pwwwweasssssssse? :D

Have you seen Catherine Zeta-Jones in real life and is she as amazingly perfect looking in person? LOL.

Also, is it true that there are a lot of Portuguese people in Bermuda? I have heard that before.

Ask away! Lol, I have never seen Catherine in person, though I have seen Micheal Douglas's house on a few occasions, he is one of the few well known native Bermudians in Hollywood. Ross Perot managed to buy a house in Tucker town, the guy that invented Velcro lived there, and also the Author of The Wizard of Oz, owned a small Island in the Royal harbor.

As for the Portuguese, yes there are. Bermuda was founded, but not settled, originally by Juan De Bermudez, and after that, both the Spanish and Portuguese used the island as a way station for provisions an restocking for ships on journey through the Atlantic, to the Caribbean.

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda) is a link that has the history of BDA, as well as some nice pics.

The Portuguese influence is heavy on a majority of the fishing communities, and the food is stellar!

[pzarquon]

All right, Keanu! That was a great start. It occurs to me that our "You Might Be a Local If..." type threads would probably be good to review, too... provided the intent is to understand, and not pretend to be a local.

Do be up front that you're new and learning your way around, and most people will adjust their expectations accordingly. Don't try to pick up pidgin and Hawaiian and throw it around for authenticity. We can tell you're faking it.

Do learn to call them "aloha shirts," not "Hawaiian shirts."

Do not throw around the phrase "back in the states." Hawaii residents have a love-hate relationship in this department. On one hand, some may resent that we're a U.S. state. On the other, we hate it when people forget that we are.

Do realize that there are jerks, asshats and racists everywhere, even in paradise. Don't let it color your view of all the great people that call Hawaii home.

Do take your time. While there are harried, impatient, Type A corporate types here, you're more often than not going to find people chronically late for meetings, and find meetings run long because of random talkstory. The cashier may hold up your grocery trip because she's catching up with auntie, and people will stop in the middle of a lane or road for a spontaneous family reunion. People will yield the right of way when they don't have to, and trust me, it annoys some locals too. But, c'est la vie.

Do learn the differences between what American pop culture sees as Hawaiian culture and cuisine, and what the real thing is. Same goes for Chinese, Korean, Filipino, and the like. Putting pineapple on a pizza does not make it Hawaiian. We love our orange chicken, but we know it ain't authentic Chinese.

Do not jump headfirst into Native Hawaiian and sovereignty issues, no matter how passionately you feel about it or how aligned you may be with various causes. Even locals and Hawaiians disagree amongst themselves about these things, but no matter what side you're on, it often makes us bristle when someone elsedecides to speak up for us... at least not without a lifetime of learning and immersion. Do, however, educate yourself as best you can about these issues. You may eventually develop a solid and well-founded opinion on them, and find a way to contribute... I'd disagree with Keanu on telling you to simply not question Native Hawaiian programs, for example. But on Day 1, there are a lot of other complicated issues you can ponder.

By the by, I'll have to agree with Keanu on the horn thing (but we have a whole other thread for this (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?p=140383)). I can see where the pro-honkers are coming from, but if you're new here, why invite more bad karma than you have to?

Loved the "picking up Japanese Nationals" bit. Some folks see that as a recreational sport. :p

So. Are we doing any better?

[TATTRAT]

Pzarquon, great input, thank you very much!

I loved the Japanese national remark too, though I think the Mrs.TATT might be a little against it.:)

...and yes, much better, thanks all!

[Leo Lakio]

TATT - you would be bringing culinary expertise to the Islands, would you not? That's something right there that could serve you well as an introduction to a lot of circles, as food is a major part of life in Hawai`i - the mixed-plate of ethnic cuisine is unbelievable, and open to some creative cross-pollenation.

Just invite the members of HT to a feast after you settle in, and watch the doors open!

[Miulang]

One more: not everyone born and/or living in Hawai'i is a Hawaiian just because the State is called Hawai'i. The only Hawaiians are those of kanaka maoli (Native Hawaiian) lineage. Everyone else who was born in Hawai'i is called a kama'aina or local. Newcomers are called malihini.

Do: make local friends asap. They will be invaluable in telling you where it's safe and where it's not safe to be.

Miulang

[Leo Lakio]

Newcomers are called malihini.And visitors, guests.

Learning how to pronounce Hawaiian words is easier than you might think, too - at least to a level where people will understand what you are saying, and vice versa. Five vowels, eight consonants, one additional diacritical mark. Some basic rules and guidlines to learn, and you'll have a lot of "a-HA" moments.

[TATTRAT]

Thanks, Leo Lakio. Food is universal, that is why I love doing what I do. That is one of the things I am most looking forward too actually. The closest I have had to Pacific cuisine was when I was staying in Vancouver, BC. I really enjoyed the new food experiences, and I KNOW Hawaii will not disappoint.

As soon as we get settled in, I would love to do a house warming party or something. I'll take care of the food!

Please, DO tell me some places to check out...please Don't tell me the corporate franchise places, lol.

[Leo Lakio]

Please, DO tell me some places to check out...please Don't tell me the corporate franchise places, lol.Start exploring HT's Kaukau Korner (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7) - you'll go wild!

[TATTRAT]

One more: not everyone born and/or living in Hawai'i is a Hawaiian just because the State is called Hawai'i. The only Hawaiians are those of kanaka maoli (Native Hawaiian) lineage. Everyone else who was born in Hawai'i is called a kama'aina or local. Newcomers are called malihini.

Do: make local friends asap. They will be invaluable in telling you where it's safe and where it's not safe to be.

Miulang

Ahhh, thanks, very interesting.

I hope to make some friends quickly as well. One good thing is I have a childhood friend that lives in Honolulu, not far from where I will be, so I will know at least one person who can help me out.

And visitors, guests.

Learning how to pronounce Hawaiian words is easier than you might think, too - at least to a level where people will understand what you are saying, and vice versa. Five vowels, eight consonants, one additional diacritical mark. Some basic rules and guidlines to learn, and you'll have a lot of "a-HA" moments.

I must admit, reading the words is a little intimidating, but I will take your word for it.

thank you both!

[TATTRAT]

Start exploring HT's Kaukau Korner (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7) - you'll go wild!

Awesome! thanks again!

[Keanu]

Please, DO tell me some places to check out...please Don't tell me the corporate franchise places, lol.


I've never been there before but I hear Hula's on Kapahulu Avenue is a swinging joint. If you're looking for good food and good fun, Hula's is the place to be.

[Leo Lakio]

Keanu! Bad boy! There's a "Mrs. TATT," remember? I suspect he's not looking for something that ... flamboyant.:eek:

[TATTRAT]

I've never been there before but I hear Hula's on Kapahulu Avenue is a swinging joint. If you're looking for good food and good fun, Hula's is the place to be.


My lady and I are certainly not opposed to some good drink specials, and shakin' bones for the evening, every now and then. I just get "crowded" out sometimes, and look for something a little more laid back and mellow.

Thanks all for the info!

[tutusue]

[...]Please, DO tell me some places to check out...please Don't tell me the corporate franchise places, lol.
La Mariana Sailing Club (http://www.critiki.com/cgi-bin/pictures.cgi?loc_id=74) off of Sand Island Access Rd. for sunset drinks. It's one of a kind!

Keo's Thai Cuisine (http://www.keosthaicuisine.com/) in Waikiki is another one of my favorites. A feast for the eyes...a party in the mouth!

Ok...ok...I'll go back to bed now! :D

[TATTRAT]

Keo's sounds right on point, and reasonable prices, even by mainland standards. Not to mention , I'm a sucker for Thai food:)

I will be sure to check out LaMarina as well. I love nostalgic places, and it seems to exudes that old time Polynesian feel.

Thanks for the ideas, tutusue!

[stevo75]

Thanks to all this is more like it! Never knew about not using the term states. I did here mainland a lot during my last stay. :D

[TATTRAT]

Well the day has come, a little late, but regardless, we leave tomorrow @ 9am, arriving on Oahu around 4:30 PM.

Thanks all for the heads up and info. I hope I have the chance to meet a few of you, some I know I will, but thanks again and see ya soon!

[tutusue]

Well the day has come, a little late, but regardless, we leave tomorrow @ 9am, arriving on Oahu around 4:30 PM.[...]
Oh, wow! Your plans changed once again!!! Hmmm...looks like you don't have a non-stop flight. It'll be a long day but, regardless, the end result will be wonderful. E komo mai!

[Cindy Blankenship]

Moving to Oahu, I would like to know some insiders perspectives of do's and dont's...
Humility is crucial in a new environment, drive with courtesy, don't stare, shop outside the cities,don't be a loud mouth, be respectful in ALL aspects...

Don't walk around with egg on your face :D
Sorry I couldn't resist - those are two over easy's on your
face in your avatar? :p

From what you wrote, I'd say you'll have no problem - except do shop in the city if it's Costco, or in my case on Hilo side of B.I., Wal-Mart lol

One more: If you're invited into someone's home, take your shoes off before entering. We don't wear our shoes in our homes here...well most don't. Wearing slippers (flip flops) and sandals makes this easy to do. There was a story in one of the Oahu papers a while back about the poor crop of mangos during a particular mango season. Well some dumb guy entered his neighbor's home (who apparently he wasn't acquainted with yet) and was waiting in the dining room when she came in to ask her if she had any mangos to spare. From what I gather from the quotes in the story, she wasn't pleased that this guy just let himself into her home, but she was even more upset that he was wearing his shoes in her house. It's a nice, clean custom really.

The tip about slowing down in the intersection when you have the green light...that was one of the first things I fell in love with here - the aloha :)


Cindy

[Cindy Blankenship]

Did I just say to shop at Wal-Mart? :eek: I've been on Hilo side too long. Wal-Mart's evil.

Cindy

[tutusue]

Tatt and Mrs. Tatt arrived a couple of days ago and should be firmly ensconced 3 floors below me...with their shoes off. :D

Hey...Tatt. Didya just hear the racket in the trash chute? That was my big bag 'o trash dropping 19 floors!!! :eek:

[TATTRAT]

Thanks for the tips, Cindy! I found foodland and costco today, I think I will be coo with that for now:D

tutu, Get this, I am now in the OTHER tower! we only spent one night in 1503, long story I will tell you over some grinds. We are now in 3516, and we could NOT be happier, it is everything we were looking forward to and then some! It says "city view" but we have a GREAT view of Waikiki and diamond head, what a view to wake up to everyday.

So far, I have motored from Camp Smith, out to Hawaii Kai and a little past Hanauma Bay but it was closed today:(. Already very comfortable navigating around town and have a trip North planed for the weekend.

[tutusue]

[...]tutu, Get this, I am now in the OTHER tower! we only spent one night in 1503, long story I will tell you over some grinds. We are now in 3516,[...]
Can't wait to hear the story!

[Cindy Blankenship]

Tatt and Mrs. Tatt arrived a couple of days ago and should be firmly ensconced 3 floors below me...with their shoes off. :D

Hey...Tatt. Didya just hear the racket in the trash chute? That was my big bag 'o trash dropping 19 floors!!! :eek:

Lol. :D Makes me miss city living.

cindy

[Cindy Blankenship]

I am now in the OTHER tower! we only spent one night in 1503, long story I will tell you over some grinds.

Can we get the short version - or should we start guessing :p
BTW, I just noticed your signature. Haven't laughed out loud like that in a long time. Thanks!

Cindy

[DannyWilliams]

Personal peeve when I hear the "A" sound in Honolulu when pronounced :mad:

There is no "A" in HONOLULU! :confused:

[ItsGoTime!]

Personal peeve when I hear the "A" sound in Honolulu when pronounced :mad:

There is no "A" in HONOLULU! :confused:
I don't get it. "HAN-oh-loo-loo"? Or is it "Hon-AH-loo-loo"?

[DannyWilliams]

I don't get it. "HAN-oh-loo-loo"? Or is it "Hon-AH-loo-loo"?


*SMACK*


It's


Ho-No-Lu-Lu


I cringe when I hear the "A" sound when pronounced

[Leo Lakio]

I don't get it. "HAN-oh-loo-loo"? Or is it "Hon-AH-loo-loo"?He doesn't like "hah-nah-lew-lew." Probably wouldn't want to travel on the famed "Road to Hannah," either. :p

We've covered this a number of times, DW. If you're not from some place, you won't know all the pronunciations - it's not just Hawai`i. You ever been to either Sequim or Puyallup in Washington State?

[Pomai]

If you're not from some place, you won't know all the pronunciations - it's not just Hawai`i. You ever been to either Sequim or Puyallup in Washington State?These are obviously native Indian names. I have no knowledge of the pronunciations here, so let me take a stab at it (without help from Google)...

Sequim - Either Seh'keem, Seh'queem or Seh'kwimm

Puyallup - Poo'yuh-lupp (certainly not "PooYal-luhp"!)

I posted this before, but here again is a true story. Tourists once stopped my girlfriend and friends in Maui and asked how to drive to "Kan'nah'pole'lee".....

a.k.a. Ka'anapali. :D



And how can you dislike driving on the "Like Like" freeway? lol I still hear even some locals pronounce it "Lee'kee-lee'kee". :eek:

Hawaii is still being pronounced "Hah'Y".

[Leo Lakio]

Sequim - Either Seh'keem, Seh'queem or Seh'kwimm
Puyallup - Poo'yuh-lupp (certainly not "PooYal-luhp"!)
Phonetically, they are "Skwim" and "Pyoo-allup," from the S'Klallam and Puyallup Nisqually languages, respectively.

And how many times do you hear locals pronounce the name of that yummy fish appetizer as poh-kee?

[Pomai]

Phonetically, they are "Skwim" and "Pyoo-allup," from the S'Klallam and Puyallup Nisqually languages, respectively.Wow. I was way off! Looks like it's gonna' be tough asking for driving directions in Washington State!

And how many times do you hear locals pronounce the name of that yummy fish appetizer as poh-kee?Locals? About 50/50, say it that way vs. the correct way: "Po'K". <--That is correct, right? :eek: :o

Haoles always pronounce my name "Poo'My". lol

[sophielynette]

And this is why I just carry around a piece of paper with all the words I can't pronounce. It's less embarassing to just point.

In my defense I have an Ohio accent. Which I can't explain at all except that people say I have an Ohio accent.

[TATTRAT]

And as far as pronunciations go, a BIG Mahalo to Gregg! Your paper work you sent me months ago really got me warmed up!

I have really enjoyed meeting people and feeling things out. Mrs.TATT and I have already made a habit it seams of pu-pu's and drinks at the Chart House, but looking for more off the beaten path type places.

My first surf/bodyboard session went great. No hassles, made a few regular friends, and look forward to paddling out in the mornings.

Getting around by a scooter that I got has NOT been an issue as of yet. 76cc, nothing major, left my M-Class on the conus, hope to have it mailed out in a week or two and sell the scooter, or keep it for town, and a bike for longer open air trips.

Looking like I will be in final negotiations with work this week, either Alan Wongs Pineapple Room, Arincino Di Mar, Stage, or something new and exciting with Hank(of Hans haute Dogs)...plenty of options.

Thanks again to everyone for all the tips and suggestions, by no means stop offering them, glad to see this still going:D, and always looking for new things to do.

[tutusue]

[...]I have really enjoyed meeting people and feeling things out. Mrs.TATT and I have already made a habit it seams of pu-pu's and drinks at the Charter House, but looking for more off the beaten path type places.[...]
Looking like I will be in final negotiations with work this week, either Alan Wongs Pineapple Room, Arincino Di Mar, Stage, [...]
Thanks again to everyone for all the tips and suggestions, by no means stop offering them, glad to see this still going:D, and always looking for new things to do.
Psssst...Tatt? That's the Chart House!!! You were only one syllable off! Have you been downstairs from the CH...to Harbor Pub? There's a limited view from a limited number of tables...akin to finding a view from a basement! Still, it's a trippy place for breakfast, lunch or dinner, has a bar and seems to cater to the Ala Wai boat harbor crowd. One of the regulars brings his chihuahua who sits on his own bar stool!

Another great drinks w/sunset spot is the Halekulani Hotel (walkable), on the lanai outside House Without a Key (http://www.halekulani.com/dining/house_without_a_key/), complete with a Hawaiian trio and dancer. Not off the beat and path but just plain, ol' lovely.

Jeez...you could walk to the Pineapple Room! Stage is a cool restaurant; very trendy. I've not heard of Arincino Di Mar. Where's that?

Oh...and for a free activity...walk on over to the Hilton Hawaiian Village's Tropics show room for the live taping (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showpost.php?p=164658&postcount=177) of Andy Bumatai's tv show (http://www.ntphawaii.com/). They have an open bar! If you do that after mid October I'd love to join you!

[TATTRAT]

Whoops, thanks tutusue...and yes, I know the harbor pub, Jeff, Denver and I are well acquainted by now,lol. Actually I am leaving right now for Chart house.

Thanks for the tips again. I will check out those places. We were also told about Hale Koa for drinks on the cheap by some people at SO's work, might give that a shot too.

And do you mean open bar, like open air, or free drinks open bar? Either way sounds like a plan!

[LikaNui]

I enjoy Harbor Pub for their excellent sandwiches and surprisingly good pizza. But be advised that as the evening wears on the crowd there can get... boisterous. Not the best place to take a date late in the evening. [/hint] :(
But for breakfast, lunch or an early dinner, heck yes!
:)

Edit:
I forgot to add that on Saturday nights you can walk over to the Hilton Hawaiian Village and catch Olomana, with Jerry Santos and Haunani Apoliona!!! Da bestest of the bestest, and free!

[tutusue]

Whoops, thanks tutusue...and yes, I know the harbor pub, Jeff, Denver and I are well acquainted by now,lol. Actually I am leaving right now for Chart house.

Thanks for the tips again. I will check out those places. We were also told about Hale Koa for drinks on the cheap by some people at SO's work, might give that a shot too.

And do you mean open bar, like open air, or free drinks open bar? Either way sounds like a plan!
I'm running on way too little sleep. Andy's show has drink service! And, the drinks aren't cheap!!! Still, there's a lot of entertainment so a drink or 2 is a small price to pay.

Yep...Hale Koa is a great place. I go there quite often with my retired military friends.

Seems you're far more acquainted with the Harbor Pub than I am!!! Not a bad neighborhood, huh, Tatt?! ;)

[Leo Lakio]

And as far as pronunciations go, a BIG Mahalo to Gregg! Your paper work you sent me months ago really got me warmed up!Pfft. Tweren't nothing. Just an expansion on what I teach our local `ukulele group (so they will be willing to learn Hawaiian songs, and not be frightened away by another language.) Nice to know it was of some help to you.

I just read this thread to the AF - her overall response was "EXCELLENT!"

TATT - this thread is a great example that we should remember, for all the folks who post here about "what does it take to move to Hawai`i." It sounds like you did the research and brought the right attitude - which is what the kama`aina on HT always recommend. Thanks for representing well the mainlanders who are making the effort to do it right.

[turtlegirl]

Hi all!

I bumped this thread up to the top because I think it will be helpful for the family from Kansas and their oldest boy. Enjoy!

[TATTRAT]

WOW! I gotta admit, I get a little choked up re reading all this...to think, that time has come and gone.

I want to say, I miss the Hawai'i EVERYDAY! Though I am a proud Bermudian, Hawai'i holds a very special place in my head and heart. I had NOTHING BUT A GREAT EXPERIENCE! I WILL be back, you can count on that...hopefully sooner then later.

Thanks again to all of those that helped along the way, and for all this great advice. I hope others can use this as a resource too.

Many Mahalos to the HT kama'aina!