Scrapping the Internet

[Miulang]

Some technology experts believe that the current Internet infrastructure (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18095186/)can never be made secure or stable because of the way it evolved. The solution? scrap the current Internet infrastructure and build a new one!

Miulang

[adrian]

bring out internet2 already!

[mel]

Go back to old fashioned dial-up BBS's....

[Leo Lakio]

...pen and paper, I say!:D And "books," anybody remember those?

[i-hungry]

Scrapping the current Internet? Sounds more like improving a few parts of it. How can they make the rest of the world do the same?

[tutusue]

Oh man, 400 sq. ft. is just too small to share space with encyclopedias, dictionaries, file cabinets, cookbooks, hard copy newspapers, catalogues and...people! :D

[DaFerret]

bring out internet2 already!
Don't you mean Internt 2.0? XD

[Menehune Man]

Better bring out the BETA version of INTNT2.0 before scrapping anything!
You're scaring me... I feel withdrawals already!!! :eek:

[WindwardOahuRN]

Better bring out the BETA version of INTNT2.0 before scrapping anything!
You're scaring me... I feel withdrawals already!!! :eek:

My computer crashed on Saturday morning. Just got it back a little while ago, with some major glitches intact. It'll take a while to get him back in shape....:::pat pat pat:::

I missed the sorry bugger.

With all his faults I still love him.

I have to admit he looks a helluva lot better under the influence of adult beverages, though. :D

I think we need counseling.

[Hellbent]

I call BS
If they rebuilt the internet and controlled the nodes, they could apply fees like tolls to us users. I think theyre trying to make money off the internet and this is how.
At its current state (for those of you who dont know how the intarweb works) its a sprawling web of computers interconnected and when you try to go to a website, it tries to go from your pc to the destination via the shortest route, after navigating thru your ISP's internal structure.
For example, if you try to access www.hawaiithreads.com, there might be 5 'hops'
EG:
Your PC>RR Mililani>RR Texas>some router node>Comcast node>lava net host
I'm not at home so I cant post the exact hops, but you get the idea. Now if they rebuilt it to be more 'secure' then why couldnt they toll you (micropayment) or no access without prepaid 'pass'?

[Cameron]

Your PC>RR Mililani>RR Texas>some router node>Comcast node>lava net host
I'm not at home so I cant post the exact hops, but you get the idea.

These are the exact hops, for those of you that are interested. From byuh at least. 20 Hops!
kazaru@kazaru-laptop:~$ traceroute hawaiithreads.com
traceroute to hawaiithreads.com (66.33.196.175), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ip-10-11-246-6.byuh.edu (10.11.246.6) 1.309 ms 1.360 ms 1.376 ms
2 10.11.224.17 (10.11.224.17) 1.198 ms 1.282 ms 1.258 ms
3 10.0.224.30 (10.0.224.30) 1.469 ms 1.543 ms 1.367 ms
4 ip-216-228-251-225.byuh.edu (216.228.251.225) 1.960 ms 2.851 ms 1.758 ms
5 ip-216-228-251-219.byuh.edu (216.228.251.219) 22.403 ms 2.468 ms 2.493 ms
6 ip-216-228-251-218.byuh.edu (216.228.251.218) 2.293 ms 1.889 ms 1.999 ms
7 66-162-246-153.static.twtelecom.net (66.162.246.153) 9.735 ms 3.920 ms 4.131 ms
8 core-01-ge-3-1-0-510.hnll.twtelecom.net (216.136.8.76) 24.264 ms 3.680 ms 3.359 ms
9 66.192.250.6 (66.192.250.6) 56.335 ms 57.571 ms 59.828 ms
10 peer-02-so-0-0-0-0.palo.twtelecom.net (64.129.248.19) 55.529 ms 55.535 ms 55.311 ms
11 paix-0.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (198.32.175.14) 67.040 ms 63.608 ms 64.462 ms
12 xe-0-2-0.r20.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.230) 77.371 ms 68.004 ms 60.193 ms
13 ae-1.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.119) 68.409 ms 59.881 ms 68.601 ms
14 as-0.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.97) 66.187 ms 67.526 ms 64.405 ms
15 xe-2-1.r01.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.234) 72.442 ms 73.914 ms 65.806 ms
16 xe-1-2.r00.lsanca17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.129) 73.477 ms 67.015 ms 64.575 ms
17 xe-1-3.r00.lsanca17.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (206.183.201.162) 64.709 ms 64.701 ms 64.182 ms
18 border1.po2-bbnet2.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.95) 67.065 ms 68.830 ms 72.801 ms
19 newdream-1.border1.ext1a.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.78) 65.546 ms 76.909 ms 86.565 ms
20 basic-cid.zebes.dreamhost.com (66.33.196.175) 67.857 ms 69.113 ms 65.289 ms