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alohabear
April 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I was reading this article (http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/hawaiiansovereignty/localpride.html) about how people in Hawaii have local pride and how it's different than anywhere else.In any case it seems that "local pride" is perceived to belong to "locals" whose skin is not white or who are Portuguese. White professionals and managers usually themselves feel proud to be part of Hawai'i when "local people" get national recognition. Whites eagerly support and enthusiastically applaud the achievements of "local people." But there seems to be something of a disconnect in the opposite direction. Whites born and raised in Hawai'i generally do not get the same level of enthusiasm or "local pride" from "local people" for high-visibility achievement. Perhaps that's because whites are expected to do well both in Hawai'i and in the world outside Hawai'i, so there's nothing special to cheer about. But more likely the racial difference in local pride for outside accomplishment is because "local people" who do well outside Hawai'i are seen as overcoming obstacles, exceeding expectations, and proving to "local" people that there's no need to feel shame in being local and coming from a heritage of foreign "losers" a few generations back. an interesting read....maybe that's why we have so many different opinions on this HT Ohana.....wot u tink?:D

Keanu
April 16th, 2007, 08:18 PM
If I knew this link would lead me to Ken Conklin's toliet bowl, I would have never wasted my time clicking on it. Conklin is about as credible as Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf (Baghdad Bob) was during the initial American invasion of Iraq. There is nothing interesting about Conklin or his asinine views.

WindwardOahuRN
April 16th, 2007, 08:19 PM
If I knew this link would lead me to Ken Conklin's toliet bowl, I would have never wasted my time clicking on it. Conklin is about as credible as Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf (Baghdad Bob) was during the initial American invasion of Iraq. There is nothing interesting about Conklin or his asinine views.

You beat me to it, Keanu. I saw the author and clicked it off.

timkona
April 17th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Conklin can be pretty judgemental. But that article had a refreshing tone of optimism throughout.

Or maybe I will just judge the book by the cover (author in this case)

Keanu
April 17th, 2007, 09:20 AM
Conklin can be pretty judgemental. But that article had a refreshing tone of optimism throughout.

Or maybe I will just judge the book by the cover (author in this case)


"Refreshing" and "Conklin" aren't two words that I'd put together in the same sentence, unless I was a like-minded racist.