Can't they just leave us alone?

[Ms_Aloha_Nui]

Saw this in today's Advertiser:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/May/22/br/br5472369018.html

Can't they just leave the Hawaiians alone???????

[Leo Lakio]

...the settlement in the Doe case strengthens the school's position since the 9th Circuit's ruling is now the law in the 11 western states and territories that make up the 9th Circuit.That's the part that intrigues me the most - how an attorney will structure their case in order to get beyond this ruling.
Just curious:Can't they just leave the Hawaiians alone???????Are you Hawaiian? Since you said "us" in the thread title, the implication is there, so I'd like a clarification, if you don't mind my asking. (No, I have no hidden agenda behind the question - not planning to attack you, one way or the other, just wanting to know.)

[Hi Tone]

Saw this in today's Advertiser:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/May/22/br/br5472369018.html

Can't they just leave the Hawaiians alone???????

Battles maybe won, but the war is never over.

[Ms_Aloha_Nui]

Thanks for asking...I am definitely HAWAIIAN! One side is Keaunui, other side is Ha'o.

[Mililani]

Well, that article was upsetting.

Of course, whenever a case is "settled" rather than played out will leave the playing field wide open. But, to be honest, I had a feeling this was going to happen. It's all about greed. KSBE has the money and greedy people want it. It has nothing to do with educating non-hawaiian's in the school. What gets me fired up is that there are so many private schools that non-hawaiian's can enroll in, but they gotta choose this one! Sheesh!! I hope the courts realize what this attorney, et al's true goal is.

OK, I feel better now, thank you for listening (reading).. :D

[timkona]

Are you ready for a shocker? I probably should not say this.........;)

But y'all know me better than that. So here goes.

It is not special to be Hawaiian. Or African. Or Caucasian. Not even if you are from the Caucuses Mountains DIRECTLY up in the Ukraine, or wherever the hell. One's pedigree simply has no bearing whatsoever upon their ability to be a contributing, particapatory, loving member of any society.

It is the beliefs and the cultures that change and mix over time, in a never ending 'lava-lamp' of life. My daughter dances Hula. More Hawaiian kids play soccer than ukulele. All the cultures are great. None is better, or worse, by nature, than any other. It is the variety, and the change/mix, that is the wonderful part.

The point is that when we choose pedigree or lineage, with an eye toward exclusivity based upon sameness, as a decision making criteria within our cosmopolitan world, then we trod down Hitler's slippery slope.

You could give admissions to KS to children who score well on tests, AND who come from poor, homeless, or other 'barely' making it families. It may turn out that many of them are Hawaiian, by circumstance. After all, should not the 'well-to-do' send their children, regardless of race, to school on their own nickel, rather than the benevolent nickel of a foundation as epic as KSBE. And should not the brightest amongst the groveling masses be afforded the magical opportunity of such a fine education based upon merit, notwithstanding cost. Add a little Jesus, and a generous dose of Hula, and Voila!

(The whole damned world needs a little more HulaJesus. :confused: )

Don't get me wrong. I love everything about Hawaii, Hawaiians, Hula, Lau-Lau, Mauna, Pono, and Aloha. But it's all real similar to my love of black eyed peas, okra, fried chicken, grits, and rhythm & blues. I celebrate St.Patricks and get just as 'happy' on Chinese New Years. I'm loving NFL Football AND the Olympics. With Dolmas. And Ouzo. And Norwegian Steam Baths. And the foundations of British Common Law. And gunpowder, sushi, Buddha, race cars, Running with the Bulls. And Classic Latin. Etcetera, Et al, ad infinitum, bede-bede-bede-badatsallfolks.

Blacks got the shaft in slavery. Jews got the shaft in WWII. History is rife with examples of why pedigree is a terrible way to separate one species. Nobody is a purebreed in the HUMAN species.

One linneage. One planet. All humanity. :)

Aloha

Tim

[anapuni808]

Tim - I probably shouldn't ask this, BUT.................

You didn't mention celebrating Cinco de Mayo - do you have something against Mexicans?

[1stwahine]

Or A d o b o?:p

HAHAHAHAHA

Juss joking.

Auntie Lynn

[acousticlady]

What we really need is for some aliens from a distant planet to come to Earth and invade us. Then we'll all be humans! :cool:

[TATTRAT]

What we really need is for some aliens from a distant planet to come to Earth and invade us. Then we'll all be humans! :cool:

agreed 100%

[Lei K]

Tim, please stop comparing Hawaiians to Hitler. Hawaiians aren't fond of blood quantum rules (blah) and racial purity. Genealogy and educating the future generations of Hawaiians about Hawaiian ways of life, history, language and such is not wrong or nazi like in any way. Hawaiians have an ancient culture that should change why? Because times are a changing? Please.

You don't come from a culture where genealogy/ancestors are so important, I understand. That is okay, and it makes you who you are and that is wonderful. Why do you think every culture and their people should blend into this new generic mold of sameness? Yes, we are all human, but we also have our differences and customs which makes being human that much more beautiful. A world where everyone has the same exact beliefs and lives the same exact way is boring.

Now I agree that KS should let in children who NEED it but your "Hawaiians are like Hilter" stuff has got to stop. For real. Mahalo.

[Lei K]

Thanks for asking...I am definitely HAWAIIAN! One side is Keaunui, other side is Ha'o.

Hale'iwa in da hale, eh cuz? :D

[Ms_Aloha_Nui]

DEFINITELY! Hawaiians in da hale.....especially the ones from Haleiwa!

[Ms_Aloha_Nui]

My 9 year old nephew and I watched the news last night. After seeing the story on that attorney and his quest for 10-20 people who wanted to become his clients to sue KSBE, Koa asked me what all this 'stuff' about Kamehameha really is....so In a nutshell......I tried to explain to him that a Will is a written document that someone makes telling everyone what they want to do with their 'belongings'....I tried to find the simplest, most un-complicated way to explain this to him....After I told him that he asked me if he made a Will could he tell us that he wanted his Hot Wheel cars to go to a hospital play room so that they kids in the hospital could have them to play with? I told him that is exactly what a Will is supposed to do. (My son was in the hospital last year and Koa visited him there and saw that there weren't alot of 'boy' toys.) So he wanted to know if Pauahi made a Will telling everyone what to do with her 'belongings' why are so many people trying to do something else and not doing what her Will says.....I didn't have an answer for him.....

[Leo Lakio]

Thanks for asking...I am definitely HAWAIIAN! One side is Keaunui, other side is Ha'o.Mahalo, I appreciate your answering (when you had every right not to.)

[LikaNui]

Tim, please stop comparing Hawaiians to Hitler. (...) Genealogy and educating the future generations of Hawaiians about Hawaiian ways of life, history, language and such is not wrong or nazi like in any way. (...) Now I agree that KS should let in children who NEED it but your "Hawaiians are like Hilter" stuff has got to stop. I'm curious. I re-read Tim's post several times, and the only Hitler-ish mention he made was "Jews got the shaft in WWII." For the life of me I can't figure out how anyone can twist that into your comment that he's "comparing Hawaiians to Hitler."
Not taking any sides here. I'm just curious what the explanation might be, or if he made that claim in some other thread that you could refer us to, or else why his simple comment was so grossly twisted.

:confused:

[Lei K]

I'm curious. I re-read Tim's post several times, and the only Hitler-ish mention he made was "Jews got the shaft in WWII." For the life of me I can't figure out how anyone can twist that into your comment that he's "comparing Hawaiians to Hitler."
Not taking any sides here. I'm just curious what the explanation might be, or if he made that claim in some other thread that you could refer us to, or else why his simple comment was so grossly twisted.

:confused:


It's not just this post, eh, too much to dig up. He accuses Hawaiians of being racially exclusive a lot and makes comparisons to Hitler's ideals on racial exclusivity/purity.

It's this part of his post that got my mind thinking of his past posts...

"The point is that when we choose pedigree or lineage, with an eye toward exclusivity based upon sameness, as a decision making criteria within our cosmopolitan world, then we trod down Hitler's slippery slope."

I feel that his statement above is towards KS and Hawaiian preference. I don't think Hitler and Hawaiians have anything in common. Hawaiians (on the most part) are mixed racially and far from being racial purists or exclusive when it comes to who we love/marry/make keiki with/share our culture with.

Kala mai in advance if I'm wrong for thinking that's where Tim was going with that comment.

[TuNnL]

...the only Hitler-ish mention he made was "Jews got the shaft in WWII." For the life of me I can't figure out how anyone can twist that into your comment that he's "comparing Hawaiians to Hitler."
I think LeiKaina was also putting the comment you quoted in the context that Tim preceded it with:
When we choose pedigree or lineage, with an eye toward exclusivity based upon sameness, as a decision making criteria within our cosmopolitan world, then we trod down Hitler's slippery slope.By this, it appears Tim is comparing KSBE’s admission policy to Hitler’s.

And I agree that it was very pilau of him to do so. :(

[Lei K]

I think LeiKaina was also putting the comment you quoted in the context that Tim preceded it with...

Exactly my mana'o, akamai! *hugs*

Glad you got what I was getting at.

[Ms_Aloha_Nui]

Thank you, Lei...this one is so close to my heart - as it is to many others....I prefer sometimes not to respond for fear that my words will come out wrong.....mahalo for your words.....

[Lei K]

I prefer sometimes not to respond for fear that my words will come out wrong.....mahalo for your words.....

I relate. What I type/how it comes across and my mana'o sometimes don't match. :D

[LikaNui]

It's this part of his post that got my mind thinking of his past posts... "The point is that when we choose pedigree or lineage, with an eye toward exclusivity based upon sameness, as a decision making criteria within our cosmopolitan world, then we trod down Hitler's slippery slope." Ah. I had re-read his post a couple of times but somehow completely missed that one. My bad. Almost 15 straight hours of work yesterday must've caused my brain fut.
Sorry.
Carry on.


:o

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Kamehameha Schools could easily get out of their quagmire.

Set X = % of orphaned and indigent children of all races, y= Hawaiian ethnic children. If Y>X, then her will is answered fully and faithfully. Y>50% numerically defines 'preference' for Hawaiian children, X means orphans and indigents, which is the first category which she addressed in her will. As the will is written anyway, the priority for Hawaiian children is a dependent clause, qualifying the root, which is socio-economic in nature, not ethnic.

As an aside to being fair, Maui families wouldn't be so insulted that their children didn't "qualify" for a seat at the prestigious Kamehameha Schools.

[alohabear]

Thanks for asking...I am definitely HAWAIIAN! One side is Keaunui, other side is Ha'o.Just asking...who is "they"? I would think it would be the media.....if "they" don't report it and no one knows about it then no one would care.

[timkona]

First of all, I love Adobo AND Cinco De Mayo, which is not celebrated in Mexico.

Hawaiians aren't fond of blood quantum rules (blah) and racial purity. Genealogy and educating the future generations of Hawaiians about Hawaiian ways of life, history, language and such is not wrong

Should seem clear to anybody, through KS admissions policy, that racial purity is an issue.

Is it possible to educate future generations of children about Hawaiian life/history/language/culture without racial exclusivity? It is not wrong to teach such things. It is wrong to exclude students based on pedigree.

To perceive one's pedigree with such highminded loyalty, to the point of excluding others, is just about the height of egomania.

I thought Hawaiians frowned upon egomania. And I thought somebody would comment on my HulaJesus thing. :cool:

[greentara]

I thought Hawaiians frowned upon egomania. And I thought somebody would comment on my HulaJesus thing. :cool:

LOL I read your comment before I left for work this am and did not have time to respond. :D With all due respect Mr. Tim to my knowledge was it not the Christian Missionaries that forced Hula to go "underground" for many many years. During the 19th century, the hula almost vanished because the missionaries considered it vile and heathen. You mentioned that your daughter dances Hula, sure hope it's not Kahiko because it IS a ritual dance.

As far as the KS goes it was developed to preserve HI culture and why not make sure that as many Hawaiian children as possible attend the school. After the vicious way the missionaries tried to eliminate all of the ancient traditions of their culture Hawaiians definitely deserve a break and what a boring world this would be with a monotone culture. If people object to the admissions policy why not send your children to another school ~ to pretend that we are all one people is a crock because we are NOT all one people some people have been and will continue to be treated as second class citizens because of their racial background. It’s always very comfortable for the people in power to claim that we are all one. If we are “one” that “one” is a pyramid shape with the power flowing from the top downward. :(

[timkona]

Well that brings up a whole nother issue with the KS and their religious undertones. I guess everything was bad about the missionaries, except their god. :cool:

For grievances of the past, is there any time limit to when present or future entitlement should expire? Or should we just assume that Hawaiians (among others) will never be able to make it on their own? I don't know any Hawaiians who can't make it on their own, so that's why I'm curious. :confused:

So what would be the problem with my daughter learning Hula?

[Leo Lakio]

I guess everything was bad about the missionaries, except their god.You know me, Tim - I'd include that aspect as well (but I wouldn't force my view of that on anyone else.) For grievances of the past, is there any time limit to when present or future entitlement should expire?You have just hit the proverbial nail here. I would answer "yes," though I am not qualified to say when in the circumstances we often discuss here. But yes, we should be working toward a day of real equality in all circumstances, so that there is no longer a need for the equivalent of a golf handicap in socio-economic and educational situations.
I think I understand your opinion, however, that continuing such programs in the present day further delays us from reaching that sought-after equality, rather than bringing it closer.
So what would be the problem with my daughter learning Hula?You won't hear one from me. I hope to have the opportunity to see her dance someday.

[Random]

Can't they just leave the Hawaiians alone???????
Nope. It's in their nature, much like scorpions.

[TuNnL]

I don't know any Hawaiians who can't make it on their own, so that's why I'm curious. :confused:As a so-called expert in real estate, Tim, perhaps you should get out more... and meet new people. Visit the beaches and homeless shelters. Our state prison system. The doctor’s office. Official statistics say you will find a disproportionate amount of native Hawaiians in these places.

[WindwardOahuRN]

As a so-called expert in real estate, Tim, perhaps you should get out more... and meet new people. Visit the beaches and homeless shelters. Our state prison system. The doctor’s office. Official statistics say you will find a disproportionate amount of native Hawaiians in these places.

Perhaps KS should also visit these places. Set up recruiting desks at clinics, Waimanalo Beach, IHS, the visitor area at OCCC.

Sorry, but any system that engages in exclusionary practices based on race, ethnicity, gender, etc, is just plainass wrong in my book.

Pride in one's heritage, ancestry, and history is a wonderful thing. When it morphs into superiority, arrogance, and exclusivity its just ugly. And more than a little bit sad.

[joshuatree]

Perhaps KS should also visit these places. Set up recruiting desks at clinics, Waimanalo Beach, IHS, the visitor area at OCCC.

Sorry, but any system that engages in exclusionary practices based on race, ethnicity, gender, etc, is just plainass wrong in my book.

Pride in one's heritage, ancestry, and history is a wonderful thing. When it morphs into superiority, arrogance, and exclusivity its just ugly. And more than a little bit sad.


Would the issue be more or less resolved if X amount of slots were provided to non-Hawaiians and these applicants had to pay their own tuition? I attended Catholic school when I was younger and they charged my folks a non-Catholic tuition since I wasn't Catholic.

[greentara]

So what would be the problem with my daughter learning Hula?



I was referring to you comment in another thread stating:


I really love the irony involved. KS prays to a Christian God. And dances to honor a Hawaiian Deity (Pele). Idolaters.

Absolutely nothing wrong with you daughter learning Hula. What I was referring to is the above post in another thread...all little ones look totally cute doing Hula and I'm sure your daughter is an adorable little girl. Hula is an excellent way to gain confidence and grace, but to some people it's more than just a dance. ;)

[anapuni808]

First of all, I love Adobo AND Cinco De Mayo, which is not celebrated in Mexico.

Tim, you are not entirely correct in your statement. You really should check your facts before you start spouting off:

The holiday of Cinco De Mayo, The 5th Of May, commemorates the victory of the Mexican militia over the French army at The Battle Of Puebla in 1862. It is primarily a regional holiday celebrated in the Mexican state capital city of Puebla and throughout the state of Puebla, with some limited recognition in other parts of Mexico, and especially in U.S. cities with a significant Mexican population. It is not, as many people think, Mexico's Independence Day, which is actually September 16.
This is from www.mexonline.com.

I normally would not respond to you but it's just so much fun to call you on your BS.

[WindwardOahuRN]

Would the issue be more or less resolved if X amount of slots were provided to non-Hawaiians and these applicants had to pay their own tuition? I attended Catholic school when I was younger and they charged my folks a non-Catholic tuition since I wasn't Catholic.

It might be worth considering. Some Catholic schools still charge non-Catholics higher tuition---others do not. Many Catholic institutions are notoriously charitable, offering tuition aid to the indigent and multi-kid families.

Although the curriculum is geared towards the beliefs of Catholicism and the aim is to enroll Catholics and foster the continuation of the beliefs of the church they are not exclusionary in their admissions policies.

In light of the financial resources of KS, however, it might be looked upon as exceptionally cheesy to charge non-Hawaiians higher tuition.

[joshuatree]

It might be worth considering. Some Catholic schools still charge non-Catholics higher tuition---others do not. Many Catholic institutions are notoriously charitable, offering tuition aid to the indigent and multi-kid families.

Although the curriculum is geared towards the beliefs of Catholicism and the aim is to enroll Catholics and foster the continuation of the beliefs of the church they are not exclusionary in their admissions policies.

In light of the financial resources of KS, however, it might be looked upon as exceptionally cheesy to charge non-Hawaiians higher tuition.


It may be cheesy but you figure by doing so, the will won't be broken and at the same time, the whole race thing is resolved too.

[WindwardOahuRN]

It may be cheesy but you figure by doing so, the will won't be broken and at the same time, the whole race thing is resolved too.

I'm of the opinion that the Will wouldn't risk being violated, no matter who they let in.

I've read it. It is open to interpretation. I choose to believe that Bernice Pauahi Bishop was an extraordinarily charitable human being that would not approve of practices that would be exclusionary to any child residing in Hawaii. She spoke of "preference." But not exclusion.

For those who are so adamant that the Will be followed to the absolute letter of their interpretation, what about the part of the Will that states "I also direct that the teachers of said schools shall forever be persons of the Protestant religion, but I do not intend that the choice should be restricted to persons of any particular sect of Protestants."

Yes, it gets sticky.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Let's review:

- this is a private school, created by the last will and testament, by a princess whose family ruled these isles four governments ago. Whose great-grandfather united the isles under one government. Whose granduncles naturalized citizens from all over the world. Not a tribal princess, but one who grew up under a constitutional monarchy, who married outside of her ethnicity, who was raised with, educated through, and freely adopted Christian principles and morals.

- this was an era where she saw an influx of foreigners from all corners of the world, and her native people dying out. Children orphaned. Old people burying all of their children and grandchildren, losing their line to all sorts of diseases. Finding an alarming number of their children infertile and unable to concieve or father another generation. This fate did not exempt her own peers; her teachers, Rev. A.S. Cooke and his wife educated 16 royal children through the Royal Chiefs' Children's School, and survived all but five of those pupils. Those 16, the third generation of governing ali'i included all from Kamehameha IV through Lili'uokalani, none of them having the luck to bear successfully another generation of ali'i.

- the ethic of those Christian teachers along with the tragedy that these young royals saw around them influenced them to their core. Look at their record of service:


Alexander Liholiho (KIV) and Emma: started Queen's Hospital, among the oldest public health facilities in the Pacific.

Lot Kapuaiwa (KV): built more buildings to further public needs than any other. From schools to prisons to hospitals for those afflicted with leprosy, he was completely preoccupied with developing needed infrastructure for a progressive Hawai'i.

Lunalilo: his will provides for the Lunalilo Home, Hawai'i's oldest elder care facility, for those unfortunate kupuna who were poor and bereft of family to care for them.

Kapi'olani, widow of Kalakaua: started QK Hospital for women and children--her original mission is still adhered to today.

Lili'uokalani: inherited her brother Kalakaua's portion as well, and the estate combined is the corpus of the Queen Lili'uokalani Children's Center, for orphaned native Hawaiian children.


These royals were all contemporaries of Pauahi, and a few (Emma immediately springs to mind) were of mixed ethnicity. Look at their record on the whole: they tended to the neediest. Their focus was heavily for the native kanaka, but not exclusively so.

-Look at what Pauahi wrote (http://www.ksbe.edu/pauahi/will.php), and pay attention to the form of English she used in how she wrote:

Thirteenth (third paragraph): I direct my trustees to invest the remainder of my estate in such manner as they may think best, and to expend the annual income in the maintenance of said schools; meaning thereby the salaries of teachers, the repairing buildings and other incidental expenses; and to devote a portion of each years income to the support and education of orphans, and others in indigent circumstances, giving the preference to Hawaiians of pure or part aboriginal blood; the proportion in which said annual income is to be divided among the various objects above mentioned to be determined solely by my said trustees they to have full discretion.

- What she said: she names two groups who should be educated: the orphaned and the indigent. She then qualifies who among them should recieve preference: native Hawaiian children. In that form of English, semi-colons separated sentences. That which follows a comma, if started with a verb is a dependent clause.

giving the preference to Hawaiians of pure or part aboriginal blood;

this is a dependent clause.

-What she did: a close eye on the earlier student body and curriculum of Kamehameha Schools yields an accurate measure of her goals for the school. The staff were Protestant and devout. The children were orphaned and indigent. It was known at that time as "the poor boys' school".

- the evolution of Kamehameha Schools. Ah, I've said enough already. In fact, so has everyone else on where KS is now, from where it was, and what its original intentions were. (hint: who is suing to get their kids into a poor boys' school? Who is taking a test to vie for a seat at the prestigious poor boys' school?) Once in a while, I need to get this off of my chest.

[Got2HaVKaYaNoW]

wow, mahalo foa da manao, puamanao...

I am hawaiian, actually haw-por-tag-ee...like most hawaiians nowadays, and its great what our Queen has done and I think it should stay the way that she intended it to be.....I mean if the government is now allowing addendums(*spelling) to be made to peoples WILL'S. What tha hell would happen to this country....

I mean that would mean all these Life Policy's, Wills, whatever would have no, no aah whats the word?...(*bearing)...anyway what I mean is, not going make sense for people to draw up will's and stuff in order for their money, property, real estate, go to their beneficiaries(Spelling*) IF the government and OTHERS have the ability to challenge it. u know what I mean?

k- hope dat make sense....(*BTW) can tell I neva go KAM, yea? get planny spelling *'s on dis!

I gotta say dis though.......again, just like those above, I shouldn't but since we're on the topic....

I neva undastan why, hawaiian kids have to take a test, in order to be accepted into the school. In the Queens Will she said ALL hawaiian children are to benefit...hmmm...that always stumped me...

Anyway, thats my thoughts.

MS. KaYa RoSe

[PoiBoy]

I neva undastan why, hawaiian kids have to take a test, in order to be accepted into the school. In the Queens Will she said ALL hawaiian children are to benefit...hmmm...that always stumped me...




Shameful that they turn their back on their people that need them most.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Kaya, I didn't go to KS either. But let me be honest: I was neither an orphaned nor indigent Hawaiian child. The generations above me in my family were lucky enough to attend KS. Their time spent there was during that "poor boy's school" era. If not for those fabulous opportunities that they received, I would not have grown up fortunate enough to be from a hard-working and educated family. KS provided that for them.

I don't know any non-alumni person who loves and follows KS as much as I do (that person might exist, but I would take it to the mat for that title ;) ). It lifted my family out of poverty via its education and how they imparted a hard working ethic. For me, it would be have been a "legacy" thing had I've gone.

She didn't want that. And the more I have educated myself in this area of her will, English linguistics, and historical track record (both in terms of what our Princess' issues were and how KS has evolved in the Y2K) the more resolute my belief that my children should not attempt to enroll in KS. KS did for our family already. I thank the Princess from the bottom of my heart for that. Morally, I would like to see the school take the foster kids, the felix kids, the kids who are high-functioning within a dysfunctional setting and save their lives. Why? Because that school saved my family's. So it saved mine, before I was even born.

That's how much I love KS, and ought to sue the trustees myself one day to force them to adhere to the precious will, and stop trying to make it compete against the likes of Punahou. And every time I see a KS student get dropped off in a late-model SUV, I want to throw up.

[timkona]

I would like to see the school take the foster kids, the felix kids, the kids who are high-functioning within a dysfunctional setting and save their lives. Why? Because that school saved my family's. So it saved mine, before I was even born.

The high achieving kids in the dysfunctional settings are the ones that can help society the most in the long run. It really makes no difference what the hell color they are. But society is essentially throwing away the future when the smartest, yet least advantaged, kids don't get the knowledge that KS can impart. In South Kona, I see this all too often.

And if dysfunctional settings exist more in Hawaiian families than in families of other pedigrees, as some of the apologists would argue on this forum, then by all means admit more of those kids.

Where high intelligence and the misfortune of fate intertwine, institutions like Kamehameha Schools can really help society.