No more soda for youse!

[SusieMisajon]

Bad, bad, bad!


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/health/view/290179/1/.html

[Karen]

Sigh, darnit! I want to comment before clicking on the links and then maybe later, after other posts I'll be back and comment on them. the reason is so what I say won't be biased by what I just learned.

I know sodas are not good for us. There's something in them, gotta go read a coke can, brb. LOL....aha! Phosphorous, which is natural but too much of it can and does leech calcium from our bones and bodies, and I'm 50, having to care a lot about bone density.

Then there's too much sugar, or the substitute sweeteners and the most popular is the worst for us, and dayum our govt. for not protecting us from aspartame, and those pretty little blue packets of a brand called equal.

Now, at a time in my life that I have been making myself have only one soda a week, approx....Pepsi went and did it! LOL they made the absolute best tasting soda, to me of course that's ever existed! This is what they call Jazz, and it comes in caramel and cream flavor, my fav. is strawberries and cream, and there's black cherry, I think it is, and cream. They have a diet version and it's really a treat of a soda, but the artificial sweetener, if I recall, is the worst of what's available. Sigh.....

[helen]

I don't think drinking one soda a week is going to kill you. It's when you start drinking it like 3 to 5 times a day (which is what I do).

[Leo Lakio]

It's when you start drinking it like 3 to 5 times a day (which is what I do).Helen, when's the last time you got tested for diabetes/hypoglycemia?

[scrivener]

I don't think that's an appropriate question in a public forum.

[SusieMisajon]

I don't think that's an appropriate question in a public forum.
Nobody says that the question has to be answered, but it may be a public service to get people thinking about that very question.

[Miulang]

I know sodas are not good for us. There's something in them, gotta go read a coke can, brb. LOL....aha! Phosphorous, which is natural but too much of it can and does leech calcium from our bones and bodies, and I'm 50, having to care a lot about bone density.

Unfortunately, ALL carbonated beverages contain phosphorous (that's what makes it fizzy), and that's the main reason why I like it. But I know that my last bloodwork showed that my calcium levels were depleted, so I've been trying to lay off the fizzy stuff. I've started drinking Crystal Light to Go (just add a packet to water) so at least the water is flavored, but I miss the bubbles!

There's one other ingredient in some soft drinks that is bad for people who take some types of medication (like the ones for high blood cholesterol). If you're taking any pills that have a warning about eating grapefruit products (http://www.raysahelian.com/grapefruit.html), you should steer clear of any soft drinks that might have grapefruit extract in them in the form of citric acid.

"Living is hazardous to your health...":mad:

Miulang

[blueyecicle]

No artificial sweetener for me....my throat swells like a balloon!
Good thing or a bad thing???
I guess good since BOTH types of soda are bad for you even the DIET!

I love my Dr. Pepper but like everything else in life, moderately. 1 can every couple days.

But I am not one to tell people what and how to drink, that just works for me.:p

[Karen]

Miulang, LOL it sure is....we be brave, huh? :D

[timkona]

I had a Coke while camping this weekend. Left my teeth feeling fuzzy and dirty. Do people like this crap?

[Glen Miyashiro]

Mmmm, love that phosphoric acid.

[lavagal]

Am I mistaken for thinking that because I stick to diet pepsi, diet coke or just plain ole seltzer, that I'm not at risk? I have osteoporosis-my hip burns after cardio class-is this what is doing it?

We do not let our kids drink regular soda; they can drink diet as long as it has no caffeine; but we do like to keep them on H2O and/or milk. I drink a lot of tea with lemon myself, hot, with splenda.

[blueyecicle]

Am I mistaken for thinking that because I stick to diet pepsi, diet coke or just plain ole seltzer, that I'm not at risk? I have osteoporosis-my hip burns after cardio class-is this what is doing it?

We do not let our kids drink regular soda; they can drink diet as long as it has no caffeine; but we do like to keep them on H2O and/or milk. I drink a lot of tea with lemon myself, hot, with splenda.

It says in the news article that diet soda is JUST as bad as regular soda.
Makes you think, maybe diet isn't the way to go.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-soda24jul24,0,1193801.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

Drinking as little as one can of soda per day -- either regular or diet -- is associated with a 48 percent increased risk of "metabolic syndrome," a key predecessor of heart disease and diabetes, according to new results released Monda

I don't want ,my kids drinking nutra sweet, so they drink water, milk and juice only. I drink tea and water and milk....mostly just the hubby drinks soda.

[pzarquon]

I drink soda. Less than I used to, but always more than I should. Fortunately, we've been able to warn our kids away... so far. They're still young and impressionable. In our house, we refer to Coke and Pepsi as "black juice." So effective is our brainwashing that our kids tell us the stuff is bad for us, the same way they unflinchingly nag their grandmother about the dangers of smoking.

[Miulang]

Am I mistaken for thinking that because I stick to diet pepsi, diet coke or just plain ole seltzer, that I'm not at risk? I have osteoporosis-my hip burns after cardio class-is this what is doing it?

Any carbonated beverage has the same effect (http://www.mindconnection.com/library/health/softdrinks.htm)on bones. The correlation appears to be there, but it's not strong enough yet for the feds to actually want to do something about it. Carbonated water may also affect the enamel on your teeth.

Miulang

[scrivener]

I've been something of a devotee of Rockstar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar (drink)) energy drink. True, it's still got that phosphoric effect, but the sweetener in the diet version is sucralose, which is not NutraSweet. No idea if that's any better.

No high-fructose corn syrup in the regular varieties, either. Those are sweetened with glucose and sucrose.

Yes, soda is not good for you. All thing in moderation.

[Leo Lakio]

I don't think that's an appropriate question in a public forum.I don't require a public (or private) answer - but I hope Helen is taking care of Helen's health.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

gimme smartwater or black coffee, or (mostly) water from my britta and I am good. Once in a while, if there's a wedge of lemon around, I put that in and its refreshing!

Maybe 3-4x/year I'll have a whisky on the rocks. Otherwise, I avoid alcohol.

[GregLee]

It would be interesting if drinking diet soda had been found to harm people, but this research doesn't show that. The researcher is quoted as saying that no causal link was shown.

[nikki]

I haven't had soda for... maybe 15 years or more. I went cold turkey. Now it tastes too chemical and sweet.

[acousticlady]

Unfortunately, I am a soda drinker too. I have a question. (And, no, I am not being sarcatic - never took chemistry or biology) If phosphoric acid is what makes soda bad for you and also what makes it fizzy, would drinking flat soda be any better? Does the phosphoric acid disappear when the bubbles do?

[Leo Lakio]

I don't think that's an appropriate question in a public forum.Sorry to harp on this further, but it seemed an odd point to get a burr under Scrivener's saddle. Consider the topic, and Helen's posting:

If you read the article in the link, it mentions...those who drank one or more soft drinks daily had an increased risk for metabolic syndrome when compared to individuals who drank fewer of the fizzy beverages.

Metabolic syndrome is a cluster of risk factors for heart disease and diabetes...Armed with that detail, followed up by Helens's admission of drinking soda "3 to 5 times a day (which is what I do)," it begs the question.

It wasn't a "tell us personal info, Helen" query*- it was an "I hope you are taking care of your health, Helen" one. It required no response.


(* = like there's ever been a dearth of those here; maybe it should have been a public poll? :rolleyes: )

[scrivener]

I understand the concern, but I thought maybe the question was too specific and too specifically directed. I know I wouldn't have answered it publicly. Helen obviously doesn't need me to intervene; forgive me if I was poking my nose where it didn't belong.

[Leo Lakio]

I understand the concern, but I thought maybe the question was too specific and too specifically directed. I know I wouldn't have answered it publicly. Helen obviously doesn't need me to intervene; forgive me if I was poking my nose where it didn't belong.I get you. I could have phrased it in a less niele fashion, too.

[adrian]

I remembered hearing about this on the news when I ordered my lunch today, so I didn't order any drink - just drank warm water for my meal (my water bottle was in my car)

[MixedPlateBroker]

Just a few points you may want to drink in:

1. All carbonated beverages do not contain phosphorus. However, they all contain CO2, which is why they are carbonated. Check the labels here (http://www.pepsiproductfacts.com/infobyproduct.php). Try looking up Diet Mountain Dew first.;)

2. There's no scientific evidence that shows drinking of all carbonated beverages leeches calcium from bones. But mind you there is a positive correlation between dairy intake and osteoporosis (http://www.slate.com/id/32621/) also noted here (http://www.compleatmother.com/milk.htm).

3. High phosphorus intake is indeed bad for your bones. The calcium leeched out travels through your kidneys. So if you want to avoid osteoporosis and kidney stones, limit your intake of select soft drinks (usually the brown ones), spinach, grapefruit and milk.

[MixedPlateBroker]

1. All carbonated beverages do not contain phosphorus.
Ugh. Meant to say that not all carbonated beverages contain phosphorus.:o

[Vanguard]

Is Vitamin Water considered too sugary by this standard?

[GeckoGeek]

Me? I drink water. It takes close to a buck off the cost of lunch or dinner at some places. I guess I'm just cheap. I'll drink soda on occasion, but I'm not up to one a day which the story said still was significant.

Note that they don't know if it's the soda or if drinking soda was simply an indicator of careless dietary habits.

[Karen]

Give up raw spinach for salads, or milk?! :eek:

I can give up sodas, I can have less, I can have one a month...telling myself I can! I'm headed that way. Darn Jazz, strawberries and cream had to come along this late in my life. fart!~

[acousticlady]

I would think the advantages of spinach and milk would out weigh the negatives.

[Random]

I don't think drinking one soda a week is going to kill you. It's when you start drinking it like 3 to 5 times a day (which is what I do).
Or in my case, empty one 2-liter bottle a day. :o

But I have stopped buying them since the start of summer. I still enjoy occasional drinks (two or three times a WEEK).

At least I'm not the one to buy bottled water to look cool when you already have tap. I mean, it's not like Hawaii is a third-world country that lack a freshwater treatment plant.

[Karen]

I was out shopping and I resisted a diet soda! dang though, I was really warm and got a small icee, and then realized as soon as six or so sips had made me feel cooler, that I had just taken a drink that was sweeter than I needed, so I didn't drink any more of it. Yeah, cold water does work quite well, but dangme, I do so luv my caffeine. :D