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adrian
August 6th, 2007, 08:49 AM
I have a horoscope sent to me everyday on my google homepage, and today's horoscope is...

You may realize that there is much at stake now, so it's crucial that you find your groove and get as much accomplished as possible. It will get harder to stay focused on your current work as the day progresses and your mind drifts off to distant places and other times. If only it were that easy to slip away from your present commitments.
So far, this is the most accurate horoscope I've gotten from that page.

do you believe?

sinjin
August 6th, 2007, 09:02 AM
"...It will get harder to stay focused on your current work..."

What is you current work?

Leo Lakio
August 6th, 2007, 09:30 AM
do you believe?I believe...
...you are smarter than that. Don't disappoint me.

Horoscopes are fun, so are fortune cookies and Magic 8-Balls (and a few other things I could name that would stir up a hornet's nest - so I'll stop with those.) Enjoy them for the amusement factor ("for entertainment purposes only"), but don't be guided by 'em, A.

blueyecicle
August 6th, 2007, 08:55 PM
No no...and No. Not me, but hey anyone who wants to, more power to em....Everyone needs a focus of some sort.

acousticlady
August 6th, 2007, 09:43 PM
I'm sure some of you have done this problem if you've taken a physics course, but a classic problem has you calculate the force between a newborn and the doctor delivering the newborn and then calculating the force between the newborn and the average distance to the influencing constellation (leo,aries, etc.) and the force between the doctor and the baby is much greater - so, technically, the docor should have more influence..........

StephS
August 7th, 2007, 05:30 AM
I'm not a big fan of horoscopes in the first place, so I would have to say no.

Leo Lakio
August 7th, 2007, 08:44 AM
technically, the doctor should have more influence..........Certainly does, if they drop ya at birth. (Wonder how much that explains about me...?:p )

DKP
August 7th, 2007, 08:18 PM
I don't believe most because they seem like general advice/events that happen to everyone almost everyday.

I WAS surprised to read about my profile as far as zodiac signs go. I read a little about it in a book at Rainbow Books. It basically describes the personalities of people of each sign. That one was dead on for me, but it could just be coincidence.

On Seinfeld, the chick said there are no small coincidences or big coincidences, just coincidences. Maybe, but there are definately some coincidences that are more beleivable than others.

This one wasn't THAT beleivable,

timkona
August 7th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Horoscopes, Mr. Rogers, Pele, Jesus, Ra, Buddha, Tarot, Runes, Allah, Palm Reading, Bones, Valhalla, 72 Virgins, Devil, etc. etc. etc.

Horse manure. The whole idea of "BELIEF" has always fascinated me. It is commonly an inverse measure of one's mental acuity.

ploal5333
August 7th, 2007, 10:43 PM
...Horse manure. The whole idea of "BELIEF" has always fascinated me. It is commonly an inverse measure of one's mental acuity.

I used to be a Doubting Thomas. For me seeing was believing. I've personally experienced them, female angels, and now I believe, in angels and in God. And I've heard of another's story which paralleled mine. I'm not crazy. I'm not a fanatic. And I don't agree that belief is an inverse measure of one's mental acuity. Far from it.

GeckoGeek
August 8th, 2007, 01:28 AM
The whole idea of "BELIEF" has always fascinated me. It is commonly an inverse measure of one's mental acuity.

I disagree. Sure, on the low end you have people governed by belief. But on the high end I think you'll find people who have a better grasp on what they don't know. It's the ones in the middle who proclaim science as their god and believe they they have no beliefs.

acousticlady
August 8th, 2007, 07:41 AM
The whole idea of "BELIEF" has always fascinated me. It is commonly an inverse measure of one's mental acuity.

Eintsein was a devote believer in God.

Leo Lakio
August 8th, 2007, 07:51 AM
Eintsein was a devote believer in God.
Here be some Einsteinian quotes on that ---

“My position concerning God is that of an agnostic."

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

“I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.… This is a somewhat new kind of religion.”

“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”

Stephen Jay Gould has compiled many of Einstein's comments in this realm, in order to show that Einstein's "God" was not the same as the "God" of most other people.

Karen
August 8th, 2007, 06:36 PM
Nah, but I did get a bit of a surprise. I hadn't read the decription of what I'm supposedly like, for many years. thirty years ago when I read it I was sure that my sign was wrong cuz Scorpio, not Capricorn fit me much better. Well, we know people change and dang if most of what Daughter read me the other day didn't fit!

They can be fun but I don't take 'em seriously.

acousticlady
August 8th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Here be some Einsteinian quotes on that ---

“My position concerning God is that of an agnostic."

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

“I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.… This is a somewhat new kind of religion.”

“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”

Stephen Jay Gould has compiled many of Einstein's comments in this realm, in order to show that Einstein's "God" was not the same as the "God" of most other people.

Cool! You learn something every day -oops that's another thread :o

The only thing I've ever really read on the subject in depth was about Einstein's famous quote "God doesn't play dice with the universe" which supposidly referred to the ancient Greeks version of the dice of the universe - earth, air, water, fire and the "5th element" - and of course a play on the game of dice.

leelee2223
August 9th, 2007, 05:43 AM
So....Ive been reading through this thread and the majority of you guys don't "believe." This what I have to say:

i don't think things are true or untrue; granted I agree with DKP, theses horoscopes and fortune cookies and such seem more like advice *or general occurances that could happen to just about anybody* than actual foreseeing.

It is what one believes. For instance, you're studying for a huge exam and the whole time youre thinking Im not going to pass im gonna fail! when you get the test back no matter how well you knew all the material, you failed! If someone truly in their heart feels something, I believe it may be willed into play.

Then there is the unexplainable. Sometimes things happen to people that one cannot really explain, but people can always break it down and pick it apart and have a scientific explanation or a reasonable reasoning, but you know, some things just are just unexplainable and some just spiritual.

The world *or even the universe, for that matter* is so vast and there is so much to learn and discover that we can never uncover even half of the universe's secrets in our whole life time, so who are we to say whether it is or it isn't what's right or what's wrong? It is what you believe and what you make of it, but I must say many of the sources of these horoscopes and psychics and tarot readers may not be reliable, especially off th einternet.

Leo Lakio
August 9th, 2007, 06:04 AM
Cool! You learn something every day -oops that's another thread :oI think part of that is because you (like many of the folks here) are willing to learn. Open-mindedness, especially when it comes to more controversial topics such as faith and belief, will take you far. (Based on your posts, it looks like it already has.)

ploal5333
August 9th, 2007, 03:52 PM
I think part of that is because you (like many of the folks here) are willing to learn. Open-mindedness, especially when it comes to more controversial topics such as faith and belief, will take you far. (Based on your posts, it looks like it already has.)

Boy, you sound condescending. :mad:

acousticlady
August 9th, 2007, 04:11 PM
Boy, you sound condescending. :mad:

Gee, I didn't take it that way at all. More of a "like we're all a bunch of cool, intellegent group" type of thing.

I'm only commenting cause the comment was directed at me.

Leo Lakio
August 9th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Boy, you sound condescending. :mad:
Not meant that way at all - please take it on face value, as I do consider the majority of posters on HT to be intelligent, creative, spiritual and engaging.
More of a "like we're all a bunch of cool, intellegent group" type of thing.Exactly as it was meant - thanks.

ploal5333
August 9th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Not meant that way at all - please take it on face value, as I do consider the majority of posters on HT to be intelligent, creative, spiritual and engaging.

Please excuse me, I was having a bad day and reacted without thinking. My apologies. :(

Leo Lakio
August 10th, 2007, 06:50 AM
Please excuse me, I was having a bad day and reacted without thinking. My apologies. :(Not a problem at all - I think we've all been there, and it's easy to misunderstand postings on a board. No harm, no foul, as they say.

Pua'i Mana'o
August 10th, 2007, 03:35 PM
If I run into good advice, I'm gonna take it, who cares where it came from.

mel
August 11th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Long ago before the internet when I was a kid, we took a tour to Hilo's Hawaii Tribune Herald newspaper. Back then syndicated columnists and the horoscope person would send the stuff to the paper via teletype. The person conducting our tour said that if the teletype machine broke down they would get one of the staff writers to write that day's horoscope for the paper.

From that day on I never believed in horoscopes.

GeckoGeek
August 11th, 2007, 05:10 PM
From that day on I never believed in horoscopes.

From what I've heard, even horoscope believers think what's in the paper is trash.

cynsaligia
August 11th, 2007, 09:02 PM
the reason why those who do follow astrology don't believe the stuff in the paper is bcs the stuff in the paper is based only on one aspect of what is called your "birth chart"--the sun sign (the astrological sign the sun was in at the date and time you were born. so if you were born between apr 21 and may 22 or something like that, your sun sign is taurus, for example). astrologers take into account not only where the sun is at the date and time of your birth, but where the moon, mars, jupiter, etc were and how they overlay against what astrologers call "houses." astrologers would say the best horoscope takes into consideration all of those things PLUS the position of the sun, moon, mars, jupiter, etc against the "house" overlay for today.

if you're curious as to what a "more accurate" horoscope would be, check out astrodienst.com and punch in your birth date, birth time, and place. there's other free stuff to check out there...for entertainment purposes, of course. *wink*

mel
August 11th, 2007, 09:49 PM
From what I've heard, even horoscope believers think what's in the paper is trash.

The only thing about the stars that I believe is that most of them are like our sun and some of them may have planetary systems revolving around em. They are light years away from us and the chances of anyone visiting even the closest star system within our lifetime is practically none.

I go with the astronomy stuff, not the astrology stuff.

Like the poster before me stated, it's all "for entertainment purposes". People shouldn't take this stuff seriously.

cezanne
August 12th, 2007, 12:16 AM
Nope. In God I Trust.

Karen
August 12th, 2007, 12:25 AM
Gecko, that's what I have gotten from true believers, too. I've been told if I was curious about my horoscope that I must "have it charted." I've been offered a free, indepth charting but turned it down cuz I got weird vibes from the person that offered and I don't mean cuz she believed in it.

tutusue
August 12th, 2007, 12:39 AM
[...]do you believe?
Yes, but only if it says I'm an earth angel! And my midnight moon is in manakoora. And my jupiter aligns with mars. And my aquarius refuses to age. And my mercury isn't retrograde. The next time all of that happens is in the year 2183. I can't wait! Literally!

:D

Leo Lakio
August 12th, 2007, 06:38 AM
In God I Trust.
...for entertainment purposes, of course.
:rolleyes: {heat shields UP}