Anybody going to see Makaha Sons on 9/22?

[akrauth]

Aloha! How many of you are going to this show? I'm pretty sure my 'ohana and I are going, and I'm so excited about it! It should be a lifetime treasure for me.

'Alika

[akrauth]

Looks like nobody else from this board is. Well then, let me tell you about it. They'll be playing in Exiter, NH, about a half hour or so away from my house in Maine, on 9/22/07. Hoku Zuttermeister will also be there, along with Andy Wang, a slack key player in New York who owns taropatch.net. I post on there frequently, so I'm very excited about meeting Andy. He said the same thing about me. I also hope that I can ask Hoku if I can sing "'Alika" with him. 'A'ole pilikia, I feel ready to do it now. I know the story and everything and will tell my audience about it before I sing it. I may even translate each line of the song after I sing it in Hawaiian. Also, at the end of the concert, I hope to ask all the performers if we can all sing "Hawai'i Aloha" and have the audience sing along. Wish me luck!

A hui hou,
'Alika

[LikaNui]

Looks like nobody else from this board is. No comments from us here in Hawai`i nei, as we can see the Sons all over the place and usually for free. Just another reason for "Lucky we live Hawai`i."
But enjoy the show!

I also hope that I can ask Hoku if I can sing "'Alika" with him. 'A'ole pilikia, I feel ready to do it now. I know the story and everything and will tell my audience about it before I sing it. Respectfully, it would probably be best to let Hoku himself tell the story, in order to ensure cultural integrity and correctness. Just a humble suggestion.

Also, at the end of the concert, I hope to ask all the performers if we can all sing "Hawai'i Aloha" and have the audience sing along. Um, they always do that. Good thinking, though.
Again, enjoy the show!

[Leo Lakio]

I also hope that I can ask Hoku if I can sing "'Alika" with him. 'A'ole pilikia, I feel ready to do it now. I know the story and everything and will tell my audience about it before I sing it. I may even translate each line of the song after I sing it in Hawaiian.Aloha, `Alika.

If you can be in touch with Hoku before the show, ask if you could practice it with him prior to the concert, so he can hear how your voice would work with his. You could ask about the translation and presentation of the song - but remember to let him (and the Makaha Sons) make the decisions as to what you should do and not do. It's their show, after all - and remember that Hoku is their guest artist, and may not be in a position to ask for your inclusion.

Please don't be hurt if they feel they have to say no; but of course, it will be a very sweet moment for you if they say yes, and we'll be ready to give you electronic cheers from many miles away. You're very lucky that they are touring near you; any time we get Hawaiian artists coming to share with us on the continent, it's a blessing.

[akrauth]

Aloha nui kakou,

Mahalo nui loa to all of you for all the suggestions and advice you have written to me. If I hadn't written that follow-up message, I don't think I would have ever gotten those replies. So, mahalo once again. I just wanted to say that I had already taken Leo's post into consideration, meaning that I did think about the fact that anything can happen when I'm there. Thus, my feelings won't be hurt if I can't ask about either of the songs. I also realized that this may not be the same as a concert in Hawai'i Nei because there's a time limit, I think. Also, we're here on the mainland, not in the islands, and so it might not be as laid-back as some of the entertainment I have sung at when I've been over there. That's fine with me. We'll just have to wait and see! I'll tell you what happens.

Aloha a hui hou,
'Alika

[Leo Lakio]

I just wanted to say that I had already taken Leo's post into considerationThat doesn't surprise me, `Alika - I know you do your research well. I hope you have a fantastic time, no matter what.

[akrauth]

I know I will. I'm sure all the performers will be fantastic.


'Alika

[Pua'i Mana'o]

I also hope that I can ask Hoku if I can sing "'Alika" with him. 'A'ole pilikia, I feel ready to do it now. I know the story and everything and will tell my audience about it before I sing it. I may even translate each line of the song after I sing it in Hawaiian. Also, at the end of the concert, I hope to ask all the performers if we can all sing "Hawai'i Aloha" and have the audience sing along. Wish me luck!

A hui hou,
'Alika

sweetie, am I understanding you correctly? You want to ask to sing "ʻAlika" on stage during the concert? And then request how to close the show?

Please do not do this. To do so is mahaʻoi and offensive and puts them in the position of having to hōʻole you, which is not fair to do to them. You have to think of their needs, honey. They have a job to do, yes though they love their job, it is nevertheless a job. Enjoy the ʻaha mele for what it is and do not attempt to alter it.

[Palolo Joe]

sweetie, am I understanding you correctly? You want to ask to sing "ʻAlika" on stage during the concert? And then request how to close the show?

Please do not do this. To do so is mahaʻoi and offensive and puts them in the position of having to hōʻole you, which is not fair to do to them. You have to think of their needs, honey. They have a job to do, yes though they love their job, it is nevertheless a job. Enjoy the ʻaha mele for what it is and do not attempt to alter it.

Hey akrauth... listen to PM. In this case, she knows what she's talking about.

I was going to say the same thing, but wouldn't have been as polite, then some donkey would have made a stupid comment... and then the thread wouldn't be about you and the concert.

So yeah. Listen to PM's advice.

[NH_Hula_Aunty]

Aloha e, `Alika,
Just wanted to say that I'll be at the concert:cool: . I live in Kingston, NH, about 45 minutes from York, and about 20 min. from Stratham, where the concert will be held.
I am a member of Hui Na Kawaiuaili; there are eight of us, from Maine and New Hampshire, dancing in the show.I am very busy right now making all the holomus we'll wear, and we're all practicing our okoles off. We are so honored and excited to be doing this!
I would love to meet you after the show; I'll be the blondest dancer you'll see on stage~ the only kama`aina is our kumu, Leimomi Hoover!
If you like, you can email me at hyetti@juno.com...the address I use the most.
A Hui Hou,
Aunty Nane

[NH_Hula_Aunty]

:o :o OOps...
here's the address written correctly:
hyetti@juno.com
K den...

[EastCoastTropics]

Hui, I'll also be attending.....to watch NH_Hula_Aunty dance! :) I leave for Oahu next week but will be back in time for the NH concert. Looking forward to watching this concert.

[EastCoastTropics]

I forgot to put this in my previous post....

I'd like to meet up with you as well so email me. To email me just click on my username at the top left-hand corner of this message, scroll down to "Send Email" to get my email addy. :)

[akrauth]

Why not? I do not plan on stealing the show for any means. I just thought that this may be something I'd be able to do because I know that in Hawai'i Nei, anyone who can sing or dance is welcome to show off their skills most of the time. What I didn't think about originally was that there's a time limit and it's at a different venue than some of the ones I've been able to sing at when I've visited the mokupuni. If you do not think I should even ask, then I won't. Did you get the point that what I'm hoping to do is ask if I can even do it, not just go up there and start belting the song out? Hope you don't mind me asking that.

On a different note, NH Hula Auntie and East Coast Tropics, I will e-mail you very shortly.

Aloha,
'Alika

[Leo Lakio]

Maybe the answer, `Alika, is if you just ask if you can sing with or for Hoku backstage, sometime before or after the show. Don't bring up the suggestion of coming onstage at all. If he feels it's appropriate, then he may offer. If it's not appropriate, then you haven't put him in an awkward position - and that's what's important here.

[akrauth]

Maybe the answer, `Alika, is if you just ask if you can sing with or for Hoku backstage, sometime before or after the show. Don't bring up the suggestion of coming onstage at all. If he feels it's appropriate, then he may offer. If it's not appropriate, then you haven't put him in an awkward position - and that's what's important here.

'A'ole pilikia, I wasn't even planning on bringing the topic of possibly doing it onstage up in the first place anyway. All I am hoping to do is ask if I can sing.

'Alika

[tutusue]

'A'ole pilikia, I wasn't even planning on bringing the topic of possibly doing it onstage up in the first place anyway. All I am hoping to do is ask if I can sing.

'Alika
With all due respect, Alika, in post #2 you wrote:
"I know the story and everything and will tell my audience about it before I sing it. I may even translate each line of the song after I sing it in Hawaiian. Also, at the end of the concert, I hope to ask all the performers if we can all sing "Hawai'i Aloha" and have the audience sing along. Wish me luck!"
(Emphasis is mine.)
That sure sounds to me as if you were planning to ask to be included on stage.

Pua'i Mana'o and Leo Lakio are right in their advice. It sounds like you now have another plan in place and that's a good thing. Enjoy the concert.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

If the risk of embarrassing the entertainers-- who will be caught unawares with such a request, and to even consider it means they must weigh the needs of the show against the unknown constraints presented just to indulge in the curiosity of a blind teenager who just wants to sing with them-- is worth it to you, then ask.

If learning how to prioritize your wants against others' needs and schedules is a haʻawina that you should need to be exposed to at this stage in life, then learn it and refrain.

[Lanikaibabe]

No; I won't be at that show -- but will be at the University of Maryland show on 9/26. Went to see them there last year, nice venue. Different from Wolf Trap venues.

I'm looking forward to the show -- a little bit of Hawaii to look forward to.

[akrauth]

Have fun, Christina! I'll tell you all how this one is.


'Alika

[Lanikaibabe]

Alika,

I guess I'll be reading your report before I go to my show. Mom and I are looking forward to our little piece of Hawai'i here on the East Coast :D

[akrauth]

Alika,

I guess I'll be reading your report before I go to my show. Mom and I are looking forward to our little piece of Hawai'i here on the East Coast :D

I hope you have a great time.

I wouldn't say this publicly if your e-mail address was working okay, but I still don't think it is, so I will ask, did you get the private message through this board that I wrote in reply to yours? Is there another e-mail address I can send messages to that might work better than your hotmail one? You can PM me with your answer if that's what you'd rather do.

Mahalo,
'Alika

[Lanikaibabe]

I did -- but I was online earlier and didn't have a chance to "do it all" -- had to run... as I do now -- some times I don't have all the time I'd like online... lol -- will write tomorrow.

[akrauth]

Hiki mai. I'll look out for it.

Mahalo,
'Alika

[akrauth]

This is a message that I posted on taropatch.net that I wanted to share with you guys.

Aloha mai kakou,

I just thought I'd give you all this message.

I just got an e-mail from Sharlene Oshiro earlier saying that she thinks I should have some more training in the ha'i style before singing "'Alika" on stage with Hoku Zuttermeister at the Makaha Sons concert in New Hampshire because he has been doing it since the beginning of his career. She went on to say that she understands how much of a challenge it is to sing ha'i after being trained and classical and opera music for so long.

I do believe she was right. Ha'i isn't my specialty, and I'm not that great at it compared to some of the other artists I know and love like Raiatea, Auntie Genoa, etc, and that's okay. I'm glad I had the oppurtunity to record it.

I wrote back to her saying that my feelings were not hurt at all. I would like to say mahalo to Sharlene and her associates for listening to my recording and being honest with me about their feelings about it. I will keep singing, playing the piano, and appreciating not just Hawaiian music but all types of music. Who knows, but maybe when I get a little older, I'll listen back at my recording of "'Alika" and say, "OK, this is a part that I need to work on" and work on it.

I also wanted to say mahalo nui loa to everybody from taropatch and elsewhere for their support and aloha. Mahalo for all your kind e-mails.

If anybody else on this board would like to hear my recording of this song that I sent to Sharlene and her associates, please e-mail me, PM me, or reply online here, and I'll be happy to send you a file of me singing it. I hope you enjoy it.

Aloha no, a hui hou,
'Alika

[craigwatanabe]

Well I'm no music expert but I would imagine that the harder you try the more frustrating it gets.

If it's to sound natural then I suspect the effort should be as well. Trying isn't good enough, being it is a good start...well that's what my sensei told me when he instructed me to grab the pencil thru the block of wood. Basically he wanted me to splinter the wood to get to the pencil but not think the wood was a barrier. He said, "you try you fail, you do, you succeed"

Kinda like If can can, If no can, bottle.:D meaning if no can, do something else.

Good luck, take some drugs, clear the mind and sing til it hurts! Focus on moving the listener to tears.

And hey let us hear you...it may not be good enough for Oshiro, but to us I'm sure we can appreciate it as I'm no expert and can enjoy even a good Karaoke night with the bottom ten Hawaii Stars contestants!:)

[Pomai]

No comments from us here in Hawai`i nei, as we can see the Sons all over the place and usually for free. Just another reason for "Lucky we live Hawai`i."
But enjoy the show!Where on Oahu do they perform for FREE? Most events (actually all) I've heard of that included the Makaha Sons have been paid venues. Unless they're doing cameos somewhere that you know about. Perhaps somewhere on the west side? I haven't seen them at a Ho'olaulea in years. Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere here.

I'm just thankful Henry Kapono still plays Sunday's at Duke's for FREE (no minimum drink requirement).

[LikaNui]

Where on Oahu do they perform for FREE? Most events (actually all) I've heard of that included the Makaha Sons have been paid venues. Various and sundry benefit gigs and fundraisers and charity events, unless they've very recently completely stopped doing those.
I just keep an eye on their website and the listings in the papers.
But I haven't bothered going to see them recently, since they continue to invite convicted child molester Kinky Chinky Mahoe to perform with them.
:(

[Mokihana]

But I haven't bothered going to see them recently, since they continue to invite convicted child molester Kinky Chinky Mahoe to perform with them.
:(

Good choice..

[Lanikaibabe]

Ooooh what's this? Maybe I shouldn't go and support them now!

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Various and sundry benefit gigs and fundraisers and charity events, unless they've very recently completely stopped doing those.
I just keep an eye on their website and the listings in the papers.
But I haven't bothered going to see them recently, since they continue to invite convicted child molester Kinky Chinky Mahoe to perform with them.
:(

I have a problem with this kūʻē, although I completely understand why you feel this way. Do we shun people who extend grace to those who easily do not deserve it? Should we?

[LikaNui]

I have a problem with this kūʻē, although I completely understand why you feel this way. Do we shun people who extend grace to those who easily do not deserve it? Should we? Good point. In my own case, I've seen the group perform literally dozens of times so I'm not desperate to go see them. And I should've clarified earlier that I will go see them for sure if Kinky Chinky Mahoe is not on the bill, and I'll probably go see them at events where he is on the bill, though I'll definitely walk out when that convicted child molester comes on stage.
Hopefully that explains my position better than I did earlier.
:o

And only slightly off-topic... congratulations to Moon on his recent wedding!
:)

[Mokihana]

I have a problem with this kūʻē, although I completely understand why you feel this way. Do we shun people who extend grace to those who easily do not deserve it? Should we?

I agree that extending grace to those who do not deserve it is a good thing. I also agree with LikaNui that I would gladly go to see Mākaha Sons (and have, when they came to Portland).

To my knowledge, Chinky Mahoe has never apologized for what he did; I have friends who have been molested and have seen the terrible emotional toll that they're left with. Therefore, I could not in good conscience stay during a time when Chinky is performing. If there is no evidence of remorse, then one cannot have reconciliation. Forgiveness, yes, but not reconciliation.

And to get this back on track... It was a real privilege to get to see Mākaha Sons here. The concert was absolutely fabulous.

[MatildaRose]

For those who can catch the Patriots-Bills game this Sunday, Makaha Sons and Hoku Zuttermeister will be singing the National Anthem. Alas, our local CBS affiliate, KGMB, will not be televising the game according to: http://www.makahasons.com/home.html

[EastCoastTropics]

For those who can catch the Patriots-Bills game this Sunday, Makaha Sons and Hoku Zuttermeister will be singing the National Anthem. Alas, our local CBS affiliate, KGMB, will not be televising the game according to: http://www.makahasons.com/home.html

Hubby works for Gillette and will be attending this game (go PATS!). I won't be attending but he's bringing my camera to see if he can get a couple of photos of the Makaha Sons singing the National Anthem.


Also, they and Hoku Z. were at the myfoxboston.com this morning!
http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/Entertainment/Detail?contentId=4421751&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=7.1.1

Lovena

[akrauth]

Hubby works for Gillette and will be attending this game (go PATS!). I won't be attending but he's bringing my camera to see if he can get a couple of photos of the Makaha Sons singing the National Anthem.


Also, they and Hoku Z. were at the myfoxboston.com this morning!
http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/Entertainment/Detail?contentId=4421751&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=7.1.1

Lovena

E Lovena, hope to meet you tonight. Same for you, Auntie Nane. Pomaika'i on your dancing!

Na 'Alika

[akrauth]

Oh yeah, I also wanted to tell you guys that I truly believe you shouldn't be discriminating against Chinky Mahoe, but thhen I don't know what he did. Is it okay to share publicly or can any of you tell me privately?

'Alika

[Leo Lakio]

Oh yeah, I also wanted to tell you guys that I truly believe you shouldn't be discriminating against Chinky Mahoe, but thhen I don't know what he did. Is it okay to share publicly or can any of you tell me privately?There's a whole thread here (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=2660). It was eye-opening for me. :eek: It's not a pleasant story, `Alika - he pled "no contest" to sexual assault charges about a decade ago.