Britney Finished?

[alohabear]

Last night was a shameful train wreck during the opening of MTV's VMAs. The lip singing "lost look" on her once beautiful face, the highschool dance moves, I could go on. Although I love the "leaked" songs I've heard, I think this once pop princess is done.
What do you think? Can she come back?
http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/09/spears_l.jpg

[Leo Lakio]

What do you think? Can she come back?Does she have to? :rolleyes:

...tick...tick...tick...*DING!* Of all people, she should know the term for when your fifteen minutes of fame has elapsed - it's called "crossing the federline."

[tikiyaki]

Last night was a shameful train wreck during the opening of MTV's VMAs. The lip singing "lost look" on her once beautiful face, the highschool dance moves, I could go on. Although I love the "leaked" songs I've heard, I think this once pop princess is done.
What do you think? Can she come back?
http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/09/spears_l.jpg


I really hope she doesn't.

[Mahi Waina]

I like a girl with a little meat on her bones. After all the complaints about anorexic models, why slam her for having curves?

[Leo Lakio]

why slam her for having curves?Ummm...who said anything here about her body shape? :confused:

[lavagal]

I like a girl with a little meat on her bones. After all the complaints about anorexic models, why slam her for having curves?

I've only seen stills and if you ask me she now looks like the rest of us normal women. I'm not saying she IS normal. I'd have to say that we look about the same in a bikini--which is why I wear a tankini, LOL!

[1stwahine]

I like a girl with a little meat on her bones. After all the complaints about anorexic models, why slam her for having curves?
:)

Ummm...who said anything here about her body shape?
:D

I've only seen stills and if you ask me she now looks like the rest of us normal women. I'm not saying she IS normal. I'd have to say that we look about the same in a bikini--which is why I wear a tankini, LOL!
:p

It's gonna be a wonderful week!

Mahalo

Auntie Lynn

[GeckoGeek]

What do you think? Can she come back?

My gut feeling? She can, if she really gets serious about it.

The question is how long can she keep fooling herself and what does she do when she finally wakes up.

[MatildaRose]

Does she have to? :rolleyes:

...tick...tick...tick...*DING!* Of all people, she should know the term for when your fifteen minutes of fame has elapsed - it's called "crossing the federline."

Possibly. I'm curious as to how much she has to pay the money-hungry Federline per their divorce settlement. I'm not impressed by either one of them. The word "tacky" comes to mind.

[tutusue]

Britney who?

:rolleyes:

[Pomai]

Oh great. A Britney-bashing thread. This will be long-winded. :confused:

Bash MTV first. Last night's VMA's (as a whole) sucked!

[Mahi Waina]

Ummm...who said anything here about her body shape? :confused:

You're right, nobody here mentioned her weight. Sorry, I was reacting to the AP News article:


"Out-of-synch lip-synching. Lethargic movements that seemed choreographed by a dance instructor for a nursing home. The paunch in place of Spears' once-taut belly. At times she just stopped singing altogether, as if even she knew nothing could save her performance."

[Leo Lakio]

I was reacting to the AP News article:

"Lethargic movements that seemed choreographed by a dance instructor for a nursing home. The paunch in place of Spears' once-taut belly."Thank (insert your fave deity here) that writer has never seen me dance hula. :eek:

In fact, you should all be so grateful.

[sinjin]

Britney's career is officially a train wreck.

[MatildaRose]

Britney's career is officially a train wreck.


Maybe we should take a vote and ask, "Who cares?" She is/was her own worst enemy; she has no one to blame but herself (her agent should be history, too).

[Lei Liko]

Oh great. A Britney-bashing thread. This will be long-winded. :confused:

Bash MTV first. Last night's VMA's (as a whole) sucked!

It's a blessing that they'll only be showing the "awards" show in its entirety once. From what I understand, they'll have a "Greatest Moments" special (that will most likely be shown in re-runs as all MTV shows are). I'm surprised they even bothered to give awards out at all. It seemed like they were in a different club/suite every 2 minutes. God bless Alicia Keys for redeeming it all. At least SOMEONE at the show could sing!

Whoever decided to bring Sarah Silverman on needs to be fired. SRSLY, referring to Britney's kids as "mistakes"? That's poor taste, even for MTV. There are just some lines you do not cross.

The Britney performance was just tragic, but it was pure genius on MTV's part. I don't know how many people tuned in, but I'm sure the numbers are way up there because everyone wanted to see her. I doubt that anyone expected her to crash and burn like that.

Mad props to Dr. Dre for coming out of hiding!

[Leo Lakio]

Pop Tarts come, Pop Tarts go. She was just one in a long, unbroken line of disposable music celebrities, manufactured by a corpulent and dying dinosaur of an industry, then tossed aside for the next "flavor-of-the-day." She's deluded if she thinks she still has a career. Whither Debbie Gibson?

[Lei Liko]

... Whither Debbie Gibson?

Oh dear, LL...it's DEBORAH Gibson now. :rolleyes: ;)

[Leo Lakio]

Oh dear, LL...it's DEBORAH Gibson now. :rolleyes: ;)I know that - but even the shopping malls won't book her (or Tiffany) these days.

[sinjin]

Maybe we should take a vote and ask, "Who cares?"What would that prove?

[Leo Lakio]

What would that prove?That "statistics" can be malleable fun! ;)

[Lei K]

It was her dancing, or lack there of, that blew me away. She just sort of walked through the whole thing and wiggled here and there. She was on some other planet during that whole performance.

Britney is FAR from fat, or even chubby, but she could have chose a better outfit. It's one of those things she really should have thought through considering it was her big "comeback."

[Mokihana]

Ainokea. :rolleyes:

[zztype]

Does she have to? :rolleyes:

...tick...tick...tick...*DING!* Of all people, she should know the term for when your fifteen minutes of fame has elapsed - it's called "crossing the federline."

They also call it "Jumping the Shark (http://www.jumptheshark.com)."

Or this url will bring you directly to the Britney Jumps the Shark (http://www.jumptheshark.com/blog-entry/Erin-Foxs-Blog/Vmas-Wowwe-Dont-Know-Say/700000246) article.

We really felt that the crowd was pulling for poor Brit. It's really hard to watch someone who was once so talented (at least talented at making us want to watch her), fall on her face. Publicly. Again. We wanted her to kick ass. We wanted a comeback. But obviously, based on that apathetic and sloppy performance, Brit's not coming back anytime soon.

[TATTRAT]

No big loss, imo.

Does MTV play music anymore?

[Lei Liko]

No big loss, imo.

Does MTV play music anymore?

Actually, they do.

Maybe not on MTV or MTV2, but on MTV Hits (MTVH on your digital listings).

[MatildaRose]

That "statistics" can be malleable fun! ;)


My thought exactly! :)

[tikiyaki]

Oh great. A Britney-bashing thread. This will be long-winded. :confused:

Bash MTV first. Last night's VMA's (as a whole) sucked!


MTV hasn't been worth salt in MANY years.
Remember they used to play Music Videos ?
MTV, Britney, Justin Timberlake.... How many times can these people try to re-invent the same boring wheel ?

Let's Review
Lame, overproduced dance pap song (yes PAP, not POP)
The, "look, I'm almost naked" outfit.
The "watch me simulate humping" dance moves.
800 dancers onstage, doing all the cheezy coreographed "Cats" moves.
Alot of lights to distract you from the crappy music, which she isn't even singing to.
The only thing she didn't do was something "edgy" and "controversial" like have someone pull down her top, or blasphemize a religious icon (ie: Madonna)

This is the VMA's every year.

Isn't it time for something different ?

Sorry, but anyone watching the VMA's expecting anything different is delusional. :rolleyes:

[TATTRAT]

I think Jello Biafra said it best, "MTV Get off the air"

[scrivener]

I haven't seen the performance, but based on the stills, I have to say she looks better than I've ever seen her, at least physically. There's a certain tiredness in her face that a woman that age should not have, but it's been a rough couple of years.

I am no fan of her type of music, but I think she's good at it, and yes, she can come back if she wants to. The reviewers say the song itself sounded pretty good.

Deborah Gibson: Say what you want about her, but she wrote all her own songs -- music AND lyrics -- and how many bubble-gum teenie-bopper acts can you say that about, outside Hanson?

Madonna showed that it can be done. Britney will be back, and I hope she comes back strong, if only to shut the haters up. There's a fine line between schadenfreude and just plain mean and nasty, and most of the Britney (Paris, Lindsey, Nicole) talk I hear is so far past mean and nasty that it sickens me far beyond the behavior that inspires it.

[LikaNui]

Or this url will bring you directly to the Britney Jumps the Shark (http://www.jumptheshark.com/blog-entry/Erin-Foxs-Blog/Vmas-Wowwe-Dont-Know-Say/700000246) article. We really felt that the crowd was pulling for poor Brit. It's really hard to watch someone who was once so talented (at least talented at making us want to watch her), fall on her face. Publicly. Again. We wanted her to kick ass. We wanted a comeback. But obviously, based on that apathetic and sloppy performance, Brit's not coming back anytime soon.
Geez, I remember when that happened to Joe Cocker. Various addictions (mostly alcohol) had pretty much ruined his musical career, and he kinda vanished for a very long time. Then he purportedly cleaned up his act, and went for a grand comeback by doing a concert at The Roxy in Hollywood, attended by lots of VIPs and many in the media and in the radio biz (including yours truly). Sadly, Cocker was soooooo nervous about the event that he drank himself into a near stupor just before going on stage. Falling down drunk. Very very sad. (And unlike Britney, most of Cocker's crowd that night were really pulling for him to succeed.)
Cocker and his wife now own and manage The Mad Dog Ranch (http://www.cocker.com/MadDogRanch/), a bed-and-breakfast inn in Colorado.
:o
About Britney -- is there a link to YouTube or somewhere that shows her so-called 'performance' last night?

[Pomai]

About Britney -- is there a link to YouTube or somewhere that shows her so-called 'performance' last night?Go directly to MTV.com. They have it there (with just a short commercial before it). :eek: :D

[LikaNui]

There's a fine line between schadenfreude and just plain mean and nasty, and most of the Britney (Paris, Lindsey, Nicole) talk I hear is so far past mean and nasty that it sickens me far beyond the behavior that inspires it. Amen to that!!! Who among us would want to live under the intense microscope she does? Where every single minute of her life is scrutinized and pseudo-analyzed by evil paparazzi.
If I was King Of The World, paparazzi would be eliminated totally.

[Pomai]

Amen to that!!! Who among us would want to live under the intense microscope she does? Where every single minute of her life is scrutinized and pseudo-analyzed by evil paparazzi.
If I was King Of The World, paparazzi would be eliminated totally.But then you'd have to eliminate women, who are the primary demographic of tabloids and other mediums of celebrity gossip, who in turn pay the paparazzi for the journalistic content they need.

It's a vicious cycle. :rolleyes:

[Leo Lakio]

Who among us would want to live under the intense microscope she does? Where every single minute of her life is scrutinized and pseudo-analyzed by evil paparazzi.People like that need the paparazzi to survive. Without tabloids and so-called "reality" TV, dozens of today's celebrities would be living in obscurity. And that might just be a blessing, as we consumers might not be force-fed the crap that the media conglomerates want us to swallow - and could instead focus on people with actual talent. If Ms. Spears would like a life free of scrutiny, she could start by staying off television and focusing instead on creating a "normal" environment for her children. But that's obviously not what she wants, so that's not what she'll get - I shed no tears for her.

[LikaNui]

Go directly to MTV.com. They have it there (with just a short commercial before it). :eek: :D Thanks, I think. Found it at this link (http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1568788&vid=173440). Fairly underwhelming. The Taco Bell commercial was more interesting, personally. But the audience gave her a pretty good round of applause at the end. Not sure why so many (and I don't mean here on HT) are jumping on the Destroy Britney bandwagon.
Hell, she's young. And she's worth $150 million, as I recall. She doesn't need the kind of BS she's being dealt. She needs some guidance in making better life and career choices, is all.

[cynsaligia]

If Ms. Spears would like a life free of scrutiny, she could start by staying off television and focusing instead on creating a "normal" environment for her children. But that's obviously not what she wants, so that's not what she'll get - I shed no tears for her.

i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.

when have we ever said of a famous man, "if mr. so and so would like a life free of scrutiny....he should stay home with his kids." i mean, we usually don't hear about male celebs' hard partying until they've been arrested and ramble on about how jews are the bane of the universe or fall down dead on the sidewalk fronting the viper room because of a drug or alcohol OD. even then, we don't say, "what the hell was he doing out drinking like a wanton bachelor? how come he wasn't home with his wife and kids??!!" if we do, it's never with the vehemence we spend on spears, etc.

i know i'm going kinda off topic, but this is just more proof of how life is far from equal for men and women--even for those who are celebs. it disgusts me that pomai is likely right, too--that women are the biggest consumers of paparazzi-produced crap. so, more "crab syndrome" (go see the women in a man's world thread if you need an explanation for that).

pisses me off to no end. :mad:

[scrivener]

i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.
For a few years, it seemed like Charlie Sheen was the guy, but even at its worst, it was never like this.

if we do, it's never with the vehemence we spend on spears, etc.
I think you bring up a good point I've never considered. Women celebrities DO seem to be held to different standards. There was the Alex Rodriguez thing, but that seemed to be a big deal only in New York. Tom Brady, Pac-Man Jones, Michael Vick, and David Beckham get a fair amount of scrutiny, but I watch sports talk shows and maybe they don't get nearly as much coverage in mainstream media. Hm.

[Pomai]

this is just more proof of how life is far from equal for men and women--even for those who are celebs. it disgusts me that pomai is likely right, too--that women are the biggest consumers of paparazzi-produced crap. so, more "crab syndrome" (go see the women in a man's world thread if you need an explanation for that).

pisses me off to no end. I risked saying that in fear of being labeled a sexist. But it's the plain hard fact.

My girlfriend is a major HOUND of tabloid gossip. She has the TV channel on E!, VH-1... wherever there's something said about a celeb', she's watching it. So is the same for my mother. She buys Enquirer, Star, and all that other supermarket checkout tabloids trash. Which is exactly what it is. I get on her case all time about that.

Don't get me wrong. I love you ladies with all my heart. Just saying.

As far as Britney, Paris France, Brangelina, or any other cover story on Enquirer or E!, I could care less. Pass me the remote. :D

[cynsaligia]

I risked saying that in fear of being labeled a sexist. But it's the plain hard fact.

My girlfriend is a major HOUND of tabloid gossip. She has the TV channel on E!, VH-1... wherever there's something said about a celeb', she's watching it. So is the same for my mother. She buys Enquirer, Star, and all that other supermarket checkout tabloids trash. Which is exactly what it is. I get on her case all time about that.

Don't get me wrong. I love you ladies with all my heart. Just saying.

As far as Britney, Paris France, Brangelina, or any other cover story on Enquirer or E!, I could care less. Pass me the remote. :D

for the record, pomai, i didn't call you sexist. i was only expressing my disgust at how what you said is likely true and that it's another example of women hating on women or at least relishing another woman's misery/failings as a way to feel good about themselves. sucks assdookie on a stick.

for the other record, it's not "i could care less," it's "i couldn't care less."

[Pomai]

for the record, pomai, i didn't call you sexist. i was only expressing my disgust at how what you said is likely true and that it's another example of women hating on women or at least relishing another woman's misery/failings as a way to feel good about themselves. sucks assdookie on a stick.

for the other record, it's not "i could care less," it's "i couldn't care less."I know you weren't saying that. I'm just covering my butt. :D

[Pua'i Mana'o]

put me in the group that has no real curiosity on how she chooses to conduct her personal life. But if one looks up any clips of B.S. performing live, one has to see how consistently, over the span of her career, she worked her ass off on stage to give high intensity performances. In comparison, it is hard not to be disappointed with her stint on the 2007 VMAs.

I forgive her for having bad fashion sense when she knows full well that her outfit would be scrutinized no matter what it was. But to give a lazy live performance when you tell me "it's Britney, bitch!" Awheeeellllllno!

[Random]

Whither Debbie Gibson?
I'm trying to recall if Debbie has suffered the same downward spiral as Britney but I can't.

She has moved on from her "bubblegum pop star" days and into broadway musicals. FWIW, at least she's doing good.

Tiffany OTOH, has her ups and down, which includes posing for Playboy and putting extra junk in her trunk but she's a non-partying mother now.

Somebody have got to stage an intervention on Britney, that includes terminating her leeching entourage that are encouraging her partying ways.

[Random]

Britney who?

:rolleyes:
Like Elvis, I will fondly remember the young, vibrant skinny version. :p

[Kalihiboy]

I'm trying to recall if Debbie has suffered the same downward spiral as Britney but I can't.

She has moved on from her "bubblegum pop star" days and into broadway musicals. FWIW, at least she's doing good.

Tiffany OTOH, has her ups and down, which includes posing for Playboy and putting extra junk in her trunk but she's a non-partying mother now.

As I recall Tiffany was one of the very last acts to play at the old Gussie Lamours (sp?) out by the airport.

Deborah Gibson never posed in PLAYBOY? I'm sure she has been offered many times as has Britney Spears.

Aj

[Kalei99]

I echo Scrivener's sentiments. I'm not a big fan of Britney's music (I'm more of a rocker than not) but I believe that people are so quick to judge. Let the girl be. There's so much negativity out there. Rarely do you hear about the good things that people do -- we usually focus on the negative or point out the "bad" things about one's performance.
I say "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Matthew 7:1
Just MHO. :p

~Kalei~

[Leo Lakio]

i wonder how many male celebs (with or without children) go out clubbing and drinking etc. etc. but, in contrast to female celebs, never get outed by paparazzi. i can't think of any male celebs who are followed with such passionate doggedness as spears, lohan, et al. are. yet, i can't imagine that it's only the females who are acting so scandalously.I would say the same about Kevin Federline - only his track record with regards to children leads me to believe it's better that he NOT be involved in their upbringing.

It's rather hard to argue against your first point since, as you noted, without them being "outed," we have no way of knowing whether they are out clubbing or not. But how many male celebs would go out in public sans underwear, knowing full well that they might get photographed showing their wares?

Look at Ms. Spears behavior since her career took off. She craves the publicity; it's her drug. Sorry - she won't earn my sympathy until she behaves as if she does not want to be in the spotlight.

And it's not just her. There are plenty of low-talent hacks foisted on us, male and female, who I would like to ignore - but I don't really wanna live in a cave in Afghanistan, so I accept that I will see & hear of their follies --- but you can't make me care about their downfalls.

[cynsaligia]

I would say the same about Kevin Federline - only his track record with regards to children leads me to believe it's better that he NOT be involved in their upbringing.

It's rather hard to argue against your first point since, as you noted, without them being "outed," we have no way of knowing whether they are out clubbing or not. But how many male celebs would go out in public sans underwear, knowing full well that they might get photographed showing their wares?

Look at Ms. Spears behavior since her career took off. She craves the publicity; it's her drug. Sorry - she won't earn my sympathy until she behaves as if she does not want to be in the spotlight.

And it's not just her. There are plenty of low-talent hacks foisted on us, male and female, who I would like to ignore - but I don't really wanna live in a cave in Afghanistan, so I accept that I will see & hear of their follies --- but you can't make me care about their downfalls.

leo, i wasn't trying to "make you care" about them, nor be sympathetic. duh, i'm smart enough to know i can't "make" anyone do anything they don't want to, especially on something like a discussion board. i was merely pointing out that given female celebs and male celebs who have reached a certain level of fame/notoriety (whether deserved or not), the male celebs are likely to get a pass that the females don't.

as for male celebs who go out not wearing underwear? i distinctly remember eminem, himself a parent, going out and flashing not just the back side but the front side--not just "knowing full well" that he might be photographed, but purposely to the paparazzi. when he did it, he didn't get anywhere near the same amount of finger-wagging and tsktsking britney did. i mean, this guy did a song about killing his wife, and yes, i will heartily admit he got flack for it, but nowhere near the kind of negative press that britney does. and where, where? did she write lyrics so incendiary as eminem's?

oh, and how many generations are there of male rockers have given drug addled, piss-poor, incoherent performances? these same guys sometimes not only had children, but had children by several different women, and did not marry them. yet we don't hear about those unless we see the stories, years later, on vh-1's "behind the music."



yep. still pissed about the double standard.

[Leo Lakio]

i was merely pointing out that given female celebs and male celebs who have reached a certain level of fame/notoriety (whether deserved or not), the male celebs are likely to get a pass that the females don't. --- yep. still pissed about the double standard.I don't see a double standard, actually. I see more women in the bad spotlight these days, because (1) there are far more women in the top tiers of entertainment than there were just thirty years ago (especially in popular music - which is a GOOD thing), and (2) the press used to be more complicit in hiding "bad habits" than they are now.yes, i will heartily admit (Eminem) got flack for it, but nowhere near the kind of negative press that britney does.Well, since I avoid, rather than follow celebrity "news," I can't cite anything that says he got as much bad press - but I don't think you can prove that he got less, either. I certainly remember hearing or reading very harsh press about him, and for a long time, too. I think people will talk about his misogynistic lyrics for a lot longer than the MTV Video Awards performance that started this thread.oh, and how many generations are there of male rockers have given drug addled, piss-poor, incoherent performances? these same guys sometimes not only had children, but had children by several different women, and did not marry them. yet we don't hear about those unless we see the stories, years later, on vh-1's "behind the music."What - have people finally stopped talking about Keith Richards's heavy drug use, or Mick Jagger's rocky relationships, or any of the other abuses of rockers from the '60s? No one speaks of Brian Wilson's messed-up nature, or Phil Spector's bizzare behavior? How about Patti Boyd's new book, where she tells how, despite years of begging from Eric Clapton, she insisted on staying with and trying to rebuild her marriage to George Harrison - until he had an affair with Ringo's wife, Maureen?

The stories of these men are out there, but the general public shows less interest in old fut stars than in attractive young female celebs. Perhaps that's the double standard. Maybe there's where the problem lies - with the consumers of this crap than with those who feed it to us.

[Karen]

She should be finished for the foreseeable future. The sad and embarassingly unprofessional way that the MTV show opened makes one wonder...who'd be more pitiful, the people that would PAY to go see her anytime soon, or her for daring to actually try to sell tickets for people to actually sit and watch her.

I've seen better moves in Jazzercise class!

She makes over 700K a month, so if she has no career left she'll be fine if she just won't blow it all on partying, hence her kids may...be fine. Dunno, as her parenting skills are questionable to say the least.

[cynsaligia]

From salon.com (http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/09/12/britney_vma/):

There was also the harsh but deserved criticism of her performance and, more horrendously, of her physique. Spears, it seems, two children and five years of self-abuse later, no longer pleases the public with her hourglass shape. No, her ill-fitting outfit showed off a figure that was not as compact and pink as it was when she was a teenager. Sure, she looked better in a bikini than probably 98 percent of the Americans sitting on their couches and howling at her, but she was no longer porn-star perfect. And in the American lexicon, that equals fat. Wonder why your daughters have eating disorders and hate their bodies? Maybe because they're reading reports that label the thin young woman dancing around in a bra and panties physically unappealing and obese.

But shame on Spears for cheerfully submitting to our expectations once again, after all these years and all the crap she's taken. I'm willing to believe that she was pushed into show business by a striving mom (a woman whom time, and the arrival of Vampire Mother of the Damned Dina Lohan on the scene, has flattered), molded into a confusing vamp-virgin and told to sing songs about being hit while wearing a schoolgirl outfit; I'm willing to believe that she was offered no moral structure or opportunity to build a personality of her own; I'm willing to believe that she is a victim of grotesque class expectations that chucked her back in the Cheetohs-and-trucker-hats ghetto as swiftly as erotic expectations plucked her from it. But I'm not willing to believe that she was forced by anyone to show up on national television on Sunday night.

IMO, this is probably the best and most truthful breakdown of the...well, breakdown, that is britney spears.

[TATTRAT]

that is not a bad break down of things. Like Madonna, she might reinvent herself again and again, but only time will tell.

Personally, I much prefer the shapeliness of the new, so call" less then porn perfect" Britney. I think the media sends the wrong idea of beauty, but that is another story.

She is a human, and trying to make a buck ultimately. Though she is not, and has never been my cup of tea, I still feel she is a poor role model. If I had a teen/preteen daughter, I would not want her looking up to that as a positive figure. I am sure my parents thought the same thing about some of the punk rockers I grew up listening to, but oh well.

I guess overall, I am just always surprised that so many people revolve around somebodies empty life. Celebrity life seems to almost rule the headlines, and that is sad, imo.

I, for one, would like to see a new breed of musician that is NOT a copycat clone, made to sell records and sacrifice actual talent for marketability. The market is flooded with too many no talent ass clowns. Seems that it is all a case of re-hash. Britney is set, she could drop out now and never look back, I will still work for a living. I don't care what she is doing or what is is fouling up. If more people had that mindset, we wouldn't give a crap. Youtube is FULL of people doing stupid things and performing badly, that is entertainment enough for me.

[tutusue]

[...]I, for one, would like to see a new breed of musician that is NOT a copycat clone, [...]
For me that's 3rd place AIer, Melinda Doolittle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Doolittle).

[Mike_Lowery]

With the VMAs happening close to the date that Kanye West's "Graduation" was released in stores (it was released on rapidshare and zshare a couple months ago), many people are wondering why Britney Spears got to open the popular awards show. Well, Kanye will be around for several more years, selling several million more CDs. MTV was doing the music industry a favor and killing off an era of teen/ 20-something pop stars from the late '90s to early 2000's.

I have not watched MTV since leaving college in 2005, in protest that the channel actually be of substance to garner my attention, but I applaud their choice to end Britney's career this past weekend. Inducing her backstage meltdown after her performance will hopefully resurrect hip-hop, and induce a maturation process for Britney. Hopefully now she will have time to ensure that her kids (plural?) are properly restrained in a car seat, get back in shape, and find a decent husband.

Hip-hop forever!

[tikiyaki]

With the VMAs happening close to the date that Kanye West's "Graduation" was released in stores (it was released on rapidshare and zshare a couple months ago), many people are wondering why Britney Spears got to open the popular awards show. Well, Kanye will be around for several more years, selling several million more CDs. MTV was doing the music industry a favor and killing off an era of teen/ 20-something pop stars from the late '90s to early 2000's.

I have not watched MTV since leaving college in 2005, in protest that the channel actually be of substance to garner my attention, but I applaud their choice to end Britney's career this past weekend. Inducing her backstage meltdown after her performance will hopefully resurrect hip-hop, and induce a maturation process for Britney. Hopefully now she will have time to ensure that her kids (plural?) are properly restrained in a car seat, get back in shape, and find a decent husband.

Hip-hop forever!


What ? "Hopefully resurrect hip hop" ? When did hip hop die ?

The Top 20 is filled with hip hop. Kids wear hip hop, kids speak hip hop. kids act hip hop....That's all there IS is hip hop.

Wat really neds to happen is a resurrection of REAL rock n roll.

That's what MTV is sorely missing. There is LOTS of Hip Hop on MTV.

[TATTRAT]

And what about Kanye's meltdown?

I am a little tired of millionaire moguls, with little more then common beats and has been lyrics complaining about how "the man is holding them down"...hip Hop is more then music, it is now a culture, there is no resurrection needed. All one has to do is look around.

"West, waiting for an elevator in a crowded hallway, began yelling about losing all five categories for which he was nominated, including male artist of the year.
"That's two years in a row, man ... give a black man a chance," said West, stomping around his entourage and directing his comments at a reporter. "I'm trying hard man, I have the ... No. 1 record, man."


People need to grow up.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070910/ap_en_tv/mtv_awards_kanye_west

[Mike_Lowery]

What ? "Hopefully resurrect hip hop" ? When did hip hop die ?

The Top 20 is filled with hip hop. Kids wear hip hop, kids speak hip hop. kids act hip hop....That's all there IS is hip hop.

Wat really neds to happen is a resurrection of REAL rock n roll.

That's what MTV is sorely missing. There is LOTS of Hip Hop on MTV.
MTV plays rap. hip-hop is not the same. hip-hop has not existed since the mid-'90s.

and that's all kids are doing--wearing it, speaking it, acting it--they are not being it.

[Random]

Deborah Gibson never posed in PLAYBOY? I'm sure she has been offered many times as has Britney Spears.
Well, she is pretty ... still.

It's not like Playboy is going to knock on Rosie O'Donnell's door anytime soon. :p

[Random]

I say "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Matthew 7:1
Meh. I'm too old to be a pop star. :D

[Random]

Hip-hop forever!
Meh. I got too much rock n' roll in me. I can only go so far as R&B. ;)

[Karen]

Playboy was mentioned on this thread and just this AM or yesterday's, one of the KSSK phone-in, Hollywood reporters said that poor Brittany recently contacted Playboy and said that she is finally ready to do the magazine, as they'd offered her years ago and told her she could "write her own paycheck" in the deal.

Playboy said "no thanks!" reportedly. :eek:

[Random]

Playboy was mentioned on this thread and just this AM or yesterday's, one of the KSSK phone-in, Hollywood reporters said that poor Brittany recently contacted Playboy and said that she is finally ready to do the magazine, as they'd offered her years ago and told her she could "write her own paycheck" in the deal.

Playboy said "no thanks!" reportedly. :eek:
Sighs.

Seriously, somebody need to stage an intervention for her.

[tikiyaki]

MTV plays rap. hip-hop is not the same. hip-hop has not existed since the mid-'90s.

and that's all kids are doing--wearing it, speaking it, acting it--they are not being it.

Mike, c'mon. Hip Hop is an evolving genre. Because it has evolved into to a version of itself that you don't like, doesn't mean it's not hip hop.

Maybe the version of it now is not to your liking, or maybe it's become pop culture, so it's no longer "hip hop" in your eyes.

I had the first RUN-DMC record when it came out. To me, THAT'S HIP HOP.
Kurtis Blow, Whodini, LL COOL J...but that's almost 25 years ago. I'll take any of those guys over what is now called Hip Hop.

But that's just me. I personally "checked out" on Hip Hop when I NWA started talking about killing cops and ushered in "Gangsta Rap".

That was the end of it for me.

To say kids aren't "being" hip hop is a broad sweep. There are lots of people "being" hip hop. Just not the version of it you like.

Hip Hop is currently so big, it has no choice but to eat itself. Which it will eventually do.

[scrivener]

I saw a few clips last night and DANG. I think she looked HOT. Hotter than I've ever seen her.

[Leo Lakio]

Please note: in all of this discussion, and particularly in my dissing of Ms. Spears talents as an entertainer, not once have I commented on the evolution of her bodily appearance. I understand the public obsession with this aspect - that's what feeds the celebrity image beast. I just don't find body image as relevant to those who make their living as singers.

Think of Ann Wilson of Heart (who just released her first solo album this week, btw.) She was svelte during Heart's initial late-'70s heyday; since then, she has grown large. She's still an amazingly good singer, and I don't really care whether she's petite or momona. Same with Linda Ronstadt.

So - an opportunity to support ericncyn's "double standard" comments: are there any male singers who you feel had their careers wither away due to changes in their body image?

[GeckoGeek]

She makes over 700K a month,

From what?

And what level of living is she used to? Her "poverty level" that forces her to re-invent herself my come at a higher level then the rest of us.

[joshuatree]

From what?

And what level of living is she used to? Her "poverty level" that forces her to re-invent herself my come at a higher level then the rest of us.

I think she has a successful line of perfume for one.

[sinjin]

So Letterman comes on last night and says,"Did anyone see the VMA awards the other night? Didn't Kirstie Alley look great?":D

[tvguy]

So - an opportunity to support ericncyn's "double standard" comments: are there any male singers who you feel had their careers wither away due to changes in their body image?

On a similar note- Did Dr. Dre look like he's on steroids now? He was so big it looked like he was wearing the pre-Vili UH Football Warrior mascot's outfit! Or even Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon as Hans & Franz.

[lavagal]

So Letterman comes on last night and says,"Did anyone see the VMA awards the other night? Didn't Kirstie Alley look great?":D

I'd laugh but my thighs would take revenge on me.

[tutusue]

[...]She makes over 700K a month, so if she has no career left she'll be fine if she just won't blow it all on partying,[...]
I don't know how current that $700K/mo. figure is but she makes and will continue to make money off her past recordings. If...and that's a BIG IF!...she employs a reputable financial planner then, yes, she's probably set for life. That could mean, tho', a lifestyle less ostentacious than she's used to living. Some people would rather die than backpedal.
[...]So - an opportunity to support ericncyn's "double standard" comments: are there any male singers who you feel had their careers wither away due to changes in their body image?
The first male name that comes to mind is the late Luther Vandross and his see-saw weight issues. However, his career didn't wither away because of it. Unfortunately, his health did. Whatta voice.

My guess is if the Brit is willing to walk away from work for a few years for the sole purpose of devoting time to her kids AND she puts honest effort into staying out of the limelight, she'll eventually be able to resume her career enveloped by public forgiveness and acceptance. Unfortunately the limelight appears to be an addiction. Possibly the question then becomes...can her pop tart voice sustain the career of a more mature woman? Personally I don't see an ability to reinvent herself over the years such as Madonna's done because, imnsho, Brittney's talent is just too limited.

I'd really love to be a fly on the wall in a room that contains her agent, manager and financial team. They all must be wincing as they watch a huge chunk of their income go right down the drain.

[MatildaRose]

Could the same be said for Elvis? His weight didn't fluctuate (once he obtained huge, he stayed huge, for the most part). But the cause of the weight gain and the inability to control it were due in large part to his substance abuse. Obviously, his health suffered, but his career didn't suffer because of it. Elvis will always be king!

[DiverDown808]

Ok, normally I wouldn't laugh at someone who was in tears and begging for someone to stop doing what they were doing................but man, I couldn't stop laughing at this.

*warning* There's foul language in this video clip, so send the kiddies to their rooms and turn the speakers down.

Enjoy :D

DD

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE !!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)

[1stwahine]

Mental Illness is TREATABLE!;)

Once again.

Open dee bottle. Take out dee pill. Put in dee mouth and swallow with wata!:p

Auntie Pupule

[craigwatanabe]

I'm thinking that because of the way Britney Spears dressed herself up to her present form, her outfits (or lack thereof) helped define her role as a sex symbol along with her provocative dance steps/moves.

That said I would imagine that her losing that svelt body would have a direct impact on her popularity because she wanted the world to judge her by her physical appearance. Otherwise she wouldn't have made provocative videos or songs. She exploited sex as a vehicle for stardom and now that vehicle is losing steam.

But hey if Cher and Madonna can do it, so can Britney, Beyonce, Shakira and the host of other hip gyrators who tantalize the MTV world with their bodies.

I guess that phrase holds true here: If you got it...flaunt it. But make sure you got a good financial adviser when you lose what you got.:(

[Karen]

Sue, past recordings alone surely wouldn't give her the income of over 700K a month, but she was once reportedly worth even 150Mil, so if she invested a lot of whatever her best worth was, wisely....she's making that on the investments and any piddly recordings. I read that figure very recently and it was said to be a current estimate.

[Leo Lakio]

NY Daily News (a most reputable publication, to be sure:rolleyes:) says this:

Her average monthly income is a whopping $737,868, according to court documents filed by ex-hubby Kevin Federline, who's seeking custody of their young sons Sean Preston, 23 months, and Jayden James, 11 months.

K-Fed himself is receiving spousal support of $20,000 per month, according to the documents obtained by TMZ.com. Unfortunately for him, checks for Brit's baby daddy dry up Nov. 15.

"[Spears] is clearly the 'monied party' in this case," Federline attorney Mark Kaplan said in the heavily redacted filing.

The power lawyer, who's been handing out subpoenas left and right to Spears' associates, went on to request that the singer pony up $50,000 for her ex's legal expenses.

Child welfare authorities are investigating allegations that under Spears' watch, her tots have poor dental hygiene, a questionable diet and erratic sleeping schedules.

[Random]

I saw a few clips last night and DANG. I think she looked HOT. Hotter than I've ever seen her.
Yeah, if you see her on the dance floor, not on stage at VMA. Maybe Club Hubba Hubba, but not VMA.

[Random]

I'd laugh but my thighs would take revenge on me.
If your thighs can actually choke your neck, I'd be impressed. :eek:

[Random]

Could the same be said for Elvis? His weight didn't fluctuate (once he obtained huge, he stayed huge, for the most part). But the cause of the weight gain and the inability to control it were due in large part to his substance abuse. Obviously, his health suffered, but his career didn't suffer because of it. Elvis will always be king!
Yeah, but I prefer the pictures of the younger, skinnier Elvis.

The same goes for Ann Wilson of Heart, and most recently Britney (the "Oh, Baby" period).

[lavagal]

If your thighs can actually choke your neck, I'd be impressed. :eek:

Hey, dude, 4 years of yoga.

[Random]

Hey, dude, 4 years of yoga.
Obviously you really don't need a man. :p

[cynsaligia]

pardon the meandering musings....

i've been hearing brit's new song on the radio now and again (if you haven't heard it--it's very sad). i also own christina aguilera's newest cd set.

i know some lump britney spears in with christina aguilera. they're both blond, of the same generation, were concurrent mouseketeers, and were part of the pop explosion of the late nineties. however, i think their (un?)conscious viewpoints about the power inherent in being a woman and what womanhood means informs their success or failures.

britney squandered the power she had, not having a full understanding or appreciation of that power. christina, despite her "dirrty" past, has kept a lot of her power. i think a lot of you would agree that, over the years, christina's image has been a lot more provocative (skanky, if you will) than britney's has. britney seems to have gone through her career being led around by her parents and other handlers. on the other hand, christina willfully rebelled against her record label after having initially been sold as the next mariah carey with a more wholesome image than britney. i don't remember any of britney's songs being about issues like abuse or the unfairness of how women still suffer a double standard, but some of christina's songs have. both women were "passed the torch" from madonna via a kiss. most of you remember the kiss madge and brit shared; not the one between xtina and madge, right?

but only one had the true understanding of what madonna's real skill was. it was to push and test boundaries as to what a female artist/celebrity could or should or would do--in terms of marketing herself or making political/artistic statements (or making statements not so profound) and yet still be accepted and respected, both in the still largely male-dominated music world, and in american society in general.

anyway, madonnna once did a duet with britney. i wonder if madonna watched brit's performance at the recent VMAs and what she thought. also, will she ever do a duet with christina? in terms of raw singing talent (evita notwithstanding), christina's pipes blow madonna's away like a category five hurricane does a palm tree.

[Random]

Well, there was a time where I didn't care for Christina in her post "Genie in the Bottle" skank phase.

But she grew up and cleaned up. I like her now.

I'm just wondering when Britney is going to finally cleaned herself up from her now-skank phase.

[nikki]

I love Aguilera, always have. There's no comparison with Britney. Britney and her music have never grown up. Aguilera keeps evolving and trying new things.

[infinitypro]

And the story just gets sadder (http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/01/britney-spears-has-lost-her-kids/).

[Lei Liko]

And the story just gets sadder (http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/01/britney-spears-has-lost-her-kids/).

Sadder for her, yes.

The kids will most likely miss their mommy, and they don't know this yet, but IMO...the judge did them a favor.

I'm no FedEx fan myself, but at this point, he's definitely the lesser of two evils.

[infinitypro]

Sadder for her, yes.

The kids will most likely miss their mommy, and they don't know this yet, but IMO...the judge did them a favor.

I'm no FedEx fan myself, but at this point, he's definitely the lesser of two evils.

I agree.

The unraveling of her life for all of us to view is just sad. Ultimately, it's her choices that have caused the turmoil in her life.

[Leo Lakio]

he's definitely the lesser of two evils.Shame when the kids only get "evils" to be raised by. They are certainly both "lessers." Poor kids. Maybe someone will be sure they get raised out of the spotlight; they might have a fighting chance then.

[Lei Liko]

Shame when the kids only get "evils" to be raised by. They are certainly both "lessers." Poor kids. Maybe someone will be sure they get raised out of the spotlight; they might have a fighting chance then.

A-freaking-men.

Those kids have been photographed by the paps in their short lives more than notable celebs out there...and they're not even potty trained yet!

It's disgusting how Brit and K-Fed never put much thought in how their outrageous behavior reflected on the kids. It is my sincere hope that there's someone out there who will be a positive role model to SPF and JJ. I see their pictures in the tabloids and my heart really goes out to them. I don't know if I've ever seen a photo of them smiling and happy. Every kid deserves that.

[Miulang]

A-freaking-men.

Those kids have been photographed by the paps in their short lives more than notable celebs out there...and they're not even potty trained yet!

It's disgusting how Brit and K-Fed never put much thought in how their outrageous behavior reflected on the kids. It is my sincere hope that there's someone out there who will be a positive role model to SPF and JJ. I see their pictures in the tabloids and my heart really goes out to them. I don't know if I've ever seen a photo of them smiling and happy. Every kid deserves that.
Contrast that with how Dannielynn Hope Smith is being raised by her daddy, Larry Birkhead. I've only seen her once on Larry King and she is being raised in TN, I think, away from the Hollywood paparazzi.

Miulang

[Leo Lakio]

It is my sincere hope that there's someone out there who will be a positive role model to SPF and JJ. I see their pictures in the tabloids and my heart really goes out to them.Part of me wants to tease you about the fact that (a) you know the kids' names (or at least their initials) - which is more than I do, since I think they ought to be kept private; and (b) that you admit to reading the tabloids - yet you don't seem to be too fond of the paps; the first supports the second, y'know.

But only part of me. So I won't. Cause I like ya, and we're in agreement here - and I know YOU know my teasing you about it is entirely good-natured. :p

At least, I HOPE you know that. You do now, right?

[Lei Liko]

Part of me wants to tease you about the fact that (a) you know the kids' names (or at least their initials) - which is more than I do, since I think they ought to be kept private; and (b) that you admit to reading the tabloids - yet you don't seem to be too fond of the paps; the first supports the second, y'know.

But only part of me. So I won't. Cause I like ya, and we're in agreement here - and I know YOU know my teasing you about it is entirely good-natured. :p

At least, I HOPE you know that. You do now, right?

Tease me all you like, LL. :p It's no secret that TMZ.com's a daily must-read for me. I don't know what intrigues me so much about celebrity trainwrecks. I suppose it's because lots of us like knowing that the celeb life isn't always the glamorous life and that they're human and have issues too. Some more than others. It's not that I'm not too fond of the paps because if I were really against them, I wouldn't be watching shows like Entertainment Tonight and reading garbage like People and US Weekly. Their belief in using force by any means necessary to get that money shot I don't agree with, though.

I guess I draw the line when it comes to the kids. They don't need to be in the spotlight. Except for Suri Cruise because she's just so effing adorable. ;)

[Leo Lakio]

http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2007/10/128340601289062500leavebritney.jpg (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/10/03/leave-britney-alone/)

[tutusue]

Contrast that with how Dannielynn Hope Smith is being raised by her daddy, Larry Birkhead. I've only seen her once on Larry King and she is being raised in TN, I think, away from the Hollywood paparazzi.

Miulang
There was a lot of tv coverage of DHS's first birthday party on ET and possibly elsewhere. Regardless, there seems to be a concerted effort to keep her out of the limelight...THANK GOD. I hope...and it appears...that Larry Birkhead has the child's best interests at heart. Dannielynn, like Suri Cruise, is a stunningly beautiful baby.

The Spears-Federline spawn are absolutely adorable and what a shame that their little, vulnerable lives are on display. A train wreck, indeed...

[LikaNui]

There was a lot of tv coverage of DHS's first birthday party on ET and possibly elsewhere. (...) I hope...and it appears...that Larry Birkhead has the child's best interests at heart. I read somewhere that he SOLD the rights to ET for about $500,000, and got another half million from the Enquirer (or something similar to it). So I hope you're right, Tutu, but he sure turned a nice profit from the kid's birthday party.

[tutusue]

I read somewhere that he SOLD the rights to ET for about $500,000, and got another half million from the Enquirer (or something similar to it). So I hope you're right, Tutu, but he sure turned a nice profit from the kid's birthday party.
I'm sorry to see that the Enquirer (or similar) is involved. I actually don't mind him profiting from a story that would be newsworthy anyway. Moving DHS to TN and the lack of day to day media exposure is what leads me to believe that he's at least trying to protect her. There will always be an interest in her so, if the money helps him take care of her, I see nothing wrong with it. I don't know where ANS's estate stands right now and whether or not Birkhead gets a monthly allowance for DHS but, judging by the extravagance of the birthday party, money's coming in from somewhere!! In this case, ET and a rag.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

I was logged on to a news website and saw some clip on the custody results. I was shocked Shocked SHOCKED! at how the camera bulbs were flashing non-stop at her sitting in her car. I cannot imagine that being a daily thing (turn into years) to have to cope with.

If a massacre ever happens where paparazzi dudes get machine-gunned down en masse, I might be able to understand why.

[LikaNui]

An old friend just sent me this link (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272616409.shtml) to a new story about Britney... an unauthorized sex tape made on the Big Island recently. :eek:
Being forced to watch that tape would be what Hell must be like. :p
And the spiral just keeps going down and down. Sad to see... in anyone's life.
:(

[tutusue]

[...]... an unauthorized sex tape made on the Big Island recently. :eek: [...]
Unbelievable? Amazing? Nah, there's really not an appropriate adjective...esp. for the guy's reason for not yet releasing the tape:
So far, the only thing, he claims, holding him back from releasing the video is that he was so disappointed by his own performance, he is embarrassed to let the rest of the world see it!
Maybe he's hoping that talk=money?

[LikaNui]

Finally, the girl gets a break. According to this story (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/04/britneyspears.song.ap/index.html) just posted on CNN:
New Spears song a smash hit
Britney Spears is finally catching a break.
Her new song, "Gimme More," is now a success on the music charts -- despite the pop star's turbulent personal life and the humiliation of her much-panned performance at MTV's Video Music Awards.
This week, "Gimme More" -- released to radio stations in August -- topped Billboard's Hot Digital Songs chart at No. 1 with 179,000 downloads, and jumped from No. 68 to No. 3 on Billboard's Hot 100.
The song is the first single from her new album, set for release November 13.
Jumping from #68 clear up to #3 is very impressive.
Go figure.

[cynsaligia]

An old friend just sent me this link (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272616409.shtml) to a new story about Britney... an unauthorized sex tape made on the Big Island recently. :eek:
Being forced to watch that tape would be what Hell must be like. :p
And the spiral just keeps going down and down. Sad to see... in anyone's life.
:(


eric's coworker told him yesterday that the guy who supposedly did the oofy dance with britney on the big island called in to the morning bomb show on 102.7. according to eric's coworker, as sam da man and the oofy guy laughed about how bad the sex was, rella (sam's female sidekick/co-host) wondered aloud whether it wasn't britney who was bad in bed, but maybe oofy boy instead.

i just think the guy's a complete wad-o-used-toilet paper. what a jerk for taping someone-whether it's someone famous like britney or not-without their knowledge! aren't there laws about surreptitious filming?

*sigh*

[Miulang]

Her next court date is Oct. 26. She's supposed to be in rehab again. I hope she's put on a suicide watch, too. The whacky way she's been acting lately (including going out partying the night before her last hearing, and then not showing up for the custody hearing), just makes her look like one very irresponsible person. I'm just afraid if she can't see her kids she'll go out and do something even more irresponsible...getting pregnant again and having another child to neglect.:(

Miulang

[cynsaligia]

one of the songs off britney's "in the zone" album of 2003 was "everytime." some speculated that it was an apology to justin timberlake for what happened in their relationship. the video itself , which starts off in the chaos of being followed by paparazzi and crazed fans, was a bit controversial because of the suicide scene where britney drowns herself, is shown coding, and then reborn as a baby.

here's the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UQzHaOG2uI).

i'd long wondered whether the song wasn't so much a song for justin as for maybe other people in her life--maybe her parents? it makes me wonder if britney had been crying out for help, even as far back as four years ago. if she was, and no one sane and solid and good was reaching out to her, then it's no wonder she's gone so completely off the deep end now.

i just hope the video isn't a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Lei Liko]

Her next court date is Oct. 26. She's supposed to be in rehab again. I hope she's put on a suicide watch, too. The whacky way she's been acting lately (including going out partying the night before her last hearing, and then not showing up for the custody hearing), just makes her look like one very irresponsible person. I'm just afraid if she can't see her kids she'll go out and do something even more irresponsible...getting pregnant again and having another child to neglect.:(

Miulang

According to People (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20145591,00.html):

The commissioner specified that "a missed [drug] test, refusal to submit to a test, or failure to respond to the testing agency's call ... shall be deemed by the court as a failed test," the documents read. Spears, 25, is still expected to complete twice-weekly random testing for drugs and alcohol.

The article goes on further to state that at no time is she allowed to be alone with any of the boys. Even if she takes a kid to the bathroom, the monitor will be there.

It'll be a miracle if she manages to comply with any of the judge's orders. :rolleyes:

[Random]

It'll be a miracle if she manages to comply with any of the judge's orders. :rolleyes:
You know the saying: once you hit rock-bottom, the only thing you can do is crawl back up.

I hope losing custody of her kids is the wake-up call she need, considering she had so many prior opportunities to do right for herself and for them. If not, then she's a lost cause.

[Lei Liko]

I just gets better and better for them Spears girls.

Britney's 16 year old sister...PREGNANT (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20167059,00.html)

Britney Spears's 16-year-old sister Jamie Lynn Spears is pregnant.

Nickelodeon, which carries her TV show Zoey 101, said in a statement: "We respect Jamie Lynn's decision to take responsibility in this sensitive and personal situation. We know this is a very difficult time for her and her family, and our primary concern right now is for Jamie Lynn's well being."

Spears and her mother confirmed the pregnancy to OK! magazine, saying she was 12 weeks along and the father is Jamie Lynn's longtime boyfriend Casey Aldridge. Aldridge's mother confirmed it to TMZ.com.

I won't even touch on the age thing because we all know that even younger kids are active these days. Is it that hard to pop a pill everyday? To slap on a rubber?

I also wonder if parents will still let their kids watch her show..?

[Random]

I just gets better and better for them Spears girls.

Britney's 16 year old sister...PREGNANT (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20167059,00.html)

I won't even touch on the age thing because we all know that even younger kids are active these days. Is it that hard to pop a pill everyday? To slap on a rubber?

I also wonder if parents will still let their kids watch her show..?
Why? Will she work on the show until she's full term?

Is there still hope for the Simpson sisters (Jessica and Ashlee)?

Is being boring THAT bad? Must they always make headlines?

[Leo Lakio]

To slap on a rubber?I know a lot of ... er, *ahem* ... "creative" ways to put one on, but slapping? I dunno. Ow. ;)

[GeckoGeek]

I also wonder if parents will still let their kids watch her show..?

I wonder if Nickelodeon will continue her show? The quote given didn't indicate. They may be buying time until they know which way the wind is blowing.

[Random]

I know a lot of ... er, *ahem* ... "creative" ways to put one on, but slapping? I dunno. Ow. ;)
If it stops you from making a 9-month mistake, then ... whatever works! :p

[tutusue]

If it stops you from making a 9-month mistake, then ... whatever works! :p
Make that a 20 year mistake!!! One news show reported Jamie Lynn is planning on keeping the baby.

I wouldn't trade places with Lynn Spears for...anything! :eek: I think I'll go hug my 2 daughters!

[Lei Liko]

Make that a 20 year mistake!!! One news show reported Jamie Lynn is planning on keeping the baby.

I wouldn't trade places with Lynn Spears for...anything! :eek: I think I'll go hug my 2 daughters!

I had a haha when I read this: Lynne Spears' parenting book put on hold indefinitely (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jfHA4Pwl0fmSxhV-MVh2CT1MwQpAD8TKOBKG0)

According to this article (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/19/media-frenzy-101-a-kid-tv-star-pregnant-at-16/?hp), the 3rd season is set to finish sometime next month (cliffhanger and all) but the 4th season's already wrapped filming.

I haven't watched Nickelodeon in a long time, but I can't recall of too many TV shows with long shelf lives. Same with the ones on Disney. The kids eventually grow up, lose the cute factor...then pau.

[Random]

Make that a 20 year mistake!!!
It's a 20-year mistake to put on condom? Or get slapped on the ala that sex is not important at the moment? :confused:


One news show reported Jamie Lynn is planning on keeping the baby.
That's good for her. My advice to her: Don't go to your mother or your sister for parenting advice.

[Random]

I haven't watched Nickelodeon in a long time, but I can't recall of too many TV shows with long shelf lives. Same with the ones on Disney. The kids eventually grow up, lose the cute factor...then pau.
Man, I must be so tired today. I thought you typed "...then porn."

[tutusue]

It's a 20-year mistake to put on condom? Or get slapped on the ala that sex is not important at the moment? :confused:
Nah...that wasn't what I meant at all. It appears I failed to get my point across. My bad.
That's good for her. My advice to her: Don't go to your mother or your sister for parenting advice.
Good advice!

[LikaNui]

Nah...that wasn't what I meant at all. It appears I failed to get my point across. My bad. Not true. I, for one, got that you meant that having a baby is a 20-year commitment (until the baby reaches adulthood), not just 9 months (term of pregnancy).
Do I win a cookie? If so, please don't slap it on me! :p

Back to the thread -- I haven't really followed the story, but since Britney's pregnant sister is only 16 years old and therefore a minor, why hasn't the boyfriend been arrested for RAPE?!? :confused:

[Random]

Nah...that wasn't what I meant at all. It appears I failed to get my point across. My bad.
It would be a 20-year-old mistake if she decided to abort the baby, but that's my personal opinion.

Glad that she's stepping up to be a parent.

[Random]

Back to the thread -- I haven't really followed the story, but since Britney's pregnant sister is only 16 years old and therefore a minor, why hasn't the boyfriend been arrested for RAPE?!? :confused:
Depends on what state they did the deed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in Hawai'i, the minimum age of consent is 16.

[tutusue]

Not true. I, for one, got that you meant that having a baby is a 20-year commitment (until the baby reaches adulthood), not just 9 months (term of pregnancy).
Ding...ding...ding!
Do I win a cookie? If so, please don't slap it on me! :p
Okay. Good thing 'cuz I had one of these (http://store.drsoda.com/pefapimich.html) in mind?
:D
Back to the thread -- I haven't really followed the story, but since Britney's pregnant sister is only 16 years old and therefore a minor, why hasn't the boyfriend been arrested for RAPE?!? :confused:
As Random mentioned, it depends on the state and, as I understand it, can also depend on the age difference between the 2 young people involved.

[Lei Liko]

Britney on 72 hour mental lockdown (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20169347,00.html)

The girl refused to give up the boys after her scheduled visitation was over and apparently locked herself in a room with the youngest boy. She was wheeled out of her home in a gurney and rushed to Cedars-Sinai because cops say she was under the influence of an unknown substance.

I don't know how many times I've said it already, but I can't help but feel sadness for the boys. They certainly don't deserve to have to go through this.

[Random]

Sighs.

Maybe spending time in prison would be good for her, especially in a support group of inmate mothers.

[tutusue]

Is she becoming the next Anna Nicole Smith and will it take her just as long to arrive at the same destination? What, another 13-14 years of abusing her body? :(

I agree with Lei Liko. Those 2 beautiful little guys didn't ask to be born into such dysfunction.