Dieting and Staying Healthy!

[1stwahine]

K-den. On the Dinner thread, I started the derailing.

I apologize.

So here's a thread foa Dieting and Staying HEALTHY!:D

I mean same page as far as yielding results from better eating habits (I refuse to use that other four-letter word). I would not LIKE to stop eating certain foods altogether, but if that's what it takes then I guess I would just have to do it.

heheheh

It's going to be a battle foa me. I love Food and Food loves me! After all, I'm a Cook and a Book Book! LOL One day at a time. It can be done. On this thread let's share what we're doing. On the other threads we can put down wat we eating. If you cheat, you only cheat yourself. ha ha ha ha

Good luck!!

Auntie Lynn

[woodman]

I'm thinking to eat brown rice on or twice a week. More vegetables, more fish and less meat & white rice.

[CranBeree]

eat what you enjoy but moderation is key.

[Pomai]

double post. Disregard.

[Pomai]

triple post! Disregard!

[Pomai]

From the "What's For Dinner" thread...

Well, I've been sorta on a "weight management" plan (don't like the term "diet" either!) this year. I cut portion sizes and try to make better choices (but that's hard for me because I am so picky and do not like vegetables!) I also started walking. I have lost 42lbs so far this year. I intend to lose more...That is awesome! Congratulations! Is that you in your Avatar? If so, you don't look like you need to lose anymore. ;)

I'm a weekend warrior when it comes to food decadence. On Saturdays and Sundays, ribs, steaks & burgers all have a place on my grill and in my heart. That's also the time I get all the "good stuff" to blog about.

But on the weekdays, I try to be a "good boy". Oatmeal and fruit for breakfast. Cottage Cheese or an Avocado (the good fat!) for lunch, alternating with either S&S Saimin or a Tuna Sandwich. And usually a small bento with a fish entree (like Saba) for dinner. For snacking, I like to simply nibble on a carrot, boiled peanuts or edamame (steamed soy beans). And I find all these things just as satisfying as steaks, ribs and burgers, just in a different way. You feel cleaner and more alert. Not so weighted-down.

Quite honestly, I could lose about 20 lbs. to get me closer to my high school weight, which then I was very lean (into bodybuilding). Gotta' hit the beach more often. I went swimming today! :)

I know a guy who lost over 100 lbs. through diet and exercise. He told me the secret to his success was NO SNACKS. He said chips, candy and other stuff like that (even mochi crunch) is no good if you're serious about losing weight.

I see you... put down those Doritos! :eek:

[lavagal]

I'm on Nutrasystem. Kickin' and screamin'! I'm a cook, too, so this is such an effort for me. I had some backsliding last week, so I'm trying to get back on the program. I do well, then if my kid doesn't finish something, I finish that, too. So that's not so good. I'm half way to my goal. I actually take the dinner entrees to work. On average they are 260 calories a serving. There are things like whipped sweet potatoes with cheese, mashed potatoes with brocoli, pasta cups, and things like chili and beans, minestrone soup, pasta cacciatori, pasta and beef. For breakfast there are powdered egg cups that I prepare and add salsa to for flavor; and there are lots of envelopes to make single servings of pancakes: chocolate chip, blueberry or plain. I don't have time to make pancakes!

I think the Nutrasystem method relies heavily on the bean-carbo combo and high protein counts and so my kids get a kick out of toot-toots in the evening. :rolleyes: You supply your own fruits and veggies. They provide toppings for on salads, too, such as turkey chunks in balsamic vinegar or chicken chunks in Thousand Island dressing (not even close to mayo-ketchup-relish). Overall, they've done a good job of improving the flavors. Spicy is pretty spicy as in the chili and New Orleans' style chicken-sausage combo.

I also get up at 3:40 each morning to work out at the Hawaii Kai 24HF. I'm home by 4:55 and I am out of the house by 5:30 to catch the express bus to town. You should see me at 2 p.m. SCARY. Why can't corporate Hawaii see the benefit of an afternoon siesta?

[kanahina]

From the "What's For Dinner" thread...

That is awesome! Congratulations! Is that you in your Avatar? If so, you don't look like you need to lose anymore. ;)

:eek:

Well... the head is mine (from a few years back...) and the body belongs to Angelina Jolie (from the Mr & Mrs Smith film poster) ahh the wonders of PhotoShop!

Weekends are hard for me too because we go out as a family and stuff...

But on the weekdays, I usually eat a breakfast bar for both breakfast and lunch, try not to snack, drink alot of water, try to walk on the treadmill, and eat a moderate dinner with the family. I also have cut down on coke, which i think made a difference too. I don't buy it to keep at home anymore, so I just have it when we eat out... Oh yeah, I stopped drinking chocolate milk too... I don't really know much facts about nutrition and stuff, but it seemed kinda like a catch-22 with this. I mean, milk has vitamins and calcium (healthy stuff), right? But chocolate milk has more fat, right? i don't drink white milk so i just stopped drinking milk completely.

[lavagal]

If you are drinking store-bought chocolate milk, then it's usually lowfat or nonfat. If you make it at home, then you should be in control of what the fat content is in your milk.

[kanahina]

If you are drinking store-bought chocolate milk, then it's usually lowfat or nonfat. If you make it at home, then you should be in control of what the fat content is in your milk.

It's the store bought lowfat kind... but I figured I could just skip it all together and that would be that many less calories for me. I drink water instead so no calories is better than some calories...

[Kalei99]

I'm on Nutrasystem. Kickin' and screamin'! I'm a cook, too, so this is such an effort for me. I had some backsliding last week, so I'm trying to get back on the program. I do well, then if my kid doesn't finish something, I finish that, too. So that's not so good. I'm half way to my goal...

If you can stick with the Nutrisystem, do! It really works. I lost 40 lbs with Nutrisystem and Exercise in 3 months. It's not easy to stick with it, but it worked for me. I weaned off after 3 months and started eating the right foods.

I've been able to keep the weight off for 3 years now by eating in moderation and continuing with my exercise. The key was to lose the weight in the beginning and jump my motabolism. It has helped me change my life! ;)

[1stwahine]

I was up this morning exercising on my Rollerblade machine. Actually, I was screaming! "Oweeeeee! Oh! My leg!" :eek: I took it slow, made it through the grumblings and moomoo leg.heheheh Wat a sweat.

Made a cup of hot tea and moa sweat came out.:p

I got alot wata in me das foa shua.

HAHAHAHAHA

Auntie Lynn

[nikki]

I gained 15 pounds this year! I've been up and down the scale since my teens. Just as I reach my goal weight, I'm shoving the food back in again. :(

[lavagal]

If you can stick with the Nutrisystem, do! It really works. I lost 40 lbs with Nutrisystem and Exercise in 3 months. It's not easy to stick with it, but it worked for me. I weaned off after 3 months and started eating the right foods.

I've been able to keep the weight off for 3 years now by eating in moderation and continuing with my exercise. The key was to lose the weight in the beginning and jump my motabolism. It has helped me change my life! ;)

Thanks, Kalei. I have a brain block on the spelling. When I first submitted I put an S at the end of the name, haha. That's what 26 years in Hawaii does to you, LOL.
Three weeks ago I started at the 24HF in Hawaii Kai. It is not easy to get out of bed as early as I do, but once I'm getting my exercise clothing on, I'm amping to get over there and to get it done with. I had new music this morning, too, so that helped. "They call me the breeze...I keep blowin' down the road..." it's amazing how music can distract you just enough to help you zone out. I have no idea what some of the stuff I have is..."This transmission is coming to you....Roger, you are go..." so it's a trip, but it keeps me going!

I want to be an AFTER!

[Fat Jeff]

Boy do I know this topic. Over the years I've lost and gained back hundreds of pounds. But this year has been different. I've lost 65 pounds and am still going. The how is simple, but doing it has been the challenge. We already know what is and isn't good for us...just a matter of being "good-er" than "bad-er". And exercise...it's absolutely necessary. My personal changes have been, no "white food" in quantity (white rice, white flour, pasta, sugar) and 1 hour of cardio exercise 5-6 times a week plus weight training 2-3 times a week. The only thing that has derailed me has been an injury that has kept my workouts scattered for the last month (which I re-tweaked this weekend gunfunit!).

I've also been getting lots of encouragement from this websites podcasts...
motivationtomove.com

Good luck to any and all on this path too...

[lavagal]

Boy do I know this topic. Over the years I've lost and gained back hundreds of pounds. But this year has been different. I've lost 65 pounds and am still going. The how is simple, but doing it has been the challenge. We already know what is and isn't good for us...just a matter of being "good-er" than "bad-er". And exercise...it's absolutely necessary. My personal changes have been, no "white food" in quantity (white rice, white flour, pasta, sugar) and 1 hour of cardio exercise 5-6 times a week plus weight training 2-3 times a week. The only thing that has derailed me has been an injury that has kept my workouts scattered for the last month (which I re-tweaked this weekend gunfunit!).

I've also been getting lots of encouragement from this websites podcasts...
motivationtomove.com

Good luck to any and all on this path too...


Way to go, Jeff! Keep up the gooooooood work!

[woodman]

It is indeed hard when you have to cook for everybody.

PLUS, when I see it left over, I figure if I don't eat it then it's only going to be left to rot, and that is a waste. I've seen it happen.

Sunday dinner was steak.
Monday breakfast was steak sandwich. Dinner was Lasagna.
Today breakfast was 2 piece chicken, kim chee, chow fun, bean sprouts from the okazu-ya.

Dinner is spaghetti & meatballs (beer cocktails; Foster's).

...baby steps.

[kanahina]

I've lost 65 pounds and am still going.
Good luck to any and all on this path too...

Woo-hoo that's awesome! Good for you!

[Kalei99]

. My personal changes have been, no "white food" in quantity (white rice, white flour, pasta, sugar) and 1 hour of cardio exercise 5-6 times a week plus weight training 2-3 times a week. ...

I absolutely agree. It's tough to do, but the "no white" philiosophy really works. I still eat them...but in moderate portions. I try to eat more fruits and vegetables and I've replaced my pastas with either wheat or multi-grain.

There's a good book that I've read called Superfoods (http://www.amazon.com/SuperFoods-Rx-Fourteen-Foods-Change/dp/0060535679). I try to incorporate the 14 items in the book into most of my meals.

Congrats on all the weight loss! :D

[1stwahine]

Congratulations Jeff!

As foa me, I am struggling.:o

I had a rough night. I wanted to eat a Banana Royal so bad. Anything with chocolate would have stop my craving but P.K. neva give in. Den I wanted a Roast Beef Sandwich which could have easily been made. Once again P.K. refused. I was MAD! He gave me carrot and celery sticks instead. And a cup of Apple juice. I wanted to shove the sticks in his face and throw the juice up his nostrils. But I didn't.heheheh

In a few minutes I'll be doing my Rollerblade exercises.;)

Have a Great and Healthy Day!:)

Auntie Lynn

[oceanpacific]

Cannot forget the exercise routine in conjunction with the diet.

Forbidden foods:

GRACE'S INN - BBQ pork spare ribs;
IGE'S - shoyu pork;
breakfast meats - Spam; bacon; link sausage.

Last night, I went to Flamingo's and ordered saute'ed mahi.

[cynsaligia]

If you are drinking store-bought chocolate milk, then it's usually lowfat or nonfat. If you make it at home, then you should be in control of what the fat content is in your milk.

It's the store bought lowfat kind... but I figured I could just skip it all together and that would be that many less calories for me. I drink water instead so no calories is better than some calories...


if i understand correctly, the problem with chocolate milk, whether low fat or non-fat, is how much sugar there is in comparison with plain low fat or non fat millk. take a look sometime.

my solution, if i wanted chocolate milk, was to mix some unsweetened cocoa powder, like hershey's, along with a little splenda, into non fat milk.

additionally, for those of you chocoholics, i say forbear all mainstream chocolate (hershey's, nestle's, godiva, even!), all of which have little cacao and plaaaaaany sugar. try chocolate that has higher cacao content, like 50% or 60% or even 89%--they're readily available even in gas station stores but cost $3.00 versus less than a dollar for the mainstream chocolate stuff. the flavor is richer, more intense, and if you're like me, one or two inches worth of that stuff will satisfy in ways that a couple of king sized snickers bars never could. i mean, doesn't 74% dark chocolate with chilies & nibs or 74% dark chocolate, berries and vanilla or even a chai flavored organic milk chocolate sound so much better than plain old sugary milk chocolate with crisp rice?

aaaaaaaaaack! i was gonna provide links to those chocolate flavors from dagoba (http://www.dagobachocolate.com/closed.asp) but their online store is closed for now. bleh!

[1stwahine]

I so want a Iced Mocha from StarBucks.:o

Alas, all I have is my water.

It's HARD!!!:(

But I'm doing it.:p

HAHAHAHAHA

Auntie Lynn

[Honoruru]

It is hard! But stay with it, Auntie. You can do it!

[shaveice]

I so want a Iced Mocha from StarBucks.:o



i don't remember who it was but there was a comedian on tv who said something like, "let's call it what it is: a MILKSHAKE!" ha! ha! :D

[anapuni808]

I so want a Iced Mocha from StarBucks.:o

Alas, all I have is my water.

It's HARD!!!:(

But I'm doing it.:p

HAHAHAHAHA

Auntie Lynn

Lynn - if you want an Iced Mocha, then go get one! but, have them make it with non fat milk and use splenda or equal to sweeten it. You get what you want with no fat, no sugar and very few calories. Best of both worlds.

If you constantly deprive yourself, you won't last on your diet - thats a proven fact. There are ways to eat healthy and still be able to enjoy treats. Ask your Dr. to send you to a Nutritionist to learn HOW to eat. There is a magazine called "Cooking Light" that teaches you how to cook your favorite recipes but cuts the calories/fat in them.

and if you think I don't know what I'm talking about, then we need to talk privately. You might just be surprised.

[1stwahine]

Lynn - if you want an Iced Mocha, then go get one! but, have them make it with non fat milk and use splenda or equal to sweeten it. You get what you want with no fat, no sugar and very few calories. Best of both worlds.

and if you think I don't know what I'm talking about, then we need to talk privately. You might just be surprised.

Sis Fran, It's not that easy foa me. I have other problems. Instead of one, I like two and so forth. I end up eating one of the delicious desserts. I know you know wat you talking about. I have my own Diet Plan which I follow and it works...I do lose the pounds. The reason I gained it all back, I went off it and I stopped smoking.:p

Love Ya!

Lynn

[Pomai]

In regard to exercise, one thing to keep in mind is to regularly stretch your body to keep it flexible. Especially for your back. Doing this can prevent potential joint, ligament and/or muscle injury and will make your exercising more efficient.

I strained my back a few years ago from neglecting stretching and overall bad sleeping posture. Ever since then, I stretch out daily.

With legs straight and knees locked, I can touch my toes! I should work on reaching there with my palms. ;)

[woodman]

Did my wishbone stretch today.

More brown rice w/bai chai & chicken. Had manapua pork hash & 2 half moon, too.

That'll keep me til dinner.

[Pomai]

Here's a pretty good news article published today about the effects of diet and cancer...

What to eat and what to avoid to cut cancer risk (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21251834/)
Fill your diet with veggies, fiber, vitamin D and calcium to prevent disease

When it comes to the question of whether you'll get cancer, it often seems that your fate is a mysterious combination of factors beyond your control. We all know someone who smoked, drank and ate bacon every day yet escaped a diagnosis. And far more disheartening, we also know people who lived a virtuously healthy life only to develop the disease. Add to that the confusion over what actually is the right way to avoid the Big C. In fact, three in four people believe there are so many recommendations about preventing breast, colon, lung and other cancers that it's hard to know which guidelines to follow.This is so true. I know (or knew) folks on both sides of this equation.

[i-hungry]

What works for me is to learn how to cook healthy and very tasty food. Sometimes I'll take a break and not cook but the consistency keeps me on track as far as weight and health goes.

Keep portions "medium size". Too much of any kind of food isn't good either.

Working out helps a lot too. I'm so lazy compared to my youth but I'm still active most of the time. Even if its more mellow type of exercise.

[kanahina]

I am bummed :( - I had to work overtime every day last week and was unable to walk on the treadmill ... Hopefully, this week will be better ...

[tutusue]

Boy do I know this topic. Over the years I've lost and gained back hundreds of pounds. But this year has been different. I've lost 65 pounds and am still going.[...]
WHOA! High 5 to you! It's time to change your screen name, FJ! :D
I so want a Iced Mocha from StarBucks.:o[...]
i don't remember who it was but there was a comedian on tv who said something like, "let's call it what it is: a MILKSHAKE!" ha! ha! :D
I could be wrong but I think Iced Mochas and Frappachino's are different. IMs are more slushy, I think. Frapps are milkshake consistency and better than any milkshake I've ever had. Oh wait...while on vacation last week, one of the resort's bartenders made a "Mango Float". OMG!...to die for. It's his recipe and it contains rum but since I managed to devour one at lunch each day...to the exclusion of food!...I ordered the virgin version! <ggg>

Auntie...since you're creative in the kitchen I bet you could come up with a healthier version of the iced mocha that would still satifsy your craving. Splenda based syrups (Torino and Da Vinci) are a huge help.

[Fat Jeff]

Originally Posted by tutusue View Post
Boy do I know this topic. Over the years I've lost and gained back hundreds of pounds. But this year has been different. I've lost 65 pounds and am still going.[...]
WHOA! High 5 to you! It's time to change your screen name, FJ!

That 65 brought me from "Measure that man for a coffin Fat Jeff" to simply "Fat Jeff". Ask me again in another 80 pounds and I'll be ready to drop the "Fat".

Originally Posted by 1stwahine View Post
I so want a Iced Mocha from StarBucks.[...]

Auntie Lynn, try order a "Light Mocha". As I understand it they use non-fat milk and sugar free syrup. Another alternative is a "Non-Fat Sugar Free Vanilla Latte"...it's a mouthful to order but it takes care of my sweet craving at about 180 calories for a venti (large) size.

[GregLee]

This is so true. I know (or knew) folks on both sides of this equation.
The evidence accepted in conventional medicine for good effects of diet and exercise, to the extent there is any, is statistical. The best you can hope for is to improve your odds, and what has happened in individual cases doesn't show anything, one way or the other. My gastroenterologist, who does my colonoscopies, recommended 1200mg/day calcium supplement on the strength of a study showing it reduces the number of pre-cancerous colon polyps (in a patient population). That was good enough for me, and I take it, but I'm not going to be shocked if I get colon cancer despite the calcium. I still need luck.

[titilejomi]

This is kind of interesting:

Hawaii has the lowest percentage of women who are obese at 16.7 percent, followed by Colorado at 18 percent.http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=807f67b5-9c6b-40ac-aea2-edfd0e70e433&k=7205

[1stwahine]

After my meeting tonight, I am heading for StarBucks at Kam Shopping Center! No Low Fat. The Regular and largest foa me tonight. I deserve it.:D

Mahalo

Uncle Mike:p

[1stwahine]

Once I start, it's hard not to STOP!:o

I went to StarBucks tonight and bought me an Iced Mocha (Venti) w/ whipped Cream.

Was onolicious.:)

I am now going to go on my Roller Blade Exerciser to get rid of the calories.;)

Auntie Lynn

[OahuGirl]

When I stick to this one, I do well. The best part, it's FREE!!!
;)
http://sparkpeople.com/

[speedtek]

I have been on a diet but got to a point that I got nowhere even eating only 1200 cal a day. so a friend pointed me to a diet she was on and she claim her whole body "woke up"

http://www.essense-of-life.com/moreinfo/foodcharts.htm

It has something to do with the ph levels in your body. She has a machine that make alkaline water. She washes her veggies in it and says they last longer. I have an apple that was washed in the water and I just ate it yesterday after a week and it tasted sweeter. the tap water washed apple tasted sour. both from the same lot and color when I started the experiment.

Check it out and comment!

[opihipickerz]

Stay lean and strong, eat Opihi. A 2 oz. serving size (56g.) contains only 1.5 grams fat (2% of daily value), of which 0% saturated fat (the "bad" fat). Opihi from Ireland contain no sugar and no Cholesterol. They do contain Protein (8 grams), Calcium (10% of daily value) and are high on Iron (45% of daily value). Basically, Opihi is a super food.

[Karen]

If you are taking cholesterol-fighting drugs or care about someone that is, don't miss this huge news release! Many experts are stunned at a study of two drugs, Vytorin and Zetia, and are questioning why the drug companies waited

TWO YEARS to release the findings of these drugs which utterly and absolutely failed to help clear arteries or prevent heart disease while they did show lower numbers of LDL and a couple of other key markers which we are tested for.

Here's a small portion per the rules here and then the link to the full story.

'"Breaking News/Updates
Updated at 6:46 a.m., Sunday, March 30, 2008

Doctors leery of cholesterol drugs after key study flops

Associated Press

CHICAGO — Full results of a failed trial on Vytorin, a medicine taken by millions of Americans to lower cholesterol, left doctors stunned that the drug did not improve heart disease even though it worked as intended to lower three key risk factors.


Use of Vytorin and a related drug, Zetia, seemed sure to continue to fall after the findings reported Sunday and fresh questions about why drugmakers took nearly two years after the study ended to give results.

"A lot of us thought that there would be some glimmer of benefit," said Dr. Roger Blumenthal, a Johns Hopkins University cardiologist and spokesman for the American Heart Association."


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080330/BREAKING01/80330029

[kani-lehua]

i use a generic drug right now for lowering cholesterol. i did try zetia and something else (can't remember the name), both of which affected my muscles. it's supposed to be a rare side effect, but i know of at least 4 others who had the same thing happen to them.
i do take phytosterols, eat the leanest meats possible, eat more veggies and nuts; use olive and macnut oils; no sausages and very little processed meats. soy milk and fat free cheeses.

[Karen]

I was offered cholesterol lowering drugs not two weeks ago and I of course told my doc no way. My HDL is double what they say it needs to be and my LDL is 128 instead of 100 or less but I suspect that what we eat before we start fasting the night before...does matter and I ate a chunk of aged cheddar at 10 PM that night.

I betcha when I am retested that my LDL is much lower. that cheese wasn't the only thing I ate that evening before that is not like me to eat. I haven't yet researched it but I suspect that if we were tested five days in one week, and if we experimented by eating drastically differently the five evenings before that our numbers would, a lot of us anyway....vary greatly.

What this latest news report says is not just about these two cholesterol lowering drugs. This indicts all of them because it says that though they can and often do lower our blood tests numbers.....the lowering of our numbers does NOT lessen or prevent the hardened arteries of plaque, nor do the drugs lessen the likelihood of heart disease. As one doc said.....they show NO benefit concerning disease. The drugs just make our numbers test lower, they give us a false sense of improving health.

Like you, I am on a pretty much Mediterranean diet, eating olives on top of half a bag of raw spinach at a time with a lot of raw garlic and eating like a shallot a day, often two, doing the raw fruits but a lot more veggies than fruit, and I haven't eaten pork or beef in several months. I am eating salmon six and seven days a week, hence my HDL is so high, and I eat egg whites, rarely even a half of a yolk, and a lot of tortillas, Arturo's brand made in Hawaii that are full of oat fiber and some wheat gluten. I have no allergy to the gluten and it's been proven in studies to also help lower cholesterol levels.

Lastly, damn the pharmaceutical companies for sitting on this study for TWO YEARS. I'll be asking more than one congress person to investigate them for this.

No bloody excuse for it....and remember, they make our immunizations, too.

they don't care about us and our health....they care about making money.

Lesson learned...take control and keep control of your own health and find and honor the physician that truly works WITH you, and doesn't try to dictate your body's care.

[1stwahine]

K-den. Lemme see.

I just took Simvastatin. :eek:

And five odda medications. :p

I can hardly walk cause my neuropathy is acking up. But Life is GREAT!

I'm ALIVE!:D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Love and ALOHA,

Auntie Lynn

[cynsaligia]

eric & i are having more active career/school lives this year, as reflected by the dearth of posts from us as of late. (been posting more this week bcs of spring break...and i'm up late right now bcs i'm in denial...:() as a result, we've decided, for convenience, to do things like drink weight loss shakes accompanied by a fruit or yogurt or maybe a slice of whole wheat toast w/peanut butter (the kind you grind yourself at down to earth or safeway kapahulu's nut bar) for breakfast. we've also been buying a lot of the eating right brand frozen entrees from safeway and bringing those for lunch instead of buying from the caf at work or eating out.

the eating right entrees are pretty decent, esp when considering the price ($2.50 each). they taste better on average than healthy choice, lean cuisine, and other healthier frozen entrees. my favorites are the chicken poblano, the shrimp lingune with lemon garlic sauce & eric likes the linguine. don't get me wrong--they're never as good as home cooking (which we have less time for these days) but for $2.50 they're more than palatable. what's also nice is that they're not high in sodium, as many prepackaged foods that are relatively low in fat/calories can often be.

the portions are about 300 calories, and again, we supplement with a small salad, fruit, or yogurt. we've been eating this way for about six weeks and it's taught us portion control so that when we do eat out or at home, we eat smaller portions than we used to but feel satisfied. also, overall, we're eating way more fruits and veggies versus rice/pasta & fattier meats than we used to. we don't know how much weight we've lost exactly but clothing is getting looser. additionally, lumpy parts of our bodies that we don't want to be lumpy are visually less...lumpy. :p

the shakes are the safeway brand and cost $11 for two boxes containing six cans. we like the chocolate fudge flavor & the vanilla. since it's whey protein, it took a few days for our bodies to get past the errr...tooty side effects but we found eating yogurt more often helps that problem. we think the shakes, for what they are, have a nice balance of taste versus # of calories from fat versus # of calories from carbs versus vitamin/mineral payoff.

kanahina, if you want something rather chocolate milk-y, i'd suggest you try the safeway chocolate fudge weight loss shake, if you're so inclined. make sure it's ice cold, tho--it makes a difference in taste. it's actually rather enjoyable. sometimes eric & i will have that as an afternoon snack since it's about 170 calories.

we still eat chocolate, potato chips, and ice cream and even now we have a few bottles of sam adams honey porter in the fridge. but on average, we eat/drink less of the "junk" stuff than we used to. then again, we never were the type to eat a whole pint of hagen daz peanut butter chocolate ice cream in one sitting or drink a six pack in one afternoon between the two of us. also, our prior three-times a week skinny latte habit is long gone; when we were in portland, we picked up some bags of beans from stumptown roasters. we grind just enough for the week in our burr grinder and drink coffee from the fresh press maybe two, three times a week during our commute.

i guess overall, besides eating healthier, eating this way saves us money for other things down the line. so if there's ever a time when i look forlornly at my lunch (which is rare--work's been so busy that i often wait too long to eat and have to force myself not to gobble it down), it's easy for me to turn that frown upside down when i think about what we'll be doing later this year or next. :D

[kani-lehua]

K-den. Lemme see.

I just took Simvastatin. :eek:

And five odda medications. :p

I can hardly walk cause my neuropathy is acking up. But Life is GREAT!

I'm ALIVE!:D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Love and ALOHA,

Auntie Lynn


auntie, statin drugs can cause muscle fatigue, achiness (spelling) and cramping. i know, been there done that. several other people i know have had the same problem. i could barely lift my arms to hang laundry. please talk to your doctor about switching to something else. my legs, too, were always tired.

karen, no yolks for me. made mom some egg salad the other day and wanted to have one of those sandwiches real bad. my doc says i can have ONE egg per month. what's the sense?! egg whites only doctored up with veggies, chili powder or cayenne pepper is something i've come to enjoy. garlic, garlic, garlic! yum!

cysaligia, i bought some cashew nut butter from safeway and boy did it seem salty?! for the amount you pay per pound at safeway, i'd just stick to down to earth where it's much cheaper. for me it's convenient to go to down to earth because our safeway in kailua doesn't have the nut bar yet.

you know what i really miss besides eggs? fried chicken, a greasy burger, portuguese sausage and hot dogs. i was just reading that thread about the hot dogs. ah, man, no can do!

[1stwahine]

kani-lehua,

You ever heard the song, "Tears of the Clown?" Well, das who I feel like most of the time nowadays. :(

I'm not well. And it's my fault.

I tipped the scales at 203 pounds this morning. Yes, all the symptoms you describe I feel. I can hardly walk so exercising is limited. I do enjoy and although it hurts, I practice Tai Chi and go every Monday to classes. I also take Plavix, Lithium, Topomax, Gabapentin, and Metoprolol. Add Tetracycline for the acne from stress and Amoxcillin for my sore tooth.

Walking Pharmacy, I am.

My dream of opening a restaurant is being shattered due to my current medical problem. I cry every night for a miracle. I will still be me....my mouth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I know I have to make changes if I want to live. Problem is, I have a hard time keeping at it.:o It's nobody's fault but mine.

Love and ALOHA,

Auntie Lynn

[kani-lehua]

auntie: honestly, please talk to your doc about the statin drug you are taking. also, i used to own a restaurant and that was no play in the park. getting up at 2am every morning and being at the restaurant by 4am nearly killed me and my relationships! after a year of having my okazu-ya, i finally sold it to another restaurant whose lease was being terminated. valuable experience gained, but i would never do it again. i was in the food business before for app. 6 years, but cannot disclose the name of the franchise because of a clause in the contract.

[1stwahine]

I will stop taking the Simvastatin. I will be taking blood tests (fasting) tomorrow and I'll ask to see my doctor. As for my restaurant. It's in my blood. My MAMA owned several in Chinatown. My children worked hard from the time they were teenagers. The only problem I see in running a restaurant again is giving away food.heheheh

My passion is to help the hungry and the homeless.;)

Reality. If my legs continue to deteriorate, than my dream dies.:(

Mahalo,

Auntie Lynn

[kani-lehua]

I will stop taking the Simvastatin. I will be taking blood tests (fasting) tomorrow and I'll ask to see my doctor. As for my restaurant. It's in my blood. My MAMA owned several in Chinatown. My children worked hard from the time they were teenagers. The only problem I see in running a restaurant again is giving away food.heheheh

My passion is to help the hungry and the homeless.;)

Reality. If my legs continue to deteriorate, than my dream dies.:(

Mahalo,

Auntie Lynn


good to hear! but, i think i had to wean myself off of the statins that i took. then start the other supposed cholesterol lowering medication.

i can relate to you regarding the hungry and the homeless. my weakness is for animals. all eight of mine (was nine) are adopted. oh, boy! we go through some serious dog food.

[D'Alani]

[quote=kani-lehua;189774]auntie, statin drugs can cause muscle fatigue, achiness (spelling) and cramping. i know, been there done that. several other people i know have had the same problem. i could barely lift my arms to hang laundry. please talk to your doctor about switching to something else. my legs, too, were always tired.

I noticed that about arms since I started taking simvastatin a few months ago, my legs are okay though. I go to see my doctor next Monday so I will be asking him to change my medication. I never quite tied the two together so thanks for the info.

[kani-lehua]

[quote=kani-lehua;189774]auntie, statin drugs can cause muscle fatigue, achiness (spelling) and cramping. i know, been there done that. several other people i know have had the same problem. i could barely lift my arms to hang laundry. please talk to your doctor about switching to something else. my legs, too, were always tired.

I noticed that about arms since I started taking simvastatin a few months ago, my legs are okay though. I go to see my doctor next Monday so I will be asking him to change my medication. I never quite tied the two together so thanks for the info.

yes. it's supposedly a "rare" side effect. but, i don't think so. the statins did a number on both my arms and legs. i think it took about 2 months before i started feeling better. it's just too coincidental that 4 people in my immediate circle could have had the muscle fatigue and then to feel better once they were off the statins. also, my original doctor did not believe me so i ended up getting a second opinion.

[1stwahine]

I forgot.

What's the difference between Simvastatin and Plavix?

Auntie Lynn

[kani-lehua]

'PLAVIX is indicated for patients with recent heart attack, recent stroke, or poor circulation in the legs, known as peripheral arterial disease."

simvastatin would be used to help lower your cholesterol.

[1stwahine]

heheheh

Mahalo kani-lehua!

I wuz too lazy to google earlier.:)

Auntie Lynn

[Karen]

Auntie, you might start lieing on the floor, a mat or something and doing leg raises and if not too sore, next few days do more and more of them till you strengthen the legs and can even put an ankle weight around them and do leg raises with that. careful! just a tad of weight, the 3lb'er first, and over mos...slowly and carefully work up.

You can do one position of raises where you lie flat on your back, but if you do....always!! keep the knee bent and up in the air...the knee of the leg you are NOT doing raises with. (this saves the back...never keep both legs flat on the floor and do leg raises with one leg) I hope that didn't sound confusing. (then you can lie on your side and raise them in the air, toe pointed up and that works the inside thighs excellently, the whole leg a little and then rear very well, lol)

Anyway, I'll say a prayer or ten for you. You are a sweet soul and Chinatown or anywhere on this rock would be dang blessed if you opened an eatery, so hang in there.

About our diets and cholesterol....I also drink a couple of teaspoons of raw, unpasteurized Apple Cider vinegar in juice or even my green tea...once if not twice a day most days. The way vinegar used to clean out my mom's "Mr. Coffe" maker I bet it sure helps to clean us out.

I eat raw garlic five days a week, well sorry, three last week cuz I fell in love with shallots and they are stronger than big onions and so one or two shallots a day surely is blessing this bod. I lost 23lbs....with about 25 yet to go, and my BP is 110/75 yet I am 51 and right now weight 160 or just a half pound less.

This onion and garlic, and eating so much raw salad, huge ones for dinner surely is helping a lot cuz heredity does matter and I look a lot like my daddy, same hands, legs, veins, etc....and he died of heart disease at 59, and before that, when he was the age I am now he already had BP of 160, approx....

I like to think that...."raw food is alive, cooked food is dead" to help keep me in line. Do I splurge? heck yes.....like homemade, from scratch, gourmet carrot cake my daughter made...I indulged but not every day.

lastly, I am an exercise hypocrite~ lol....I have an eliptical but get too busy to use it except for on its highest setting and I then use it for eight minutes as a muscle builder and then use my universal weight machine for upper body.

I know better! I know that aerobics remains the most important type of exercise.

[kani-lehua]

This onion and garlic, and eating so much raw salad, huge ones for dinner surely is helping a lot cuz heredity does matter and I look a lot like my daddy, same hands, legs, veins, etc....and he died of heart disease at 59, and before that, when he was the age I am now he already had BP of 160, approx....


i hear you! my father died at the age of 46 from heart disease. for me, it's also hereditary. both sides of the family have it and high cholesterol. my problem is trying to stay away from salt. it's in everything! but, what i've found out that when i try to go low, low, low sodium, i start getting cramps in my feet. as much as possible, i do try to keep it as low as possible.

[WindwardOahuRN]

[quote=D'Alani;189811]

yes. it's supposedly a "rare" side effect. but, i don't think so. the statins did a number on both my arms and legs. i think it took about 2 months before i started feeling better. it's just too coincidental that 4 people in my immediate circle could have had the muscle fatigue and then to feel better once they were off the statins. also, my original doctor did not believe me so i ended up getting a second opinion.

The "rare" side effect they are talking about in those statin warnings is not just muscle aches and pains although those aches could be a warning sign of rhabdomyolysis. Rhabdo is the destruction of cells that can lead to kidney failure and even death.

We see it in crush injuries and cases where patients have been "down" and immobile for extended periods of time. The cells are destroyed and release huge amounts of toxins that the kidneys just can't handle. Electrolyte imbalances, cardiac arrhythmias and renal failure are just a few of the complications of rhabdo.

Scary stuff.

[1stwahine]

Karen, thank you dear for your suggestions. Thank you all. I just pau Tai Chi practice.:D I enjoy it very much. My legs are sore when I start but I focus and the pain goes away. It's called finding my center.

I have an exercising machine for my leg and a roll one too. The problem is I'm not consistent. :o I'm so bad. I'm my worst enemy.

As for foods. I love to cook and I love to eat. My opu has a mind of it's own. I no kid you. When I go see my doctor, I am going to ask for diet pills. I have no other alternative at this time. Either that or sew my mouth shut.

It's that bad.:(

I'm not asking for pity. No. Just the opposite. I am horribly over weight.

Love and ALOHA,

Auntie Lynn

[Karen]

Auntie, you are not the only one that is your own "worst enemy." You just described the human race, generally speaking. Seems I have to encounter at least the possibility of some serious health issue and that this catapults me into a health regimen and that "scare" of what could...be....is my will power. Of myself....I can't do it and I did have my own "wake up call" and that's how I'm being more consistent. I don't wish that on you or anyone...a serious health scare.

Remember things in our bible that either says, or means the same as "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." I remember some great apostle of bible, was it Paul? that said he didn't do the things he knew he should and that he did things he knew he shouldn't? also...the quote "of myself I can do nothing?"

Do not kick yourself for being human and wake up another day and dig the Tai Chi and since you like it maybe do it more than once a day, and keep the faith. Thanks for sharing and I'll say a little prayer for both of us as I get to sleep and I mean that I really will.

Bless you and huggz~

[Leo Lakio]

I will stop taking the Simvastatin.Lynn - please do not just stop taking your simvastatin, based on our discussions here!

Yes, much of the information you are reading is correct regarding the muscle problems with statins, including the fatality issues. Get to your doctor, talk about the problems you are having, focus on rebalancing your medications. You are taking enough different chemicals that can interact with each other, and it can take time to find out how they affect each other in your unique system.

But don't just simply drop one or more, based on what you read online or what you hear from us - that has some dangerous potential. Talk face-to-face with your doctors, get additional opinions from medical professionals, ask them directly about the things you've read, read more about your medications, ask more questions, BURY them with questions, drive them MAD with all your questions if you have to, in order to get your physical, mental & emotional health back under your control - but please do not self-adjust your meds without seeing them first.

You know we care, dear one.

[Karen]

Kani-lehua, I did not mean to ignore you. I posted in a fog and my fault for being here so late when I couldn't help some dumb typo or two, also.

Salt can be tricky because it's an electrolyte and very necessary. I even like to put a bit of iodized salt in Orange Juice and then water that down instead of using gatorade type drinks, and the OJ with Calcium added, woo hoo for a bonus, but too much is bad, so....balance is necessary.

[WindwardOahuRN]

Lynn - please do not just stop taking your simvastatin, based on our discussions here!

Yes, much of the information you are reading is correct regarding the muscle problems with statins, including the fatality issues. Get to your doctor, talk about the problems you are having, focus on rebalancing your medications. You are taking enough different chemicals that can interact with each other, and it can take time to find out how they affect each other in your unique system.

But don't just simply drop one or more, based on what you read online or what you hear from us - that has some dangerous potential. Talk face-to-face with your doctors, get additional opinions from medical professionals, ask them directly about the things you've read, read more about your medications, ask more questions, BURY them with questions, drive them MAD with all your questions if you have to, in order to get your physical, mental & emotional health back under your control - but please do not self-adjust your meds without seeing them first.

You know we care, dear one.

ALL medications have potential adverse effects but we have to weigh the benefits against the risks. ITA with your advice, Leo.
BOMBARD your docs with questions and demand explanations and answers, Lynn. Please don't go changing your medication regimen without guidance.
Take care...

[kani-lehua]

ALL medications have potential adverse effects but we have to weigh the benefits against the risks. ITA with your advice, Leo.
BOMBARD your docs with questions and demand explanations and answers, Lynn. Please don't go changing your medication regimen without guidance.
Take care...


ditto to that! auntie, like i said in a previous post, i got a second opinion and had to be weaned off of the statins before starting with a different medication.

according to yesterday's star bulletin (couldn't find the link, sorry), " vytorin and zetia might not work and should be used only as a last resort, a panel of four cardiologists said yesterday at a major medical conference in chicago. instead, doctors and patients should rely more heavily on older cholesterol-lowering drugs called statins, which have proven benefits and can be cheaper. statins include drugs like lipitor and simvastin, the generic version of zocor. but other, lesser-known drugs like the vitamin niacin should also be tried before vytorin and zetia. unlike statins, which block the liver from making cholesterol, zetia stops the intestine from absorbing choleterol in food."

[1stwahine]

You are my Online OHANA!! Das why I love HT! Unconditional love felt through cyber space. Amazing. ;)

I called my doctor but she wasn't in.heheheh She comes back tomorrow. K-den. I'll take my Simvastatin 80MG Tablet until I speak with her and go over my meds.

I thank you all for your kind words and sincere concern.

Auntie Lynn

[Karen]

Auntie, good! good that you are working with your doc and not suddenly going it alone.

What if stopping a med can shock the body or something? I mean one you've been on and not just a week or ten days of antibiotic.

What comes to mind is that if we are one of the health-nuts that takes several grams of Vitamin C, for example and I mean for an extended amount of time, wisdom dictates that we are to slowly come down off of, LOL sounds goofy as if it's a high...sorry, back to being serious, we are to slowly lessen the amount of Vit. C because taking more than like 1000mg. a day and even that may...

become systemic to our bodies so that they rely on it and it actually becomes necessary and expected to basic health. There have even been extreme and rare, yes......reports of people doing mega-Vit. C and stopping it all at once and they got symptoms of Scurvy, teeth got loose, and things like that!

In this instance you are on prescriptions and I am glad cuz you are working with your doctor every step of the way.

BTW, I like your signature, good scripture. I need to read things like it so that I keep the balance of wanting to do my best and yet knowing what to expect from myself, and when to admit I am just human.

Sending you huggz~

[1stwahine]

Karen, I was going to answer you in the Life before Death thread, but I'll do it here. I just want to give you a long virtual (((HUG))). :D

Mahalo

Auntie Lynn

[Karen]

SUE! yoo hoo...over here, lol.

Of course neither of us meant to derail/hijack a thread. In the course of human nature every conversation evolves, BUT....since we both care to keep a forum flowing as it should and the posts be naturally recognizable per subject.....Thank goodness Auntie started a "diet and health" thread cuz we can now, within the subject of health discuss a ton of things and this thread can evolve since it's such a broad subject.

Maybe a mod will move our vinegar and amino acid posts to here, for us.

Yes! gal check out Ft. DeRussey and maybe you'll find their group still meeting and exercising.

Oh wow, I had no idea that the same symptoms for overproduction of acid could be for under producing, also. Glad the raw vinegar is working for you. It is great for so many things. I wouldn't think of flying without drinking it...per bloodclotting/pooling in the legs....phone.....hopefully be back soon.


Here's the link you put on the derailed thread. I had not been to their site but once. I think I'll now peruse it. I had forgotten that they produce olive oil, too and I trust their brand to make high quality products. Will have to see if Longs carries it. Oh wait, they stopped carrying the vinegar, dang'em. Okay, will check GNC.

http://www.bragg.com/bragglifestyle/ftderussyclass.html


When I found this thread for us to move to I had not realized/remembered which one it was. I sit here eating my smoked salmon over two fatfree, high oatmeal tortillas, 60 calories each, and with a little dip that was made last night with fatfree Philly cream cheese, a lot of sauteed garlic, shallot and onion, and some green stuff, LOL..oh yeah, spinach, but nto raw, and a large shallot that is raw that I just cut up and mixed in, and am drinking a tablespoon or closer to two of the raw vinegar, and some Oddwalla Banana strawberry puree, mixed with half glass of filtered water.

I'll exercise in less than an hour but again, most of it will be my eliptical, 15min. will be a miracle, but on the hardest setting, then my universal type, pulley weight machine and then my FAV! lieing on my exercise mat with a pretty heavy ankle weight on and doing maybe....70 leg raises four times, two of those per leg.

I'll then feel like showering and grocery shopping, or I should. I have not lost anymore weight in three weeks, easily. I did get tired of the same 'ole, very healthy but same few types of meals that work for me. I have had oh man, carrot cake again, just small piece, chocolate too many days though not too much per time, had one lowfat java chip frappuccino from starbucks when tired, hungry and shopping, with the extra espresso shot added, and I've actually indulged a bit in mac and cheese and a couple of other meals that I know I just don't need, and can't count the calories of. No, didn't put on anything but it's time to continue losing.

[WindwardOahuRN]

Okay. Maybe it's just me and my science-based thinking regarding such things but just what is ingested vinegar supposed to achieve related to health issues?
Is it supposed to change the acid/base balance in your body? Is that the claim? :D

[tutusue]

I doubt you'll find anything in JAMA, WORN, but if you google on apple cider vinegar and reflux you'll get many hits; granted, all anecdotal. As for me, my relief was dramatic, first with the slippery elm powder then the ACV. I'd much rather try a so-called "natural" remedy as drugs and I just don't like each other. I'd make a truly lousy junkie! :D

[kani-lehua]

I doubt you'll find anything in JAMA, WORN, but if you google on apple cider vinegar and reflux you'll get many hits; granted, all anecdotal. As for me, my relief was dramatic, first with the slippery elm powder then the ACV. I'd much rather try a so-called "natural" remedy as drugs and I just don't like each other. I'd make a truly lousy junkie! :D

sorry, i'm confused:confused: are you taking both the slippery elm powder and the ACV?

[tutusue]

sorry, i'm confused:confused: are you taking both the slippery elm powder and the ACV?
Yes...when I remember! I take the SE in the morning and the ACV before dinner. Once I use up my existing SE, I'll switch to ACV in the morning and evening and see how that works.

BTW, fresh lemon juice also works well. I ran out of SE awhile back and didn't have time to go to the health food store. I got reflux really bad and the naturopath told me to find a lemon! I ran across the street, bought a lemon, squeezed half of it into a half glass of water, added some stevia and...the relief was wonderful! :)

[kani-lehua]

please keep us updated. i'm VERY interested. i posted before that i use generic zantac (spelling). 95% of the time it works.

the lemon method sounds interesting, too. sorta like a lemon-lime alka seltzer without the fizz ;). was the stevia used just as a sweetener? or did the naturopath recommend adding that into the concoction, too? if so, for what reason? also, do you know what triggered the acid reflux when you had to use this potion?

sorry to pry.

[tutusue]

[...]sorry to pry.
Not at all...just as long as you understand that what I post is just my experience.

I didn't know what was causing the reflux...and that was the problem. I didn't know what to eliminate. Tums, Pepcid, etc. made it worse. I had more symptoms during the day than at night which seemed odd. My naturopath explained it in terms I really didn't understand until she mentioned a lack of acid instead of an excess of acid...and how the lack affected some valve!!! I was afraid that drinking "acid" would add fuel to the fire. If that happened, she said, I could just take a Tums! It didn't happen. Instead, I found relief. The stevia was just for sweetening. I love that stuff and have used it for years altho' naturopath also recommended it.

For me, the lemon was more like a strong lemonade. I find the ACV to be less expensive and more convenient.

[kani-lehua]

i totally understand.

regarding the lemon potion: add vodka to make it a hard lemonade ;)

ah, yes! i've heard of that VALVE and don't recall the name of it either.

i also told you that i tried cumin. well, that didn't work at all!

peppermint? someone somewhere recommended using that to help with the reflux. i tried the tea but it didn't work either. maybe it wasn't strong enough?! maybe peppermint shnapps woulda worked?!

[Karen]

Windward RN, only raw vinegar has a lot of health benefit. It is a blood thinner, and in the raw state it has pectin, enzymes that are not killed by heating, as well as minerals, Potassium being the one it has the most of.

There is literally a ton of anecdotal evidence of the health benefits of raw vinegar, and make no mistake about it, the vinegars in the grocery stores are used for cleaning in my house, not for food.

I watched my mom clean our Mr. Coffee maker with vinegar about once a month and would be amazed at the amount of hard water deposits that it cleaned out of the thing. I've heard about a case of vinegar spilt on a cement, warehouse floor and how it wasn't cleaned up quickly and cleaned the floor, and can only imagine how the healthy version of vinegar must be helping to clean out my body.

When I have stuffy sinuses I will eat three of the fattest cloves of raw garlic that a bulb will have, and chase it with a tablespoon approx., of raw, apple cider vinegar in Oddwalla or Govinda's juices, and water. My sinuses get clearer every time and I have several productive "blows of the nose."

My sister has rheumatoid arthritis and eats a lot of salmon for the fish oil. Anecdotal as it is, I have friends that swear by the raw vinegar for their arthritis symptoms, too. Vinegar is great for a sunburn.

There are many that claim anecdotal evidence that vinegar lowers blood pressure. I don't know....I am 51, weigh anywhere from 158 to 160 the last couple of weeks, at 5ft. 6in......my daddy at my age had BP of 160 and over, but mine is 110/75. I've drank the raw vinegar for years....maybe it's a good part of why mine is so good, too.



Okay. Maybe it's just me and my science-based thinking regarding such things but just what is ingested vinegar supposed to achieve related to health issues?
Is it supposed to change the acid/base balance in your body? Is that the claim? :D

[Kleo]

Hey, guys-do you know what is my "diet"? :confused:

All "nice" fatty food has to go from the fridge and kitchen alltogether! :D

I only have water, fruit and vegies,and some lean meat & chicken left in the fridge.

Its sooooooo boring, but it works wonders!;)

[Bobinator]

When I have stuffy sinuses I will eat three of the fattest cloves of raw garlic that a bulb will have, and chase it with a tablespoon approx., of raw, apple cider vinegar ...
Yeah, but do you still have friends?:D

[Bobinator]

Still, maybe I oughtt try the garlic thing. My sinuses have been bothering me a lot these days, especially with the vog and recurring sinus infections. I've been drinking the raw organic apple cider vinegar thing with honey. I like it a lot. Can't say I'm seein miracles here, but I'm certain it's doing me some good. I sometimes add some cinnamon. Heard it's suppose to help you lose weight. Feels like Xmas all year long.

[Karen]

Bob, LOL amazingly, yes I do! I even still get huggz. :eek:

I do warn them when I've eaten the garlic and suspect there could be an odor, stuff like that, and we all joke about it.

I just finished eating some teriyaki salmon on top of some multi-grain, soy, health nut type flatbread, one really large shallot, (large FOR shallots) instead of garlic, a bit of lowfat sour cream and some fresh made salsa with jalapenos, in it, and I chased it down with some Govinda's Superfood? is it called, very green, Spirulina in it? I get the versions of Govinda's confused with Oddwalla at times but am sipping the last of it, with a tablespoon of the raw vinegar in it, and a box of tissues here on the desk.

Some days it works better than others but it always works some, and my headache of the forehead I awoke with, probably a sinus one is finally lessening. I took one tylenol and that alone didn't do much.

Dang VOG, molds and mildews on island can give our sinuses heck. Lemme know here if you try it and like it.

[kani-lehua]

karen: i'm with you regarding molds and mildews and dang all the pollen.

bob: what about using a saline solution for your sinuses? it worked wonders for me when i had a head cold.

[Karen]

I have also been using some hot sauces like "texas Pete's hottest. Don't get me wrong.....I am not ready for Habanero in my V8 but the mixes of Jalapeno and other hot peppers and maybe fifteen or so drops in my veggie juice, warmed in the microwave a bit, and drank after having my raw garlic or shallot, and my sinuses have been fighting a losing battle.

The ENT suggested we buy new bedpillows every six mos. because of the molds.

[Bobinator]

bob: what about using a saline solution for your sinuses? it worked wonders for me when i had a head cold.

I use the sinus rinse kit with the squeeze bottle from longs drugs. I like it a lot. Loosens all the... * from my sinuses and gives me temporary relief, but not much else. It's helpful, but not a cure.

My dentist friend recommended "Thera Flu for Colds (Severe;Daytime)" Helps alleviate the sinus infection symptons and is said to allow speedier healing. I tried it a couple of times. Works well, but tastes like, well... rotten lemonade. Have to get the daytime one so it doesn't make you drowsy. Doesn't dry me out either. May have to resort to using it everyday this weekend. Gotz singin engagements. Hard to sing with swollen sinus tissue. Sound like an alien.

[kani-lehua]

I have also been using some hot sauces like "texas Pete's hottest. Don't get me wrong.....I am not ready for Habanero in my V8 but the mixes of Jalapeno and other hot peppers and maybe fifteen or so drops in my veggie juice, warmed in the microwave a bit, and drank after having my raw garlic or shallot, and my sinuses have been fighting a losing battle.

The ENT suggested we buy new bedpillows every six mos. because of the molds.

bob: sounds like karen's potion of peppers/veggie juice will clean you or your sinuses out. lol.

karen: met a neighbor across the street. he's growing all kinds of peppers. he gave me one (don't remember the name) that looks like a habenero that's supposed to be the second hottest pepper in the world next to some kind of peruvian one. he also game me one of his jalapenos and another one i can't recall the name of. he gave me some kind of thyme plant, too. i in turn gave him some multi-colored bell pepper plants. nice guy, that one. says he's going to make some salsa, molles, etc. for cinco de mayo. even makes chilli powders. he was trying to give me more than i needed and had to tell him that a little goes a long way.:eek:

[cynsaligia]

he gave me one (don't remember the name) that looks like a habenero that's supposed to be the second hottest pepper in the world next to some kind of peruvian one.

he's probably growing dominican's devil's tongues (DDT), or red savina, peppers. the hottest pepper in the world is actually indian (the southeast asian kind).

to give you an idea of how hot that is, regular tabasco sauce is at about 2500-5000 scoville units. habanero tabasco sauce, which tests my upper limits, comes in at more than 7000. DDT is 350,000 to 500,000 units. the hottest pepper, naga jolokia, gets 800,000 - 1,000,000 scoville units. eat at your innards' peril!

[kani-lehua]

he's probably growing dominican's devil's tongues (DDT), or red savina, peppers. the hottest pepper in the world is actually indian (the southeast asian kind).

to give you an idea of how hot that is, regular tabasco sauce is at about 2500-5000 scoville units. habanero tabasco sauce, which tests my upper limits, comes in at more than 7000. DDT is 350,000 to 500,000 units. the hottest pepper, naga jolokia, gets 800,000 - 1,000,000 scoville units. eat at your innards' peril!

hm? those names don't sound familiar. but, even if that's what he gave me, i wouldn't recall the names. there was just too much information for me to take in. all i know is that he said they were hot, hot, hot! he talked about the scoville units, but again, i don't remember where they would be on the scale.

[cynsaligia]

hm? those names don't sound familiar. but, even if that's what he gave me, i wouldn't recall the names. there was just too much information for me to take in. all i know is that he said they were hot, hot, hot! he talked about the scoville units, but again, i don't remember where they would be on the scale.

let's put it this way. when handling such peppers as that are as hot as scotch bonnets, use gloves. be careful when chopping, bcs getting any part of it in your eyes will burn. i understand that there might even be irritating fumes when cutting up such peppers so you might want to wear goggles or glasses.

hawaiian chili pepper - about 100,000 scoville units.

eric encourages me to eat chilis, whether jalapenos or serranos or hawaiian red chilis, often. they boost metabolism, are great for your heart/blood, and act as anti-inflammatories (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=29). some studies have shown benefits to those who have diabetes. additionally, they are a good source of vit c and help clear sinuses, which makes them a great choice if you're feeling under the weather. overall, if you can handle the heat, chilis are a good part of dieting & staying healthy.

[kani-lehua]

agreed. however, i did slice the "hot" pepper with the flesh side down being ever so careful as to not handle it too much and used very, very little of it in the teriyaki sauce i made the other day. it did pack a punch, but not right away. i'm trying to dry out the seeds for future planting.

did you read the article in i believe yesterday's paper about the fire in one of india's markets in which the peppers caught on fire which produced a stinging and irritating fume/smoke? i looked for the link but couldn't find it.

"hot" topic. not. i just started my bioset in which i should have chinese red radish sprouts, mung bean sprouts and broccoli sprouts within the next 3-7 days. this should be a no brainer. all i have to do is water once a day. we'll see. ;)

[alohacandy]

OK, now that I've read about the apple cider vinegar on this thread, I went to Down to Earth this weekend and picked up a bottle of the stuff. Still haven't had any of it though!! Is there a website that I can go to that goes into more detail about the benefits of apple cider vinegar. Also bought some Stevia in little packets that look like sugar packets....still haven't used those either.
Love jalapenos...Happy Cinco de Mayo!! :-)

[1stwahine]

hello.

I'm on Isagenix's nine day program.

This is my third day.:D

Auntie Lynn