Super Bowl XLII: Patriots v. Giants

[pzarquon]

A worthy matchup to cap off a great NFL season, or a snoozer? Which team do you think will win, and which team do you want to win?

Chuck Klosterman says that the game would be more interesting (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=perfectpats) if the Patriots lost:The Patriots are the best team. It would be a shame if they did not win. Yet we would care so much more if they lost. If the Patriots win, they will just become this thing that scorched the earth for five months before capturing a trophy that was never in doubt. Future historians will describe this New England team as if it were a machine. Everyone will concede the Pats' superlative greatness, but the 19 wins will be just a collection of numbers. But if they lose -- especially if they lose late -- the New England Patriots will be the most memorable collection of individuals in the history of pro football.

[Random]

Anyone BUT the Patriots. They're not the '07 Warriors.

[EastCoastTropics]

Go PATS!!! yeah baby!

[oceanpacific]

The Giants were lucky to get so close at home in game 18 of the regular season. This one's on a neutral site. New England will likely not cover the 14, but they don't need to. Four Super Bowl wins this decade for the Patriots.

[Kittrick]

Patriots: looking more vulnerable every game down the stretch. If Gianys knock Brady out of the game, this one is over because NE's backup is terrible. Cassel was so bad that even though he was supposed to play in garbage time on more than one occasion, he was sent back to the bench and Brady was put back in.

Giants: Lowest seed at #5 coming into the playoffs. All 3 playoff wins on the road to get to the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay were all sent packing for the offseason on their home fields by the G-men. This team was toxic last year, and I have no idea what they did to get better, but if they lose to NE it'll be a sad ending to a dream season.

If Seattle had won their game with Green Bay, the G-Men would have faced Seattle in Seattle for the NFC Championship, and it wouldn't have been the G-men who would have gone to the Super Bowl. The Giants owe the Seahawks, because they played at Lambeau instead heh.

My prediction: Giants 31, Patriots 28...game winner by Tynes who will probably miss a few to keep it a close game. Giants D will try to make Brady scramble on that high ankle sprain and he'll have problems.

[timkona]

We always write up a quiz for Super Bowl with questions like Who will score first? What Beer Commercial will be first? How many fumbles total in game? etc etc. It's great for people with little or no football acumen.

I took the Giants over Green Bay, and cleaned up. I think the Giants will surprise the Pats. Brady ain't healthy. And just look at those receivers on the Giants.....Toomer, Burress, Smith....sheesh !

I'm gonna eat 3 times, with extra dessert.

[alohabear]

Where's the I don't care option? I waiting for the Daytona 500 baby;) February 17,2008

[scrivener]

Geez. The "I Don't Care" option was not clicking on the thread title.

I take my SuperBowl picks very seriously, which is why I haven't weighed in yet on this. Most of the time, I make a pick and if I'm wrong, whatever. But I have a GREAT record picking the winners of the big game that goes back to SuperBowl XI (Raiders over the Vikes, baby) and I don't like tarnishing that record.

I was crazy wrong about the Miami-San Fran game (XIV...I really thought Marino was unstoppable), and wrong about both Pittsburgh-Dallas games (one of which coulda gone either way), and wrong about the Raiders-Buccaneers game. So that's four wrong in thirty-one years. Yes, I did too pick the Broncos over the Packers in XXXII!

Then there's the added pressure I put on myself because last year (http://hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=11759), I said Indy 31 Chicago 19 (final score: Indy 29 Chicago 17), and the year before (http://hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=7697), I said Pittsburgh 28 Seattle 17 (final score: Pittsburgh 21 Seattle 10 -- I had the differential right).

So here's what I think, 'though I fear my own self-perceived reputation is going down the toilet tomorrow:

The best team almost always wins. That's the Patriots.
The Patriots are beatable, as evidence by several games near the end there, most notably vs. the Ravens and the Giants.
The Patriots, while demonstrating great vulnerability, have still managed to win every game!
Eli has been solid, and he's got the weapons, but he hasn't proven himself yet. If you were drafting a team for this one game, would you take an injured Tom Brady or an unproven Eli Manning? Tom.
I love those New York defensive linemen, but they are the strength and heart of the defense, and I think the Patriots will be prepared for them, especially with some nice draw plays, screens, and short gains underneath. They're not too proud to play the short game. In a game like this, Brady could go 30 for 34 or some ridiculous number like that.
Oh, I soooooooooooo want the Giants to win!

MVP: Brady, of course.
Best commercial: Pepsi.

So with all that taken into consideration, I offer my unsure and reluctant prediction: New England 34, New York 24. If you're playing the spread, take NY. If you're just picking a winner, take NE.

[mel]

The guaranteed winner of this whether or not the game is a close one or a blow-out will be Fox TV network. $2.7 million for a 30-sec. spot? Count each 30 second ad that appears on Super Bowl Sunday.... big money.

[MixedPlateBroker]

Heard Ryan Seacrest's voice while I was in the bathroom earlier. I hope he doesn't make another appearance in either the pregame or regular broadcast to sully my enjoyment of the game. :rolleyes:

On our menu today:
Texas chili spaghetti
Crispy chicken wings with chili lime butter
Oregon Honey Beer

Go Giants!

[TATTRAT]

GO GIANTS!

On the menu here:

Chimichuri Marinated Pork Shoulder, slow roasted of course.
Honey garlic and ginger smoked wings
Sausage with peppers and onions
Big BOY grilled potato spears
Queso Dip with roasted Jalapeño and caramelized onion
Chips and Dips

Beer and Vodka!

[cynsaligia]

Heard Ryan Seacrest's voice while I was in the bathroom earlier. I hope he doesn't make another appearance in either the pregame or regular broadcast to sully my enjoyment of the game. :rolleyes:

On our menu today:
Texas chili spaghetti
Crispy chicken wings with chili lime butter
Oregon Honey Beer

Go Giants!

i forgot to tell eric that we also have:

totino's sausage & pepperoni pizza (a childhood favorite of mine; now an irrational adult indulgence)
salad greens with marinated feta & greek olives (we do have to eat some veggies today)
ben & jerry's steven colbert's americone dream ice cream (vanilla ice cream with chocolate covered waffle cone bits and caramel)

kinda a lot of food for only the two of us but leftovers for the week will be yum!

[scrivener]

Oregon Honey Beer
This has been my beer of choice lately. Probably won't have any today because I'm working on a project while I watch the game.

[Kalei99]

OK, my prediction: 31-24 Pats.

On the menu in my house:

Maple Bacon Turkey Burgers
Sweet Potato Fries
Fresh Guacamole w/chips & salsa
Homemade crab puffs
Scallops wrapped in bacon
Chocolate Dobash Cake

Come one, come all! BYOB

Oh yeah, I live in Heber, UT. :D

[EastCoastTropics]

On the menu at our place....

BBQ chicken wings
Honey BBQ chicken wings
Kalua Pig
Port. sausage
crackers/ham/cheese
Rice
Steamed veggies
Fruit Smoothies

GO PATS!!

Lovena

[Random]

On an unrelatd note...

Damn! That Alicia Key is hot! :D

[cynsaligia]

is anyone else a annoyed by the little ads for mesh, subway, etc., that appear above the bowl countdown? i wish there were a way to remove that from my screen. *scowl*

[Random]

Speaking of ads, is KHON2 taking advantage of "renting" out premium timeslots for local commercials during the Super Bowl programming?

[Random]

Is it me, or the current video segment where they are citing the Declaration of Independence is a subtle hint FOX is behind the New England Patriots?

Honestly, do we need a reminder that USA is great nation? Sheesh! I get it already since I was born!

[scrivener]

I may have to give Keys another listen; that was a good performance. And this Declaration of Independence thing is sooooooooo stupid.

[shaveice]

On an unrelatd note...

Damn! That Alicia Key is hot! :D

where did that come from??? :D did you enjoy her in smokin' aces? i thought she did a good job.

anyway, i wish it weren't so but i'm pretty sure the pats are going to win but you never know. at the very least, i hope the giants give them a run for their money. go giants!!!!

[cynsaligia]

tom brady in his underwear!! :eek:

see him in this 2005 SNL "sexual harassment" clip (http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=536214).

[cynsaligia]

Woo hoo!
Manning completes it to Steve Smith for the 1st down.
Good opening drive for the Giants.
Damn, that Audi R8 is sweet.:p

Cripeys! Forgot to log Cyn out before I posted. hehhe

[EastCoastTropics]

That FedEx commercial with the carrier pigeons is hilarious! :D Hubby works for P&G....formerly Gillette used to buy ads in the SB and this year its P&G's first time in the SB with the Tide pen commercial.

GO PATS!

Lovena

[Random]

where did that come from??? :D
You didn't see her perform on the Super Bowl Pre-Game Show? You lucked out. :p

Seen the trailer for Iron Man. Can't wait to watch in theater (or get the DVD).

Also seen the trailer for Disney/PIXAR Wall*E. He looks like a CG "cousin" of the robot in Short Circuit.

[MixedPlateBroker]

Five alive!1st down!

[lavagal]

EEEEEEEK! Yay Giants!

[Random]

It's over.

Giants over the Patriots, 17-14.

Everything is right with the world. Sucks to be you, Pats fans.

[mel]

Well I had my TV on for the entire game. I wasn't partial to any of the teams. Wasn't even watching much except for the commercials that caught my ear... and then Tom Petty of course.

However the 4th QTR... wow. That is what a championship game is supposed to be... lead changing hands in the last few minutes and seconds... game and record on the line... and the underdog wins. Wow!

Good for the network and sponsors. I would assume most of the audience stayed to the end, watching the exciting action and all of those expensive $2.7 million commercials.

[EastCoastTropics]

*sigh*

what a game....oh well.....

Lovena

[Random]

Yeah, it was down to the wire, after the 2-minute warning and the Giants ran out their timeouts.

[Random]

Somebody, give Terry Bradshaw a lozenge, man.

[tutusue]

Somebody, give Terry Bradshaw a lozenge, man.
Oh shoot...I missed the game and the commercials (which is why I watch the game) and I missed Bradshaw, too? Dayam! I have to take a tranquilizer just to watch him on Leno! :D

[pzarquon]

Great game, with all the fun packed into the last quarter. When the Patriots scored just ahead of the two minute warning, I could hear The Perfect Season theme song swelling. But then the next few heartstopper plays by the Giants yanked the needle off the record. That near sack that led to that wild helmet catch by Tyree alone was worth the price of admission. Then a touchdown with 35 seconds left to go. My wife's cheer scared the kids.

Those 35 seconds plus three time outs were an eternity for the Patriots, but they just couldn't do it. The Giants defense did a great job. That awkward wait for that last second kneel was a fitting end for the team that tried to trademark "19-0" almost a month before the big game. Bachi incarnate!

Yau, Giants. And it looks like our poll called it!

[nachodaddy]

Giselle stole Brady's mojo.

[Konaguy]

Great game :). I irritated my girlfriend whenever the Giants scored in the 3rd and 4th quarter :). I really didn't want to see Pats win.

[Random]

Giselle stole Brady's mojo.
Brady had a mojo?

[BuzzBomb]

Brady had a mojo?

Yep! He used it on someone other than Gisele (Bridget Moynahan) and produced a son (John Edward Thomas Moynahan).:D

[Random]

Yep! He used it on someone other than Gisele (Bridget Moynahan) and produced a son (John Edward Thomas Moynahan).:D
Ah, a mother's revenge is always sweet. :p

[shaveice]

You didn't see her perform on the Super Bowl Pre-Game Show? You lucked out. :p

[/i]

oh, you're cruel! ha! :D

[shaveice]

That near sack that led to that wild helmet catch by Tyree alone was worth the price of admission.


yeah, that was an amazing catch! i still can't believe the giants pulled it off! amazing! their defense was just terrific. remember the pass that manning blew? the guy was all alone and he overthrew the pass! i was biting the furniture in frustration!!! ha! ha!

[scrivener]

I was happy because I wanted the Giants to win, but disappointed because i hate picking the SuperBowl wrong. I'll try to regain my cred next season. :(

[craigwatanabe]

I wanted the Pats to win but despite their crowning loss to the Giants, those final few minutes was what it was all about.

[EastCoastTropics]

I wanted the Pats to win but despite their crowning loss to the Giants, those final few minutes was what it was all about.

I agree! For me the best play was when Manning broke away and threw the ball to Tyree! Wow, what a catch!

[jkpescador]

JET Moynahan.

[Bob P]

Coupla things

1) it was an outstanding superbowl. From a pure football standpoint it was historic.

2) Brady's mojo wasn't stolen by anyone other then the Giant's Defensive Coordinator.

The Pats played a great game, the Giants played a better one. Period. That's the beauty of football. Oh, and it was never the Pats trying to trademark 19-0. That was the press. No one on the team did any trash-talking all season long - they took it one game at a time. For that matter the Giants didn't indulge either. Both teams were very respectful of each other up to, during and after the game. IMO it was a very clean game & I loved it for that in spite of the outcome.

[Random]

oh, you're cruel! ha! :D
Any other days, but at that time, I was horny. :p

[shaveice]

Any other days, but at that time, I was horny. :p

ha! ha! i'm sure it's on youtube somewhere; will do a search later; saw a very short clip of her singing on some show tonight and she looked hot!

[mel]

Speaking of singing, Tom Petty's appearance on the Super Bowl half time show has spiked sales of his records.

On the iTunes Top 100 Hits of the Week

Free Fallin @ #30
I Won't Back Down @ #53
American Girl @ #70
Runnin' Down a Dream @ #93

Over at Amazon.com on their most popular MP3s chart:

Free Fallin @ #14
I Won't Back Down @ #30
Runnin' Down a Dream @ #33
American Girl @ #56

The SuperBowl drew 97.5 million viewers (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080205/tv_nm/superbowl_fox_dc_2;_ylt=Ahn6sEdLoT0kqTtEVNkQCqQG1v AI) into the Fox Network broadcast.

A record 97.5 million Americans tuned in to Sunday's upset victory by the New York Giants over the New England Patriots, marking the biggest TV audience in Super Bowl history and the second most-watched U.S. telecast ever.

The number of viewers watching the National Football League championship game was surpassed only by the 106 million who saw the series finale of "M*A*S*H" in February 1983, according to data issued on Monday by Nielsen Media Research.

Fox Network took in $250 million (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080204/media_nm/newscorp_superbowl_dc_1;_ylt=AmR6OlNYwaLtLK43DaNn0 gsG1vAI) in revenue for the SuperBowl broadcast.

[scrivener]

And this is why a guy like Tom Petty, who admits he has no interest in football, will perform a show like this. It's easily the largest audience he's ever had. When he took the stage, my dad said, "Who the heck is this guy?"

It surprises me some that "American Girl" is last in sales among the four songs. It's one of his best! And it's definitely better than the other three songs in this list.

[salmoned]

Yeah, but what's it got to do with football? All the other songs are more relevant to the viewers... Patriots free fallin', Giants runnin' down a dream and they won't back down!

[craigwatanabe]

Yeah it's amazing that there are so many who just "Discovered" Tom Petty. Seems them old rockers are gaining wider popularity. Heck even my 21-year old boy loves Eric Clapton.

Rock on man!! Long live rock n' roll.

[shaveice]

not to diss him but when i first heard some announcer mentioning tom petty as the half time show performer, i thought, "tom petty?" why him? in theory anyway, the biggest game of the season and they have tom petty? oh well; to each his own.

one final random thought: i'm so thankful that the giants' win was clearly not dependent on some controversial call by a ref. the giants clearly outplayed the pats. :)

[shaveice]

not to diss him but when i first heard some announcer mentioning tom petty as the half time show performer, i thought, "tom petty?" why him? in theory anyway, the biggest game of the season and they have tom petty? oh well; to each his own.

one final random thought: i'm so thankful that the giants' win was not dependent on some controversial call by a ref. the giants just outplayed the pats. :)

[craigwatanabe]

not to diss him but when i first heard some announcer mentioning tom petty as the half time show performer, i thought, "tom petty?" why him? in theory anyway, the biggest game of the season and they have tom petty? oh well; to each his own.

one final random thought: i'm so thankful that the giants' win was not dependent on some controversial call by a ref. the giants just outplayed the pats. :)

Why Tom Petty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petty)? That's just as bad as when my kid asked me, "Who is Jerry Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia)?"

Anything's gotta be better than last year's fiasco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy)

[shaveice]

Why Tom Petty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petty)? That's just as bad as when my kid asked me, "Who is Jerry Garcia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia)?"

Anything's gotta be better than last year's fiasco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy)

well, i know who tom petty is and his accomplishments but i was saying that he doesn't excite me as a performer; just my subjective opinion of his music.

as far as janet jackson goes, yeah, that was a low point and what a lame excuse! a wardrobe malfunction? that's as believable as dog's son saying that he spilt orange juice on his jeans and so was changing in his back seat! :eek: