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sansei
February 23rd, 2008, 09:29 PM
:) hi this is sansei and i was taught in my school day's that kapalama is one word and not two word's and it's not ka'palama and it's kapalama so i thought to share my View's with everyone.

well thank's for your time:)

scrivener
February 23rd, 2008, 09:35 PM
Just curious, but where did you go to high school?

kupomog
February 23rd, 2008, 09:37 PM
Yeeeah it's Kapālama, isn't it? At least it was drilled into my brain in Kapālama elementary school that we say and spell it like that. I dunno, I'm just scared and confused now http://members.aol.com/kudoshido/eyebrow.gif

sansei
February 23rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener,i went to mckinley high school only i learned the word Kapalama in mae mae elementary school and kawananakoa intermediate school and mostly learned my Pidgeon word's in mae mae elementary school in 1969 to the 70's so i hope this may help with your thought's?

Well thank's for your time:(

Frankie's Market
February 24th, 2008, 12:12 AM
:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener,i went to mckinley high school

Well Sansei, wanna know who else went to McKinley?

A couple of war heroes:

Daniel Inouye (who lost his right arm in WWII) and Tammy Duckworth (who lost her legs in Iraq)

A former Governor:

George Ariyoshi (the "Boy from Kalihi" who was scared fo go to Farrington!)

A local diva:

Carole Kai (Carole Shimizu)

A pro wrestler:

The Rock (Dwayne Johnson)

So turn that frown upside down, Sansei, because you are in some pretty good company. :)

Leo Lakio
February 24th, 2008, 10:37 AM
it's not ka'palamaWell, it certainly wouldn't be that, as `okina is considered a consonant in `olelo Hawai`i, and Hawaiian words never have two consonants together.

As a place name, the single word "Kapālama" seems appropriate, but the literal definition (something along the lines of "the sacred enclosure of lama wood") could be correctly written as two words, "ka pālama."

(Disclaimer: while I understand many of the rules of the Hawaiian language, I am in no way an expert.)

sansei
February 25th, 2008, 05:06 PM
:confused:hi this is sansei and i've always wondered on why as an american's that the hawaiian's would wish us american's to learn their language is that not everyone here would wish to learn their language and im not being incensitive only curious.Im not hawaiian and Im an american of Japanese Extraction and i only speak american and conversational japanese and im a person not interested in learning the hawaiian language so I Thought to share this with everyone.

well thank's for your time:confused:

scrivener
February 25th, 2008, 05:29 PM
i only speak american and conversational japanese and im a person not interested in learning the hawaiian language so I Thought to share this with everyone.
If you're not interested in learning any Hawaiian, why did you create this post and ask this question?

Leo Lakio
February 25th, 2008, 06:10 PM
i've always wondered on why as an american's that the hawaiian's would wish us american's to learn their language is that not everyone here would wish to learn their language and im not being incensitive only curious.I guess I see it as, at the very least, a courtesy. If, as an American, I chose to live in Japan, it would be helpful for me to learn Japanese. I would be able to better communicate with people there, for example, and I think you can see that it would be inconsiderate for me to expect them all to learn better English instead.

Yes, Hawai`i is part of America - but has only been so for a relatively short historical period. Remembering that it was a sovereign nation not too long ago, with its own distinct culture, history and language, helps me to see that it is wise to learn some Hawaiian. (And I don't even live there.)

I hope you find that to be one helpful answer, sansei.

lavagal
February 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM
You guys are far more gracious than me. Hat's off to you.

Frankie's Market
February 25th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Yes, Hawai`i is part of America - but has only been so for a relatively short historical period. Remembering that it was a sovereign nation not too long ago, with its own distinct culture, history and language, helps me to see that it is wise to learn some Hawaiian.

Hawaiian is, in fact, considered an official language of the state. If you wanted to give testimony in a court of law speaking Hawaiian, you could. (With interpreters provided.)

I have a friend who was taking a Hawaiian language course over at UH. He told me a story about how he was speaking Hawaiian to one of his classmates when they got into an elevator with an old lady. They continued talking while the lady said nothing. Then, the lady got off her floor and just after she stepped out of the car, she turned around and told them, "You're in America now. You should speak English." But before they could say anything to her, the doors closed shut.

Talk about being rude. :mad:

Leo Lakio
February 25th, 2008, 07:38 PM
"You're in America now. You should speak English." But before they could say anything to her, the doors closed shut.Perhaps her mind closed shut long before the elevator doors.

Mokihana
February 25th, 2008, 08:00 PM
:confused:hi this is sansei and i've always wondered on why as an american's that the hawaiian's would wish us american's to learn their language is that not everyone here would wish to learn their language and im not being incensitive only curious.Im not hawaiian and Im an american of Japanese Extraction and i only speak american and conversational japanese and im a person not interested in learning the hawaiian language so I Thought to share this with everyone.

well thank's for your time:confused:

I am learning to better speak Hawaiian because when I was a child we were forbidden to speak it at school. I may be an American citizen, but Hawai‘i is the land of my birth. Hawaiian is a beautiful language, and speaking and singing it enriches my life.

No one is saying you have to learn Hawaiian. That is your choice.

Glen Miyashiro
February 26th, 2008, 08:15 AM
:confused:hi this is sansei and i've always wondered on why as an american's that the hawaiian's would wish us american's to learn their language is that not everyone here would wish to learn their language and im not being incensitive only curious.Im not hawaiian and Im an american of Japanese Extraction and i only speak american and conversational japanese and im a person not interested in learning the hawaiian language so I Thought to share this with everyone.

well thank's for your time:confused:sansei has a point. He shouldn't have to learn Hawaiian, at least not before he learns English.

Peshkwe
February 26th, 2008, 08:50 AM
sansei has a point. He shouldn't have to learn Hawaiian, at least not before he learns English.


Or whoever has their hand up a sock puppet's...

ummm....er....cuff?

kani-lehua
February 26th, 2008, 06:38 PM
sansei has a point. He shouldn't have to learn Hawaiian, at least not before he learns English.

Are you saying that because there were many grammatical/spelling errors in the original poster's thread? If, so, I agree.

Kalihiboy
February 26th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Dwayne Johnson, "The Rock" definitely went to McKinley HS, my wife has her yearbook from her senior year that shows two pics of a freshman Dwayne Johnson in the freshman class photo and also another one on the football team. I think he moved to Philadelphia for his sophomore year and finished school there.

My high school had Lynda Carter as graduate, the blonde actress on Eight is Enough and Steven Spielberg went there a couple years long before I did. Alice Cooper's kids graduated from my school long after I departed, but I remember them as toddlers at the local McDonalds hanging out with their dad.

My oldest son will be going to Kapalama in the fall. My wife and sister-in-law went to school there.

Aj

dick
February 27th, 2008, 01:25 AM
i only speak american and conversational japanese and im a person not interested in learning the hawaiian language so I Thought to share this with everyone.

I scratch my head. Why are you starting a thread about the Hawaiian language if you don't give a rip about the Hawaiian language?

Might be time to take a time out, dude.

Mililani
April 17th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Maybe they decided to change how it is pronounced. When I talk to some of the employees of Kamehameha, they pronounce it as Kapa'lama. My sisters and I laugh about it all the time. My oldest sister whose the real crack up asked, "how come nobody wen buddah to tell me wen change?!" She says shes going to slap our parents and grandparents for not teaching us the "proper" way to pronounce the word.

I'm thinking they're gonna slap her in the head! LOL

akrauth
April 21st, 2008, 09:44 AM
Well Sansei, wanna know who else went to McKinley?

A couple of war heroes:

Daniel Inouye (who lost his right arm in WWII) and Tammy Duckworth (who lost her legs in Iraq)

A former Governor:

George Ariyoshi (the "Boy from Kalihi" who was scared fo go to Farrington!)

A local diva:

Carole Kai (Carole Shimizu)

A pro wrestler:

The Rock (Dwayne Johnson)

So turn that frown upside down, Sansei, because you are in some pretty good company. :)

And Alana (achow on here) too!