What do you think about?

[Menehune Man]

A Modern (2008) Hippie style movement?

I truly would hope that a "Peace and Love", let's do what's right agenda can happen. It is time.
Or are we just destined to War, Hate (racial, national, etc.), and Economics?

Can the generation X'ers do it? Do they want to?

[kani-lehua]

have you heard of the "rainbow people/tribe" who live on the big island? gary sprinkle did a segement about them http://www.kitv.com/video_legacy/15188893/index.html

[Menehune Man]

Rainbow Family!
Let's all join in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hAx5G0I9mU

I've had enough, have you?

[Menehune Man]

Hawaii Rainbow...
Hawai'i is full of rainbows, you might not even know you are one. What is rainbow to us? Sacred lands, green forests, blue skies, and the earth beneath our feet. Our ability to gather in community and to hold each other's energies in our hearts so that we may heal. Our conscious choice to live a little more simply.

And a link...
http://hawaiirainbow.tribe.net/

[LocalMotion]

A Modern (2008) Hippie style movement?

I truly would hope that a "Peace and Love", let's do what's right agenda can happen. It is time.
Or are we just destined to War, Hate (racial, national, etc.), and Economics?

Can the generation X'ers do it? Do they want to?

I've debated this topic with a friend. A peace/love living is just not possible. It's not that there aren't tons of people who would want this, but there are too many bad seeds to deal with.

What happens when someone/country starts taking advantage of your new found peace/love? Do you let them run you over or defend yourself?

Just because you claim peace, doesn't mean people will leave you be. There will always be those that will look to aggress, so we must always be on the defensive

[Menehune Man]

I've debated this topic with a friend. A peace/love living is just not possible. It's not that there aren't tons of people who would want this, but there are too many bad seeds to deal with.

What happens when someone/country starts taking advantage of your new found peace/love? Do you let them run you over or defend yourself?

Just because you claim peace, doesn't mean people will leave you be. There will always be those that will look to aggress, so we must always be on the defensive

True, but so sad, sad in deed.
I know...

[sinjin]

Why would we want to repeat that? Judging by subsequent history, the hippies accomplished very little and most of the adherents sold out eventually anyway. Those that didn't are today marginalized. One can move to Humboldt County, CA or Puna, HI and live as a hippie today.

[craigwatanabe]

The Hippies never left us. They grew up into activists and lawyers for the ACLU:D

Okay well not all of them. Today's youth is so wrapped up in individual agendas with things like iPods, iPhones, iThis and iThat. It's all about oneselves. Then there's the virtual interactions. It seems it's easier to play against each other in friendly combat with online gaming. Instead of going out and socializing you make virtual friends with the Sims.

How does a youthful generation reach out to the masses when they've grown up and plugged into their own virtually created world?

And yeah in Pahoa there is a community of Hari Krishnas that envelope that attitude of peace and love. The good thing is now they bathe. :D

[kani-lehua]

have tent--will travel. have beach--can shower?!

[Leo Lakio]

most of the adherents sold out eventually anyway.Interesting thought - purely anecdotal, of course. Is it actually "selling out" when some of the movement's tenets themselves became accepted into the mainstream?Those that didn't are today marginalized.By choice. The majority of real hippies (there were far fewer hippies than there were wannabes) declared their own public "death" of the movement in 1967, in order to take it out of the limelight, knowing that the life they wanted to lead couldn't be done in front of all the media attention generated by national stories about love-ins, Haight-Ashbury and drug use.

Most of what people today think of as "hippies" is based on that media-generated image, triggered by all the temporary followers who gathered in the Bay Area for the "Summer of Love" and carried on through Woodstock. But those aren't the original hippies, and most of them (again anecdotal, I admit, but based on my own life and connections) are still living the lifestyle they espoused, on farms and communal collectives, sometimes off the grid and generally off your radar.

[sinjin]

Interesting thought - purely anecdotal, of course. Is it actually "selling out" when some of the movement's tenets themselves became accepted into the mainstream?I was thinking more along the lines of homes, portfolios, voting GOP, etc. Which tenets do you see as mainstream today?

...most of them (again anecdotal, I admit, but based on my own life and connections) are still living the lifestyle they espoused, on farms and communal collectives, sometimes off the grid and generally off your radar. That would be the margin. If Pahoa ain't the margin of American society I don't know what is. I've lived in Humboldt. They burned the Taco-Bell down there. Too corporate apparently.

I must admit that I have no real affection for this subculture. Those representatives that I have had dealings with struck me as pretentious.

[Leo Lakio]

Which tenets do you see as mainstream today?Public recognition of the environmental movement developed from their efforts - anyone old enough to remember the Sixties will remember the promotion of Earth Day, the green "Ecology" flag, and the anti-pollution public service campaigns (remember Iron Eyes Cody and the single tear?) The EPA was created in 1970, pollution controls were imposed on industry, and recycling became a more mainstream activity. The hippy movement was more about getting back to the earth than about drugs, free love or rock music - those were peripheral promotional activities by the likes of Timothy Leary.That would be the margin.Yes. Please re-read and you'll see that I agree with you regarding the marginalization - just adding that it was by choice, not by default.