Colt Brennan Finally Drafted

[TuNnL]

Man, for awhile there, I thought Colt was going to miss getting drafted! I had him early 5th round, after taking into account his post-season performance as well as his injuries. I’m sure he’s just thankful Washington took a chance (http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=7024) on him. :o

[oceanpacific]

The way I see it, that WEAK schedule came back to haunt Colt and the rest of the team. So, it's Herman Frazier's fault! You remember him, that "lazy-ass procrastinator" who posed as our athletic director for 5-1/2 years!

[Mike_Lowery]

The way I see it, that WEAK schedule came back to haunt Colt and the rest of the team. So, it's Herman Frazier's fault! You remember him, that "lazy-ass procrastinator" who posed as our athletic director for 5-1/2 years!

Umm...did you not see his performance in the Sugar Bowl? or the Senior Bowl? How about that injured hip?

[Walkoff Balk]

Former NFL QB/ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski was really critical of Brennan as an NFL QB. Does anyone remember his comments?

[Frankie's Market]

At least Colt did get drafted. The same can't be said for Devone Bess and Ryan Grice-Mullins. No doubt they'll both get free agent offers and tryouts. But passing up their senior seasons at UH for this???

Yet another case of young athletes believing all the hype being fed to them by pro scouts and agents.

[Karen]

Am so very happy for him!

Rock it, Colt and aloha huggz~

[oceanpacific]

Umm...did you not see his performance in the Sugar Bowl? or the Senior Bowl? How about that injured hip?

Hey, Mike, I did see the Sugar Bowl and Senior Bowl. It was that schedule that was talked about all season long. The pundits conveniently forgot that Colt put up even bigger numbers in 2006 against a better OOC schedule: Alabama, Purdue, Oregon State, and Arizona State.

Besides, I never let any chance to bash Frazier get by .............. :D

[timkona]

Are you saying that Bess and Mullins cannot go back to school or play because they entered the draft?? Never knew that.

[Mike_Lowery]

Hey, Mike, I did see the Sugar Bowl and Senior Bowl. It was that schedule that was talked about all season long. The pundits conveniently forgot that Colt put up even bigger numbers in 2006 against a better OOC schedule: Alabama, Purdue, Oregon State, and Arizona State.

Besides, I never let any chance to bash Frazier get by .............. :D
Big name schools, but mediocre seasons in 2006.

[scrivener]

Colt's saying Washington's a good fit, and I'll give him that because it's too early to tell if Jason Campbell is the real deal. One season doesn't prove anything when it comes to QBs, and if Campbell proves to be a fluke, Colt's in a good position.

I was hoping to see him go to the Packers or Ravens, two teams where he could see action this year, but I'll take Washington.

[Mike_Lowery]

Colt's saying Washington's a good fit, and I'll give him that because it's too early to tell if Jason Campbell is the real deal. One season doesn't prove anything when it comes to QBs, and if Campbell proves to be a fluke, Colt's in a good position.

I was hoping to see him go to the Packers or Ravens, two teams where he could see action this year, but I'll take Washington.

I agree...Jim Zorn's WCO schemes work to the 'Skins QBs' advantage--they should develop well if they study the playbooks and practice hard...Colt promised to "become an animal" and do what is expected, IIRC.

[Frankie's Market]

Are you saying that Bess and Mullins cannot go back to school or play because they entered the draft?? Never knew that.

Any college underclassman that declares for the NFL draft renounces any NCAA eligibility he has left. So there's no going back, even if they are undrafted. Same thing too in basketball. (Remember Carl English?)

But as I predicted, they both got FA offers. Bess signed with Miami while Grice-Mullins hooked up with Houston. Of course, both of them are now going to have to prove themselves if they are to survive the preseason cuts.

[T. M. Kawika]

I'm happy for him.

And I live right outside of DC, so I'll be seeing a lot of him. I hope he does well.

(And the Redskins are my favorite team! I'm glad we got him.)

[Ron Whitfield]

After hearing all last season from teammates and coaches that the UH had some of the best recievers and linemen in the nation, and it seemed true, what's up with not one getting drafted?

[Mike_Lowery]

After hearing all last season from teammates and coaches that the UH had some of the best recievers and linemen in the nation, and it seemed true, what's up with not one getting drafted?

All of Hawaii's receivers had very poor showings in the NFL Combine ( I think Bess ran a 4.8 40yd dash--around the same speed expected of top offensive tackles and middle linebackers in the NFL).

Also, this year's draft was deep as hell. Look at the quality of the WRs who did get drafted.

And I know Hawaii fans hate hearing this--but the Warriors are system players.

[Frankie's Market]

And I know Hawaii fans hate hearing this--but the Warriors are system players.

What you say is true. I also wonder if Ashley Lelie's disappointing pro career has also contributed to the notion of June Jones skill players as being products of his system.

For all of the hype surrounding June Jones being able to develop and churn out NFL prospects at the skill positions, here are some sobering facts.

In 9 seasons at UH, JJ had 17 players selected in the NFL draft. Of those 17, 12 of them were lineman or linebackers. Including Colt, this means that only 5 skill players have been selected. And of those 5, 2 of them were drafted as running backs.

That leaves only one QB (Brennan) and 2 receivers (Ashley Lelie & Chad Owens) being selected in the NFL draft out of June Jones' vaunted run and shoot offense in 9 years.

Me thinks that prospective SMU recruits at the skill positions might want to mull that one over before buying into the hype about June Jones' star-making power.

[Ron Whitfield]

Thanx for the info, Mike. Disappointing.

I'd stay with Jones' star making abilities, as he can only work with what he has, and has done the best with them.

[scrivener]

In 9 seasons at UH, JJ had 17 players selected in the NFL draft. Of those 17, 12 of them were lineman or linebackers. Including Colt, this means that only 5 skill players have been selected. And of those 5, 2 of them were drafted as running backs.

That leaves only one QB (Brennan) and 2 receivers (Ashley Lelie & Chad Owens) being selected in the NFL draft out of June Jones' vaunted run and shoot offense in 9 years.
These are good numbers, but the sample size is just not large enough to generalize yet. Keep in mind that Hawaii players get far, far less press than similarly successful skill players on the mainland, not to mention far less television time. Add to that the fact that Hawaii's recruiting pool consists of high-school players on the mainland who are simply not deemed NFL material, or they'd be recruited by those other schools. Scouts love our linebackers and linemen because Hawaii does have the prime choice of big, muscular, quick Pacific-Islander-types. Jason Campbell, the Redskins' QB, is 6'5" and 233, an excellent physical specimen for that position. We got lots of 6'5" guys, but how many of them are 233?

The fact that Lelie and Owens were drafted says a LOT about the Jones offense and about Jones as a coach. Imagine what he's going to do with the recruiting pool SMU has. I'm willing to bet that you're going to see a lot more draftees from skill positions out of SMU.

It's the reality (for now, at least) of coaching in Hawaii.

As for Lelie being a disappointment, keep in mind that WR is one of the crapshoot positions in the draft. Scouts and GMs know it, I'm sure. In the 2002 draft, three WRs were selected: Donte Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, and Javon Walker. Until this year, when Stallworth had Tom Brady to throw to him, what had he accomplished in the NFL? Do you think that put a damper on Tennessee's status? I doubt it. And let's not forget that Javon Walker had Brett Favre. Who's been throwing the ball to Ashley Lelie?

[Mike_Lowery]

These are good numbers, but the sample size is just not large enough to generalize yet. Keep in mind that Hawaii players get far, far less press than similarly successful skill players on the mainland, not to mention far less television time. Add to that the fact that Hawaii's recruiting pool consists of high-school players on the mainland who are simply not deemed NFL material, or they'd be recruited by those other schools. Scouts love our linebackers and linemen because Hawaii does have the prime choice of big, muscular, quick Pacific-Islander-types. Jason Campbell, the Redskins' QB, is 6'5" and 233, an excellent physical specimen for that position. We got lots of 6'5" guys, but how many of them are 233?

The fact that Lelie and Owens were drafted says a LOT about the Jones offense and about Jones as a coach. Imagine what he's going to do with the recruiting pool SMU has. I'm willing to bet that you're going to see a lot more draftees from skill positions out of SMU.

It's the reality (for now, at least) of coaching in Hawaii.

As for Lelie being a disappointment, keep in mind that WR is one of the crapshoot positions in the draft. Scouts and GMs know it, I'm sure. In the 2002 draft, three WRs were selected: Donte Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, and Javon Walker. Until this year, when Stallworth had Tom Brady to throw to him, what had he accomplished in the NFL? Do you think that put a damper on Tennessee's status? I doubt it. And let's not forget that Javon Walker had Brett Favre. Who's been throwing the ball to Ashley Lelie?
Good point...hot garbage QB's...Griese, Vick, and *sigh* Alex Smith/Trent Dilfer

[oceanpacific]

ALEX SMITH ............. a "bust" from the get-go! I wanted the "Niners" to trade that pick (No. 1) to fill other needs, but ..............:eek:

[Frankie's Market]

The fact that Lelie and Owens were drafted says a LOT about the Jones offense and about Jones as a coach. Imagine what he's going to do with the recruiting pool SMU has. I'm willing to bet that you're going to see a lot more draftees from skill positions out of SMU.

Only time will tell, of course. But for your sake, don't bet your house on it. :)

I don't know if you're aware of it, but when June Jones was the receivers coach for the USFL's Houston Gamblers franchise, his run-and-shoot mentors there were Jack Pardee (head coach) and John Jenkins (offensive coordinator).

After the USFL folded, Pardee and Jenkins ended up coaching together at the University of Houston, where they installed the run-and-shoot and racked up passing record after passing record, much like Jones has done at Hawaii. Pardee was Houston's head coach from 1987 to '89 and when he left for the NFL, Jenkins took over from '90 to '92.

But even in a market like Houston, players coming out of Pardee/Jenkin's run-and-shoot were labeled as products of a system. Out of 17 players drafted out of Houston during the Pardee/Jenkins era, only 5 were skill players. And of those 5, two were QBs (Andre Ware and David Klingler) and one was a WR (Jason Phillips). Yikes, those numbers/ratio sound strikingly similar to that of June Jones in Hawaii.

And do we even want to talk about the colossal busts that were Ware's and Klingler's pro careers?

It's the reality (for now, at least) of coaching in Hawaii.

And a reality of coaching a run-and-shoot offense, no matter where you are.

As for Lelie being a disappointment, keep in mind that WR is one of the crapshoot positions in the draft. Scouts and GMs know it, I'm sure. In the 2002 draft, three WRs were selected: Donte Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, and Javon Walker. Until this year, when Stallworth had Tom Brady to throw to him, what had he accomplished in the NFL? Do you think that put a damper on Tennessee's status? I doubt it. And let's not forget that Javon Walker had Brett Favre. Who's been throwing the ball to Ashley Lelie?

Well now, it's my turn to say that you're generalizing here. A receiver has a poor/disappointing year, automatically blame the QB? I think a good analysis of a WR's performance goes much deeper than that.

It also needs to be said that good coaches/scouts recognize the merit of good receivers, even when they are sandbagged by less-than-great QBs. For example, there have been some years when Andre Rison and even Randy Moss were saddled by mediocre QBing. But few people in the know questioned the fact that they possessed pro bowl caliber ability/value. I don't know if the same can be said for Ashley Lelie.

[localmoco]

The lack of national media coverage has very little to do with the UH players' draft status. If a player has talent, the NFL scouts will find him no matter where he plays. There were first-rounders taken from Troy, Tennessee State, Delaware, East Carolina, etc. Every year it's like that.

This morning, Bobby Curran was blasting the television analysts like Ron Jaworski who gave Brennan poor ratings. But obviously all 32 NFL teams agreed that he was not a top pro prospect. So it's hard to argue that Jaworski is wrong. Of course, there are always a handful of players each year that the scouts miss on. So best of luck to Colt Brennan in the NFL. Who knows, maybe he can be like Tom Brady and prove them all wrong.

[TuNnL]

Colt's saying Washington's a good fit, and I'll give him that because it's too early to tell if Jason Campbell is the real deal. One season doesn't prove anything when it comes to QBs, and if Campbell proves to be a fluke, Colt's in a good position.Coach Greg McMackin makes the point in today’s Advertiser (http://honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080430/SPORTS02/804300416/1067/SPORTSFRONT) that his former colleague Jim Zorn is keeping three quarterbacks at Washington. So if anything, I would agree that gives them time to develop Colt Brennan, and nurture his success. Brennan seems to have done well being an understudy to Matt Leinert at Mater Dei High, and a redshirt season at Colorado before coming to Hawai‘i probably didn’t hurt his ability to adjust to the speed of D-I. Less money also means less pressure, and I think that’s just what Colton needs after a series of post-season mishaps.