Halawa murder-suicide

[sansei]

:( hi this is sansei and i heard on the news a lady was killed by her husband and then the husband killed himself so i thought to share this with everyone.

well thank's for your time:(

[Leo Lakio]

In the immortal words of Barney Rubble: "Gee, tanks, Fred."

[sansei]

:o hi this is sansei and in response to Leo Lakio,lol!:O)

Well thank's for your time:o

[SusieMisajon]

Let's see, now....it had to have something to do with either money or sex...or maybe he was depressed or nuts.

[1stwahine]

I don't find it funny that a man and a woman was killed. :mad: In fact, it is very depressing. Families are left behind to mourn and live with pain in their hearts. My MAMA was only ten years old when her father shot and killed her mom on Vineyard Blvd. over seventy years ago while her and her sister hid under the bed watching. She was left orphaned an raised in The Salvation Army Homes. My grand-parents are buried somewhere in the old Waialae Public Grave Yard which became Waialae Drive Inn.

[scrivener]

I don't think anyone thinks it's funny, 1stwahine, 'though I understand your discomfort. The blunt manner in which this thread was titled and the strange way the initial post was worded (with no real commentary) made me uncomfortable, too, which I think is why Leo Lakio responded the way he did. Then sansei didn't read that discomfort in Leo's post and responded in a way that made the whole thing even more discomforting.

Domestic violence is never something to joke about, 'though I don't see any joking here. I think it's a shame that when someone says "murder-suicide," we all know exactly what that means. Why do we have a term for this in our culture? Because it happens too frequently not to give it a name. I feel awful for the teenaged daughter who (according to the last thing I read) still hasn't been located by police.

[1stwahine]

According to this morning's Advertiser report, she was. I go get the the url.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/NEWS06/805280394/1001/&source=nletter-news

"Doble said she spoke yesterday to the couple's daughter, who is 18 and was not at home at the time of the shooting.

"I told (the daughter) to be strong," Doble said. "It's hard to be alone. Everything she made was perfect. It is so sad."

Lynn

[sansei]

:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener and 1st wahine,i didnt mean it to be lol,i only responded to leo lakio who may have not meant it to be lol.i know this isnt humor since the time when the guy from Kapahulu killed his wife and that was my Aunt's neighbor who the husband who had killed his wife committed suicide in jail so i apologize for posting this.

Well thank's for your time:(

[SusieMisajon]

How on earth was permission given to turn a cemetary into a drive-in?!

[1stwahine]

Sansei, Scriv explained it to me.

It's me...I'm having one of my moments. :(

It's a very touchy and personal topic for me.

Mahalo

Auntie Lynn

[1stwahine]

How on earth was permission given to turn a cemetary into a drive-in?!

When you Rich and you in Politics!:p

The Answer is Hiram Fong owned the land. Now the property has been turned into homes. :rolleyes: There is still a small section left as the cemetery. I need to go find them before it's too late.:o

Auntie Lynn

[Leo Lakio]

I don't think anyone thinks it's funny, 1stwahine, 'though I understand your discomfort. The blunt manner in which this thread was titled and the strange way the initial post was worded (with no real commentary) made me uncomfortable, too, which I think is why Leo Lakio responded the way he did. Then sansei didn't read that discomfort in Leo's post and responded in a way that made the whole thing even more discomforting.Thanks, Scrivener.

[Lei Liko]

It's a touchy subject for me as well.

Some of you may remember an Aiea man killling his son, daughter, and wife before shooting himself (http://starbulletin.com/2000/06/14/special/story10.html) in 1992. The only survivor was their 3 year old son, who played in the front yard for days by himself before neighbors found it strange and called the police. The man's wife was my auntie.

I remember the Star Bulletin captured powerful images of my cousin crying as the policeman carried him to our relatives.

That 3 year old son is now a grown 20 year old in Culinary School at KCC.

[lavagal]

It's a touchy subject for me as well.

Some of you may remember an Aiea man killling his son, daughter, and wife before shooting himself (http://starbulletin.com/2000/06/14/special/story10.html) in 1992. The only survivor was their 3 year old son, who played in the front yard for days by himself before neighbors found it strange and called the police. The man's wife was my auntie.

I remember the Star Bulletin captured powerful images of my cousin crying as the policeman carried him to our relatives.

That 3 year old son is now a grown 20 year old in Culinary School at KCC.


And somehow, the casualties grow up, fighting their own inner battles. Bless that young man. I cannot imagine his perspective. What a hard way to learn how to appreciate life and love.

[tutusue]

And somehow, the casualties grow up, fighting their own inner battles. Bless that young man. I cannot imagine his perspective. What a hard way to learn how to appreciate life and love.
Hopefully this young man has no memory of that tragic time that occurred when he was 3. That's an age where a child may or may not remember. At 18, the daughter of the subject of this thread will never forget.

A friend of the lady who was murdered mentioned on the news last night that the couple married just last Feb...3 months ago. It also sounded like she said something about the lady marrying for insurance reasons. I undertood that to mean health insurance. The friend had a strong accent so I caught only bits and pieces. Evidently the couple had already separated, the wife and her daughter were staying with family, and the wife returned to pick up some clothes thinking the husband was a work...according to one news report.

Such a sad situation as is the Dikitos (http://starbulletin.com/2008/04/27/news/story05.html)...4 children left behind; the oldest at 18 is a father himself and left in charge of his 3 minor aged sisters.

[WindwardOahuRN]

What a terribly sad thread.

When I worked in child and adolescent psych (a short but memorable period in my career) it was a terrible revelation to see how many children being admitted to that locked county unit had stories of unimaginable horror in their histories. Murder of a family member was an all-too-common theme.

So tragic.

[Peshkwe]

It's got to be something going around. There was the same thing here this past weekend...the boy left behind is in some of my daughter's classes.

[SusieMisajon]

When you Rich and you in Politics!:p

The Answer is Hiram Fong owned the land. Now the property has been turned into homes. :rolleyes: There is still a small section left as the cemetery. I need to go find them before it's too late.:o

Auntie Lynn
Isn't it usual to dig up the bodies and rebury them somewhere else, when a cemetary is moved?

[kani-lehua]

http://www.khon2.com/news/local/19341699.html

apparently, the mother and daughter were victims of abuse and the daughter has said that her step-father sexually abused her for years. it was also reported that the daughter doesn't get much support from other family members and are blaming her for her mother's death. a very sad situation.