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Kalalau
June 5th, 2008, 02:43 AM
Hope nobody minds me asking but I was wondering...
Hawaiians have been famous for memorizing the family history back many generations, the question is, does this still happen?

I was also wondering, did members of the kaua- class have, and memorize family histories?

Also regarding the kaua-, I imagine it would be the wish of virtually every Hawaiian to have the original government restored (is this a correct assumption?) , but would members of the kaua- class, or people who would have been its members, feel the same way? And about what per centage of the population would have been kaua-?

As to the mele mai, what would a typical performance have consisted of? Was it the mele mai that motivated the missionaries to ban hula entirely? Is mele mai ever performed now, and if so where? Is there any resource for researching the mele mai?

Thanks very much for information. If these questions give offense I apologize, that is not my intention. Thank you again.

Glen Miyashiro
June 5th, 2008, 07:45 AM
Kalalau, you've got a bunch of interesting questions but you'd probably be better off asking each question in a separate post.

Pua'i Mana'o
June 5th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Hope nobody minds me asking but I was wondering...
Hawaiians have been famous for memorizing the family history back many generations, the question is, does this still happen?

yes.

I was also wondering, did members of the kaua- class have, and memorize family histories?

yes. Kauā as the "outcasts" weren't just lowly children born from lowly parents. Often kauā were deposed aliʻi and their immediate kin.

Also regarding the kaua-, I imagine it would be the wish of virtually every Hawaiian to have the original government restored (is this a correct assumption?) , but would members of the kaua- class, or people who would have been its members, feel the same way? And about what per centage of the population would have been kaua-?

hard to say. Don't limit your understanding to caste system parallels.

As to the mele mai, what would a typical performance have consisted of? Was it the mele mai that motivated the missionaries to ban hula entirely? Is mele mai ever performed now, and if so where? Is there any resource for researching the mele mai?

Mele maʻi, in terms of hula, is as "typical" as any other "typical" hula. In other words, no two are alike. Mele maʻi are taught and performed today; they are a cherished part of the pantheon of chant used in hula.

No, it wasn't the mele maʻi in particular that flipped out the missionaries. It was all of it; akua/aumakua/kupuna veneration. The mele maʻi is part and parcel of that veneration (long live someone's line through these fertile and powerful descendant-bearing loins).

Thanks very much for information. If these questions give offense I apologize, that is not my intention. Thank you again.[/QUOTE]

Kalalau
June 5th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Thank you! I appreciate your time and information.