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TuNnL
June 21st, 2008, 12:45 PM
Please be sure to comment on your reason for making the choice you did, after voting. ;)

SusieMisajon
June 21st, 2008, 12:51 PM
Obama...cause he's a local boy.

Walkoff Balk
June 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
Obama is the only candidate who can knock it down from the 3 point line.

Vanguard
June 21st, 2008, 01:12 PM
I'm still waiting to see who gets chosen to be the VP candidates. I hope I'll still find Obama to be an appealing candidate by then :)

scrivener
June 21st, 2008, 01:18 PM
Obama's victory on the Hawaii ballot is a sure thing, so I am free to vote with my party for Bob Barr.

timkona
June 21st, 2008, 01:22 PM
Give me another 2 months, then I might start leaning one way or tother. No doubt one guy knows about war, and we seem to be in one at the moment. No doubt the other guy has too little experience (hopefully) to be swayed by the institution of industrial government, and therefore might have more sympathy for the common man.

TuNnL
June 21st, 2008, 01:34 PM
I'm still waiting to see who gets chosen to be the VP candidates. I hope I'll still find Obama to be an appealing candidate by then :)According to the Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/edwards_nunn_re.html), a congresswoman has actually confirmed that John Edwards and Sam Nunn are on Obama’s short list. That should please timkona. ;)

Walkoff Balk
June 27th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Obama is the only candidate who can knock it down from the 3 point line.

Cool! Obama has the cool factor. McCain can compete with his old guy cool. Cool old guys include Clint Eastwood, Jack Nicholson, Paul Newman, and Morgan Freeman.

Kalalau
June 28th, 2008, 05:58 AM
I wanted Hillary to be the nominee because she would have had connectioins and experience that Senator Obama does not. But I will be voting for Obama and wishing him all the luck in the world in dealing with the disaster Mr. Bush has produced. It is my fear that Mr. Bush will find some excuse for "postponing" the elections. I can't imagine anyone with his degree of criminal liability giving up power.

TuNnL
June 28th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Obama's victory on the Hawaii ballot is a sure thing, so I am free to vote with my party for Bob Barr.I will probably end up voting for Barr as well...but is he really a Libertarian? Or is he just using the party to mount a third-party run and ride the coattails of the Ron Paul Revolution?

I wanted Hillary to be the nominee because she would have had connectioins and experience that Senator Obama does not.I could never vote for Hillary because she voted for the Iraq War and refused to apologize. She voted for the USA Patriot Act, which is now used to spy on Americans by the Bush Administration. She used race as a wedge and hinted that Obama should be assassinated. And finally, she has a husband who allowed (http://hawaiithreads.com/showpost.php?p=197008&postcount=486) hundreds of million$ worth of cocaine to be shipped into Arkansas as governor, because like his rock-star brother Roger, was a cocaine addict.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, voted against authorizing the Iraq War and voted against the USA Patriot Act. He has never voted to raise taxes. Unlike McCain and Obama, he would immediately bring our troops home. He would eliminate the IRS, the Federal Reserve, and the Department of Homeland Security. And most importantly, he has come out publicly against the New World Order (http://hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=12729).

cynsaligia
June 28th, 2008, 03:20 PM
I could never vote for Hillary because she voted for the Iraq War and refused to apologize.

for someone who never apologizes himself for, among other things, accusing people wrongfully of having "hidden agendas" or for making comments about other people's resumes (which you've never seen), this is utterly laughable.

sansei
June 28th, 2008, 03:38 PM
:o hi this is sansei and i would Vote for John Mccain is he has what bush has,experience not like Obama who's never been in war and wouldnt know what to do if not saying it would happen,if it happen's a possible future war,he'd know how to send out troops as he see's fit and bring home one's that served their time and even if clinton had the nomination,she would be like this:O( She wouldnt know what to do if war came about.

Well thank's for your time:o

scrivener
June 28th, 2008, 04:31 PM
:o hi this is sansei and i would Vote for John Mccain is he has what bush has,experience not like Obama who's never been in war
I'm sorry. Which war was President Bush in?

and wouldnt know what to do if not saying it would happen,if it happen's a possible future war,he'd know how to send out troops as he see's fit and bring home one's that served their time and even if clinton had the nomination,she would be like this:O( She wouldnt know what to do if war came about.
Why do you keep saying "would" and "if war came about?" Are you aware that there IS a war going on, and that we started it and that there is no apparent end in sight, nor any meaningful plan to resolve it?

scrivener
June 28th, 2008, 04:44 PM
I will probably end up voting for Barr as well...but is he really a Libertarian? Or is he just using the party to mount a third-party run and ride the coattails of the Ron Paul Revolution?
Usually when I vote for the Libertarian presidential candidate, I'm not really voting for the candidate but for the party and its continued inclusion on future ballots in this state.

sansei
June 28th, 2008, 04:58 PM
:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener.i realize that a war is going on only say's it's a future war when mccain is still president,then if their could happen to be a future war,he'd mccain would know what to do and bush even from what i heard served in the military so he knew what to do and same with mccain,i hope this may help with your thoughts?


Well thank's for your time:(

cynsaligia
June 28th, 2008, 05:04 PM
...and bush even from what i heard served in the military so he knew what to do and same with mccain...

bush was in the texas national guard during the vietnam war years but never went to war. in fact, it looks like he and his prominent family did what they could so that he could avoid actually fighting.

mccain, on the other hand, actually went to vietnam and was a prisoner of war.

scrivener
June 28th, 2008, 05:06 PM
:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener.i realize that a war is going on only say's it's a future war when mccain is still president,then if their could happen to be a future war,he'd mccain would know what to do
So you're going to pick a candidate based on what he could do if a FUTURE war were begun, and not based on what he WILL do about the CURRENT war?

and bush even from what i heard served in the military so he knew what to do and same with mccain,i hope this may help with your thoughts?
No, this doesn't help with my thoughts at all. Please read this part (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Texas_Air_National_Guard) of President Bush's biography at Wikipedia, and see if that helps with YOUR thoughts.

sansei
June 28th, 2008, 05:47 PM
:( hi this is sansei and in response to scrivener,i read it and understand what is posted only he was in the texas air national guard which proves he was in the military even though he didnt actually fight in the war and i agree that mccain was a prisoner of war only these are the similaritie's which both have and they have their similarite's on both part's and this would be on why i vote mccain since he's somewhat like bush.

wel thank's for your time:(

Sharilyn
June 28th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Dang. I can't change my vote... can I?

Keanu
June 28th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Obama, because he will support the Hawaiian people.

scrivener
June 28th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Obama, because he will support the Hawaiian people.
I hadn't heard this angle before. What has he said about Hawaiian issues?

TuNnL
June 28th, 2008, 08:23 PM
Dang. I can't change my vote... can I?If you could, who would vote for instead? Maybe admin can accomodate you. :confused:

Walkoff Balk
June 28th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Dang. I can't change my vote... can I?

I think you punched a hole for Pat Bucannon.

scrivener
June 28th, 2008, 08:31 PM
If you could, who would vote for instead? Maybe admin can accomodate you. :confused:
Nah, I think we should leave it, and start a new poll each month up to November. See if numbers change.

Frankie's Market
June 28th, 2008, 08:49 PM
I hadn't heard this angle before. What has he said about Hawaiian issues?

Good question. He seldom ever talks about Hawaii on the campaign trail. In fact, his latest TV commercial plays up his roots in Kansas and the Heartland, with no mention of Hawaii or Indonesia.

Keanu
June 28th, 2008, 09:29 PM
I hadn't heard this angle before. What has he said about Hawaiian issues?

Good question. He seldom ever talks about Hawaii on the campaign trail. In fact, his latest TV commercial plays up his roots in Kansas and the Heartland, with no mention of Hawaii or Indonesia.

Obama understands Hawai'i history better than any of the other candidates.

Plus, earlier this year, he provided the following comments in response to a question on the Akaka Bill:

“This is an important bill, and if it is not signed into law this year, I will commit to supporting it as president. The process set forth in this important legislation empowers Native Hawaiians to explore and address the longstanding issues resulting from the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai'i. As Americans, we pride ourselves on safeguarding the practice and ideas of liberty, justice and freedom. By enacting this legislation, we can continue this great American tradition and fulfill this promise for Native Hawaiians and ensure that they are not left behind as Hawai'i continues to progress.”

Keanu
June 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM
I hadn't heard this angle before. What has he said about Hawaiian issues?

Good question. He seldom ever talks about Hawaii on the campaign trail. In fact, his latest TV commercial plays up his roots in Kansas and the Heartland, with no mention of Hawaii or Indonesia.

Obama understands Hawai'i history better than any of the other candidates.

Plus, earlier this year, he provided the following comments in response to a question on the Akaka Bill:

“This is an important bill, and if it is not signed into law this year, I will commit to supporting it as president. The process set forth in this important legislation empowers Native Hawaiians to explore and address the longstanding issues resulting from the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai'i. As Americans, we pride ourselves on safeguarding the practice and ideas of liberty, justice and freedom. By enacting this legislation, we can continue this great American tradition and fulfill this promise for Native Hawaiians and ensure that they are not left behind as Hawai'i continues to progress.”

Leo Lakio
June 28th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Usually when I vote for the Libertarian presidential candidate, I'm not really voting for the candidate but for the party and its continued inclusion on future ballots in this state.In a different thread a few weeks ago, I speculated as to whether or not you would vote for Barr (I didn't say it at the time, but I was wondering about his questionable credentials as a Libertarian, as noted by TuNnL). Your reasoning for voting Libertarian makes sense to me. I may or may not agree with it (depends on the mood you catch me in), but it makes sense nonetheless.

Vanguard
June 29th, 2008, 04:05 AM
Obama understands Hawai'i history better than any of the other candidates.

I think we can safely say that Obama understands Hawai'i better than any US President, as well. :)

TuNnL
June 29th, 2008, 04:32 AM
I think we can safely say that Obama understands Hawai'i better than any US President, as well. :)Considering his main competition for that moniker is Grover Cleveland and Bill Clinton, I would have to agree. ;)

Sharilyn
June 29th, 2008, 08:38 AM
I think you punched a hole for Pat Bucannon.

Hah! I voted 'undecided'. I'll just leave it... polls don't matter, right? ;)

SusieMisajon
June 29th, 2008, 10:48 AM
I wanted Hillary to be the nominee because she would have had connectioins and experience that Senator Obama does not. But I will be voting for Obama and wishing him all the luck in the world in dealing with the disaster Mr. Bush has produced. It is my fear that Mr. Bush will find some excuse for "postponing" the elections. I can't imagine anyone with his degree of criminal liability giving up power.

I've said for years that I suspect another 'emergency' type of attack, used as an excuse to stay in power.

TuNnL
August 6th, 2008, 10:48 AM
With all of the rhetoric and controversy surrounding Barack Obama’s multi-national overseas trip, and John McCain’s mocking of the tour using Paris and Britney, how is it affecting voter sentiment? A new poll (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/31436/seven_point_lead_for_obama_in_us_race) conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, shows Obama with seven-point lead over his nearest rival. What I thought was of greater note is the growing interest in third party candidates.
http://www.angus-reid.com/upimg/usa_bo51_jm44.jpg (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/31436/seven_point_lead_for_obama_in_us_race)

salmoned
August 6th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Ditto what scriv said. I'm no party dude, but I know we need more of 'em. ;)

Random
August 6th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Obama, because he will support the Hawaiian people.
The United States of America did not annexed Hawaii. Hawaii annexed the United States of America.

Random
August 6th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Ditto what scriv said. I'm no party dude, but I know we need more of 'em. ;)
As much as Italy's political party system?

AlohaKine
August 6th, 2008, 07:48 PM
With all of the rhetoric and controversy surrounding Barack Obama’s multi-national overseas trip, and John McCain’s mocking of the tour using Paris and Britney, how is it affecting voter sentiment? A new poll (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/31436/seven_point_lead_for_obama_in_us_race) conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, shows Obama with seven-point lead over his nearest rival. What I thought was of greater note is the growing interest in third party candidates.

Michael Jackson should be president :rolleyes:. Think about it he's;
1. "Experienced" with managing large amounts of money.
2. He has worldwide name recognition.
3. He's experienced in getting before a large crowd.
4. He's not afraid to take the less popular path when he believes it is the right thing to do.
5. He's black like Obama and not afraid to be white.
6. He'd make a good wartime president because he is used to conflict.

It's time we had our second President Jackson in office. :D

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/Mugshot__michael-jackson.jpg

Random
August 6th, 2008, 09:00 PM
It's time we had our second President Jackson in office. :D

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/Mugshot__michael-jackson.jpg
He looks like a descendant of Marcel Marceau.

Composite 2992
August 6th, 2008, 09:49 PM
[QUOTE=AlohaKine;204890]
It's time we had our second President Jackson in office. :D

Now imagine THAT mugsghot being on our currency! There would be less counterfeiting going on simply because it's so repulsive... :-)

Composite 2992
August 6th, 2008, 09:51 PM
I'd vote for Obama... he understands the principle of diversity better than some other candidates, and that's an important aspect of diplomacy in today's world.

Random
August 7th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Now imagine THAT mugsghot being on our currency! There would be less counterfeiting going on simply because it's so repulsive... :-)
Apparently not repulsive to countries that consider him as a demi-god.

Frankly, they can have him.

cyleet99
August 7th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Hands down John McCain. He is the only one of all the candidates that has a good handle on the job of being the leader of the free world.

Every time I see Barack Obama lean forward in his chair and put out his right hand before he answers a question, I wince at the orchestrated methodology of his campaign and his waffling words. He aims to satisfy everyone at the expense of reality, all in order to get the vote. If he becomes the president, I am positive this pattern will continue. His life and political experience is very limited, and what he has is already full of controversy.

As so well stated by Senator Clinton (whom I might have slightly considered voting for,) "let’s get everybody together, let’s get unified; the sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect.” NOT.

Home boy or not, the future of the free world is at stake.

TuNnL
August 8th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Hands down John McCain. He is the only one of all the candidates that has a good handle on the job of being the leader of the free world.Can you give me an example of how he has “a good handle on the job”? From what I’ve seen so far, he seems pretty clueless and has waffled even more then Obama (which is a difficult feat :eek:).

Ron Whitfield
August 8th, 2008, 10:35 AM
4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years