Outcome of Penance

[Seeking Penance]

I am diffrent flavors to diffrent people.

I've contemplated with what to write about me. Should I allow this to be an informal or formal introduction.

A dear friend once quoted "I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

I came across Hawaii Threads roughly 3 weeks ago simply by networking with several long time chat buddies. I found it interesting; that we all have our own diffrent ways of expressing our opinions; be it humorous or insulting, our opinions reflects our views towards our individuality.

As for me....I am diffrent smiles to the wicked; diffrent tones to the spitting ignorance. My purpose in life is my happiness. I welcome that happiness with profound humility. I am careful with my words. I dislike to play with my words. I am an old soul with a bright spirit. My opinions are the death of me at times. My imperfections reflects the quality of my honest mistakes; with patience I grasp that last ounce of humility to decipher what is wrong and what is right. I am an imperfect soul....it is daunting at times to perfect what the eye of society spits outward as perfection.

I don't have secrets; I have tales to tell. I am an endless novel of pleasure and sorrow. I dislike negative energy; I see it as wasted energy.

Hawaii is my second home. Brooklyn, New York is my home.

Life is definetly a challenge at times; it comes at you without warning from diffrent angles. It would be a vicious lie If I admit I am that humble to shield venom that spits directly at me. I am still learning to become an adult; it is exhausting at times; it is an endless process. I ask question(s) out of concern and doubt. I answer them with conviction.

I am in the finance industry full time and part time. On my spare time I am a Freelance Journalist. I am working on a degree in Journalism and Creative Writing in hopes of becoming an author. I do hope I'll have the chance to network with you folks in due time.

Mahalo and Malama Pono.

[cynsaligia]

perhaps i'm missing something here, bcs i'm perturbed: isn't penance something one does, versus seeks?

[Menehune Man]

1) I am different flavors to different people.
2) "I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".


3) ... isn't penance something one does, versus seeks?

Howzit and welcome. Enjoy!
1) Cool.
2) I really like that.
3) Quick definitions (penance)

▸ noun: a Catholic sacrament; repentance and confession and satisfaction and absolution
▸ noun: voluntary self-punishment in order to atone for some wrongdoing
▸ noun: remorse for your past conduct

[Leo Lakio]

I am careful with my words. I dislike to play with my words.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
On my spare time I am a Freelance Journalist. I am working on a degree in Journalism and Creative Writing in hopes of becoming an author.
Excellent plan, SP. I like your writing style already.

May I humbly recommend you put a little additional focus on your spelling, as there are a number of errors in your post? Just as a carver does not work with dull tools, a writer's words should also be sharpened.

[lavagal]

I'd say you were DIFFERENT. Especially as a free-lance writer. I'd actually want to come across as someone who can spell.

[kani-lehua]

perhaps SP was typing so fast and did note the typographical/grammatical errors? maybe SP didn't have time to go over and edit said post.

"I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

aren't we all? welcome to ht.

[1stwahine]

I am diffrent flavors to diffrent people.

A dear friend once quoted "I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

As for me....I am diffrent smiles to the wicked; diffrent tones to the spitting ignorance. My purpose in life is my happiness. I welcome that happiness with profound humility. I am careful with my words. I dislike to play with my words. I am an old soul with a bright spirit. My opinions are the death of me at times. My imperfections reflects the quality of my honest mistakes; with patience I grasp that last ounce of humility to decipher what is wrong and what is right. I am an imperfect soul....

:) :) :)

Write on.

And welcome to HawaiiThreads.com

Auntie Lynn

[Leo Lakio]

perhaps SP was typing so fast and did note the typographical/grammatical errors? maybe SP didn't have time to go over and edit said post.

"I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

aren't we all?Indeed. But most of us do not proclaim that we are "careful with (our) words," while also expressing an intention to become a professional writer. Multiple instances of the same error ("diffrent") imply more than simple sloppiness due to speed.

But I hope that this statement:My imperfections reflects the quality of my honest mistakes; with patience I grasp that last ounce of humility to decipher what is wrong and what is right.suggests an openness to correction and improvement. Were it not for the stated desire to pursue a future in writing, I would likely have let the errors in the post slide by without comment.

[kani-lehua]

agreed, Leo. i counted 6x that "different" was mispelled. however, should SP decide to pursue a future in writing, his/her word processing program would perform the editing, grammar and spell check, no?

**holds up shield to protect face from being spat upon**

refer to SP's original post where the verb "spit" is used 2x.

please excuse my warped sense of humor. must be sun stroke from this morning's walk.:p

[Leo Lakio]

agreed, Leo. i counted 6x that "different" was mispelled. however, should SP decide to pursue a future in writing, his/her word processing program would perform the editing, grammar and spell check, no?

**holds up shield to protect face from being spat upon**Not from me - this ain't a spit-worthy topic!

SP may also decide to keep their own unique spellings intact, as part of their creative art, and disagree with whatever spell-check suggestions might pop up; that's fine, too. I wouldn't want to change a thing about the pidgin-based poetry of bradajo (http://www.bradajo.com/), for example.

SP - if we haven't scared you away with all this nitpicking - please DO pursue your goal to be a writer. I have no wish to discourage you - and my comments are mild, compared to what you will someday face irl. Just push on through, if you so desire. As the Dalai Lama once said (paraphrasing from memory here): "If anything I've said is useful to you, great. If not, just ignore it."

[kani-lehua]

"Not from me - this ain't a spit-worthy topic!"

agreed. no spit spat from me either.

[cynsaligia]

had a chuckle over the "spit spat." it reminds me that other, less pleasant things can be spat...like green gobs phlegm.

If sp is interested in blending his interest in journalism and creative writing, he could consider creative non-fiction. i'm in the philippines visiting family and in quiet moments, am having a ball reading david sedaris' "when you are engulfed in flames." it's a collection of non-fiction stories written with a creative flair.

[salmoned]

Pure, putrescent, pretentious poopycock [sic].

"I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

This means your flaws are held together by your flaws. As such, what have you to offer other than yet another bad example?

"I dislike to play with my words." He says as he plays with his words.
"I am careful with my words." He says as he errs markedly with his words.
"I am an old soul with a bright spirit." Here comes those flaws again.
"I don't have secrets; I have tales to tell." He says, 'I know no truth, but will tell lies', as truth is always and only a secret, though often shrouded in tall tales.
"I am an endless novel of pleasure and sorrow." Another verbose, literary hedonist.
"I dislike negative energy; I see it as wasted energy." Energy is energy, reject all you wish, more remains for those with purpose.

Life is easy, the challenge is death. If and when you conquer it, you'll be an adult.

[Leo Lakio]

SP's response to salmoned already exists:I found it interesting; that we all have our own diffrent ways of expressing our opinions; be it humorous or insulting, our opinions reflects our views towards our individuality.

[salmoned]

LOL, if you believe that's a response to my post, you're in a delusion similar to the OP's. Fortunate for both of you, it is one shared by many. Therefore, Go Forth and Relate.

[kani-lehua]

Pure, putrescent, pretentious poopycock [sic].

"I am made entirely of flaws; stitched together with good intentions".

This means your flaws are held together by your flaws. As such, what have you to offer other than yet another bad example?

"I dislike to play with my words." He says as he plays with his words.
"I am careful with my words." He says as he errs markedly with his words.
"I am an old soul with a bright spirit." Here comes those flaws again.
"I don't have secrets; I have tales to tell." He says, 'I know no truth, but will tell lies', as truth is always and only a secret, though often shrouded in tall tales.
"I am an endless novel of pleasure and sorrow." Another verbose, literary hedonist.
"I dislike negative energy; I see it as wasted energy." Energy is energy, reject all you wish, more remains for those with purpose.

Life is easy, the challenge is death. If and when you conquer it, you'll be an adult.


both a philosophical and creative approach/interpretation of the original post. me thinks, however, that Seeking Penance has reached the age of majority, now generally 21 years old thereby making him/her an adult.

[Likeke]

.. nice intro! .. welcome aboard, SP!! :)

[Leo Lakio]

LOL, if you believe that's a response to my postMore of a pre-sponse, actually.

Thanks to SP for an intriguing thread, instigating an unexpected philosophical discussion.

[Amati]

: o hi this is amati and at least penance knows how to make his thoughts into more than just one long sentence and knows how to throw in some punctuation once in a while which is very cool.

Well thank's for your time:O)

[turtlegirl]

: o hi this is amati and at least penance knows how to make his thoughts into more than just one long sentence and knows how to throw in some punctuation once in a while which is very cool.

Well thank's for your time:O)

Haaaaa! HaHa!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!! Post of the day!! :D

Welcome SP!

[cynsaligia]

maybe so but SP didn't suffer a childhood head injury either.

[lavagal]

maybe so but SP didn't suffer a childhood head injury either.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But then again, I sense some flaw.

[Amati]

maybe so but SP didn't suffer a childhood head injury either.
Now how the heck do you know that about SP? Gee, maybe SP has a spelling disability (dyslexia), where is the mercy being shown to newbie SP?

But, also for consideration, what is actually more helpful to someone - to remind and help teach life skills, or to continually overlook challenging areas so that there is no encouragement towards improvement?

[kani-lehua]

we're all "diffrent" li'dat.

dat's why hahd.

[lavagal]

Now how the heck do you know that about SP? Gee, maybe SP has a spelling disability (dyslexia), where is the mercy being shown to newbie SP?

But, also for consideration, what is actually more helpful to someone - to remind and help teach life skills, or to continually overlook challenging areas so that there is no encouragement towards improvement?

Wait a minute, is SP having fun yet? Let's remember this person said they were a free-lance journalist so why can't we expect them to make an effort at simple spelling? When someone pronounces they are "careful with their words," then we can draw attention to the fact that actually they are not.

[cynsaligia]

sansei is nothing if not completely genuine always. i find that undeniably admirable in him.

there are those here who are sansei's lesser in that aspect and more.

[Amati]

- is nothing if not completely genuine always. i find that undeniably admirable in him.
So nice of you to identify him by name.

[cynsaligia]

of course, amati. i was being complimentary towards sansei. why shouldn't i have said his name?

btw, since i'm currently on the eastern shore of the philippines, i'm the closest i'll ever be to your chinese ancestors. guess what? not a boo from them yet.

[Seeking Penance]

Seeking Penance is tickled blue. Seeking Penance is male. Seeking Penance welcomes opinions, criticism etc.

I am not easily intimidated. I have heard the worst but I am sure I have not heard all of it yet. I am built to last.

I found myself a new home with Hawaii Threads. Thank you all for welcoming me with insults and criticism. I like it rough and dirty.

Seeking Penance was thrown at me by surprise; in due time I will explain. In the mean time I will work on my spelling. *kicks the wall*

English is my second language. (Is that plenty enough excuse?)

I am home at last.

Till we chat again.

If I have mispelled a word; punish me. (lol)

[Menehune Man]

Right on SP!!! :cool:

Gotta luv it li'dat. ;)

[cynsaligia]

so, sp, since english is not your first language, does that mean that you freelance write in another language?

or does it mean you extensively use a copy editor?

[Leo Lakio]

Seeking Penance is tickled blue.
In the mean time I will work on my spelling. *kicks the wall*
English is my second language. (Is that plenty enough excuse?)

Wonderful!
Good for you. (No need to punish the wall.)
Plenty, thanks.

What is your first language, if I may be so bold? I'd wager that my spelling in that language would be abominable, and my fluency would be ... well, non-existant. So your English-language skills would surpass my skills in any other language.

Looking forward to hearing your stories.

Check out this thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=14074) from last fall - it talks about spell-checking posts on HT, and may provide some ideas for you.

[1stwahine]

Seeking Penance is tickled blue. Seeking Penance is male. Seeking Penance welcomes opinions, criticism etc.

I am not easily intimidated. I have heard the worst but I am sure I have not heard all of it yet. I am built to last.

Das how...go with flow.

Main ting, you have FuN!

Life is Short!;)

Love and ALOHA,

Auntie Lynn

[MyopicJoe]

Sup SP. Welcome to HT :)


SP has a style of writing which takes more work to read. It clashes with the conversational style the journalists and writers here strive for. They know most people are lazy readers, who will skip over an article if it takes too much effort. Mass media writers work hard to develop an eye (and ear) for spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Mistakes which most of us don't even notice, stick out like a sore thumb to them. It bugs them in the same way a mainlander who tries to speak pidgin would bug you.

I have a friend who used to live in NYC but flew every month to the Czech Republic, to conduct an orchestra there. His ear is so well trained, he can't stand pop music. I once played my favorite Sarah McLachlan song for him, and he actually winced in pain:

"Turn it off!"
"What? What's wrong?"
"Why does she do THAT with her voice?"
"Do what?"
"She <long technical description which goes completely over my head>."
"Whatever dude. Sounds good to me. You have to admit she looks pretty hawt."
"Yes. She is attractive."


As Lavagal pointed out, SP said he was a journalist/writer. If he claims to be one of them, the professionals will hold SP to the standard they work under. SP didn't mention English was his second language in his original post. They were left to assume SP was a lazy writer, for which there is no excuse. Hence the reaction.

When SP says, "I am careful with my words.", I believe him (he made the effort to edit his original post). The question is which standard does he hold himself to. As his writing career progresses, he will either take on a more mainstream voice, or he may stake an avant-garde position. This has merit, but there's also a price to pay for being on the cutting/bleeding edge. SP seems tough enough to handle it, and who knows? Maybe in 50 years his style of writing will be common. I used to make fun of l33t speak, but now I use it regularly (within certain circles).

Of course if SP is a forum troll, then "I am careful with my words." has other meanings, but I shall give him the benefit of the doubt :)


so, sp, since english is not your first language, does that mean that you freelance write in another language?

or does it mean you extensively use a copy editor?

Good questions, Cyn.

[1stwahine]

Of course if SP is a forum troll...

He'll be given the boot as the ones before him.

They never last on HawaiiThreads.com. ;)

Excellent post, MyopicJoe.:)

Auntie Lynn

[MyopicJoe]

He'll be given the boot as the ones before him.

Auntie is so nice, you just know if someone pisses her off enough it'll be scary. I don't want to know where her boot would end up!

:D

[1stwahine]

Auntie is so nice, you just know if someone pisses her off enough it'll be scary. I don't want to know where her boot would end up!

heheheh

K-den. I'll share a lil story with you. Happened this morning.

Well, I go on the corner on Dillingham/N. King/Liliha Street every morning and aftermoon to sign wave. Monday - Friday. I will be going through-out my district in the coming weeks. But on this little corner is my Home Base. :D

This morning, my volunteer and I walk out and lo and behold...there's a Giant and his dwarfs!! Nah, nah, nah...ha ha ha.

It's Mufi and his volunteers. Ukapila of dem in my corner and all ova my area. :eek: He's directly across me. :rolleyes:

I took my stand where I normally go and tell my volunteer to do the same....and we started waving and smiling!!

Too funny.

The Mayor was friendly but some of his volunteers were sassy. Especially, the man on the left of me. Must have been a supervisor of a C&C Dept. He neba like be out dea sign waving! LOL All dressed in his Aloha Shirt and Dress Pants looking all futless. Mayor Mufi, he giff um! Smiling in the hot sun and showing Aloha!

Mahalo,

Auntie Lynn

[cyleet99]

Go Auntie!! Stand your ground!!
(Usurpers! They know it's a good spot, 'cause Auntie stands there!)


Welcome, SP. While reading your first post, I gathered that "careful with words" meant being careful in the choice of the word.

BTW, great post, MyopicJoe! (Echoing Auntie Lynn.)

[lavagal]

Thank you, Myopic Joe. Well done!

[Leo Lakio]

His ear is so well trained, he can't stand pop music. I once played my favorite Sarah McLachlan song for him, and he actually winced in painMy ear is mighty well trained, if I do say so myself; Sarah McLachlan is a wonderful singer and a pleasant person to be around. If pop music makes him wince, I can tell you --- the issue is NOT with his ears, but rather his ego. ;)

[cynsaligia]

mj, your post provides an excellently elegant example of being "careful with words" while concisely capturing the sentiments some of us may have. well done!

[acousticlady]

My ear is mighty well trained, if I do say so myself; Sarah McLachlan is a wonderful singer and a pleasant person to be around. If pop music makes him wince, I can tell you --- the issue is NOT with his ears, but rather his ego. ;)

Ha - I second that response :D - though I can't comment on how pleasant a person she is - never had the pleasure of meeting her.

By the way SP, welcome - see how quickly we stray off topic :o?

[kani-lehua]

I like it rough and dirty.

If I have mispelled a word; punish me. (lol)



**raises hand and asks**

sounds like you may be seeking something else?;)

**clears throat and sinks in chair**

not.

as tim gunn from project runway would say, "carry on and/or make it work." SP thank you for your creative reply. ditto to myopicjoe's post and good luck auntie lynn with your political aspirations.

[MyopicJoe]

If pop music makes him wince, I can tell you --- the issue is NOT with his ears, but rather his ego. ;)

Heheh, yeah. He is an interesting guy, but rather cocky.


Sarah McLachlan is a wonderful singer and a pleasant person to be around.

She does seem down to earth. My favorite album of hers is Mirrorball, which has live performances. I was tickled pink to learn she sang When She Loved Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=natWIzL4gLg) for Toy Story 2.

So you got to meet her, Leo? Pretty cool. How did that happen?


sounds like you may be seeking something else?

Hahaha. Naughty naughty, Kani ;)

[Leo Lakio]

So you got to meet her, Leo? Pretty cool. How did that happen?In 1995, I went to the wedding (in Guelph, Ontario) of a close friend who is a popular Canadian musician. She had sung backing vocals on a couple of his albums, and she and Ash Sood (her drummer and eventually her husband) came from Vancouver for the wedding. They performed "Ice Cream" at the party afterwards, and we got the chance to talk for a while (she, Ash, the AF & I were the "West Coast contingent").

That was also an interesting trip for the AF & I, as we had only been dating for about three months at the time, but took a week-long cross-Canada driving trip to get there. People told us a trip like that would test the relationship - either breaking us apart or bringing us much closer together. Thirteen years later, we are still together - while the friend's marriage ended about two years ago.

[lavagal]

In 1995, I went to the wedding (in Guelph, Ontario) of a close friend who is a popular Canadian musician. She had sung backing vocals on a couple of his albums, and she and Ash Sood (her drummer and eventually her husband) came from Vancouver for the wedding. They performed "Ice Cream" at the party afterwards, and we got the chance to talk for a while (she, Ash, the AF & I were the "West Coast contingent").

That was also an interesting trip for the AF & I, as we had only been dating for about three months at the time, but took a week-long cross-Canada driving trip to get there. People told us a trip like that would test the relationship - either breaking us apart or bringing us much closer together. Thirteen years later, we are still together - while the friend's marriage ended about two years ago.

Sweet story, bittersweet ending. I love Sarah McLaughlin's music, but none of it works for me during my ayem 24HF workout sessions. I can still hear her rendition of "Rainbow Connection," the Sesame Street hit that I would sing to my girls at night. She's got an amazing voice. Has anyone seen her promo to rescue tortured animals? Talk about yanking your heart strings! My girls stop everything to watch that.

Now back to your carefully chosen words.

[Jim75]

Welcome, SP.:)

I'm less interested in punctuation and spelling, in respect to internet discussion, and more interested in content. SP's writing sounds kind of like it's passed through the filter of the I Ching or Tao te Ching.

Pure, putrescent, pretentious poopycock [sic].


Life is easy, the challenge is death. If and when you conquer it, you'll be an adult.Your criticism could be applied to your own words.:rolleyes:

I have a friend who used to live in NYC but flew every month to the Czech Republic, to conduct an orchestra there. His ear is so well trained, he can't stand pop music. I once played my favorite Sarah McLachlan song for him, and he actually winced in pain:One of my best friends is a professional jazz drummer. In college, his professors were jass purists. They convinced him that popular music was bollocks. He missed out on years of great music until he finally broke out of that cage.

As far as 'diffrent'/avant/unconventional style is concerned, certainly many of the best of the best have been trailblazers. What if someone had said to Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, or Vincent Van Gough, "Hey, you can't do that" and they had listened. Maybe that's why Van Gough cut off his ear. His way of saying "I don't wanna hear it".:p Imagine how many 'critics' laughed at Picasso when he fired-up his cubism.

If your goal is to make art, make it the truest, most honest expression of your 'self' that you can. If you do this, from my perspective, you will have succeeded. If your goal is to make a living, you might have to speak a 'language' others can understand. Some people are fortunate enough to do both without compromising.

[Leo Lakio]

If your goal is to make art, make it the truest, most honest expression of your 'self' that you can. If you do this, from my perspective, you will have succeeded. If your goal is to make a living, you might have to speak a 'language' others can understand. Some people are fortunate enough to do both without compromising.Nicely put, Jim.

I wish I could find it easily, but several years ago, the comic strip "Pearls Before Swine" did a Sunday piece on "What Might Have Been..." It showed several scenes throughout history, with "experts" speaking with the parents of a young Miles Davis, a young Wolfgang Mozart and others; in each case, telling the parents about the odd or unusual nature of their children, with recommendations for "treatment."

The final panel takes place in a record store --- and the only discs on all the shelves are variations of Muzak.

[kani-lehua]

Hahaha. Naughty naughty, Kani ;)

sounded like a little S&M going on and we all were/are voyeurs?:eek:

ah, i don't mind being a voyeur to any hter's posts many of which are very clever and quick witted. a laugh goes a long way. as a former co-worker once said, "good for da body." ah, laughing that is....:p