View Full Version : Sarah Palin - pros & cons
LikaNui
September 15th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Here's a Breaking News story (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/15/palin.investigation/index.html) about Sarah refusing to cooperate with an investigation into her activities:
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will not cooperate with a legislative investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner, the McCain-Palin presidential campaign announced Monday, accusing supporters of Democratic rival Barack Obama of manipulating the inquiry for political motivations.
Gov. Sarah Palin is fighting allegations she improperly tried to force the firing of her former brother-in-law.
Former Palin Press Secretary Meg Stapleton told reporters in Anchorage that the investigation has been "hijacked" by "Obama operatives" for the Democratic presidential nominee -- namely, Alaska state Sen. Hollis French, the Democratic lawmaker managing the investigation and an Obama supporter. French has denied working on behalf of the Obama campaign.
The Obama campaign described Stapleton's charge as "complete paranoia." It has denied sending campaign staff to Alaska to work with the legislative committee's investigation.
McCain campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said Palin will not cooperate with "that investigation so long as it remained tainted and run by partisan individuals who have a predetermined conclusion," referring to a comment by French earlier this month that the case could produce criminal charges or an "October Surprise" for the GOP ticket.
Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, is battling allegations that she and her advisers pressured then-Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire a state trooper going through a bitter custody dispute with her sister -- and that Monegan was terminated when he refused. Palin says she fired Monegan over budget issues and denies wrongdoing.
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Much more at that link noted above.
:eek:
TuNnL
September 15th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Breaking News story (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/15/palin.investigation/index.html) ...
Palin, the Republican nominee for vice president, is battling allegations that she and her advisers pressured then-Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire a state trooper going through a bitter custody dispute with her sister -- and that Monegan was terminated when he refused. Palin says she fired Monegan over budget issues and denies wrongdoing.
(...) And ABC’s Brian Ross, who has uncovered some of the most scathing information to date, gives us this latest report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPn2rHRqgHU) in which video footage of Palin contradicts her claims. In a speech just three months before he was fired, Palin repeatedly praises Monagan for his stellar performance. Women’s groups ABC interviewed also credit Monagan as one of the top advocates for victims of domestic violence.
Frankie's Market
September 15th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will not cooperate with a legislative investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner, the McCain-Palin presidential campaign announced Monday, accusing supporters of Democratic rival Barack Obama of manipulating the inquiry for political motivations.
Yeah, that makes sense. The idea that the Obama campaign is engineering this grand conspiracy. :rolleyes:
The truth? The Alaska state legislative judiciary committee that voted to issue the 13 subpoenas to Gov. Palin's inner circle (including her husband) was made up of 3 Republicans and 2 Democrats. Moreover, the deciding vote was cast by a Republican. And get this: he is a state senator who represents Palin's hometown of Wasilla! It's all here.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/524038.html
The abuse of power investigation against Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, took a potentially ominous turn for her party today when state lawmakers voted to subpoena her husband.
Republican efforts to delay the probe until after the Nov. 4 election were thwarted when GOP state Sen. Charlie Huggins, who represents Palin's hometown of Wasilla, sided with Democrats. "Let's just get the facts on the table," said Huggins, who appeared in camouflage pants to vote during a break from moose hunting.
I guess the next major development in this story would be for those any or all of those subpoenaed to be no-shows at their hearing. Y'know, for a McCain/Palin ticket that have really given a lot of lip service about bringing change to Washington, Palin's people defying the subpoenas would look an awful lot like the stonewalling tactics the Bush White House has engaged in, with Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, and Joshua Bolton also defying congressional subpoenas.
Walkoff Balk
September 15th, 2008, 07:41 PM
The more information of Sarah Palin is known. She might be a first round draft choice by the Republican party who turns out to be (pardon the expression) a bust. Where did the Mel Kiper Jr. of politics projected her draft selection potential?
Lalalinder
September 16th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Wow.
I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin is a lying sack of crap.
matapule
September 16th, 2008, 07:23 AM
Wow.
I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin is a lying sack of crap.
What is the difference between Sarah Palin and lying sack of crap?.................http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/smilies/lips.gif
Leo Lakio
September 16th, 2008, 07:27 AM
What is the difference between Sarah Palin and lying sack of crap?"Sacks of crap" can be used to help things flourish and grow.
matapule
September 16th, 2008, 07:45 AM
"Sacks of crap" can be used to help things flourish and grow.
Sometimes, if it is processed, emulsified, packaged, and with the right amount of NPK. And sometimes it can kill if not applied correctly......but the smell is overpowering! Sarah Palin is no disappointment in DC with the BS factor. Just what we need, more fertilizer.
Peshkwe
September 17th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Someone is out to process her, her yahoo e-mail account was hacked:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/palins_yahoo_account_hacked.html
matapule
September 17th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Someone has hacked Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account. I don't approve and I hope they're caught and punished.
MyopicJoe
September 17th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Dem hackers better watch out. If Palin becomes VeePee, she's gonna brand them domestic terrorists (assuming they're americans) and sic Homeland Security on them.
Hmm. I wonder if she's granted special protection, now that she's a candidate? Like getting Secret Service protection.
Anyways. I like this quote:
Andrée McLeod, the activist who filed the FOIA request, said Wednesday evening that Palin should have known better than to conduct state business using an unsecured e-mail account.
"If this woman is so careless as to conduct state business on a private e-mail account that has been hacked into, what in the world is she going to do when she has access to information that is vital to our national security interests?" she asked.
MyopicJoe
September 17th, 2008, 07:09 PM
And her password was...
popcorn (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080917-palin-e-mail-hack-makes-case-for-sticking-with-gov-e-mail.html)
*sigh*
buzz1941
September 17th, 2008, 10:54 PM
And her password was...
popcorn
Isn't that the name of one of her kids?
tutusue
September 17th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Isn't that the name of one of her kids?
Bwaha! :D
(Piper)
Frankie's Market
September 18th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Dem hackers better watch out. If Palin becomes VeePee, she's gonna brand them domestic terrorists (assuming they're americans) and sic Homeland Security on them.
Hmm. I wonder if she's granted special protection, now that she's a candidate? Like getting Secret Service protection.
Anyways. I like this quote:
Andrée McLeod, the activist who filed the FOIA request, said Wednesday evening that Palin should have known better than to conduct state business using an unsecured e-mail account.
"If this woman is so careless as to conduct state business on a private e-mail account that has been hacked into, what in the world is she going to do when she has access to information that is vital to our national security interests?" she asked.
Contine using Yahoo! mail,.... but type everything in pig latin. :D
Seriously, McLeod is right. This whole affair makes Palin look even more naive than she already appears. She's definitely not ready to step into the Presidency in a heartbeat. Whatever could McCain have been thinking?
Country first? Picking Palin to be his running mate was McCain putting his presidential campaign first, if you ask me.
TuNnL
September 18th, 2008, 04:08 AM
And her password was...
popcorn (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080917-palin-e-mail-hack-makes-case-for-sticking-with-gov-e-mail.html)
*sigh*Do you know if there’s a mirror of the wikileaks site? The site is swamped with traffic, and I have not been able to get in. I really need to read those emails for hopelessly voyeuristic purposes. :D Someone please help!
Peshkwe
September 18th, 2008, 06:46 AM
Here ya go:
http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-emails
MyopicJoe
September 18th, 2008, 07:44 AM
Here ya go:
Cool. Thanks for the link, Peshkwe.
I wonder why the person who took the screen shots left their Steam chat window open.
Peshkwe
September 18th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Cool. Thanks for the link, Peshkwe.
I wonder why the person who took the screen shots left their Steam chat window open.
A catch me if you can moment?
A brain fart?
'Cause they're prolly all of 14-16 years old or so?
Vanguard
September 18th, 2008, 02:14 PM
I wonder why the person who took the screen shots left their Steam chat window open.
Haha! They hacked the account, then they went back to playing CS:S!
TuNnL
September 18th, 2008, 02:54 PM
Had a good belly-laugh on this one. For Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton on SNL, click here (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/palin-hillary-open/656281/). :D
matapule
September 18th, 2008, 03:02 PM
I just listened to Sarah Palin give a speech at a Republican rally. She referred to the next leaders in Washington DC as the "Palin/McCain Administration!"
It has also been reported that McCain and Palin appeared at a rally together. Palin spoke first. When McCain started to speak, people started leaving!
I wonder if McCain is having second thoughts about this monster he has created?
I think she is a novelty and people will soon lose interest once they figure out she is all mukluks and nothing upstairs in the igloo.
Leo Lakio
September 18th, 2008, 03:10 PM
Had a good belly-laugh on this one. For Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton on SNL, click here (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/palin-hillary-open/656281/). :D(Fox News's Sean) Hannity asked Palin if she saw Tina’s Fey’s impression of her on “Saturday Night Live.” Palin said that she did see it, but she didn’t listen to Fey’s stinging satire.
“I watched with the volume all the way down and I thought it was hilarious, she was spot on,” Palin said.
“Do you think you could play her one day?” Hannity asked.
“Oh, absolutely, Palin said. “It was hilarious. Again, I didn't hear a word she said, but the visual was spot on.”
A day after the “Saturday Night Live” spot aired, Palin Spokesperson Tracey Schmitt told CBS News, “She thought it was quite funny, particularly because she once dressed up as Tina Fey for Halloween.”
From this (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/18/politics/fromtheroad/entry4457043.shtml).
matapule
September 18th, 2008, 03:38 PM
To use a sports analogy, Palin is reading and believing all her press clippings. When that happens, you become careless, think you are invincable, and then you are ready for a big fall.
Walkoff Balk
September 18th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I just listened to Sarah Palin give a speech at a Republican rally. She referred to the next leaders in Washington DC as the "Palin/McCain Administration!"
It has also been reported that McCain and Palin appeared at a rally together. Palin spoke first. When McCain started to speak, people started leaving!
I wonder if McCain is having second thoughts about this monster he has created?
Didn't Urkel start off as a supporting cast member? He then became the star of the show, and you could sense tension from their body language of the other cast members, even when they're acting.
Ron Whitfield
September 18th, 2008, 08:04 PM
...nor did I inhale"
Frankie's Market
September 18th, 2008, 08:35 PM
To use a sports analogy, Palin is reading and believing all her press clippings. When that happens, you become careless, think you are invincable, and then you are ready for a big fall.
In that case, Sarah Palin's big fall has been long in coming. Going back to the time she was mayor of Wasilla.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/
Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office -- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization.
"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal, because Sarah had not received the council's approval."
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Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was shocked by her response.
"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'"
timkona
September 19th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Todd Palin, part Eskimo.
Seems that every single Native Hawaiian in the whole nation should vote the Rep ticket for this reason alone.
Power to the natives.
Vanguard
September 19th, 2008, 05:50 PM
It would be nice if her husband's being part Eskimo really did mean "more power to the natives". (http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=palin+against+native+rights&btnG=Google+Search)
Peshkwe
September 19th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Ya sound bitter Timmy, that ol school privilege don't quite have the same "oomph" any more?
timkona
September 19th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Bitter? What you talkin bout?
I'm just suggesting a little solidarity. What's wrong with that?
Peshkwe
September 19th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Ahhh...solidarity das ist a verry goot ting Komrad when inteligently thought out.
But Komrad, your avatar is in equal solidarity wit sqvirrel as Tod's solidarity wit the Yup'ik branch of his bush. You must vatch carefully that de moose hunting Natasha looking voman does not mistake you for de sqvirrle as de press mistakes Tod for a native.
Now tell me leetle sqvirrle...er...Timoty, vare is Boris eh?
timkona
September 19th, 2008, 06:52 PM
It's hard to read the posts when they are typing in Pidgin.
Peshkwe
September 19th, 2008, 06:55 PM
That isn't pidgin, it's old school 'toon.
Silly sqvirrel
tutusue
September 19th, 2008, 06:56 PM
I received an email this morning, as many of you might have, suggesting donating $10. to Planned Parenthood.
...in Sarah Palin's name. :D
PP will send her a card telling her that the donation has been made in her honor. Something tells me PP will be very busy sending and SP will be very busy receiving! PP benefits.
PM me if you want the details. ;)
Frankie's Market
September 19th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Haha! Not dissimilar to what Keith Olbermann did on his show. In response to a report that Gov. Palin cut funding to her state's Special Olympics, K.O. started a fund whereby he pledged to donate $100 to charity for every campaign lie that Palin uttered this week. K.O.'s staff came up with 37 lies, so true to his word, K.O. wrote out a check for $3,700,..... to the Alaska Special Olympics. :D
Walkoff Balk
September 19th, 2008, 08:19 PM
I received an email this morning, as many of you might have, suggesting donating $10. to Planned Parenthood.
...in Sarah Palin's name. :D
I condom their actions.
tutusue
September 19th, 2008, 08:24 PM
I condom their actions.
Careful! Admin might make you evaculate!
lavagal
September 20th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Be sure to read Ian Lind (http://ilind.net) today. Smokin'!
Frankie's Market
September 20th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Latest development in the Troopergate probe: Gov. Palin claimed her firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan for acts of insubordination, citing as "the final straw," an unauthorized trip to Washington DC at state expense. But a document has been revealed, showing that Palin's chief of staff did approve the trip.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1
This proves either one of two things, neither of which reflects well on Sarah Palin: 1) the internal communication within her administration is very poor, or 2) she's a liar.
And keep in mind, folks. The troopergate investigation has nothing to do with the behavior of Palin's ex brother-in-law. As Palin herself said, Monegan's firing had nothing to do with state trooper Mike Wooten, but it had to do with Monegan's job performance. So whenever you hear a conservative pundit yapping on and on about what a bad guy that Wooten was,...... just remember that it is not what the probe is about, despite the "troopergate" title that the media has given this investigation.
Frankie's Market
September 20th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Did anyone hear about Sarah Palin's pastor being a witch hunter in Africa?
http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/09/palin-linked-el.html
Y'know, conservative radio talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Reagan constantly bellyache about the so-called "liberal-biased" media. Yet, I haven't heard anything about Sarah Palin being linked to this witch hunter in mainstream media outlets.
But when it came to Obama's relationship to Rev. Jeremiah Wright,..... well, y'all know how that story got played out, right? :rolleyes:
Walkoff Balk
September 20th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Careful! Admin might make you evaculate!
Am I still being prostatecuted for evaculate?
tutusue
September 20th, 2008, 01:28 PM
Am I still being prostatecuted for evaculate?
Yes, you now face a lifetime of typophobia induced prostatecuted evaculitis! As you can see, it's contagious. You might wanna see an especially edumacated doctorial for that!
Vanguard
September 20th, 2008, 02:05 PM
When did the McCain campaign take over the governor's office? (http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/531725.html)
Peshkwe
September 20th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Be sure to read Ian Lind (http://ilind.net) today. Smokin'!
OMG!!!!
You live in the land of two suns!
or at least that photoshopper thinks so....'cause like sunlight and cast shadows coming from two totally different directions on a single grouping of figures is compeeeeatly normal. *nods head like a dashboard chihuahua*
Palin isn't a hillbilly, she's chimook through and through. Slick as goose shit on a linoleum floor.
Creative-1
September 20th, 2008, 05:13 PM
Things I don't like about Palintology
These are just my musings... I do have a list of things I like about her but it's pretty short.
Let family and aides lobby 36 times to fire ex-brother-in-law
Won’t cooperate with Troopergate investigation, ala Bush – thinks she is above the law
Won’t talk to the media beyond a couple of interviews
Wants to take polar bears off endangered species list
Wants to drill, drill, drill in ANWR - feels we can drill our way off foreign oil
Fires former staff and hires those loyal to her
Asked librarian three times about banning books, then fired her
Believes in abstinence only sex education
Feels pregnancies due to rape or incest must be carried to term
Forced women to pay $1200 for rape kits
Willing to go to war against Russia over Georgia
Got her first passport last year.
Not qualified to be president.
Misrepresents (i.e. plane sold on eBay)
Compensates for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness
Supported/cancelled Bridge to Nowhere (but kept the money)
Her church supports “converting gays”
Wants creationism taught alongside evolution
Quotes Nazi sympathizer Westbrook Pegler
Vanguard
September 21st, 2008, 03:25 AM
Palin's transparency proposal already exists in D.C. The bill that put it online was sponsored by Senator Barack Obama. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/)
Vanguard
September 21st, 2008, 08:59 AM
Alaskans angered that Palin is off-limits (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troopergate21-2008sep21,0,2158301.story). Queries are directed through the McCain campaign machine. Her political capital at home is eroding.
Maybe Alaska will go blue this year! :p
matapule
September 21st, 2008, 09:08 AM
Maybe Alaska will go blue this year! :p
Tennessee went red when Gore ran. Unbelievable!
Frankie's Market
September 21st, 2008, 11:21 AM
Alaskans angered that Palin is off-limits (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troopergate21-2008sep21,0,2158301.story). Queries are directed through the McCain campaign machine. Her political capital at home is eroding.
Maybe Alaska will go blue this year! :p
Alaska turning blue might be overstating the situation a bit, but there's no questioning that Gov. Palin is really putting her popularity and political clout in the state to the test.
As that article nicely sums up (and is corroborated by other news sources and blogs), it is the McCain campaign, more than anything else, to blame for the politicization of the Troopergate investigation. McCain operatives were the ones who trumped up charges against the Democrats in the Alaskan legislature of turning Troopergate into a partisan vendetta. And it was McCain's people who painted all Alaskan Republicans supportive of the probe as being part of the corrupt "good ole boys network" who had an axe to grind with Palin. This has made a whole bunch of Alaskan lawmakers, both Republican and Democrat, very angry over being portrayed by the national media in a way that they feel is unfair and undeserved.
Many political commentators have talked about Sarah Palin as being a GOP star on the rise, even should McCain lose. But if those same folks took a closer look into what is happening in the 49th state, they would realize Palin has indeed spent much of her political capital and goodwill into this vice-presidential run. Should the McCain/Palin ticket lose, what will the Alaska governor be returning to? A disgruntled legislature, as well as an electorate and local media that has felt alienated by having to deal with McCain campaign officers in order to communicate and conduct business with Gov. Palin. What good will Palin's newfound national fame be if her homestate popularity and approval rating plummets and she fails to win a second term as governor? If that happens, the GOP's newest star in 2008 becomes their biggest dud in 2010.
Walkoff Balk
September 21st, 2008, 01:04 PM
These are just my musings... I do have a list of things I like about her but it's pretty short.
Let family and aides lobby 36 times to fire ex-brother-in-law
He probably drank all the beer and didn't bring any gochusho at family get togethers.
tutusue
September 24th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Sharon Osborne (Mrs. Ozzie), altho' an 'alien', steps up to bat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_fmvbDvN5Y) on the subject of Sarah Palin on the Ellen Degeneris Show today! :D
Home run!
LikaNui
September 24th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Good one, Tutu! Sharon was great. (And remarkably under control too. :p )
Vanguard
September 25th, 2008, 02:00 AM
Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.
Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml)
matapule
September 25th, 2008, 02:47 AM
Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml)
Actually, Vanguard, she said, "I'll try to find you some and bring'm to YA." I thought she said it kind of snarky, but that's just me. Sharon Osborne is right, "Disney mom goes to Washington to save the world." Shame on John McCain.
TuNnL
September 25th, 2008, 06:12 AM
Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml)Actually, Vanguard, she said, "I'll try to find you some and bring'm to YA." I thought she said it kind of snarky, but that's just me. Sharon Osborne is right, "Disney mom goes to Washington to save the world." Shame on John McCain.I believe it also proves that Palin knows as little about her running mate as he does about her. Scary stuff. :eek:
Peshkwe
September 25th, 2008, 07:32 AM
Well she lost her appeal on limiting where natives could subsistence moose hunt:
http://www.indianz.com/News/2008/011017.asp
In a unanimous decision, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals refused to overturn federal approval of a subsistence moose hunt in rural Alaska. The Cheesh-na Tribal Council won the right to expand its traditional and customary hunting area before the Federal Subsistence Board.
Palin's administration challenged the board's approval in hopes of limiting where tribal members could hunt. But the 9th Circuit said the evidence strongly favored the tribal council, whose leaders intervened in the case with the help of the Native American Rights Fund.
NARF attorney Heather Kendall-Miller represented the tribe and its president, Larry Sinyon. She cited the case in a widely-read critique of Palin that has been circulating in Indian Country ever since the governor was selected by Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) as his running mate.
"Palin's attack here has targeted (among others) the Ahtna Indian people in Chistochina; and although the federal court last year rejected this challenge, too, Palin has refused to lay down her arms," wrote Kendall-Miller and her husband, Lloyd Miller, another prominent Native rights attorney. "The battle has thus moved on to the appellate courts."
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/ECBA5BB9F1CB88EF882574CD000F0B78/$file/0735723.pdf?openelement
if that doesn't open (it wouldn't for me from the article's link) go directly to the page the pdf is on, it's the 14th down:
STATE OF ALASKA V. FEDERAL SUBSISTENCE BOARD
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/Opinions+by+date?OpenView&Start=1&Count=100&Expand=1.1
Vanguard
September 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Actually, Vanguard, she said, "I'll try to find you some and bring'm to YA." I thought she said it kind of snarky, but that's just me. Sharon Osborne is right, "Disney mom goes to Washington to save the world." Shame on John McCain.
Thanks for the clarification, Matapule! I always read these things via internet -- I very rarely see them on television, so I don't catch details like that unless someone mentions it by text.
Ron Whitfield
September 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Sharon Osbourne for president!!!
At least let her go up against this Sarah creature in the VP debate!
LikaNui
September 25th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Sarah actually met the press today, according to this CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/palin.media/index.html).
Gov. Sarah Palin took questions from reporters who travel with her campaign Thursday for the first time since being tapped as John McCain's running mate.
(...)
Reporters were told 20 minutes ahead of time that, after a visit to ground zero in lower Manhattan, Palin would make a statement and then there would be an opportunity for questions.
In her first media availability of the campaign, Palin spoke only to a few reporters, not her full press corps.
After her statement, she answered four questions -- about the war on terrorism, the re-election bids of Alaska's Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, and the bailout legislation in front of Congress.
The Q&A session followed weeks of criticism about her lack of access to the media.
On Wednesday, the Republican vice presidential candidate gave her third network interview, this time with CBS' Katie Couric.
In comparison, Sen. Joe Biden has given 89 national and local interviews, according to the campaign.
"I have never seen a presidential or vice presidential nominee, in my lifetime, be so inaccessible to the national media," said Howard Kurtz, a Washington Post and CNN media critic.
This week, Palin met with international leaders on the sidelines of the United Nations' General Assembly meetings in New York, but once again, she was largely shielded from reporters.
At first, the campaign said Tuesday that no reporters would be allowed in on the meetings, only a photographer and camera crew.
McCain-Palin campaign officials shifted course after being informed by television news organizations that they would not broadcast footage of her meeting with Hamid Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, if a reporter was not allowed in to observe the pair.
CNN, which was the pool network for the event, was told that a CNN producer would be allowed in the room to act as a media representative just minutes before the photo op was scheduled to take place.
However, print reporters and wire services were not allowed to observe the meeting, as they have been able to do at similar McCain events in the past.
The press caught only a brief glimpse of the vice presidential nominee; CNN's producer and other photographers were allowed in the room for just 29 seconds.
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The full pool -- a print and wires reporter and a television producer -- was then allowed in to observe Palin's meeting with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe for about 20 seconds.
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Michael Carey, a columnist for the Anchorage Daily News who has been covering Palin for two years, said things have changed since she became the VP nominee. "She had a good relationship with the press here. Reporters got access to her when they needed to," he said. "The Anchorage Daily News has not talked to her since August 30, and we're the hometown newspaper. That ought to tell you something."
(...)
And you can read the transcript of her press meeting today at this link (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/25/palin-takes-questions-from-press-corps-for-first-time/). Prepare to either :p or :eek: . Mostly the former, methinks.
And read some of the reader comments after the transcript. You'll :p .
matapule
September 25th, 2008, 04:26 PM
The National Enquirer is not giving up on the story that Sarah Palin had an extra-marital affair. The victim, I mean target is Todd Palin's business partner, Brad Hanson. The Enquirer states they have 4 corroborations, one a sworn statement and one a lie detector test.
Personally, Palin's sexual escapades do not make a difference to me one way or the other. There are many other good reasons why she should not be VP. However, there are a lot of voters out there in middle America who will care. And when it comes to Clinton and Edwards, fair is only fair when it comes to reporting.
Walkoff Balk
September 25th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Is her accent a Canadian one? She should get an endorsement from the MacKenzie Brothers. She can see Canada from her house. So, Take Off, eh!
Peshkwe
September 25th, 2008, 08:52 PM
Nah-nah-nahnah!!!
No way is that a canuk accent! My accent is closer to canuk than hers...get the whole ouwt(out)/boowt(boat) thing going on too....AND I know the difference between a loonie and a toonie. :p
Her accent is closer to Minnesota and Wisconsin, she has that nasally Scandinavian descendant thing happening. Canuk is way mellower to the ear with a little sing songy lilt to it.
Frankie's Market
September 25th, 2008, 10:21 PM
For you early sleepers, here's Letterman's Sarah Palin Top 10. :D
TOP 10 SURPRISING FACTS ABOUT SARAH PALIN
10. Sometimes Sarah calls John McCain “Grandpa.”
9. She stole that sexy librarian look from me.
8. Recently passed legislation to build a bridge to Funkytown.
7. Does great impressions of Tina Fey.
6. Favorite meal: moose nuggets and beaver jerky.
5. Working on “Knight Rider” spinoff about a talking snowmobile.
4. Favorite book? “Late Show Fun Facts” -– available at fine stores everywhere.
3. Once spent a week in the hospital after attempting to put lipstick on a pit bull.
2. To improve her foreign policy experience, she recently went to the International House of Pancakes.
1. Only person I know who’s not afraid to go hunting with Dick Cheney.
Mike_Lowery
September 26th, 2008, 09:32 AM
Can interviews with Sarah Palin be any more painful?
I'm willing to bet that Katie Couric would be a better VP than Palin.
LikaNui
September 26th, 2008, 11:19 AM
Another good story is at this link (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/) on CNN.com.
Palin should step down, conservative commentator says
Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
The criticism in Parker's Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives.
It was fun while it lasted," Parker writes. "Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league."
Palin's interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself," Parker also writes. "If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true."
Parker, who praised McCain's "keen judgment" for picking Palin earlier this month and wrote the Alaska governor is a "perfect storm of God, Mom and apple pie," now says Palin should step down from the ticket.
“Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves," Parker writes. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country."
Parker's comments follow those by prominent conservatives David Brooks, George Will, and David Frum who have all publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president.
(...)
"She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."
Amen to all of that.
GregLee
September 26th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America.
I think what she was trying to say was Alaska might be the entry point if sometime in the future Russia were to intrude on US airspace. But maybe not -- it was pretty incoherent. It's a pity that her managers were short sightedly afraid of any criticisms and shielded her from the press. They should have done what Ed Rollins recommended and pushed her out there right from the beginning, with lots of prep sessions. She would have made mistakes, but would have learned and gained confidence. And the press corps would have learned what to expect from her. Now, she just seems so lost.
matapule
September 26th, 2008, 12:29 PM
I think what she was trying to say was Alaska might be the entry point if sometime in the future Russia were to intrude on US airspace.
If you do the math, Moscow is about equadistant to New York City
and Anchorage.
The woman is an embarrassment. If Russia attacks the US, it will not be through Alaska you idiot.
LikaNui
September 26th, 2008, 01:13 PM
For you early sleepers, We prefer to be called early risers.
here's Letterman's Sarah Palin Top 10 (...) 2. To improve her foreign policy experience, she recently went to the International House of Pancakes. Somebody better tell Letterman that Jay Leno did that same joke six days ago. Seriously. I just saw it on my DVR. :o
GregLee
September 26th, 2008, 01:23 PM
If you do the math, Moscow is about equadistant to New York City
and Anchorage.
The woman is an embarrassment. If Russia attacks the US, it will not be through Alaska you idiot.
"Equidistant?" Of course Russia's bombers, subs, and missile silos are all based in Moscow. Maybe you should review your posts for coherency before hitting 'submit'.
Walkoff Balk
September 26th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Nah-nah-nahnah!!!
No way is that a canuk accent! My accent is closer to canuk than hers...get the whole ouwt(out)/boowt(boat) thing going on too....AND I know the difference between a loonie and a toonie. :p
Her accent is closer to Minnesota and Wisconsin, she has that nasally Scandinavian descendant thing happening. Canuk is way mellower to the ear with a little sing songy lilt to it.
I guess I heard that accent from the Frances McDormand character in the movie Fargo.
Vanguard
September 27th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Jack Cafferty on Sarah Palin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc)
matapule
September 27th, 2008, 06:43 AM
"Equidistant?"
Yes, thank you.
Of course Russia's bombers, subs, and missile silos are all based in Moscow. Maybe you should review your posts for coherency before hitting 'submit'.
Although no one can say what Russia's military strategic and tactical planning might be, but bombers are always in the air someplace, subs are in the water someplace, and missles could very likey be deployed from either bombers or subs. It really has nothing to do with Alaska's proximity to the Russian mainland. The woman continues to be an embarrassment.
(How was my spelling and coherency?)
Peshkwe
September 27th, 2008, 08:27 AM
I guess I heard that accent from the Frances McDormand character in the movie Fargo.
I guess for someone not used to hearing that sort of accent it'd be like listening to someone from Georgia and someone from Texas. You might not be able to tell em apart unless they were talking in the same room.
The up coming Veep debates are gonna be interesting.
One of two things is gonna happen
1. Palin gets eaten alive
2. Biden gets his butt handed to him.
I'm almost leaning to #2...just 'cause I got this very weird feeling the Couric interview was a set up. Palin was sandbagging and playing the air head in order to sandbag and get Biden to feeling he doesn't have to put he best game forward.
Keeping Palin from any interviews since the Couric one ....are they trying to hide whatever skills she has from peeking out and alerting the opposing camp.
Or do they have her in cram courses because all that's up in the bubble-doo...
is bubbles.
GregLee
September 27th, 2008, 10:37 AM
(How was my spelling and coherency?)
Just fine, which of course is not to say you were correct. Part of the DEW Line was in Alaska, and apparently part of the successor system NWS is there now. There is a map of NWS here. (http://www.lswilson.ca/page4.htm) This is not to say what Palin said about her foreign policy experience makes any sense.
Frankie's Market
September 27th, 2008, 11:44 AM
One of two things is gonna happen
1. Palin gets eaten alive
2. Biden gets his butt handed to him.
I'm almost leaning to #2...just 'cause I got this very weird feeling the Couric interview was a set up. Palin was sandbagging and playing the air head in order to sandbag and get Biden to feeling he doesn't have to put he best game forward.
Uhhh yeah. And while you're in this wishful thinking mode, why don't you also explain how UH getting thrashed on the road by Florida and Oregon St. is Coach McMackin's way of getting Boise St. and Fresno St. to be overconfident and lazy when they play against us.
Peshkwe
September 27th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Meh...I did allow for bubbles.
TuNnL
September 27th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Meh...I did allow for bubbles.I think Frankie’s Market is making the point that we’ve seen enough of Sarah Palin to prove without a shadow of a doubt that she’s in over her head.
matapule
September 27th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Or do they have her in cram courses because all that's up in the bubble-doo...is bubbles.
You betcha! http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1227.gif
Peshkwe
September 27th, 2008, 01:50 PM
I think Frankie’s Market is making the point that we’ve seen enough of Sarah Palin to prove without a shadow of a doubt that she’s in over her head.
*nods*
Bubbles
I said it was a weird thought. I got to thinking with all the gambeling referances how would one place a ringer or otherwise bluff. The only thing I could think of was the way a player can sandbag in order to throw out the skills later in the game when the stakes were higher.
Walkoff Balk
September 27th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Can you tell if she has a "bubble butt" from her swimsuit pictures?
Do you believe in magic?
tutusue
September 27th, 2008, 09:16 PM
It appears there's an SNL skit tonight featuring "Palin" and "Couric". It was uploaded to YouTube approx. 45 min. ago and has already been removed for copyright infringement!
Can't wait! :D
Kittrick
September 27th, 2008, 10:05 PM
I honestly think that Joe Biden will do alright during the debate on Thursday. Palin only got a passport last year, so foreign policy may not be her thing.
I think it's funny how last week she made the rounds to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Joe Biden sits on the foreign relations committee. He will eat her alive during the debates. My only worry is if he goes at her with "kid gloves" because she's a woman and doesn't want to be perceived as being a bully. That would cost him.
The hardest part will be preparation, because she's an unknown quantity. All we really know about her is:
1. She was a small town mayor.
2. She's only been govenor of Alaska for 2 years.
3. She apparently has some control issues, because there is a bi-partisan investigation going on in Alaska.
4. She has a son going to Iraq and a 4 month old son with special needs.
5. She named some of her 5 kids after hunting activities. The son in Iraq is named Track, and she has another named Trap.
Other than that, I don't know much else about her.
the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that a person, man or woman, who has a 4 month old kid, is going to have a parent most likely too busy to deal with their children because of the demands of the second-most-powerful job in the world. Nonetheless having the youngest one have special needs and be only 4 months old.
tutusue
September 27th, 2008, 10:39 PM
[...] The son in Iraq is named Track, and she has another named Trap.
Other than that, I don't know much else about her. [...]
The baby's name is Trig. Maybe #6 will be named Trap! If she keeps on goin' then this thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=15912) might help her out!
And a coupla more facts...
Palin will become a grandmother in a few months.
She was either 1st or 2nd runner-up in the Miss Alaska contest in the 1980s.
She briefly attended HPU. There's some discrepency (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/BREAKING01/80905066) as to whether or not she attended UH-Hilo.
And...drum roll, please...she can see Russia from her kitchen window! :D
How much more qualified can one be?!
Personally I don't feel Biden needs to enter the ring with his dukes up OR don kid gloves. All he needs to do is stay factual. He should be able to bury Palin with knowledge. She'll be her own worst enemy.
Frankie's Market
September 27th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Palin only got a passport last year, so foreign policy may not be her thing.
Congratulations! You've won the award for the HT understatement of the year. :D
Joe Biden sits on the foreign relations committee. He will eat her alive during the debates. My only worry is if he goes at her with "kid gloves" because she's a woman and doesn't want to be perceived as being a bully. That would cost him.
Seriously, Biden doesn't have to call her out in the debate. As is painfully obvious in all of her interviews thus far, Palin is her own worst enemy. Now, if she was improving with each interview, McCain's camp might have some hope that she will get through the debate all right. But the fact of the matter is, she's getting worse. I've heard someone compare her meandering responses to Katie Couric's questions as sounding like the answers that a jr. high student would give for an essay question exam that he/she did not study for. It was that bad.
tutusue
September 27th, 2008, 11:17 PM
In addition to the "Couric" interview, there will also be a debate spoof on SNL (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080928/ap_en_tv/tv_snl) tonight. Those writers were into some serious overtime!
Composite 2992
September 27th, 2008, 11:40 PM
I just saw the spoof of the Couric interview.
What makes it so funny is that it's so close to the actual interview. The SNL writers had to push it just a little to make it all work just fine.
MyopicJoe
September 27th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Those writers were into some serious overtime!
Haha yeah, but you just know they're loving their job at the moment. Must have been a lot of laughs in their war room.
tutusue
September 28th, 2008, 12:01 AM
I just saw the spoof of the Couric interview.
What makes it so funny is that it's so close to the actual interview. The SNL writers had to push it just a little to make it all work just fine.
Haha yeah, but you just know they're loving their job at the moment. Must have been a lot of laughs in their war room.
OMG...the interview was so funny! What an absolutely glorious time to be a comedy writer!
I didn't find the debate nearly as funny. There was an Obama impersonator on Leno's show a couple of months ago who just nailed it and more closely resembled Obama. SNL needs that guy!
Kelly0040
September 28th, 2008, 02:09 AM
SNL almost makes me want to vote Republican for 4 more years of awesome funnies.
"Katie, I'd like to use one of my life lines..."
Vanguard
September 28th, 2008, 02:47 AM
Palin Contradicts McCain On Pakistan, Seems To Back Obama’s Position (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml)
Vanguard
September 28th, 2008, 05:48 AM
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4176/putinrearshisheadnz7.jpg
matapule
September 28th, 2008, 05:50 AM
Sarah Palin attended 5 colleges over a 6 year period. After graduating from high school, the first college she attended was Hawai'i Pacific in the Fall, 1982. Read about her higher education here (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjGaAjQoUCE3VQ4N3M852LEdOVtwD9304JE80).
Peshkwe
September 28th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Looks like Palin has more trouble coming from her actions in the great white north.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?hpid=topnews
Alaska law forbids state officials from using state resources to advocate on ballot initiatives.
Then, six days before the Aug. 26 vote, with the race looking close, Palin broke her silence. Asked about the initiative at a news conference, she invoked "personal privilege" to give an opinion. "Let me take my governor's hat off for just a minute here and tell you, personally, Prop. 4 -- I vote no on that," she said. "I have all the confidence in the world that [the Department of Environmental Conservation] and our [Department of Natural Resources] have great, very stringent regulations and policies already in place. We're going to make sure that mines operate only safely, soundly."
Palin's comments rocked the contest. Within a day, the pro-mining coalition fighting the referendum had placed full-page ads with a picture of the governor and the word "NO." The initiative went down to defeat, with 57 percent of voters rejecting it.
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Three days later, Palin was named Republican Sen. John McCain's running mate, throwing Alaska into a media frenzy. But the fallout has lingered from an episode that may stand as one of the most consequential in Palin's 21-month tenure. The state ethics panel is examining whether her comments violated the law against state advocacy on ballot measures; it had already ruled that a state Web site was improperly slanted toward mining interests.
............
"She says, 'I'm going to take off my governor's hat,' but the only reason the press was there was that they were called to a press conference by the governor," he said. "Being governor is not a costume -- you either are the governor or not."
Creative-1
September 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM
John McCain should drop out because he is dragging the Sarah Palin Campaign down.
Walkoff Balk
September 28th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Sarah Palin attended 5 colleges over a 6 year period. After graduating from high school, the first college she attended was Hawai'i Pacific in the Fall, 1982. Read about her higher education here (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hjGaAjQoUCE3VQ4N3M852LEdOVtwD9304JE80).
I'm going to give her a break by giving her a kamaina rate.
tutusue
September 28th, 2008, 02:13 PM
Palin Contradicts McCain On Pakistan, Seems To Back Obama’s Position (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry4483110.shtml)
McCain defends Palin (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/BREAKING01/80928053)...
(Sumthin' tells me "C" bombs are being dropped all over the place!)
Peshkwe
September 28th, 2008, 02:45 PM
Well...looks like she's not all that interested in infrastructure in the rural areas.
http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/opinion/29766769.html
After 11 years working in rural Alaska, I feel obligated to share my observations regarding the Third World living conditions facing more than 200 rural Native communities, and the state of Alaska’s lack of attention to the many inequities they suffer.
While Governor Palin claims “exemplary leadership” and attempts to become vice president of the United States, the truth is that rural Alaska is a disaster in multiple areas: its human health, lack of infrastructure, environment and economy are equal to that of Third World countries. Sarah Palin is a single-issue governor who fails to effectively address these critical needs.
Alaska has one of the highest rates of homelessness per capita in the U.S., overflowing sewage lagoons in dozens of communities and no running water in more than 150 villages – that’s almost 25 percent of the population without running water.
Governor Palin has demonstrated how out of touch she is with Alaska while she continues to ignore the needs of the homeless; fails to recognize Third World living conditions in her home state; and ignores climate change victims, polluted waters, village health hazards and unattended military contaminant sites.
LikaNui
September 28th, 2008, 03:05 PM
I don't remember if anyone in this thread mentioned the item about how often Sarah Palin redecorated her office. I think it was three or four times in her short tenure. Maybe someone can provide links to that story?
LikaNui
September 28th, 2008, 03:10 PM
I saw Tina Fey's routine last night too. Verrrrry funny! I wonder how much SNL is paying her to come back and do that. I'll bet it's a bunch. :p
I didn't see the original Couric interview. Anyone have a link? I didn't see one on CBS.com.
Peshkwe
September 28th, 2008, 03:13 PM
Here's one that mentions it:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/
Peshkwe
September 28th, 2008, 03:14 PM
I saw Tina Fey's routine last night too. Verrrrry funny! I wonder how much SNL is paying her to come back and do that. I'll bet it's a bunch. :p
I didn't see the original Couric interview. Anyone have a link? I didn't see one on CBS.com.
Here's the Couric interview:
day 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc
and day 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WkCZV83Cp8
Ron Whitfield
September 28th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Plenty of it on youtube.
Per redecorating her office
I wonder if it's wall to wall, ceiling and floor, moose coat...
matapule
September 28th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Per redecorating her office
I wonder if it's wall to wall, ceiling and floor, moose coat...
I read one report about the redecoration (it was a month ago, lost the link) that said the office was done in red flocked wallpaper. The reporter said it looked like a bordello! But then Palin is Alaska's version of Martha Stewart. I'm sure that Palin's version of fine dining is a meal at Sizzlers.
It really grates on me when Palin calls it Eye Rack when it is E Rock. The same when she says Eye Ran when it is E Ron. I went to school with my good friend Sohrab from Tehran. It was a huge insult to an Iranian (E Ron Ian) when someone called their country Eye Ran. Palin is uncouth and uneducated. She is going to make a big (bad) impression on the people of the Middle East. I can't wait to see Palin wearing a burka if she is sent on a mission to Iran!!!!!!
BTW, Iranians are really big with the "stink eye" which they call the "evil eye." I betcha Palin'll geta lotta stink eye if she is sent to the Mi'le East. Ah sure.
tutusue
September 28th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I read one report about the redecoration (it was a month ago, lost the link) that said the office was done in red flocked wallpaper. The reporter said it looked like a bordello![...]
Peshkwe links it in post 351 above. Between McCain dropping "C" bombs and Palin plastering walls with red flocked paper, I'm speechless! I truly am! :rolleyes:
Vanguard
September 29th, 2008, 01:49 AM
It really grates on me when Palin calls it Eye Rack when it is E Rock. The same when she says Eye Ran when it is E Ron. I went to school with my good friend Sohrab from Tehran. It was a huge insult to an Iranian (E Ron Ian) when someone called their country Eye Ran. Palin is uncouth and uneducated. She is going to make a big (bad) impression on the people of the Middle East. I can't wait to see Palin wearing a burka if she is sent on a mission to Iran!!!!!!
The burqa is from Afghanistan for the most part. In Iran, women are required to wear rusari, which is simply a scarf for the hair (in addition to form concealing clothing (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manteau)). Technically they are supposed to cover all the hair, but it is very common for younger women to reveal a bit of hair. The government there can't do much about this, or the underground parties that are on the rise. Your friend Sohrab would probably bristle at you asserting the burqa as an Iranian thing. :p And yes, some do cover everything, but that is called a chador, not a burqa, and it is not required (it is worn by religious women).
Palin's ignorance on the subject is not surprising, and pales in comparison to McCain, who gave us this bit of wisdom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p05FFS3IenM) several months ago. This alone makes me vote for Obama whole-heartedly.
Vanguard
September 30th, 2008, 03:02 AM
Palin could not refer to any court cases besides Roe vs. Wade (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/In_reintroduction_Palin_to_do_more_interviews_and_ tell_her_story.html).
matapule
September 30th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Palin cannot name a single newspaper or magazine that she reads when asked by Katie Couric. She just says, "All of'm." I guess that was one of those "trapdoor" questions that McCain referred to.
EMBARRASSING!
Vanguard
September 30th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Palin cannot name a single newspaper or magazine that she reads when asked by Katie Couric. She just says, "All of'm." I guess that was one of those "trapdoor" questions that McCain referred to.
EMBARRASSING!
Horst: You have been safety inspector for two years. What initiatives have you spearheaded in that time?
Homer Simpson: Uh…All of them?
Horst: I see.
Frankie's Market
September 30th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Palin cannot name a single newspaper or magazine that she reads when asked by Katie Couric. She just says, "All of'm." I guess that was one of those "trapdoor" questions that McCain referred to.
I saw that. Surely, Palin could have said Time, Newsweek, or Wall Street Journal. But maybe she was spooked out about the idea of Couric following it up with a question like "Who's your favorite columnist?" And if she gives a wrong name for the publication, it's a gaffe. Right now, Palin is so paralyzed with fear about anything she says or does becoming a gaffe. It is all too apparent that the Alaska Gov. is woefully unprepared to handle the pressure of a national campaign.
Palin could not refer to any court cases besides Roe vs. Wade (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/In_reintroduction_Palin_to_do_more_interviews_and_ tell_her_story.html).
This part will be shown on tomorrow's CBS Evening News. And folks in the know said that when Couric pressed her to cite Supreme Court cases other than Roe, she was literally at a loss for words. Now, if you think Palin rambling on senselessly was bad, wait till you see dead air from her.
Ron Whitfield
September 30th, 2008, 08:12 PM
So..., she's fed up with all the innaccurasies and fiction concerning her life and political careers?
Well, who has been telling her stories other than herself and her political handlers?
Isn't that were all the BS has been coming from? I think so'ooo...
Notice she doesn't spout off the lies about the not-Ebayed plane and bridge to nowhere anymore? Trying to endlessly hammer that crap back-fired.
TATTRAT
October 2nd, 2008, 03:08 PM
Maybe NSFW!!!!!!!!!
Oh no, a sex tape has surfaced! (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/975446/)
:D
Seeking Penance
October 2nd, 2008, 06:24 PM
whoaaaa!! I am not a palin supporter - but ______!
i would laugh my ____ to tears - if mccain and palin ends up winning the presidential election
everyone is teething her - including her peers -yet she's still out there with all her will and her might for what she believes in
i am not sure at times who i should laugh at - palin or her enemies
mahalo everyone
Vanguard
October 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Famous People" think Palin won her VP debate (http://current.com/items/89368730_famous_people_think_plain_won_her_vp_deba te)
matapule
October 4th, 2008, 10:09 AM
"Famous People" think Palin won her VP debate (http://current.com/items/89368730_famous_people_think_plain_won_her_vp_deba te)
Vanguard, I am that "Famous Person," and they got my quote wrong. What I said was, "She stunk up the place. She looked like a high school freshman running for Student Council."
tutusue
October 4th, 2008, 12:29 PM
Famous People" think Palin won her VP debate (http://current.com/items/89368730_famous_people_think_plain_won_her_vp_deba te)
Got a giggle out of the headline for that page...
"Famous People" think Plain won her VP debate
(emphasis mine)
:D
Adri
October 4th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Let the swiftboating attempts commence. Nothing stinks quite like the desperation of sinking popularity for politicians.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/04/palin-accuses-obama-palling-terrorists/
"Sarah Palin, using some of her strongest language to date to question the character of the Democratic presidential nominee, accused Barack Obama on Saturday of "palling around with terrorists.
Palin, speaking at a closed fundraiser in Colorado, was referencing Obama's ties to Bill Ayers, a founder of the 1960s radical group The Weather Underground. That relationship was examined in a front-page article in The New York Times on Saturday.... /snip
The Times article she mentioned concluded that Obama and Ayers did not appear to be close. (emphasis added)"
Does Palin not know how to read? If she were going to try to start rumors like that and actually attribute it to a news source, and if she had any brains, one might think she'd find a news source that did not, in the very same article, undermine her slime throwing.
matapule
October 4th, 2008, 03:04 PM
I have a theory. Maybe I'm way off base and feel free to tell me so. Anyway, here is something that just crossed my mind.
Palin was brought on the McCain ticket to theoretically appeal to working class moms, especially supporters of Hillary. That strategy has not worked. Palin seems to have a much stronger following among men. Is it possible that the Rep strategists are now using Palin as a "sex symbol" to lure the male vote. If you look at the posts on HT when Palin was announced as McCain's mate, some posters were going on about her looks, not her qualifications. If you watch the debate, this constant winking at the camera came off very flirtatious. It didn't work on me, I thought it made her look like a bimbo, but it evidently worked among some voters. And now the conservative pundits are calling her sexy, alluring, and making them sit up in their chairs. And then we have the "Joe six-pack" reference appealing to all those six pack kind of guys.
Sex has been used very effectively in advertising. Tutu can probably tell us all about that. Maybe McCain has changed his strategy and using Palin as a sex symbol to horny males in order to revive his faltering campaign. McCain is playing the sex card. I don't think it's going to work, but what do you think?
Ron Whitfield
October 4th, 2008, 03:20 PM
I'd suddenly find her very sexy if she get's nailed by the IRS - http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/09/palin_per_diem_travel_expenses.html
Adri
October 4th, 2008, 03:24 PM
I'd suddenly find her very sexy if she get's nailed by the IRS - http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/09/palin_per_diem_travel_expenses.html
Ummmm, I've heard there is a pron fetish niche for just about everything but this is the first time I've heard of an IRS niche. ;)
Ron Whitfield
October 4th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Yep, I'm a fool for B&W stripes and leg irons!
Vanguard
October 4th, 2008, 06:50 PM
"Sarah Palin, using some of her strongest language to date to question the character of the Democratic presidential nominee, accused Barack Obama on Saturday of "palling around with terrorists.
And Sarah Palin made several babies with a secessionist. She must have a perfect view of Russia from that glass house. ;)
Palin seems to have a much stronger following among men. Is it possible that the Rep strategists are now using Palin as a "sex symbol" to lure the male vote.
If I vote for John McCain next month, I'm pretty sure I'll get to sleep with Sarah Palin. I mean, if they can mail rebate checks to millions of people, this is possible too, right?
Right???
I think this is my most crass post to date. Their plan is working!
Peshkwe
October 4th, 2008, 08:00 PM
The email business still ain't over:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jYzDQkO2LkYr39TyxxIjsFpkohfwD93K31G80
Lawsuit seeks to preserve Palin e-mails
1 hour ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — A critic of Gov. Sarah Palin is suing to try to force preservation of any government-related e-mails that Palin sent from private accounts.
Andree McLeod, a former state worker, filed the lawsuit against Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, in Anchorage on Thursday. Palin's gubernatorial spokeswoman, Sharon Leighow, said Saturday she could not comment on pending litigation.
Vanguard
October 5th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist (http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php)
TuNnL
October 5th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist (http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php)Frankly, I am not surprised that biased right-wing groups like the Judicial Confirmation Network would circulate predictable “guilt-by-association” commercials (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3383QdT2g) that led to the New York Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1223139668-upm9XdZwcsPlE9S2unS3dA&oref=slogin). Obama has not spoken by phone or email to Ayers since he was elected to the U.S. Senate nearly four years ago. In contrast, Palin’s own husband was actively involved (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/) for years in the anti-American “secede from the U.S. and make Alaska a separate country” movement. Hypocrites like timkona criticize native Hawaiians trying to seek redress for the armed overthrow of the Hawaiian nation by the U.S. Meanwhile, he is praising the Palins who wanted more than self-determination. They wanted make Alaska an independent nation! :eek:
timkona
October 5th, 2008, 12:42 PM
For the record, I'd be against secession, especially if the revolutionaries are espousing the virtues of one race over another.
Is it possible to support one candidate or another without necessarily agreeing with every single position they take? Extremes are the hallmark of partisan politics.
Proud RepubliCRAT here.
Frankie's Market
October 5th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Is it possible to support one candidate or another without necessarily agreeing with every single position they take? Extremes are the hallmark of partisan politics.
Of course, it's possible. But then again, it is also not unheard of for someone to vote or not vote for a candidate based on a single issue to which support/opposition is an absolutely unconditional matter.
Sometimes, you just gotta take a stand on an issue that you feel strongly about.
LikaNui
October 6th, 2008, 04:21 PM
This morning someone mentioned Halloween to me, and my first thought was wondering if anyone was making Sarah Palin masks. Well, of course they are. Try Google it. Over 66,000 entries! :p
And it looks like most suppliers are sold out already, and now they're being re-sold on E-Bay for over $100.
Some suppliers got smart and put lipstick on pig masks, and those are selling like crazy too.
Here's the Sarah mask:
Walkoff Balk
October 6th, 2008, 08:07 PM
What was the music video in the 1980's with muppets of Ronald Reagan, Gobachov, and other political figures?
Peshkwe
October 6th, 2008, 08:24 PM
What was the music video in the 1980's with muppets of Ronald Reagan, Gobachov, and other political figures?
Spitting Image?
http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/S/htmlS/spittingimag/spittingimag.htm
{edit}
Ooops sorry, that was the tv show but the same crew did do the music video:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Confusion
tutusue
October 7th, 2008, 01:10 PM
The National Organization for Women (NOW (http://www.now.org/)) has endorsed Obama/Biden.
Finally, as the chair of NOW's Political Action Committee, I am frequently asked whether NOW supports women candidates just because they are women. This gives me an opportunity to once again answer that question with an emphatic 'No.' We recognize the importance of having women's rights supporters at every level but, like Sarah Palin, not every woman supports women's rights.
Oh, and during an interview last night with Mr. and Mrs. McCain, McCain, when asked about the Veep debate, said Palin beat Biden "like a drum". :rolleyes:
Vanguard
October 7th, 2008, 01:33 PM
The National Organization for Women (NOW (http://www.now.org/)) has endorsed Obama/Biden.
I wonder how that will affect yesterday's endorsement of Palin (http://news.google.com/news?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=Los+Angeles+NOW+endorses+palin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1255216328&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=more-results&cd=1) by the NOW Los Angeles chapter President?
Frankie's Market
October 7th, 2008, 02:05 PM
The National Organization for Women (NOW (http://www.now.org/)) has endorsed Obama/Biden.
Speaking of NOW, their endorsement/position on the presidential campaign became muddled when Shelly Mandell, the LA chapter president of NOW came out in favor of the McCain/Palin ticket. This sent shockwaves, not only through Mandell's chapter, but through the state and national levels of NOW. The California president of NOW came out with a statement making it clear that Mandell was not speaking on behalf of the LA chapter and that the organization did not approve of Mandell using her NOW title while expressing her personal support of McCain/Palin.
http://www.feministing.com/archives/011469.html
tutusue
October 7th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Speaking of NOW, their endorsement/position on the presidential campaign became muddled when Shelly Mandell, the LA chapter president of NOW came out in favor of the McCain/Palin ticket. [...]
It appears Mandell and the LA chapter are rogues within the organization regardless of Mandell's endorsement of Mc/P. I imagine NOW is currently in full damage control mode and, possibly, if they play their cards right, they might be able to get some national media coverage that could bode well for Obama/Biden.
Composite 2992
October 7th, 2008, 04:17 PM
The National Organization for Women (NOW (http://www.now.org/)) has endorsed Obama/Biden.
So NOW told McCain LATERS.... :)
Walkoff Balk
October 7th, 2008, 07:51 PM
The more bad stuff said about Sarah P from the 4-9. The more I like to defend her. Is it just to be a devil's advocate, disagree just for an argument, or to be a Maverick?
matapule
October 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM
The more bad stuff said about Sarah P from the 4-9. The more I like to defend her. Is it just to be a devil's advocate, disagree just for an argument, or to be a Maverick?
I'm not sure you want to go there. There is a word for people who do that on the Internet.
Walkoff Balk
October 7th, 2008, 08:12 PM
I'm not sure you want to go there. There is a word for people who do that on the Internet.
I have a card with the word troll crossed out and replaced with Disscussion Enthusiast written in crayon.
matapule
October 8th, 2008, 06:05 AM
Sarah Palin to give two more television interviews, both on Faux News, one with Hannity again and one with Van Susteren (who did the interview with the "first dude.") These should be hard hitting interviews that are "fair and balanced." Last time Hannity anaswered all the questions for her and Van Susteren asked the dude how to butcher a moose. Yawn.
Ron Whitfield
October 8th, 2008, 09:56 AM
She refuses to go on the Today Show. Smart move, but with or without lipstick, she's a pig.
Frankie's Market
October 8th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Sarah Palin to give two more television interviews, both on Faux News, one with Hannity again and one with Van Susteren (who did the interview with the "first dude.") These should be hard hitting interviews that are "fair and balanced." Last time Hannity anaswered all the questions for her and Van Susteren asked the dude how to butcher a moose.
Word has already circulated that, even within the friendly confines of FOX, the McCain campaign does not want Palin anywhere near the likes of Chris Wallace or Bill O'Reilly. Seems that Sarah Barracuda is more like a guppy when it comes to handling the press.
turtlegirl
October 9th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Hahahahahaha!! Check out this site! (http://pa.lindro.me/) :D
Now you can make Sarah Palin say whatever you want!
Ron Whitfield
October 9th, 2008, 09:38 AM
"Goodbye cruel world" would be enuf for me.
Cool site, thanx!
Vanguard
October 9th, 2008, 02:26 PM
Alaskan Independence Party sponsored By Iran (http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/09/alaskan-independence.html)
Adri
October 9th, 2008, 06:44 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917
Since Alaska's supreme court refused to halt the investigation into Troopergate:
"ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing...."
See? No need to investigate further, she investigated herself and she's not guilty! :rolleyes:
Ron Whitfield
October 9th, 2008, 06:53 PM
NA NA, Sarah haters! I knew she was innocent, just as she's good on the per diem matter.
...maverick...
Adri
October 10th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Panel finds Palin abused her power but didn't violate law?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/?GT1-43001
Marco
October 10th, 2008, 05:03 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/?GT1-43001
Just skimming thru the report linked in this article, it looks like page 8 is where the "abuse of power" is mentioned. (But I only got thru about 50 out of the 260 odd pages)
The hate-filled, ignorant fury that supporters of McCain/Palin have demonstrated in their rallies is truly amazing to behold. I don't claim to be a genius or an intellectual, but it baffles me that there are really people out there this stupid; cheering on every mindless accusation that Palin decides to throw out there about Obama.
What scares me even more is she actually appears to be a person with strong convictions and beliefs and yet still panders to the basest instincts of a lynch mob. I'd rather have someone in power who's just plain stupid (*cough GWB cough*), then someone who actually believes in embracing anti-intellectualism. Someone who, it almost pains me how phony she appears, with her on-again, off-again folksy accent, Joe Sixpacks and lame winks.
Michelle Obama has looked far more composed and intelligent in the two interviews I've seen with King and Stewart than the disasters that masquerade as Palin appearances.
Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.
matapule
October 10th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Just skimming thru the report linked in this article, it looks like page 8 is where the "abuse of power" is mentioned. (But I only got thru about 50 out of the 260 odd pages)
Good for you! Actually reading the report and making your own determination. That is what I call doing your homework. Don't believe what the Reps say, don't believe what the Dems say, make your own determinations based on your own research. Kudos to Marco, sets an example for this forum.
I don't claim to be a genius or an intellectual, but it baffles me that there are really people out there this stupid;
Not many of us are geniuses or intellectuals, so no need to apologize. You don't need to be a Mary Mai Tai to be anti-stupid.
Someone who, it almost pains me how phony she appears, with her on-again, off-again folksy accent, Joe Sixpacks and lame winks.
That's what's called campaignin' to the 'toopid crowd. Y'betcha!
Michelle Obama has looked far more composed and intelligent in the two interviews I've seen with King and Stewart than the disasters that masquerade as Palin appearances.
What??????? Michelle actually went on a real television interview and sounded like she was making some sense? Unbelievable! Was she able to say what newspapers she read? OMG, they must have given her some special treatment.
Enough of this McCain/Palin BS!
Marco
October 10th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Good for you! Actually reading the report and making your own determination. That is what I call doing your homework. Don't believe what the Reps say, don't believe what the Dems say, make your own determinations based on your own research. Kudos to Marco, sets an example for this forum.
Hey much mahalos for the compliments, matapule! :)
I usually like to come up with my own opinion before reading/listening to what others have to say. Or at least I try to follow that general approach. Hoping to read the rest of it if I have more time this weekend...
That's what's called campaignin' to the 'toopid crowd. Y'betcha!
Yeah I hear ya and understand what the strategy is there.... I just don't like it. It says something (at least to me) when 100% of McCain's advertising is negative vs only 30% of Baracks.
What??????? Michelle actually went on a real television interview and sounded like she was making some sense? Unbelievable! Was she able to say what newspapers she read? OMG, they must have given her some special treatment.
LOL
Ron Whitfield
October 10th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Well, the 'bi-partisan' panel decided against sanctions and a criminal investigation, so she's off the big hook, even tho determined to be guilty as charged. So, along with the full report being kept secret, we'll never know the depth of true culpability.
Now that's gettin' all mavericky up there in Alaska's political world.
...maverick...wink
Peshkwe
October 10th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Yanno...after watching McCain try to deal with calming the hate/ignorance at one of his stumping speeches, I almost got to thinking that the "My fellow prisoners..." gaff wasn't due to PTSD or senility.
It was a Freudian slip type slip. He's being held prisoner by the Republican party machine.
Palin on the other hand...you can see she likes the energy of the haters. It's like pageant time for her, and she wants that tiara.
TATTRAT
October 11th, 2008, 06:44 AM
you all are such mavericks!
tikiyaki
October 11th, 2008, 07:11 AM
Someone who, it almost pains me how phony she appears, with her on-again, off-again folksy accent, Joe Sixpacks and lame winks.
I agree.
Personally, I've had enough of the Blue Collar posers leading the country. The "hey, they're regular folks, just like me" , dumbed down "aw shucks" rheteroic that has been expoused by GWB is pure poison. Meanwhile they are pushing those middle class folks into poverty, and getting more of the money for themselves and their rich friends, because they earn their trust by dumbing down to their level.
Alot of republicans say Obama and Biden are "elitist" because they speak intelligently and and with composure. I say, give me someone smart for a change. I've had enough mispronunciation of the word "Nuclear" for 8 years, and other bad speaking skills.
That person who called Obama an Arab when speaking to McCain at a rally recently....those are the people that vote in people like GWB for a second term. At least McCain had the decency to say something to this moron. But, these are the people that GWB and, now Palin apppeal to because they are stupid and threatened by real intelligence.
Unfortunately there are so many of them, it's scary.
Kimo
October 11th, 2008, 08:36 AM
I think Sarah Palin is on the verge of becoming the answer to trivia questions of the future. Not a moment too soon.
Mike_Lowery
October 12th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Pictures of Bristol Palin with alcohol and guns
http://filthyrag.com/blog/2008/09/photos-of-sarah-palins-daughter-bristol-with-alcohol-guns/
Good ol' family values!
Peshkwe
October 12th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Hey hey hey....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMEAN-c8_U
Frankie's Market
October 12th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Sarah Palin getting shutout on the $100,000 Pyramid???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXRcFQowXwQ
Vanguard
October 12th, 2008, 02:06 PM
While Troopergate Report Said She Broke State Ethics Law, Alaska Gov. Says She's Exonerated (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/12/politics/main4516113.shtml)
Peshkwe
October 13th, 2008, 02:16 AM
Sarah, you have competition! (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081027/cash?rel=rightsideaccordian)
I present myself to the GOP as a woman, and I repeat, woman, who has held a passport for thirty-eight years, a lip gloss-wearing soccer-volleyball-softball-gymnastics mom of five, who can carry a six-pack home to her husband like nobody's business, whose will is firmly aligned with God's will, a neo-natal conservative and legally savvy public figure, a border-watching, trigonometry-credited, breastfeeding, BlackBerry-tapping, cat-throwing maverick whose daughters are out of their teens, therefore immune to teenage pregnancy (although this is a private, family matter), and whose dad's head (or an eerie facsimile) adorns a state airline.
Frankie's Market
October 13th, 2008, 11:22 AM
While Troopergate Report Said She Broke State Ethics Law, Alaska Gov. Says She's Exonerated (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/12/politics/main4516113.shtml)
Exonerated? The scathing report simply affirmed Palin's constitutional right as governor to terminate state police commissioner Walt Monegan. Palin could have fired him because she simply didn't like the color of his tie. It will be up to Alaskans to decide if the governor had just cause in making her decision to give Monegan his walking papers.
Already, the Troopergate investigation has taken its toll on Palin's popularity in her home state.
Palin's approval ratings slipping (http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/12/post-troopergate-palin-still-popular-in-alaska-just-not-as-much/)
The troopergate episode has contributed to some erosion in Palin’s once-stratospheric popularity in Alaska, according to local pollsters. Her in-state approval rating has dropped from a high of about 85 percent to 65 percent, says Anchorage pollster and political consultant Ivan Moore. “I can anticipate that her rating will drop off into the 50s, maybe even the low 50s,” Mr. Moore says.
Vanguard
October 13th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Exonerated? The scathing report simply affirmed Palin's constitutional right as governor to terminate state police commissioner Walt Monegan. Palin could have fired him because she simply didn't like the color of his tie. It will be up to Alaskans to decide if the governor had just cause in making her decision to give Monegan his walking papers.
Palin Says McCain Will End "Abuses Of Power" -- Despite Report Saying She "Abused Her Power" (http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/despite_report_finding_she_abu.php)
Interesting tactic on their part! Maybe we'll all forget the report!
tutusue
October 13th, 2008, 12:35 PM
Sarah, you have competition! (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081027/cash?rel=rightsideaccordian)
I bet this never happened to Sarah:
I have juggled a breast pump and a BlackBerry, and I know when to put the BlackBerry down. (To be perfectly honest, I did once send a text to the baby and tried to nurse my bass player. You learn from your mistakes.)
:D
Ron Whitfield
October 13th, 2008, 12:40 PM
And they always blame the drummer...
Frankie's Market
October 13th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Just as Sarah Palin's reputation as a govt. reformer has taken a hit with the release of the Troopergate report, another scandal potentially looms. Who built Sarah & Todd Palin's house? Was it the same people who were awarded the contract to build the Wasilla Sports Complex while Palin was the town's mayor?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/11/111018/34/47/627460
Recall that Alaska Senator Ted Stevens has been indicted on charges that he accepted more than a quarter of a million dollars worth of renovation work on his house from an oil company. If it turns out that the Palins also received a sweetheart deal on their home from the same companies that did work on the sports complex, that would totally wreck the "maverick" image that the governor has cultivated for herself.
Pundits were talking about Palin being a leading candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, should McCain lose this year? I would say that Sarah Barracuda had better not look too far ahead because she may have her hands full trying to get re-elected as governor in 2010.
Seeking Penance
October 13th, 2008, 05:48 PM
dog gammit palin - you're just digging yourself a monstrous massive hole
for a moment there palin i rooted for you - simply because of the negativity thrown at you from every angle
*kicks the wall*
i am voting matapule for the upcoming 2012 elections
Ron Whitfield
October 13th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Wow, SP, what on earth or (whatever planet) was in your head to even consider the guppy as a legitimate choice for VP?
matapule
October 14th, 2008, 08:02 AM
i am voting matapule for the upcoming 2012 elections
Ah, shucks, thanks but no thanks to THAT bridge to nowhere. AlohaKine says that I am too butt ugly to be elected to anything.....and AlohaKine is right! I'm going to go drown my sorrows with another six pack. But after a six pack, I can see Japan from my front door! Y'betcha.
http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1230.gif
SusieMisajon
October 14th, 2008, 09:53 AM
I cannot believe that the American people would vote someone such as Palin into this office.
I also cannot believe that she really is drumming up lynchmobs.
This entire spectacle is sad to see.
SusieMisajon
October 14th, 2008, 09:54 AM
PS I can see Spain if I stand on my roof.
Ron Whitfield
October 14th, 2008, 10:54 AM
I can see an Obama win in November with my eyes closed, and yes, wide awake.
Lei K
October 14th, 2008, 11:07 AM
Hope this hasn't been posted yet. :p
Vanguard
October 14th, 2008, 11:10 AM
Hope this hasn't been posted yet. :p
For those of you who want the history behind that internet meme, this is it. (http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/post.html)
TATTRAT
October 15th, 2008, 04:54 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/TATTRAT/palinj.jpg
TATTRAT
October 16th, 2008, 03:07 PM
.......edited....repost, lol.
Lei K
October 17th, 2008, 08:46 AM
I don't think I even need to add a witty caption
:D
Leo Lakio
October 17th, 2008, 12:49 PM
...and this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll4N_pvoSXI) just began playing on my mental jukebox...
anapuni808
October 19th, 2008, 03:36 AM
I watched the complete SNL show tonite - funny, it was not what was described on the internet. Palin only apppeared on an Weedend Update bit. She did not appear with Lorne Michaels, nor did I see Alec Baldwin acting as host. It seemed that the host was Josh Brolin. It was a good show but not what I kept reading about on the net. Did anyone else see a different version?
Composite 2992
October 19th, 2008, 03:44 AM
I missed the start of the show. Here's what can be seen at Huffington Post.
The Tina Fey & Palin look uncanningly similar at the end. They're even about the same height.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html
If Fey can be a body double for Palin. Or if the election doesn't work out, maybe Palin can get an acting job with SNL.
Vanguard
October 19th, 2008, 03:45 AM
To Avoid Being 'Depressed,' Palin Skimps on Campaign News (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/to_avoid_being_depressed_palin.html)
Seeking Penance
October 19th, 2008, 04:03 AM
I missed the start of the show. Here's what can be seen at Huffington Post.
The Tina Fey & Palin look uncanningly similar at the end. They're even about the same height.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html
I give that woman alot of credit!!! (Palin)
Again I say this - she is hated many and I am sure she is loved by a few and I respect that Palin woman for sticking it out - regardless of the negative scathing things thrown at her.
win or not - she wins with me :)
Aloha
Adri
October 19th, 2008, 07:55 AM
I watched the complete SNL show tonite - funny, it was not what was described on the internet. Palin only apppeared on an Weedend Update bit. She did not appear with Lorne Michaels, nor did I see Alec Baldwin acting as host. It seemed that the host was Josh Brolin. It was a good show but not what I kept reading about on the net. Did anyone else see a different version?
I saw her in the opening bit (she got to say the "Live from New York..." bit). She did appear with Lorne Michaels and Alec Baldwin in the beginning (I didn't watch the rest of it so I dunno if she appeared elsewhere).
tutusue
October 19th, 2008, 09:49 AM
Fey as Palin appears in a "press conference" opening skit. It's being viewed by the real Palin and Lorne Michaels back stage. Mark Walberg joins them for a brief exchange...as does Alec Baldwin, who acts like he's standing next to Fey as Palin! When he realizes he's with the real Palin he remarks that she's a lot hotter in person then offers her a tour of the studio. Cut to Fey as Palin still in the press conference when Baldwin rushes out to whisper something in her ear. Fey as Palin responds, "The real one? Bye." and exits frame from the same direction the real Palin enters frame. They cross by each other as the real Palin steps up to the podium to deliver the "Live from New York..." line. IMHO, it paled in comparison to the first 2 shows' skits.
DVRs rock! :D
Leo Lakio
October 19th, 2008, 10:00 AM
I give that woman alot of credit!!! (Palin)
Again I say this - she is hated many and I am sure she is loved by a few and I respect that Palin woman for sticking it out - regardless of the negative scathing things thrown at her.
win or not - she wins with me :)
AlohaI have respect for anyone willing to face the intrusive spotlight of politics. Doesn't mean they'd get my vote, mind you. In order to do that, they would need to be the candidate who most closely reflects my values and beliefs. In recent years, that has not been the candidates put forward by the Republican Party. The Democratic ones have been moving farther away from my "tastes" as well - but they are usually still closer on the scale, at least on the national level. Locally, there have been many non-Democrat candidates I've supported.
Walkoff Balk
October 19th, 2008, 02:29 PM
Was there any mention of the movie based on Sarah Palin by Larry Flynt on SNL?
Seeking Penance
October 19th, 2008, 02:31 PM
I have respect for anyone willing to face the intrusive spotlight of politics. Doesn't mean they'd get my vote, mind you. In order to do that, they would need to be the candidate who most closely reflects my values and beliefs. In recent years, that has not been the candidates put forward by the Republican Party. The Democratic ones have been moving farther away from my "tastes" as well - but they are usually still closer on the scale, at least on the national level. Locally, there have been many non-Democrat candidates I've supported.
respecting your views and opinions leo
mahalo :cool:
LikaNui
October 19th, 2008, 05:49 PM
DVRs rock! :D They do indeed. I was just now watching the DVR of David Letterman's show from Friday night, and Tina Fey was his first guest! Obviously most of the conversation was about her Sarah Palin impersonations. Tina said that the first time she realized she really does look like Palin was when Palin appeared in a TV ad and Tina's child said "There's mommy!"
:p
tutusue
October 19th, 2008, 09:30 PM
I saw her in the opening bit (she got to say the "Live from New York..." bit). She did appear with Lorne Michaels and Alec Baldwin in the beginning (I didn't watch the rest of it so I dunno if she appeared elsewhere).
After realizing I fell asleep during the musical act last night, I just viewed the part of SNL that I slept thru! :o Yes, Palin appeared in 'Weekend Update', refusing to do the skit that was written for her! So, Amy Poehler did a very funny rap routine while Seth and Sarah rocked out to the beat! Cute...but I can't imagine the VERY hapai Amy will make it to next Thursday! :eek:
anapuni808
October 19th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Wish I had DVR! I must have missed the first few minutes of the show - I thought I turned to it at the very beginning but now realize that I must have been a couple minutes late. Ah well, I'll try to see it eventually online.
Ron Whitfield
October 20th, 2008, 09:36 AM
Don't worry, you didn't miss much.
That Palin would go on and then nix doing a skit is par for her style of course.
Loser.
tutusue
October 20th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Don't worry, you didn't miss much.
That Palin would go on and then nix doing a skit is par for her style of course.
Loser.
I did see the entire skit and it appeared to me that Palin nixing a part of the skit was actually a part of the skit! It was scripted that way; a parody on her nixing just about everything else involved with the media. Personally, I found it funny!
Peshkwe
October 20th, 2008, 10:56 AM
Here are the two skits Palin was in on this past SNL:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-on-snl-with-t_n_135887.html
Peshkwe
October 20th, 2008, 11:00 AM
Was there any mention of the movie based on Sarah Palin by Larry Flynt on SNL?
And just for you......
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/nailin-paylin-watch-first_n_136020.html
Ron Whitfield
October 20th, 2008, 02:39 PM
TS, I believe there was one she wouldn't agree to, and the one shown is a take-off on that.
Maybe not...
But it was fun watching her twist in the wind in the Michaels/Brolin piece.
Ron Whitfield
October 20th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Sarah just can't keep her foot out of her mouth.
Now she's genuflecting towards the pro-American part's of the country.
It's a toss up as to who McCain will shoot 1st if he get's ahold of a gun, himself, or her. He was completely bummed during his media appearences this last Sunday, speaking in a very tired monotone that ignored questions and conversation and simply plowed thru the old messages. A few times it sounded as tho he would break into tears.
Go home, John, Cindy's got dinner on. Better take your taster...
tutusue
October 20th, 2008, 07:35 PM
TS, I believe there was one she wouldn't agree to, and the one shown is a take-off on that.
Maybe not...[...]
Ron...your perception was just confirmed on the news and on ET. Apparently SNL wrote the 'rap' part for Palin and she refused. Amy Poehler did it instead.
Ron Whitfield
October 21st, 2008, 02:52 PM
Now, there has been an AP investigation into Palin padding her Alaskan Governor's travel roster, which is specifically intended for those 'conducting official business' only, with her children, at tax payer's expense, and then(!), re-writing the language after the fact to make it apprear it was OK.
Forget the knee high's, with this endlessly growing vat of crap, we need full suit diver's gear, complete with hard hat, to survive drowning in this woman's enormous pile of BS. Her and Lingle, 2 peas in a pod.
LikaNui
October 21st, 2008, 04:49 PM
The whole story is at this link (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081021/BREAKING/81021051), but here are some interesting excerpts:
Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.
Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor's children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state