The Ignore Feature

[timkona]

Ever use it? Ever take somebody off ignore to read what they wrote? Can you see a new thread started by somebody you have on ignore? Are you scared, or insulted, or shocked, or offended? Does your ignorance override your curiosity? Don't worry, intelligence is optional.

I think anybody using the ignore feature is a nitwit in the first place.

[Leo Lakio]

Then I'm a nitwit - because it helps me to avoid posts by spammers and trolls.

And I used to use it more, and would then read posts by those I "ignored." Despite what your sig suggests, I even admitted to it on the board at the time.

I use it much more selectively now - perhaps because the spammers and trolls are far fewer these days, thanks to controls put in place by admin.

I've got no problem with others using it, for their peace of mind, to decrease blood-pressure, for a temporary respite, to make a statement, to ignore me, whatever.

NOTHING I have to say here is of such critical importance that it can not be ignored; to believe otherwise is egotistical.

[matapule]

I think anybody using the ignore feature is a nitwit in the first place.

I put my seven year old in "time out" a couple of times. Is that the same thing as Ignore? I may be in BIG trouble here!

[helen]

The problem is not using or using the ignore feature. The problem is announcing to the rest of the world (in a thread) that you are putting so and so on ignore. That doesn't serve any useful purpose.

[sinjin]

Never have, never would.

[scrivener]

Sometimes, I would like to put myself on ignore.

[Leo Lakio]

I put my seven year old in "time out" a couple of times. Is that the same thing as Ignore? I may be in BIG trouble here!You, like me, are a parent. That automatically makes us "nitwits" in their eyes...eventually.
The problem is announcing to the rest of the world (in a thread) that you are putting so and so on ignore. That doesn't serve any useful purpose.Very insightful comment.
Sometimes, I would like to put myself on ignore.Very funny statement.

[matapule]

You, like me, are a parent. That automatically makes us "nitwits" in their eyes...eventually.


I hear ya. That seven year old is now old enough to put me on Ignore sometimes.....can't say I blame her.

[tutusue]

By your standards, timkona, I'm incompetent. I feel honored. I truly do.

(For the record, I haven't used ignore since PJ was, ummm, banished! ;) And, no, I didn't read his posts while "ignored". Why would I? It was bad enough that he was quoted! And, another ;) to you-know-who!)

[timkona]

Who is PJ? Who is "you know who"?
I miss Manoa. Can he ever come back? Admin?

[Leo Lakio]

Who is PJ? Who is "you know who"?PJ exists here no more. "You know who" knows who "you" is. If you don't know who "you" is, you isn't "you." :cool:

Just ignore all that.

[Random]

I think anybody using the ignore feature is a nitwit in the first place.
Really. :mad:

[tutusue]

PJ exists here no more. "You know who" knows who "you" is. If you don't know who "you" is, you isn't "you." :cool:[...]
Yup! What LL said! I guess we're both mentally incompetent nitwits, LL. I hope you feel as honored as I do.

[sinjin]

Who is PJ? Who is "you know who"?
I miss Manoa. Can he ever come back? Admin?PJ=Palolo Joe.

[TuNnL]

For me, the main fallacy with the “ignore” feature, is I would prefer to apply it to certain statements, rather than to individuals. I’m sure all of us on this board have heard something so offensive or ignorant, that our better judgement is impaired for a fleeting moment which may or may not result in an ill-advised response. As far as I know, technology has not advanced to the level where this is a possible mode of filtering. In cyberspace, we either read someone’s thoughts in all its splendor along with its warts, or we do not see it at all. This is because we cannot stop someone mid-sentence before they make a bigger (to use PJ’s term) jackass of themselves on the Internet. They’re going to say what they’re going to say.

I know it offends me when people waste bandwidth by making random statements just to push people’s buttons. My main goal for joining the HT community was to further my knowledge of issues in my community and beyond. But what I have found is there is more than one or two people who do not participate in such discussions with the same goals in mind. Their goal is mainly to promote an agenda, namely one of their own preference. In doing so, they will discount and belittle any opinion that disagrees with theirs, solely because it hurts their agenda. They are not interested in facts, truth, or the exchange of diverse perspectives in the marketplace of ideas. They only wish to persuade you think like them. IMHO, that is a pilau pursuit that goes against the principles I believe Ryan had in mind when he created Hawaiithreads.com.

[turtlegirl]

Happy to be in the same category as LL and Tutu!

Wow, If only there was an ignore button in real life!!

I'd start my list by "ignore buttoning" that jerk in my night class that shouts out the answers before the teacher finishes the questions. See, TK, the ignore button could be used to fight ignorance by helping me learn! :D

[lavagal]

I had someone on ignore for a little while, but then I'd miss out on what other people were saying with them. So I took them off ignore. I may be in the minority here, but if I put someone on ignore, then I miss the opportunity to read a train wreck of a thread on ocasion.

[salmoned]

I've never considered using ignore - if I want to ignore, I either don't visit or don't respond. The only poster from whom I have yet to glean anything of value, sansei, may some day post something I find of crucial importance (I'm still hopeful). So, although I often don't respond to threads/posts, I'm still readin' 'em (threads that appear interesting, at least).

LL (below), no, I've previously read that one.

[Leo Lakio]

The only poster from whom I have yet to glean anything of value, sansei, may some day post something I find of crucial importance (I'm still hopeful).Perhaps this thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=15311) may provide you with something insightful, though not necessarily "crucial."

[cyleet99]

Good reminder, Leo. I think the varied points of view make HT what it is. Someone looking for angry, argumentative posting can go to thousands of other websites to find their fix.

I don't use the ignore feature, either. Tried it once; not useful. Lack of response and/or not reading the thread work better for me.

[turtlegirl]

Ever use it? Ever take somebody off ignore to read what they wrote? Can you see a new thread started by somebody you have on ignore? Are you scared, or insulted, or shocked, or offended? Does your ignorance override your curiosity? Don't worry, intelligence is optional.

I think anybody using the ignore feature is a nitwit in the first place.

Okay, when you call your possible respondents and bretheren on this forum "nitwits", you are not exactly fostering a lively or interesting thread.

But, I'll bite - here are some answers to the above questions.

-Yes.
-No.
-No.
-Seriously? That question doesn't even have a subject! To assume that the subject is "people on your ignore list" - of all the things that I could be scared, shocked, offended or insulted by - other peoples' points of view, thoughts, or feelings don't even make that list.
-As for that last question, I won't even bother.

Have a beautiful afternoon! :)

[Adri]

Huh. Well, I haven't put anyone on ignore yet but I do wanna be in the same group as tutusue. Can I just sit with your group tutusue or should I start looking for someone to put on ignore first? ;)

[tutusue]

Huh. Well, I haven't put anyone on ignore yet but I do wanna be in the same group as tutusue. Can I just sit with your group tutusue or should I start looking for someone to put on ignore first? ;)
If you feel...or timkona feels...that you're a mentally incompetent nitwit, Adri, then, by all means, join our group; in spite of the ignore button. It'll be an honor to have you as a member. ;) What should we name our illustrious group?

[cyleet99]

OH, oh!! Is this like the Ice Cream Group? :D

[Vanguard]

For me to ignore someone, they'd have to spam advertisements, or act in an extremely offensive manner, i.e. things that would be banworthy on any forum. I would never ignore someone just because I don't agree with their viewpoint or if they were just mildly annoying. :p

[kani-lehua]

never have used it and never knew it existed. somehow, it sounds like the staples commericial where they use the "easy" button. then there's that commercial where the young girl wants to buy a pair of $219 jeans and is told the price. the mom whips out the "easy" button and is told that it doesn't work there.

[Leo Lakio]

What should we name our illustrious group?Why..the HT Ignorami, of course!

[Nords]

The problem is not using or using the ignore feature. The problem is announcing to the rest of the world (in a thread) that you are putting so and so on ignore. That doesn't serve any useful purpose.
I think it serves the purpose of letting them know that you're no longer responding to whatever game it is that they're playing.

And when a troll is deprived of their audience then it makes it really hard for them to troll.

Some vBulletin discussion boards program their "Ignore Poster" feature to keep a running tally of who's on the top ten of the user's "Ignore Poster" lists. That's a fairly reliable indicator of who's getting infractions or even banned. There may be controversy over the utility of making such a top-ten list public, but I think it's just as useful as getting "thanks" or "karma points" or other recognition.

[TuNnL]

when a troll is deprived of their audience then it makes it really hard for them to troll.I would think that would be a prime reason not to let them know you are ignoring them. Because if you do, you are feeding the troll’s most basic instinct: a desire for attention, a desire to be recognized — whether in a complimentary or disparaging way. And most of all, instilling a sense of confidence in the “troll” that he or she has “gotten your goat” and can move on to the next unsuspecting victim.

Oh yeah, I forgot. You’re ignoring me. Well, it’s still something valuable to consider. :rolleyes:

[Walkoff Balk]

Be careful about who you "ignore." You don't want Glen Close to cook rabbit stew on your stove.

[TuNnL]

Be careful about who you "ignore." You don't want Glen Close to cook rabbit stew on your stove.http://www.sirlistalot.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/rabbit.JPG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZmbXN_pcjI) <— Don’t click! :eek:

[Adri]

Thanks Tutusue!

I think it serves the purpose of letting them know that you're no longer responding to whatever game it is that they're playing.

And when a troll is deprived of their audience then it makes it really hard for them to troll.

Some vBulletin discussion boards program their "Ignore Poster" feature to keep a running tally of who's on the top ten of the user's "Ignore Poster" lists. That's a fairly reliable indicator of who's getting infractions or even banned. There may be controversy over the utility of making such a top-ten list public, but I think it's just as useful as getting "thanks" or "karma points" or other recognition.

I think people will know you stopped responding to them when you stop responding to them. Or they will figure it out eventually. or who cares if they ever figure it out if you think so lowly of them that you put them on ignore? and if there are no responses, it makes it hard for a troll to troll. But I agree with TuNeL (sorry if you don't want to see this because you're ignoring him or her) that such announcements only assure the receiving poster that they've gotten to you and gives them attention. and in some cases, those announcements are just attention seeking from the announcers as well. On a different board, we used to have certain posters who would get into spats or have their sensibilities offended and then announce they were ignoring other posters or that they were so offended they were leaving the board and eventually these announcements came to be known as ignoring or leaving in a stompy footed way. On that particular board.

Regarding keeping score of other posters' infractions or who gets banned, I trust the moderators here to do that. I suspect a top ten list even of something like being the most ignored poster would lead to trolls vying to be on the top of that list.

[helen]

I think it serves the purpose of letting them know that you're no longer responding to whatever game it is that they're playing.

And when a troll is deprived of their audience then it makes it really hard for them to troll.

If you want to notify the person you put on ignore via Private Message that's up to you. The point I am trying to make is don't make it public via a thread, it's just making a thread drift further from the topic and it's just make things worse, because most people are not going to take such news lying down.

Some vBulletin discussion boards program their "Ignore Poster" feature to keep a running tally of who's on the top ten of the user's "Ignore Poster" lists. That's a fairly reliable indicator of who's getting infractions or even banned. There may be controversy over the utility of making such a top-ten list public, but I think it's just as useful as getting "thanks" or "karma points" or other recognition.

Regarding keeping score of other posters' infractions or who gets banned, I trust the moderators here to do that. I suspect a top ten list even of something like being the most ignored poster would lead to trolls vying to be on the top of that list.

While we tried to test out infractions some time ago, it's just a tool that isn't very useful here. And in case you haven't noticed we haven't done reputation for over 2-1/2 years and speaking for myself I don't see it being enabled again.

[timkona]

What a fun thread. Y'all are so smart, that's why I love to read it.

I don't know how to use the ignore feature. :confused:

[Menehune Man]

I haven't 'ignored' anyone.
Wanna hear what they have to say.

Sometimes I don't respond, or laugh, cry, yell, have cursed even, but...
'ignore' no.

[sinjin]

I'm convinced even people I detest might share a nugget of wisdom infrequently.:p
I do miss the rep thing though. It was like cyber-aloha.:cool:

[Leo Lakio]

they were so offended they were leaving the board and eventually these announcements came to be known as ignoring or leaving in a stompy footed way.And then, when they had something personal they wanted to promote, they usually came right back. Well, on another board I frequent, there's one poster who has stomped out and returned three times. Just like a little child.

I can think of a couple people who left HT in that fashion, but I don't believe they returned (other than to lurk).

[helen]

Can you see a new thread started by somebody you have on ignore?
The answer to that question is yes. You won't see the text initially but the thread will be listed in the forum indices.

Putting someone on your ignore list just hides the text from being viewed, if you want to view the contents of that post just click on the View Post link, you don't have to remove that user from the ignore list to see what they posted.

[Leo Lakio]

I think someone answered this question in the affirmative some time ago, but I'll ask again (since we are on the topic again) -

If you put someone on "ignore," will that prevent them from being able to send you a PM?

[Vanguard]

Frankly, I'm surprised to see so much talk of the ignore feature on an internet forum with a relatively low population who appear to be quite net-savvy and well-mannered compared to elsewhere.

[helen]

I think someone answered this question in the affirmative some time ago, but I'll ask again (since we are on the topic again) -

If you put someone on "ignore," will that prevent them from being able to send you a PM?

I have no idea. If you wish to test this out, temporary put me on ignore, then let me know and I will attempt to send a couple of PM.

When it's done you can remove me from your ignore list.

[Leo Lakio]

Frankly, I'm surprised to see so much talk of the ignore feature on an internet forum with a relatively low population who appear to be quite net-savvy and well-mannered compared to elsewhere.That's probably because (1) some of these issues are not covered in the FAQ, and those who are less net-savvy might not even know what to ask about, and (2) we are well-mannered enough to actually discuss whether or not to use such a function - rather than just flaming each other with wild abandon.

Or not.

Feel free to ignore my answer. ;)

[Leo Lakio]

OK, helen - as much as it pained me to do so, you are now "ignored" (purely for the sake of this test, you understand.)

When I see you post here again, I'll just choose to view those posts, but will leave you "ignored" until we have results. Thanks.

[helen]

I just sent Leo Lakio a couple of Private Messages. From my standpoint it did not notify me that I was being ignored. I also recived an Private Message from Leo as well, which I replied to.

[Leo Lakio]

I just sent Leo Lakio a couple of Private Messages. From my standpoint it did not notify me that I was being ignored. I also recived an Private Message from Leo as well, which I replied to.I received none of your messages, not even the reply to the test I sent you while you were on "ignore" (which you are no longer, btw). Now we know; if you ignore someone, you won't get their Private Messages either - but they won't know it. Thanks, helen.

[helen]

Try go into Private Messages again. You do know that you have an Inbox and Sent Items folder. Try see if there is another folder that got created for you that holds the ignored messages, as well as checking out on the Private Message total count that is displayed to see that number matches up.

[Leo Lakio]

Try go into Private Messages again. You do know that you have an Inbox and Sent Items folder. Try see if there is another folder that got created for you that holds the ignored messages, as well as checking out on the Private Message total count that is displayed to see that number matches up.Nope. Just "Inbox" and "Sent Items." The count is the same as it has been for quite some time, too. Those test messages have flown away...except that they may still live in your "sent" box.

[helen]

Nope. Just "Inbox" and "Sent Items." The count is the same as it has been for quite some time, too.
So much for that idea.

except that they may still live in your "sent" box.
Yep they are still there.

[Vanguard]

That's probably because (1) some of these issues are not covered in the FAQ, and those who are less net-savvy might not even know what to ask about, and (2) we are well-mannered enough to actually discuss whether or not to use such a function - rather than just flaming each other with wild abandon.

Or not.

Feel free to ignore my answer. ;)

When I mentioned net-savvy, I didn't mean that just for the sake of knowing about how to use the ignore feature -- being net-savvy also allows one to avoid certain misunderstandings and flashpoints. Assuming good faith and not assuming the worst (i.e. a personal attack) when one sees a disagreement is also being net-savvy IMO; being aware that 70% of communication is non-verbal, which we lose when speaking to one another on internet text forums.

The relatively small population and longevity of this forum should enable us to argue with one another with wild abandon and still come back to the conclusion that we can all be good friends with common interests.

[Leo Lakio]

Well said, Vanguard. I get ya.

[Vanguard]

Thanks for the kind words, to be fair, I learned the crux of that from this very forum. :cool:

[matapule]

Vanguard is the bomb.

[zff]

What did the original poster say? I can't see his posts.








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