Fans of Firefox

[Konaguy]

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

[adrian]

How is it?

From what I heard, your extensions don't "follow the new installation" and some people's computers slowed down (I don't know if its the internet surfing or if they have too many spyware).

[Konaguy]

How is it?

From what I heard, your extensions don't "follow the new installation" and some people's computers slowed down (I don't know if its the internet surfing or if they have too many spyware).


I have been running it since yesterday and it works fine.
I reinstalled all my extensions is probably the best advice.
A work around to make themes and extensions work in 1.0PR
is going to about:config, right click on one of enteries,
select New-> String, Type in app.extensions.version,
then type in 0.9
The 1.0PR compatible extensions are listed here :

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
http://update.mozilla.org/

These extensions work too :
http://www.exchangecode.com/spellbound/
http://jgillick.nettripper.com/ [Extension uninstaller, Tiny URL]

[pzarquon]

I haven't installed it yet, but the "live bookmarks (http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/story1063.shtml)" (embedded RSS features) are especially intriguing to me. It's actually a pretty big new feature to roll into a preview release, and apparently not all sites (http://weblog.infoworld.com/dickerson/2004/09/16.html) with RSS feeds work (it requires a META tag that's not in all pages with RSS links), but it's one of the reasons I'm a fan. Firefox continues to improve, just when MSIE has been left for dead.

It's had tabbed browsing forever, a feature so simple and useful I can't believe it didn't make it into MSIE in years of development. And now it never will.

There's a concerted campaign to prove that Firefox is a real contender in the browser wars. (Even though some have already proclaimed the battle over, for both camps.) Check out the Spread Firefox (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/) site, where they're pushing to have 1 million downloads of Firefox in ten days (two days in, they're up to 500,000 already). They even give you neat buttons you can post on your own websites that'll track how many people click through.

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/images/affiliates/Buttons/120x60/trust.gif (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=4195&t=75)


If you haven't tried Firefox, now's as good a time as any!

[melorama]

I echo the props for Firefox. I've been using it ever since it was called "Phoenix", and have seen its quality jump leaps and bounds with each release (and also with each confusing name change).

My only problems with it so far is that it's terribly buggy on Mac OSX (especially with some of the most important extensions, such as Tabbrowser Preferences and Mouse Gestures), and it's still outperformed by IE on slower PC's (in my case, a 450 Mhz PII box!).

But otherwise, Firefox rocks. In fact, I am making it the default browser on every computer system that I am called upon to "fix" (invariably because the user was using IE and the absolutely horrifyingly terrible Outlook, and managed to screw up via spyware, virii, etc.)

Just say NO to Internet Explorer!

[adrian]

I haven't installed it yet, but the "live bookmarks (http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/story1063.shtml)" (embedded RSS features) are especially intriguing to me. It's actually a pretty big new feature to roll into a preview release, and apparently not all sites (http://weblog.infoworld.com/dickerson/2004/09/16.html) with RSS feeds work (it requires a META tag that's not in all pages with RSS links), but it's one of the reasons I'm a fan. Firefox continues to improve, just when MSIE has been left for dead.

It's had tabbed browsing forever, a feature so simple and useful I can't believe it didn't make it into MSIE in years of development. And now it never will.

There's a concerted campaign to prove that Firefox is a real contender in the browser wars. (Even though some have already proclaimed the battle over, for both camps.) Check out the Spread Firefox (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/) site, where they're pushing to have 1 million downloads of Firefox in ten days (two days in, they're up to 500,000 already). They even give you neat buttons you can post on your own websites that'll track how many people click through.

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/images/affiliates/Buttons/120x60/trust.gif (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=4195&t=75)


If you haven't tried Firefox, now's as good a time as any!

Where can I get it?

I installed FF 1 on my brother's computer (the one I had to reformat) and it had it in there. When I installed it, it imported all of my bookmarks and other things from my previous version (thank god) but I didn't see the "live bookmarks" anywhere.

[Konaguy]

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=1037

[pzarquon]

Where can I get it?I'm not sure what you mean. When you visit a site that has an RSS feed, you'll see the little "RSS" logo in your status bar. Clicking that will allow you to set a "live bookmark" - which is really just a somewhat gimmicky way of saying, "subscribe to this site's syndication feed." Here's the official explanation (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks.html).

Note that not all sites with RSS feeds will trigger the "RSS" logo, since Firefox requires said site to also disclose the presense of the feed in its header. Lots of sites, this one included, have RSS feeds, but will need tweaking for Firefox to pick it up automatically. Fortunately, you can always manually create the live bookmark as long as you have the URL to where the feed (usually index.xml/.rdf or something similar).

[easTTriver]

http://news.com.com/Planning+to+dump+IE+Think+again/2100-1032_3-5388755.html

[melorama]

http://news.com.com/Planning+to+dump+IE+Think+again/2100-1032_3-5388755.html

That's why there is a "IE View" extension (http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=35&vid=145) for Firefox/Mozilla. So when you come across a site that breals in Firefox, you can just rightclick and load the page up in an IE window.

So far, though I havent run into any sites that break Firefox at all.

[Konaguy]

So far, though I havent run into any sites that break Firefox at all.


I concur I haven't really run into many sites that break FF.

[pzarquon]

I concur I haven't really run into many sites that break FF.This site seems to behave differently in 1.0PR than it did in 0.93, weirdly enough. The fully enhanced message editor is available in 0.93, but in 1.0PR, none of the automatic formatting functions (i.e. clicking the "bold" command while text is selected) work... you get the vBulletin code (bracketed command) equivalents.

I'm still researching why.

And while I don't run into many sites that are broken in Firefox, I run into more than a few sites that ridiculously refuse to work for Firefox. That is, you arrive at the site, and you're presented with a message that says, "Sorry, you need MSIE to view this site." Since Firefox would in almost all cases render the content just fine, this kind of built-in bias is especially annoying.

[melorama]

And while I don't run into many sites that are broken in Firefox, I run into more than a few sites that ridiculously refuse to work for Firefox. That is, you arrive at the site, and you're presented with a message that says, "Sorry, you need MSIE to view this site." Since Firefox would in almost all cases render the content just fine, this kind of built-in bias is especially annoying.

You can get around such moronic barricades by using an extension that spoofs your browser's User-Agent string, so that it fools the detection script into thinking your running IE.

Thankfully, I havent encountered many sites that are lame enough to block out specific browsers, so I havent had a need for UA-spoofing for a long time, so I cant recommend a specific extension.

[adrian]

This site seems to behave differently in 1.0PR than it did in 0.93, weirdly enough. The fully enhanced message editor is available in 0.93, but in 1.0PR, none of the automatic formatting functions (i.e. clicking the "bold" command while text is selected) work... you get the vBulletin code (bracketed command) equivalents.

I'm still researching why.

And while I don't run into many sites that are broken in Firefox, I run into more than a few sites that ridiculously refuse to work for Firefox. That is, you arrive at the site, and you're presented with a message that says, "Sorry, you need MSIE to view this site." Since Firefox would in almost all cases render the content just fine, this kind of built-in bias is especially annoying.
The only site that I come across that displayed that message, was at the windows update site.

[Konaguy]

http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ can change the UA string among other things.

[Konaguy]

Here is a list of FF Extensions I have installed :

Flashblock
Extension Uninstaller
Extension uninstaller API
MozCac
Adblock
Allow Right Click
Block Fall
Bookmark Backup
Bookmark Duplicate Detector
Configuration Mania
Dictionary Search
Download Status Bar
EM Buttons
Get File Size
IE View
Image Zoom
Install a new Theme
Minesweeper
Mozilla Calender
Open Book
Paste and Go
Popup Allow
Pref Bar
Print
Print Preview
Quick Note
Secure Password Generator
Show Failed URL
Show Old Extensions
Single Window
Spellbound
Sort Bookmarks
Statusbar Clock
Tab X
Stop/Reload
Things they left out
Tiny URL
Toolbar Enhancements
View Cookies
Tweak network
Weather Fox

[Miulang]

If you really love Foxfire, go to the website listed in this ZDNet article, send $30 and you could get your name in the New York Times!

Mozilla has contracted with the NYT to run a "open source community-funded" ad in November. And if you can convince 10 of your best geek friends to contribute too, you get a "Community Champion" designation next to your name in the ad!

More here: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9593_22-5419504.html?tag=zdnn.alert

Miulang

[adrian]

If you really love Foxfire, go to the website listed in this ZDNet article, send $30 and you could get your name in the New York Times!

Mozilla has contracted with the NYT to run a "open source community-funded" ad in November. And if you can convince 10 of your best geek friends to contribute too, you get a "Community Champion" designation next to your name in the ad!

More here: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9593_22-5419504.html?tag=zdnn.alert

Miulang
Foxfire? :confused:

Oh, and on slashdot.com, today (10/20) is a day that all windows based browsers has a vulnerability in them, the obvious one, IE.

Its a good thing that I'm using my school's computer for the whole day today.

[Miulang]

Foxfire? :confused:

Oh, and on slashdot.com, today (10/20) is a day that all windows based browsers has a vulnerability in them, the obvious one, IE.

Its a good thing that I'm using my school's computer for the whole day today.
OK, Adrian, it's FireFox... :p . You gonna get 10 of your friends to sign up for the ad?

Miulang

[pzarquon]

Oh, and on slashdot.com, today (10/20) is a day that all windows based browsers has a vulnerability in them, the obvious one, IE.Here's the Slashdot (http://it.slashdot.org/it/04/10/20/1344208.shtml) thread. Note the MSIE problem is pretty serious. The problem for the other browsers is "spoofing" (with tabbed browsing, you need to be able to know which page/site is spawning a Javascript function), and would require some specific scenarios for fraud to take place.

It bears noting that the Mozilla folks had it listed as a bug (124750) and fixed it already. Run "Check for Updates Now" under Tools > Options > Advanced to make sure you get it.

And Foxfire? Just watched it this week. A fun movie, if not a good movie. :)

[Miulang]

Another ZDNet article reports that Mozilla says the bug in FireFox hasn't been fixed in the preview version, but will be fixed by the time 1.0 ships.

Miulang

[Konaguy]

http://secunia.com/advisories/12712/


Description:
Secunia Research has discovered two vulnerabilities in Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, and Camino, which can be exploited by malicious web sites to obtain sensitive information and spoof dialog boxes.

1) Inactive tabs can launch dialog boxes so they appear to be displayed by a web site in another tab. This can be exploited by a malicious web site to show a dialog box, which seems to originate from a trusted web site.

Successful exploitation would normally require that a user is tricked into opening a link from a malicious web site to a trusted web site in a new tab

[NemesisVex]

The full version of Firefox 1.0 was released yesterday (11/09), and the Mozilla servers have been slammed like crazy. It's especially problematic when trying to hit mozdev.org to update extensions and plugins.

I've seen the server overloads described as "success crisis".

[adrian]

The full version of Firefox 1.0 was released yesterday (11/09), and the Mozilla servers have been slammed like crazy. It's especially problematic when trying to hit mozdev.org to update extensions and plugins.

I've seen the server overloads described as "success crisis".
So, who's getting it?

I won't because I don't want to lose all of my extensions like before.

[Glen Miyashiro]

I'm using Firefox 1.0 right now. I don't use any extensions, so they're not an issue for me. One feature I hadn't noticed before is a new Find box at the bottom margin to help search for text on web pages. It's quite nice.

[Konaguy]

I upgraded to FF 1.0 and amazingly it was glitch free.
Probably the reason why though was I tweaked the app.version
to .10 http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=973
I have 26 extensions installed by the way.

[Linkmeister]

Is anyone using MT 3.121 with Firefox v. 1.0 (preview release)? Is it just the browser that has the main menu for MT vertically arranged down the left side (and crammed over there at that), or is the new MT that way? It's not nearly as user-friendly as the old MT 2.661 menu was.

I also have some kind of glitch which kicks me back to the MT sign-in screen after saving an entry. I have to sign in again and re-save to get the entry rebuilt. I've posted this at the MT forum, but I've gotten no response at all from there.

Anybody experiencing similar glitches?

[pzarquon]

I haven't had any problems like you've experienced, Link. Moveable Type 2.661 and 3.121 seem to be working as designed - no unexpected logouts (sounds like a cookie persistence problem), at least. Are you running anything like Norton Internet Security or Clean Sweep or a utility that exterminates cookies? Maybe you can add your domain to the Security settings as a place that can set cookies without restrictions?

As for the appearance of Movable Type (ah, the confusions of doing two upgrades at once!), the menu in 3.121 is definitely less elegant - nothing at all on the left in the Main Menu, and smaller text boxes far to the left in the individual blog menu. The right-side sidebar is nice enough, though.

[Konaguy]

You might be able to get more help if you posted your problem here
http://forums.mozillazine.org/ and maybe contracted the extension developer.

[Linkmeister]

Well, thanks for the help, folks. It seems to have cleared up after the cache got dumped during two reboots earlier today. Odd, huh?

[Glen Miyashiro]

Internet Explorer has dropped below 90% (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4037833.stm) of the browser market, mostly due to the success of Firefox. But does this mean that virus writers will start targeting Firefox as well as IE? Keep your software updated, folks!

[adrian]

I just hope that portable firefox will be updated as well.

[adrian]

Yes folks, the best browser available is now available for your USB flash drive for firefox anywhere there's a computer, a USB port, and an internet connection.

Portable Firefox (http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/) is a .zip file that is available at the link, and you just have to unzip it onto your USB drive and you can now use it anywhere you go.

That site also has link to Mozilla's Thunderbird, its open source email client to allow you to check your email (if you know how).

The best has gotten better!

[Glen Miyashiro]

Cool. So if you use this on a public machine, do you leave cookies behind? Or are they all kept on the USB drive also?

[adrian]

Cool. So if you use this on a public machine, do you leave cookies behind? Or are they all kept on the USB drive also?
It looks like it doesn't, but if you check the website, then it'll show that some things does get written to the local hard drive (but it looks harmless).

[Glen Miyashiro]

I just discovered the extremely useful BugMeNot extension (http://extensions.roachfiend.com/index.php#bugmenot) to Firefox. How great is that? :D

[adrian]

I just discovered the extremely useful BugMeNot extension (http://extensions.roachfiend.com/index.php#bugmenot) to Firefox. How great is that? :D
Thanks for reminding me to install it.

[cezanne]

Would I be able to still do online banking stuff via Firefox? I have no idea what it means but you know how sometimes its a requirement to have that 128-bit encryption deal on your browser.

Also, I remember when for some reason I switched my default browser from Netscape to IE, the mess I made of converting my email folders to be read by IE.

Is it easy to convert to Firefox?

[Linkmeister]

It's a snap to convert. It'll import your old bookmarks, too.

And I don't know about other banks, but I've had no trouble with online banking at BOH.

[Konaguy]

Its a snap to convert and I can easily do my online banking through Firefox
too :).

[cezanne]

Thanks. I went to the links provided earlier in the thread and I guess Firefox is just the browser. Did anyone convert to their email client too (Thunderbird)?

If I'm thinking of going with FF because of the popups, spyware, etc associated with IE. Would it make sense to use the FF browser and keep Outlook Express?

[Konaguy]

Yes I have converted to the Thunderbird mail client. It is really easy to use
Highly recommended to switch from OE to Thunderbird :).

[cezanne]

The Firefox install went without a hitch and it was pretty automatic. It really cleaned up my browser screenspace... I like the "little" space that the google search box now shares on the toolbar.

Anyway, what is tabbed browsing? Do I have to activate it? I saved some of my main bookmarks to the toolbar... is that what it is? I was thinking that it was more of a per session feature.

Also, I'll be checking out the extensions. I'm confused, are they made by the makers of Firefox or by fans of the browser?

[Konaguy]

The tabbed browsing does not be activated, nor its the bookmark toobar. Just right click on the browser window
and select new tab.

The extensions are made by individuals not necessarily affliated with Mozilla. Hence the term Open Source.

http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?os=Windows&application=firefox/
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=53650
http://forums.mozillazine.org/
http://themes.mozdev.org/xml/themelist2.html?app=thunderbird&num=all
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?os=Windows&application=thunderbird/
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/
http://www.tweakfactor.com/articles/tweaks/firefoxtweak/4.html

[Miulang]

Three more bugs (http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=59301980) have been discovered in Firefox 1.0 and Mozilla 1.7.5, the latest releases from the Mozilla Foundation. The bugs have been fixed, but you can't download a patch, and the next release of Firefox, which was scheduled for March, has been delayed (http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=59200488) until June.

"The flaws, all of which involve some user action, can be used by hackers to drop code onto a PC, muck with the about:config element of the browser, or steal cookies that, for instance, provide instant access to protected Web sites.

"If you create a hybrid of a .gif image and a batch file you can trick Firefox," claimed the German researcher identified only as "mikx" by Danish security firm Secunia, in his original warning of one of the bugs. ..."



Miulang

[kamapuaa]

For all of the huge nerds in the house, Firefox 1.0.1 beta is available for your browsing pleasure here (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-aviary1.0.1/) . Also, I can't believe that no one has mentioned the most useful firefox plugin ever created by man: adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org). :)

[Konaguy]

Adblock is a Godsend :) Oh yeah Firefox 1.01 was released today. I just upgraded. It is available on Mozilla.org

[kamapuaa]

Adblock is a Godsend :) Oh yeah Firefox 1.01 was released today. I just upgraded. It is available on Mozilla.org

People onthe net have been claiming it's got a shorter load time, as well as faster page rendering. Have you noticed much of a difference? I think I bot a better speed bump when I disabled IPv6 in 1.0. Just curious.

[Konaguy]

I haven't noticed much of a difference. But on the other hand I have FF tweaked to the max :).

[Miulang]

Secunia announced they found a breach in FF 1.0 and 1.0.2 (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5655861.html?tag=zdnn.alert) which might make potentially sensitive information stored on drives vulnerable. Mozilla has no patch for it yet.

Miulang

[adrian]

Mozilla Launches Firefox 2.0 Browser
By Nate Mook, BetaNews
October 23, 2006, 11:38 AM

The Mozilla Corporation on Monday posted to its download site the final release of Firefox 2.0, the second-generation release of the popular alternative Web browser. An official announcement is expected Tuesday.

New features in Firefox 2.0 include enhancements in security, tabbed browsing, performance, and extensions. The browser update also includes a built-in spell checking and an anti-phishing feature, much like Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7, which launched last week.

Source (http://www.betanews.com/article/Mozilla_Launches_Firefox_20_Browser/1161617884) and complete article.

And looked who sent a cake. (http://fredericiana.com/2006/10/24/from-redmond-with-love/)

[manoasurfer123]

Don't forget all the Firefox parties set for Oct. 27th.

Anyone in Hawaii going to host one?

http://www.firefoxparty.com/

[Lei Liko]

So I just dl-ed 2.0 and am already having trouble with my tabbed browsing. I can get the tabs to open, and the first tab to load, but when I click on the 2nd one and type in the URL, the page opens in the first tab.

If anyone can help, that'd be wonderful. I hate having so many windows up.

[adrian]

So I just dl-ed 2.0 and am already having trouble with my tabbed browsing. I can get the tabs to open, and the first tab to load, but when I click on the 2nd one and type in the URL, the page opens in the first tab.

If anyone can help, that'd be wonderful. I hate having so many windows up.
reinstall?

What version of FF did you upgrade from?

[Lei Liko]

reinstall?

What version of FF did you upgrade from?

I was thinking I was going to have to do that.

Not sure what version number it was, but I know for sure that it was the most recent one before 2.0.

EDIT: Ok, I just reinstalled and it's still doing it. The first tab is the only one that loads.

Screw this P.O.S already...where can I go to DL an older version?

[Pua'i Mana'o]

:confused:

dude, it's just a browser.

[Lei Liko]

:confused:

dude, it's just a browser.

I know that. :rolleyes:

What's your point?

[Pua'i Mana'o]

What's your point?

How about asking that question of this thread. 'Cause folks like me don't get it.

[Lei Liko]

How about asking that question of this thread. 'Cause folks like me don't get it.

Personally speaking, I hate Internet Explorer with a passion -- MSIE's royally screwed me over many times, despite being supposedly protected from all that garbage out there.

When FF was introduced, a lot of people were convinced that this was the better browser to use. Till today I've never experienced problems with it. That's why I was quite disappointed that 2.0 didn't work, especially after all the hype that came with it.

Some people care a lot about which browsers they use. That's all.

[Pua'i Mana'o]

Mahalo Lei. FYI, my initial response wasn't to you specifically, but streaming out loud about this in general. I mean, cakes, and HI-based parties and hoooha! It is a browser. Safari has private browsing and Netscape works better on certain forums (ime) and IE is waaay old school, but eh. I dig FF, heck I am using it now, but it's just. a. browser.

s'all.

[adrian]

So I just dl-ed 2.0 and am already having trouble with my tabbed browsing. I can get the tabs to open, and the first tab to load, but when I click on the 2nd one and type in the URL, the page opens in the first tab.

If anyone can help, that'd be wonderful. I hate having so many windows up.
I got what you got on my desktop (my laptop is always the good computer anyway). I noticed that I didn't close the firefox browser in my regular user account after I switched to my admin account to install the browser, so I'll do uninstall and reboot and retry again.

[Lei Liko]

I got what you got on my desktop (my laptop is always the good computer anyway). I noticed that I didn't close the firefox browser in my regular user account after I switched to my admin account to install the browser, so I'll do uninstall and reboot and retry again.

I got rid of 2.0 and installed the version I had before. I went to the FF technical help site and saw that the tabbing bug was reported many times already today.

Hopefully they'll get that bug fixed...then I'll go ahead and re-install 2.0.

[adrian]

I got rid of 2.0 and installed the version I had before. I went to the FF technical help site and saw that the tabbing bug was reported many times already today.

Hopefully they'll get that bug fixed...then I'll go ahead and re-install 2.0.
I just reinstalled FF2 and it worked perfectly (then again, I also cleaned my registry and other things, but I doubt that'd make a difference.)

[Konaguy]

My best advise is start a new profile/clean install when you upgrade. In my
case I used my 1.5.07 profile with 2.0RC2. That eliminated a lot of headaches
when I ultimately installed the 2.0 Final Release. As I was able to weed out
extensions that did not work etc.

As for tabbed browsing, no problems here. But I use Tab Mix Plus (http://tmp.garyr.net/). It automatically opens
new tabs whenever I open a new bookmark. If you want it to work with
2.0 you need to d/l the dev-build version here (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi)

[Lei Liko]

Hey Aaron I got your email....thanks for the advice!

I'm gonna do a clean install in a bit and hopefully it'll work. Thanks again!

My best advise is start a new profile/clean install when you upgrade. In my
case I used my 1.5.07 profile with 2.0RC2. That eliminated a lot of headaches
when I ultimately installed the 2.0 Final Release. As I was able to weed out
extensions that did not work etc.

As for tabbed browsing, no problems here. But I use Tab Mix Plus (http://tmp.garyr.net/). It automatically opens
new tabs whenever I open a new bookmark. If you want it to work with
2.0 you need to d/l the dev-build version here (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi)

[Konaguy]

Hey Aaron I got your email....thanks for the advice!

I'm gonna do a clean install in a bit and hopefully it'll work. Thanks again!

I'd highly suggest you try that extension also. It may solve your tabbed
browsing issues too :)

[GeckoGeek]

My question is how fast is FF? I tried it back at 1.0. Slooooooow to start up. Ended up going back to IE.

[adrian]

My question is how fast is FF? I tried it back at 1.0. Slooooooow to start up. Ended up going back to IE.
Its kinda fast, but not as fast as Opera. :D

Opera > FF2 > IE7

[Marco]

Opera > FF2 > IE7
Personally, I think Firefox is way better than Opera. From my experience, there are more sites that are compatible to Firefox than Opera. For example, when I go to the scoreboard on espn.com and try to click on the boxscore on a game in progress, in Opera it doesn't work. It only works on games that are completed. No idea why.

The only reason I'm forced to use Opera on my computer at home is because for some reason, Firefox just quit working. When I click on it to open, the browser opens, then just shows a total white screen. And the CPU Usage immediately jacks up to 100%, and I can see the Memory Usage start increasing in the firefox process too.

Anyone else get that before in Firefox, and know how to deal with it? Damn, I miss using Firefox.

[Konaguy]

Personally, I think Firefox is way better than Opera. From my experience, there are more sites that are compatible to Firefox than Opera. For example, when I go to the scoreboard on espn.com and try to click on the boxscore on a game in progress, in Opera it doesn't work. It only works on games that are completed. No idea why.

The only reason I'm forced to use Opera on my computer at home is because for some reason, Firefox just quit working. When I click on it to open, the browser opens, then just shows a total white screen. And the CPU Usage immediately jacks up to 100%, and I can see the Memory Usage start increasing in the firefox process too.

Anyone else get that before in Firefox, and know how to deal with it? Damn, I miss using Firefox.

It could be a conflict with your video card. But to be sure I'd re-install with
a fresh profile and see if that helps.

[Eric]

I installed Firefox 2.0 on my Macbook Pro last night and immediately had problems. The damn thing hung for no apparent reason several times in a row. I may not have been drumming my fingers staring at the Windows XP hourglass any more, but I was getting pretty sick of the OS X spinning beachball. After several forced quits, I gave up, deleted the app, and went back to Firefox 1.5.0.7. Maybe I'll wait for version 2.1. :(

[Konaguy]

I installed Firefox 2.0 on my Macbook Pro last night and immediately had problems. The damn thing hung for no apparent reason several times in a row. I may not have been drumming my fingers staring at the Windows XP hourglass any more, but I was getting pretty sick of the OS X spinning beachball. After several forced quits, I gave up, deleted the app, and went back to Firefox 1.5.0.7. Maybe I'll wait for version 2.1. :(

Did you do a clean install with a new profile ?

[pzarquon]

Wow. I'm intrigued by the number of problems reported with 2.0, given how long this thing was in development and how stable it seemed in the last few release candidates. I've not made the jump yet, and may indeed wait. After all, the only intriguing part of the update for me was the tweaks made to how it handles feeds, and now I don't think I neccessarily need that stuff integrated in my browser anymore.

[Konaguy]

Wow. I'm intrigued by the number of problems reported with 2.0,


Well it is indeed strange. As I haven't had any problems with FF 2.0.(Windows XP Home, 1GB RAM)But I was proactive and upgraded when FF 2.0RC1 was released. I used my 1.5.07 profile, thus I was able to fix any extension/theme issues during the RC stage. So when 2.0 final rolled around, it was a seamless installation.

Thank goodness for Mr. Tech Local Install (http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/index.html). As I was able to make extensions that would not work 2.0 work.

That being said, my recommendation is do a clean install when installing FF 2.0. Yeah I know, I didn't follow my advise. But I had 24 extensions, I didn't want to re-install all of them.

[Eric]

Did you do a clean install with a new profile ?No, I installed over my existing setup. That's what most people do, and that's what I expect that the Mozilla guys should have anticipated would usually happen. I'm a little disappointed, but not turned off. Firefox is still my browser of choice.

[Konaguy]

No, I installed over my existing setup. That's what most people do, and that's what I expect that the Mozilla guys should have anticipated would usually happen. I'm a little disappointed, but not turned off. Firefox is still my browser of choice.

Not necessarily the case unfortunately.As far as I've read, FF 2.0 was
a major change over FF 1.x.Taking the proactive approach, I used my
1.5.07 profile with 2.0RC1. I was able to eliminate a lot of problems
before 2.0 final came out. Thus I was able to install 2.0 final over
my 2.0RC3 installation.

In short,if the upgrade is something manini like 1.5.0.6 to 1.5.0.7,
yes you can over write your existing installation. But not necessarily
if you upgrade from 1.5.07 to 2.0

[pzarquon]

The point is, overwriting an older installation is the default behavior for an upgrade, whether it's 2.0RC2 to 2.0, or 1.5.3 to 2.0. Indeed, the release notes make clear, Firefox 2.0 should replace older versions in situ:Please note that installing Firefox 2 will overwrite your existing installation of Firefox. You won't lose any of your bookmarks or browsing history, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.But I've read reports all over the web that doing so has caused all kinds of problems, and not just for people who've done weird things to their install.

I love Firefox, but this "gold" release is a mess. I hope 2.0.1 comes within a week and sorts these glitches out.

[Konaguy]

Yes theoretically in a perfect world you could install 2.0 over a 1.5.07 installation. But like in my case luckily I didn't do that. I would've had all the problems you guys are all having. But I got all my issues ironed out in 2.0RC1. Bear in mind I have 22 extensions too (I had 24, but I took out Spellbound since FF 2.0 has a built in spell checker).

[manoasurfer123]

I love firefox now too...and I'm comfortable using my current version. Until all the glitches get worked out...I'll stay with the old version.
Can everyone keep us updated when you feel that it's worthy of downloading and installing w/out all the headaches.

Mahalo...

[Glen Miyashiro]

Huh. My Firefox auto-update just ticked over from 1.5.0.7 to 1.5.0.8. Didn't they just release version 2.0 a little while ago? How come they're still releasing minor updates to the earlier version? :confused:

[Konaguy]

Huh. My Firefox auto-update just ticked over from 1.5.0.7 to 1.5.0.8. Didn't they just release version 2.0 a little while ago? How come they're still releasing minor updates to the earlier version? :confused:

As far as I understand this update was strictly for security and bug fixes.
Thunderbird also had a similar maintenance update.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Aha. Here's the word from Mozilla:

Firefox 1.5.0.x will be maintained with security and stability updates until April 24, 2007. All users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to Firefox 2. (link (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html))That makes sense.

[TuNnL]

I mean, cakes, and HI-based parties and hoooha! It is a browser. Safari has private browsing and Netscape works better on certain forums (ime) and IE is waaay old school, but eh. I dig FF, heck I am using it now, but it's just. a. browser.I’ve been a default IE user ever since Netscape joined with the evil empire (AOL). But I now realize the futility of my choice, since IE is such a crash-happy security risk. I hope this thread continues to blossom, so I can learn the ins and outs of Firefox before I convert to it. Unlike you, I’m all about to sticking to one browser for all my needs. If anything, it saves hard-drive space, and keeps you from having to keep track of which browser does what. ;)

[1stwahine]

I love Firefox. I got hooked through Adrian. I got Gmail through Ryan.

Once you try it ~ you don't want anything else!;)

Btw: Adrian, am I up-to-date on Firefox 2?:D

Auntie Lynn

[Eric]

I've got Firefox 2.0 running smoothly on OS X now!

I got some advice from a Mac forum and found that the problem apparently had to do with my old Firefox profile being messed up somehow, as Aaron had suggested earlier. I deleted my old profile, deleted Firefox 1.5.0.8, and then installed Firefox 2.0. And now it works great.

Of course, if you delete your profile then you delete all your bookmarks, too -- so back 'em up separately first. :D

ps. In case you don't know where to find your Firefox profile -- I didn't! -- it's in youraccountname/Library/Application Support/Firefox.

[tutusue]

I'm a Safari user but Firefox got the best of me last week. I bank with CPB and they upgraded their web site, shutting it down for at least 6 days. Finally it came time to log on to the new site and reset everything. It didn't work. I contacted CPB and they couldn't figure it out. Finally an employee asked me if I was using a Mac! Uh huh, I said. Oh, in that case, you have to use Firefox. That's the only Mac supported browser. Grrrrr! Finally I downloaded FF and still couldn't access my accounts. Eventually someone at the bank did it for me. Since FF didn't do what the bank said it would do I tried logging on via Safari. It worked! Bye-bye Firefox! I am sooooo resistent to change! :o

[Adri]

Have any of you come across any websites blocking Firefox? I don't use Firefox that often but haven't found any websites blocking it. I'm watching an online dicussion about Mozilla's ad blocking leading to sites blocking Firefox. Dunno that ad blocking is theft but I guess some people have strong feelings on it.

From the online discussion:

http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/

You've reached this page because the site you were trying to visit
now blocks the FireFox browser.

The Mozilla Foundation and its Commercial arm, the Mozilla
Corporation, has allowed and endorsed Ad Block Plus, a plug-in that
blocks advertisement on web sites and also prevents site owners from
blocking people using it. Software that blocks all advertisement is
an infringement of the rights of web site owners and developers.
Numerous web sites exist in order to provide quality content in
exchange for displaying ads. Accessing the content while blocking the
ads, therefore would be no less than stealing. Millions of hard
working people are being robbed of their time and effort by this type
of software. Many site owners therefore install scripts that prevent
people using ad blocking software from accessing their site. That is
their right as the site owner to insist that the use of their
resources accompanies the presence of the ads.

While blanket ad blocking in general is still theft, the real problem
is Ad Block Plus's unwillingness to allow individual site owners the
freedom to block people using their plug-in. Blocking FireFox is the
only alternative. ....

</huh>

[adrian]

Have any of you come across any websites blocking Firefox?
Nope, not so far. Actually, the closest thing I got was that a site didn't support FF.