Shame on Dalton Tanonaka [Archive]

LikaNui

December 15th, 2004, 08:22 AM

Within a letter titled "Abercrombie missed key intelligence vote" in today's (12/15/04) Honolulu Advertiser, former candidate Dalton Tanonaka wrote "I don't mean to come across as a sore loser, but in the first significant vote in Congress following his re-election, where was Neil Abercrombie?" He notes that the vote was held on December 7 and that Abercrombie was not there.
I found the answer in the paper just two pages later, where there was a large box on the Obituaries page noting that Abercrombie's mother passed away on December 4.
The answer to "Where was Neil?" becomes pretty darned obvious. If Tanonaka (and also the creator of the website he mentions, who appears to be a disgruntled former employee of Abercrombie) had bothered to simply pick up the phone and call Amercrombie's office, they would've known where he was! Shame on them.
Perhaps this glaring lack of extremely basic research skills is why Tanonaka lost the election.
My sympathies to Abercrombie on the loss of his mother.

pzarquon

December 15th, 2004, 09:27 AM

Tanonaka's "sore loser" letter to the Honolulu Advertiser is here (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Dec/15/op/op12pletters.html). Vera Abercrombie's obituary, indeed printed the same day, is here (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Dec/15/ln/ln49p.html). The mentioned site, NeilWatch (http://www.neilwatch.info/), is run by Ken Armstrong (http://www.kenarmstrong.net/), "a Christian with a political conscience" and "a non-partisan independent."

Abercrombie (and Case) did miss the Dec. 7 vote on the intelligence reform bill, but Dems in the House supported it (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll544.xml) more than 20-1 (Republicans were more split). It would've been a symbolic vote, not a pivotal one.

LikaNui

December 15th, 2004, 10:30 AM

Ken Armstrong's website, which Ryan lists above, claims that he "is a former weekly columnist for Pacific Business News, and an award-winning news magazine editor."
Dalton Tanonaka's website claims "Dalton Tanonaka is an international business leader and award-winning journalist."
[...]
"Prior to that, Dalton had a distinguished career in journalism. His most recent position was senior anchor at CNN International in Hong Kong, where he anchored "BizAsia," the global daily broadcast focusing on the region’s important business stories and leaders, and "TalkAsia," a weekly hour of conversation with the world’s most influential people."
"His other Asia experience includes covering the handover of Hong Kong to China for CNBC, and anchoring "Japan Business Today" from the studios of NHK in Tokyo. He was named "Best News Anchor" at the Asian Television Awards in Singapore in 1998."
So... both of these guys claim to be award-winning journalists, but they didn't have the sense to make a single phone call to the most obvious source for the answer to their attempted smear?!? Puhleeeeeze!
:eek:
Mind you, folks, I'm not leaning one way or another about Abercrombie or his politics. What I am saying is that Tanonaka and Armstrong using his mother's death as part of their political agenda is beyond shameful.
:mad:
Move over, Malia Zimmerman... you've got company on the "lack of credibility" couch.

1stwahine

December 15th, 2004, 09:32 PM

:o I'm a newbie at Hawaii Threads. However, when I saw the topic about this thread, I just couldn't resist putting my two cents in. I am the Military mother that was featured on Dalton Tanonaka's television commercial for his bid to Congress. I don't like the fact that Congressman Abrocrombie voted against supporting our men and women of our our Armed Forces in their fight against TERRORISM nor how he and fourteen others drafted a resolution for the DRAFT and that he did a switch in opposing what he helped create. It showed me that he is not a man of his word nor convictions. That is why I supported Mr. Tanonaka. The Election is over and all must be put aside to support whoever was elected into office. It's the American Way! No huhu or bad mouthing. My condolences to Congressman Abrocrombie and family. I feel shame knowing what Dalton did without trying to find out the reason as to why. Afterall, as a top journalist and award winning reporter, he is supposed to know better before opening his mouth! AUWE! Lucky no moa the commercial anymore...SHAME DALTON,REAL SHAME!

1stwahine

1stwahine

December 18th, 2004, 06:23 PM

UPDATE: :o Uh, as I said earlier, I'm a newbie here. Had no idea that lots of people actually read the threads. nah, of course they do. Anyways, I recieved an email from Dalton this morning and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt, afterall I did support him for his bid for Congress and I will support him again. Had he known that Abrocrombie's mother had passed on he would have not have sent his letter. He said, there were attempts to contact Abrocrombie at his office on the day the announcement was made with no answer given. In yesterday's Advertiser it also indicated that Abrocrombie had chosen to come back to Hawaii long in advance on his schedule due to some appointments and other things he had to take care in Hawaii that would help him with his agenda for the next session which begins next month instead of staying in Washington and waiting for a vote that may or might not occur. So, Mr. Dalton Tanonaka, my apologies to you. Now let's get on with the next thread please!

1stwahine

LikaNui

December 20th, 2004, 01:09 PM

1stwahine wrote:
>> I recieved an email from Dalton this morning <<

Try asking him why he doesn't write a letter to the Advertiser about this, instead of leaving it to his pitbull Ken Armstrong to defend him. Hmmmm?

>> Had he known that Abrocrombie's mother had passed on he would have not have sent his letter. <<

Balderdash. Pfffffbt.
Did you see Armstrong's letter in today's Advertiser? He really tries to spin this whole thing, but he fails miserably.
I have to say to him that “Methinks thou doth protest too much.”
His letter is entitled “Defense of Abercrombie missed several key points”. The letter Armoistrong is replying to (dated 12/16/04) was not a defense of Abercrombie, it was about Dalton Tanonaka. Politics had nothing whatsoever to do with the 12/16 letter; respect and etiquette were the points.
Armstrong claims that Abercrombie missed “one of the most critical floor votes in recent congressional history.” Well, I’m not sure how critical it was, since it was a vote on agreeing to a conference report. Apparently Abercrombie’s vote would’ve been more symbolic than pivotal, as Ryan pointed out. The voting record, as seen at http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll544.xml, shows that the final tally was 336 in favor and 75 against. Abercrombie’s vote wouldn’t have swayed things either way. Also, there were 21 other congresspersons who didn’t vote, including 8 Republicans and 13 other Democrats (including Hawaii’s Ed Case). One wonders why Tanonaka and Armstrong chose to attack only Abercrombie.
And apparently it was uncertain right up to the last minute whether the vote would even take place.
Armstrong also claims Tanonaka couldn’t have known about the death of Abercrombie’s mother because it wasn’t published until the same day as Tanonaka’s letter (12/15/04). But the vote was held December 7. Tanonaka and Armstrong both claim to be award-winning journalists, yet they didn’t take advantage of having 8 full days to call Abercrombie’s office where they would’ve found the answer long before writing his letter? Sorry, Mr. Armstrong, but the math is simple.
Armstrong also wrote that the vote took place three days after Vera Abercrombie’s death and therefore Neil should’ve been back for the vote. Apparently Armstrong and Tanonaka feel that Neil should’ve skipped any funeral planning and funeral attendance, plus other family obligations, and raced back to place a vote that would’ve made no difference on the outcome.
How silly. It’s that kind of thinking that upset me in the first place, and it has nothing at all to do with politics.
Lastly, Armstrong seems to not have noticed that there have been letters every single day since Tanonaka letter of 12/15/04, all of them chastising Tanonaka for his callousness. I wonder why Armstrong didn’t address those letters, and I also wonder why Tanonaka himself hasn’t replied and instead leaves it to a spinmeister like Armstrong.
Oh well, politics as usual.
:mad:

>> Now let's get on with the next thread please! <<

I think that decision is up to the moderator.
:D

1stwahine

December 20th, 2004, 01:30 PM

Lastly, Armstrong seems to not have noticed that there have been letters every single day since Tanonaka letter of 12/15/04, all of them chastising Tanonaka for his callousness. I wonder why Armstrong didn’t address those letters, and I also wonder why Tanonaka himself hasn’t replied and instead leaves it to a spinmeister like Armstrong.
Oh well, politics as usual.
:D Hope you ventilated, and yes, it's up to the moderator. I wish you Happy Holidays and a Safe New year. Gosh, I thought only I had bitterness and huhu. Life is to short my dear to waste on trivial things. Now, I live and enjoy each day as my last for it is so true. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, GOD BLESS AMERICA!

zztype

December 20th, 2004, 01:35 PM

He notes that the vote was held on December 7 and that Abercrombie was not there.

Chee. I wonder why Hawaii's congressionals weren't in Washington, D.C., on December 7? Too bad they missed the vote.

I wonder where New York's congressionals all were on September 11?

Blaine

LikaNui

December 20th, 2004, 01:45 PM

Chee. I wonder why Hawaii's congressionals weren't in Washington, D.C., on December 7? Too bad they missed the vote.

I wonder where New York's congressionals all were on September 11?

Aaaaaah, a most excellent point, Blaine!

scrivener

December 20th, 2004, 03:29 PM

This thing sickens me, and not because of Tanonaka's letter. In the political game, a letter like this is just one move--a within-the-bounds move. As a political opponent, Tanonaka's playing within the usual boundaries when he writes a letter like this. When the circumstances were published, the game is expected to be put on hold. "Whoa," he should have said. "Safe word! Safe word!" Death in the family moves stuff from professional to personal, and that's not how the game is played.

He should have said he was an idiot. He should have explained that his careful watch on Abercrombie's performance is in the public's best interest and that he plans to be on him like this for the next two years in hopes of another shot at representing Hawaii in the 2006 elections. Then he should have said that this was out of line, that he was deeply sorry for Abercrombie's loss and for his own quick-to-judge display. It's a reasonable mistake and people in Hawaii are forgiving (ask Mufi) but yeah, you gotta admit you screwed up.

I didn't vote for Abercrombie or Tanonaka, but I was encouraged to see a decently contested race for such an important office--Democrats get free passes far too often in this state, and that's not good for the system, no matter what your political leaning--and am sorry to see that Tanonaka doesn't know better than to put his hackles up and fight rather than withdraw and say sorry.

Kilinahe

December 20th, 2004, 04:21 PM

What Scrivener said. Dalton can play the game and still act like a human being.

craigwatanabe

January 10th, 2005, 01:40 AM

Bottom line is that Dalton Tanonaka put his foot in his mouth and kicked Neil Abercrombie when he was down. Not a good political move.

I'm absolutely sure in my mind that it wasn't an intentional kick but it still hurt and for that I think Dalton needs to publically apologize to everyone for his ill-timed remark.

I also must believe that the timing and placement of both obit and editorial had some political motivation from the paper that printed it. And for that I say SHAME on the publication that did it.

I gotta admit though, I would have loved to see the look on Dalton's face when he realized he just single-handedly ravaged his own political career. That would have been priceless in my book. Oh well, such is the life of a politician.

1stwahine

January 10th, 2005, 04:27 AM

:p I WILL SUPPORT MR.DALTON TANONAKA COME HIGH OR LOW WATERS! HE IS A GOOD MAN AND HAS ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS FOR THE PEOPLE! He who is without sin, cast the first stone............ :rolleyes: GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, GOD BLESS AMERICA!

mel

January 10th, 2005, 05:46 AM

GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Amen! :) ~ ~ ~ ~

pzarquon

January 10th, 2005, 05:53 AM

I gotta admit though, I would have loved to see the look on Dalton's face when he realized he just single-handedly ravaged his own political career. That would have been priceless in my book. Oh well, such is the life of a politician.Indeed. Seems a politician is willing to say anything, as long as it isn't, "I erred, and I apologize." Despite the fact that a one or two sentence mea culpa would have done wonders for Tanonaka's battered image, compared to the even deeper hole created by a politician-esque, four-paragraph mess of excuses and rationalization.

I mean, c'mon... saying "I didn't know" doesn't suddenly make "I'm sorry" impossible to say. In fact, I think the two phrases can go quite well together.
I WILL SUPPORT MR.DALTON TANONAKA COME HIGH OR LOW WATERS!Just not at 10:32 p.m. on December 15th, 2004, right, Lynn? :D

1stwahine

January 10th, 2005, 06:01 AM

Just not at 10:32 p.m. on December 15th, 2004, right, Lynn? :D

Good Morning PZARQUON! UHHHHHHH, gosh you're absolutely right. However, I apologized to the fact upon getting Dalton's email and his side of the STORY! WAT'S UP PEOPLE? Have a beautiful week!

pzarquon

January 10th, 2005, 06:03 AM

I know, Lynn, just pokin' fun. Besides, you're an excellent example of what I'm talking about. Jumping to conclusions may be human, but realizing so and apologizing (in the very next post, even) is divine.

Or something like that.

scrivener

January 10th, 2005, 08:48 AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say Tanonaka "ravaged" his political career--most people will see this as simply boneheaded, not sinister. This whole things makes Tanonaka look bad, but not bad enough for him not to consider running again in two years. I've said it before in this space: Tanonaka has been the strongest Republican challenger to Abercrombie's seat in a long, long time, and I welcome the discourse that might come from a well-contested race between two worthy opponents.

No elected official should ever feel that his seat is his for as long as he wants it. I'm an Abercrombie supporter ('though not strong enough a supporter to actually vote for the guy, I'll admit), and would likely never vote for Tanonaka, but I do want to hear what they have to say, and I do want the constituency to encourage these guys to come out strong on whatever sides of the fence their on. Tanonaka can do a lot in these next two years to improve his chances in 2006 (and I do hope he tries again in 2006), but so far he's doing the opposite.

Come on, Dalton. I know your people are reading this. Howzabout piping in here?

craigwatanabe

January 10th, 2005, 04:04 PM

I'm one to believe that your actions will reflect you abilities (especially when your actions will affect the lives of others). As a human being I think Dalton is as susceptible to mistakes as anyone else and should be forgiven for that. But if his shortsightness caused grief for someone else, can you imagine how his shoot from the hip actions can affect our country if he acted the way he did with global problems?

As for his political aspirations, I do feel his remarks will affect him in later years. I also feel that if Hillary Clinton can forgive Bill for basically cheating on her, I think Neil can forgive Dalton for saying something that shouldn't have been said at all. We all make mistakes but we sometimes have to bear the consequences because not all of us are willing to forgive. And that's too bad for Dalton. You know sometimes a small slip of the tongue can have lasting impressions and for a politician that can be critical. I don't think Dalton has the charisma that Bill Clinton had to weather this one.

I wish Dalton well and hope he does come out of this smelling like roses like Bill did.

I'd still like to have been there to see his face though, had to have been worth a thousand words! :D

pzarquon

January 12th, 2005, 06:00 AM

Though this goes back to an older thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=2641) on the Abercrombie/Tanonaka race, I figure this fresher discussion is a better place to note an update to the campaign finance allegations that surfaced last year.

Tanonaka inquiry a federal case now (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Jan/12/ln/ln01p.html)
Derrick DePledge, Honolulu Advertiser, Wednesday, January 12, 2005
The investigation was triggered by a complaint from Tanonaka's former campaign manager, who told the state Campaign Spending Commission that Tanonaka intentionally violated state law by disguising and not reporting loans to his unsuccessful campaign. The commission voted in October to refer the complaint to the city prosecutor's office, but three sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is in progress, said that the matter has since been turned over to federal investigators.

LikaNui

January 12th, 2005, 07:07 AM

Yes indeedy!
The article also notes
"The federal probe is examining the sources of Tanonaka's loans and whether he improperly moved loans from others through his bank to his campaign. Investigators are also looking into loans Tanonaka made to his failed 2004 campaign for U.S. Congress against U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawai'i."
and
"Tanonaka has not fully detailed all of the sources for his campaign loans and he and his attorney have given conflicting explanations for two loans in 2002 that have been publicly documented through the civil lawsuit."
Perhaps all of this is why he never responded to the newspapers regarding his gaffe about Abercrombie. Funny, though, that Tanonaka has time to send a private e-mail to one of the readers here, but not enough time to go public.
Hmmmmm...
:rolleyes:

1stwahine

January 12th, 2005, 08:17 AM

Yes indeedy!
Funny, though, that Tanonaka has time to send a private e-mail to one of the readers here, but not enough time to go public.
Hmmmmm...
:rolleyes:
Hmmmmm too. Anytime I get to be the one referring to in anything, it involves me! I am Aunty Lynn,1st wahine, Bitch and mom of three soldiers! I live MWH, no bada me! nah, joke. When the accusations came out, Dalton didn't miss a beat, he held a television conference telling his side of the story and asked for the investigations to begin prior to the election. Rumors in anything is worse than the enemy! I'm certain that with time and when the truth comes out, Dalton will be found innocent. In America, one who is accused, is innocent until proven guilty! I will stand by Dalton as I firmly believe he is a victim of a Smear. Like you, I await the results. As far as Dalton sending me a private emails...you jealous?hahahahahaha

LikaNui

January 12th, 2005, 09:23 AM

As far as Dalton sending me a private emails...you jealous?hahahahahaha

Not the teeniest tiniest little bit. Several of us continue to wonder why he didn't respond publicly about his Abercrombie gaffe. He had the time to reply to you personally but not to address the public? That's just... odd.

1stwahine

January 12th, 2005, 03:10 PM

Not the teeniest tiniest little bit. Several of us continue to wonder why he didn't respond publicly about his Abercrombie gaffe. He had the time to reply to you personally but not to address the public? That's just... odd.

:rolleyes: As I stated earlier, he held a new's conference to defend himself, asked the authorities to open and investigate the accusations asap...which wasn't done. He doesn't need to explain himself in a Public Forum anymore or any other place for that matter. The FBI and Courts whichever one will justify the rumors for what they are, FALSE! As far as replying to me personally...that's just odd? I humbly admit I am, 100% ODD!

;) Sorry Dalton, I just had to sly that one in!hehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheheh

Oh! GOD BLESS EVERYONE,GOD BLESS AMERICA. In the name of Jesus I pray.

Miulang

January 12th, 2005, 03:13 PM

1stwahine

January 12th, 2005, 03:21 PM

That social gaffe that Tanonaka made over Abercrombie's mother's death is one thing. Now he's undergoing investigation by the feds for disguising and hiding loans made to his unsuccessful campaign.

His former campaign manager blew the whistle on him, although Tanonaka claims the allegations are false and just a way for the ex-campaign manager to stir up problems (they are in civil litigation now over alleged unpaid bills).

The lack of an apology to Abercrombie pales in comparison to the doodoo he'll be in if he's found guilty of campaign fraud. If he is found guilty, I don't think he can get away with pleading ignorance over this one.

Miulang

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Jan/12/ln/ln01p.html

DODO yeah, if found guilty. I stand by Dalton Tanonaka and if they find him GUILTY...then let the shit fly on me too! I believe in my heart that he is innocent. As far as his mistake against Abrocombie, he is human and we all tend to make mistakes. However, I believe an apology was warrented for the mistake. Plainly put, Make Ass. Better to be left without saying or causing anymore kakas as it is already.

LikaNui

January 12th, 2005, 03:27 PM

:rolleyes: As I stated earlier, he held a new's conference to defend himself, asked the authorities to open and investigate the accusations asap...which wasn't done. He doesn't need to explain himself in a Public Forum anymore or any other place for that matter.

Okay, what I'd like to ask you to do is to please re-read my earlier posts, k? I thought I made it really clear several times that I was referring to the Abercrombie gaffe, not to the other charges. I'm very well aware that Dalton held a news conference on the charges, but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about why he never said anything publicly... about... the... Abercrombie... gaffe.
See?
:confused:

1stwahine

January 12th, 2005, 03:43 PM

Perhaps all of this is why he never responded to the newspapers regarding his gaffe about Abercrombie. Funny, though, that Tanonaka has time to send a private e-mail to one of the readers here, but not enough time to go public. Hmmmmm... :rolleyes:

I know this thread is about SHAME ON TANONAKA regarding ABROCROMBIE...I don't want to be stupid or anything but the above is what you submitted, isn't it? And wasn't I the reader you was referring too? Thank you.

pzarquon

January 12th, 2005, 03:56 PM

I've obviously muddled things by adding the campaign finance investigation into this thread about missing Abercrombie's personal reasons for missing a vote. Lynn, it seems to me Lika was just pointing out that your "he called a press conference!" responses (posts 22 (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showpost.php?p=18205&postcount=22) and especially 24 (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showpost.php?p=18205&postcount=24) above) were not related to his (and this thread's) original point: he didn't call a press conference to apologize to Abercrombie.

Believe it or not, it sounds to me like you both agree he should have.

Lynn, let me know if I've misread your posts. On the two issues, your position is as follows:

Tanonaka's Abercrombie gaffe: "I believe an apology was warrented for the mistake. Plainly put, Make Ass. Better to be left without saying or causing anymore kakas as it is already."
Tanonaka's campaign finance investigation: "I'm certain that with time and when the truth comes out, Dalton will be found innocent... I will stand by Dalton as I firmly believe he is a victim of a Smear."
Obviously, the latter is more serious, and you (and others) are wise to reserve judgement. But on the former and original topic, I don't think anyone here has said that Tanonaka's decision to remain silent (or to make excuses) after unfairly attacking Abercrombie was a smart one. Okay? We're all on the same page.

So, that's where Lika's earlier comment comes in: Why did Tanonaka take the time to personally offer an explanation to someone here based on what was posted, without making an official statement or public mea culpa (be it here, or via any other public means)?

Apart from what you received directly, Lynn - and it could've been anyone, this isn't about you - the Tanonaka camp has made no outright admission of error. In the eyes of the public, they left things hanging unpleasantly on the Abercrombie attack. It's odd that they'd be willing to say something behind the scenes, when it would be a good thing to say to everyone.

1stwahine

January 12th, 2005, 04:09 PM

Apart from what you received directly, Lynn - and it could've been anyone, this isn't about you - the Tanonaka camp has made no outright admission of error. In the eyes of the public, they left things hanging unpleasantly on the Abercrombie attack.

PZARQUON, I apologize. Only you know what has been happening as far as me seeing or interpreting things. I guess I got a bit angry when I saw the post, "of a reader here receiving a personal email"...that is only me! I got on the offensive and wasted alot of energy. Still, with all due respect, I will support Dalton Tanonaka! I apologize if I misunderstood anyone. K...nuff?

kimo55

January 12th, 2005, 07:43 PM

.....and if they find him GUILTY...then let the **** fly on me too!

Ixnay on the itshay, and the other rofanitypay, too.
There are ladies and children present.

LikaNui

January 13th, 2005, 07:54 AM

I don't think anyone here has said that Tanonaka's decision to remain silent (or to make excuses) after unfairly attacking Abercrombie was a smart one. Okay? We're all on the same page.
So, that's where Lika's earlier comment comes in: Why did Tanonaka take the time to personally offer an explanation to someone here based on what was posted, without making an official statement or public mea culpa (be it here, or via any other public means)?
Apart from what you received directly, Lynn - and it could've been anyone, this isn't about you - the Tanonaka camp has made no outright admission of error. In the eyes of the public, they left things hanging unpleasantly on the Abercrombie attack. It's odd that they'd be willing to say something behind the scenes, when it would be a good thing to say to everyone.

Mahalo plenny for the clear, correct and understandable (hopefully) explanation, Ryan!
Well done. Very well done.
:)

LikaNui

January 13th, 2005, 08:01 AM

I guess I got a bit angry when I saw the post, "of a reader here receiving a personal email"...that is only me! I got on the offensive and wasted alot of energy. [...] I apologize if I misunderstood anyone.

Apology accepted, Lynn. No problem.
The reason I wrote the words "a reader here" instead of putting your name in the post is that it's always wiser on the internet to keep discussions about the issues and not about the individual posters. That usually stops flame wars from developing.
:)

lurkah

July 21st, 2005, 11:54 AM

Tanonaka pleads guilty to three felonies, released on bond (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Jul/21/br/br03p.html)

"The charges carry prison terms of up to 65 years."

LikaNui

July 21st, 2005, 12:53 PM

When the accusations came out, Dalton didn't miss a beat, he held a television conference telling his side of the story and asked for the investigations to begin prior to the election.
I'm certain that with time and when the truth comes out, Dalton will be found innocent.
I firmly believe he is a victim of a Smear.
That was from January 12... message #22 in this thread.
After his Guilty plea today, I went back and read through this entire thread from the beginning and found some quotes I think folks may wish they could take back.
(And Aunty Lynn, please don't take this personally! You couldn't have known back then that Dalton was guilty.)

LikaNui

July 21st, 2005, 12:56 PM

Now he's undergoing investigation by the feds for disguising and hiding loans made to his unsuccessful campaign.
His former campaign manager blew the whistle on him, although Tanonaka claims the allegations are false and just a way for the ex-campaign manager to stir up problems (they are in civil litigation now over alleged unpaid bills).
The lack of an apology to Abercrombie pales in comparison to the doodoo he'll be in if he's found guilty of campaign fraud. If he is found guilty, I don't think he can get away with pleading ignorance over this one.

Also from January 12, message #25.
Guess he is "in the doodoo" now!
:p

Miulang

July 21st, 2005, 12:59 PM

What an ignoble end to a political career. Of course, there might still be hope for a political career for him. After all, the Mayor of DC (Marion Berry) was re-elected Mayor after he got out of jail for illegal drug possession, which is also a felony.

And then there was that hapless temporary Mayor of San Diego (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/19/AR2005071900155.html), who this week was named Mayor because the old Mayor was was forced to resign. He only got to be Mayor for a day before he was forced to resign too because of illegal activities.

Miulang

1stwahine

July 21st, 2005, 01:08 PM

Let the SHIT fly on me too! Hahahaha! In all seriousness, it is unfortunate in what he has done...I still belive he is a good man. :o Nobody is free from skeletons in their closets. Let he/she without sin, cast the first stone. :rolleyes:

and Life goes on! CRAP! :D

I just wanted you all to know that I have learned that hawaiithreads.com is a place where we all come to share our ideas and comments. I have come a long way from the time, I first entered as a member here. There is absolutely no way I would take offense...except if it was against my children, my MAMA
and Antonio.

Auntie Lynn

scrivener

July 21st, 2005, 01:54 PM

I just went back and read the entire thread again, too. And there's definitely something I wish I'd never written:
...and I do want the constituency to encourage these guys to come out strong on whatever sides of the fence their on.
Ugh. Bad teacher! Bad!

jdub

July 21st, 2005, 10:40 PM

tanonaka is a crook and he admitted it in court with his plea...despite the fact that his slick schuyster green has been trying to salvage a shred of tanonaka's dignity, the fact remains: he bloody cheated the electoral process...an essentially victimless crime on the face of it, but tell that to rene mansho and andy mirikitani...

tanonaka will likely walk with a hefty fine and probation, but faces 66 years in the joint...if there's a pool going, i'm in at a year and a half of time and a sweet consulting gig upon release...

LikaNui

July 22nd, 2005, 09:01 AM

Back at the beginning of this thread there was much mention of Tanonaka's mouthpiece, Ken Armstrong of Oregon, and there were links to Armstrong's two websites. I just checked both of them out, and gosh... no mention of the guilty plea.
As expected.

Glen Miyashiro

October 14th, 2005, 12:04 PM

Ian Lind (http://www.ilind.net/2005/october/oct09-15.html) reports that Dalton is asking his supporters to help him influence the court as to whether or not he gets jail time for his punishment.

Rickyrab

October 14th, 2005, 03:49 PM

Amen! :) ~ ~ ~ ~
Amen! :)

Oh... ~~~~ looks like a Wikipedia signature to me... lolz....

mel

November 3rd, 2005, 03:05 PM

Former Candidate, TV Anchorman Sentenced to Prison (http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/5245879/detail.html)

Judge Orders Tanonaka To Spend 3 Months In Prison, 3 Months At Home

POSTED: 3:36 pm HST November 3, 2005

HONOLULU -- A federal judge Thursday sentenced former political candidate and former television news anchorman Dalton Tanonaka to prison.

Tanonaka secretly funneled thousands of dollars into his campaigns, prosecutors said. However, his lawyer denied he was trying to hide anything.

Read the rest at KITV 4's website. I am sure more will be posted on this.

Dalton's a lucky guy to only get 3 months jail time for this crime. And yes, he is guilty as I laugh at a few of my friends who actively supported him on the last campaign.

alohabear

November 4th, 2005, 04:55 AM

Former Candidate, TV Anchorman Sentenced to Prison (http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/5245879/detail.html)

Read the rest at KITV 4's website. I am sure more will be posted on this.

Dalton's a lucky guy to only get 3 months jail time for this crime. And yes, he is guilty as I laugh at a few of my friends who actively supported him on the last campaign.
Maybe someone will offer him a TV deal ala Martha Stewart, when he gets out! :D OC16 are you listening? :rolleyes:

luvbuni420

November 8th, 2005, 11:26 AM

Dalton Tanonaka is a great man with a strong spirit.
He is in touch with the low mucs and the high mucs.
Lets really look at this and how silly it is to condem a
desent guy for being human.

Long Live D.T

Leo Lakio

November 8th, 2005, 11:42 AM

He is in touch with the low mucs and the high mucs.
What's a "muc"? :confused:

lurkah

November 8th, 2005, 12:17 PM

What's a "muc"? :confused:
Hmmm. Let's see if we can figure this out. The word muc could be mucous-related, which could then lead us to the idea of snot or having a snotty attitude, which could then lead to Dalton being in touch with the more snotty and the less snotty (high and low) people of society...which would just about cover everybody, wouldn't you think? ;) In other words, when you come right down to it, Dalton's just a regular local guy who has the smarts to be able to mingle and get along with anybody. After all, Kalani grad right? :D

I think Dalton will be okay. Three months is not very long to be out of the public eye, and I'm thinking he'll end up landing on his feet a more humble and better man for the whole experience.