Battlestar Galactica

[helen]

Has anyone seen the Battlestar Galactica (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/) series on the SciFi channel? It plays on Friday night. So far 5 episodes have been aired and they will replay on Tuesday night.

[kamapuaa]

Has anyone seen the Battlestar Galactica (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/) series on the SciFi channel? It plays on Friday night. So far 5 episodes have been aired and they will replay on Tuesday night.
Best scifi show on tv, arguably one of the best ever. :D

[pzarquon]

Best scifi show on tv, arguably one of the best ever.I've heard that. I should try and catch an episode or two.

There's a lot of crossover fandom, I think, between Battlestar Galactica and the shortlived Firefly (soon to be a movie). But just because Firefly didn't floor me, I should probably give Battlestar Galactica a chance.

It's out as a DVD set already, right?

[mel]

I watch Battlestar Galactica on sci-fi. Have seen the original mini-series that preceded these new episodes in 2003, and I think I have caught all 5 of the episodes so far. The premise of the show is okay and parallels that of the original series that aired in the 1980s. Hopefully it won't end up being too hokey like that one.

That said, this is the only current space opera show that I am enjoying but nowhere is this series near to my all time favorite, Babylon 5. I am currently watching that entire series all over again for the 3rd time episode by episode off my 5 box DVD set. To me, B5 is my standard for great TV sci-fi space opera.

Of course I am sure others will disagree. That's all I'll say on this.

[helen]

It's out as a DVD set already, right?

Not for the series currently being aired, at this time at least. The miniseries that was aired in December of 2003 is available as a DVD. For the life of me I can't remember if it is available here on Oahu.

I do remember seeing the 1979 version on DVD at Wal-Mart a week or two ago.

[Haken]

Yup. Best sci-fi series this season. Most of the episodes have already been aired in the UK off of SkyOne and are availble on BitTorrent. I think there's about a six episode lag here in the U.S..

And, guess what, it was announced yesterday that Sci-Fi has renewed the series for next season.

[helen]

The premise of the show is okay and parallels that of the original series that aired in the 1980s. Hopefully it won't end up being too hokey like that one.

So far it doesn't seem to be that hokey, but there are times when it seems that the characters tend to be slightly dense. This is mostly those characters around Baltar, most of them haven't said much about his talking to himself at times.

Last night's episode (2/18/05) where Lt. Gaeta, Baltar and Number Six using the restroom aboard the Galactica was kind of groundbreaking for TV Sci-Fi where we actually got to see a toilet aboard a spaceship, never mind the fact that no one actually flushed it or one didn't see pants around the ankles.

[helen]

After watching episode #5 two weeks ago a thought came to me about the Cylons, other than watching the series and checking out the web site (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/) which doesn't offer any extra clues about the Cylons, I got this view of them. Putting it in a spoiler space for just in case:

It seems that the Cylons are a biological/mechincal lifeforms. It was stated that the humans in this series created them but it was not stated as to why they were created. I can only assume if it did get stated, it would be some reason that might be shocking or unethical by our standards.

[helen]

Season finale aired tonight (4/1/05) on the Sci-Fi Channel.

One thing I can't figure out.

Why Galactica's Boomer rejected the notion that she was a Cylon, attempted suicide, blow up the Cylon base star and then shoot Adama.

[helen]

The second season has been airing since July 15 on the Sci-Fi channel.

[pinakboy]

im not sure but i may have passed by da dvds at Blockbuster fo dis show. i always missed da beginning episodes! :( or i tink i jus saw it.... hmmmm :confused:

[helen]

It might be from the 2003 mini-series, which was about 4 hours long. I haven't heard anything about the DVD from the 1st season.

[mel]

Battlestar Galactica Season 1 (http://tinyurl.com/bpmdr) is due for release on September 20, according to Amazon.com. They're taking advance orders for $41.99.

[helen]

Is anyone watching this series?

[mel]

yes, I am. Where did Starbuck get that ship? Can't remember if it is the one she came on. I don't think so. How come they trust Ms. what's her name's a Cylon?

[helen]

I think Boomer got the ship and it wasn't the same one that Starbuck came to Caprica with.

I suspect Boomer is still able to blend in with the other Cylons and not raise suspions that she is helping the humans instead.

[helen]

Found out from the Sci-Fi web site that the first 5 episodes of season 2 will be re-aired on Tuesday August 16 on the Sci-Fi channel starting at 4pm (HST, consult your local TV guide for the times for places that is not serviced by Oceanic Cable on Oahu).

[helen]

Picked up the miniseries DVD today. I checked out the deleted scenes section and came up with this minor bit.

One of the deleted scenes stated that after the decommision of the Galactica it was planned to be a museum (which was known already) to run under the educational ministry (new information), which is why Roslin was there to begin with.

[helen]

The summer finale is on for this Friday (9/23) and will feature another Battlestar that survived the attack.

[NoCal Boy]

The teaser for this week's episode shows that it'll be a familiar storyline for fans of the original BG series. It deals with the Galactica's reunion with the long-lost Battlestar Pegasus and its commander Cain. Cain was played in the original series by Lloyd Bridges - the update features Michelle Forbes (Ensign Ro from Star Trek - TNG) in the role.

I think this is the last episode until early next year, so I suspect it'll be a cliffhanger.

OK, I tipped my hand. Yes, I am a Geek. ;)

[helen]

The Sci-Fi channel web site for Battlestar Galactica (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/updates/) warns that the epsiode is going to run an extra 2 minutes so it suggest if you are planning to tape the epsiode to allow an extra 5 minutes at the end of the run.

Also picked up the Season 1 DVD today at Wal-Mart for $45. I tried Sam's Club and the person unpacking the DVD said they didn't get it and suggested to try Wal-Mart.

[mel]

Amazon.com is currently selling Battlestar Galactica Season 1 (http://tinyurl.com/coasc) DVD set for $41.99. I think I'll place my order there.

I wish I did not read the latest posts in this thread as they had some slight spoilers. :( I never watched many episodes from the original series that ran in the 1980s, so I would have never known about another Battlestar. :confused:

[NoCal Boy]

Ah, sorry about that Mel. Didn't think of it as a spoiler as it was just from this week's teaser, but now that I think about it my comments may have gave away some more plot if you weren't familiar with the original series. New guy already makes trouble...

BTW - the DVD set that just got released this week is different from the 4-disc set that Best Buy released exclusively a few months back. I believe the new one includes the pilot miniseries as well as commentary tracks on most episodes, which were missing from the BB set earlier.

[helen]

Don't worry about it. This entire thread was talking about Battlestar Galactica and you didn't reveal anything new or stuff that hasn't been shown on the air yet.

[helen]

Last night episode (2/10) sort of hints that Apollo and Dualla have some sort of relationship. Strong enough for her to tell Apollo about Billy trying to propose marriage to her.

[pzarquon]

I've been catching this show in five minute bites (via Tivo) whenever I have a free moment. (I've started at Season 2, Episode 11, "Resurrection Ship Part 1." They're up to Episode 16 now.) Seems interesting enough, but I'm still not sure if I want to sign on.

For those who want a way to catch up with what's going on, the iTunes Music Store is giving away free an episode of "Sci-Fi Insider" (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=110899839) which is basically a Season 1 clip show. You know, one of those specials where they try to help new viewers catch up.

[zff]

Hi Helen, I just found this thread...

I'm also a HUGE fan of this show. I think it's easily the best sci-fi ever seen on TV (and this is coming from a big Star Trek fan) and one of the best series of any genre ever made.

I was starting to think season 2 (or is it season 3?) was starting to slow down, but this last episode, "Downloaded", was just amazing -- and the upcoming 2-part season finale looks like it's going to be even better.

I can't believe there aren't more fans here.

[helen]

It's still in Season 2 which will be ending some time in mid-March. But the episode "Download" gives us the slice of life for the Cylons.

[mel]

The promo for this week's episode indicates that this is Part 1 of a 2 part season finale.... so I would have to safely assume Season 2 will wrap by next Friday. Then we'll either be subjected to a lot of re-runs or no show at all until probably August or so when and if SciFi picks the show up for a 3rd season.

[helen]

SciFi would normally start their season in June not August.

[zff]

SciFi would normally start their season in June not August.
So does that mean BSG season 3 will start this June? I certainly hope so, if the cliffhanger is going to be anything like the end of season 1 cliffhanger. After watching the first part of the season finale, it looks like it could be.

[helen]

My mistake, for 2005 they started off in July, not June. I suppose we would know a better date after the March 10 airing of Battlestar Galactica.

[helen]

The 90 minute season 2 finale just finished airing. During the ending credits it said that it will return in October.

For the epsiode itself:

I got the funny feeling that time on New Caperia was a dream sequence for Balter but I could be wrong.

[mel]

Just got through watching my tape of the part 2 on the season finale. All I have to say I'd be bummed if the item in the previous spoiler turned out to be true. The ending sets up a great premise for what could lie ahead. The episode itself ought to be nominated for an Emmy or at least a Hugo.

The only bummer of the whole thing is the October beginning for the 3rd season. I guess that gives the producers time to write good stories, get it on tape and present the fans with an unbroken season that runs all the way through March or April of 2007.

And hopefully they'll repackage the season 2 DVD set into one complete set instead of this 2.1 marketing crap they recently passed off. I am waiting for a full set.

[Marshall Field]

Been reading over at Aintitcool.com about BSG. Evidentially, the whole resistance arc will only last 4-5 episode bfore they're back searching for Earth. Sounds like an appropriate length.

I must say though that I thought that the season ender felt sloppier than previous episodes this season. However, when the that final 20 minutes arrived...holy frikkin cow...that was something completely unexpected. As ballsy as it gets on TV. Far ballsier than Tony Sporano get a lead sandwich from Junior.

Some people are speculating that it's some sort of dream, but I beg to differ. This is the real deal.

No lie when they say it's the best show on TV.

I am looking forward to Doctor Who. Hopefully, you'll be able to download it on iTunes.

[pzarquon]

Reviving this thread to happily report that the wife and I sat down and watched the original four-hour miniseries that spawned the current series.

We enjoyed it quite a bit, and were wonderfully surprised at some of the gutsy moves, and I was surprised by how much I still learned despite having thought I was "caught up" with Season 2. I didn't know Sharon's identity was known from the beginning, or that Lee had a brother (and that he and Starbuck had a history), for example. The number of details from the miniseries that carried over into the full series are pretty remarkable, making a surprisingly seamless continuum.

Was it already known, when the miniseries was produced, that there'd be a full series? I thought it was the success of the miniseries that spawned the full series (that was otherwise only a possibility), but it sure feels like the creators knew where they were going to go.

As to where things stand at the end of Season 2... I'm still impressed at the chance the creators took with the "flash forward." They just skipped a period of time greater than the timeline of the series to date, and there's a lot of new developments that are begging for explanations... or, perhaps, "LOST"-style flashbacks.

[helen]

I think the series was green lighted after the mini-series was produced but before it was aired. But I suspect that the producers knew it had a good chance of becoming a series given that original series ran at least a season.

[jasonzzz]

Yeah, best show! Can't wait til the new Season starts!!!

[helen]

According to a promo on the Sci-Fi Channel last night, the new season for Battlestar Galactica starts October 6.

[pzarquon]

Apple has put up another "Battlestar Galactica" freebie in iTunes: Inside Battlestar Galactica - Season Two (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=110899839&s=143441). Meanwhile, I'm still enjoying bits and pieces of the reruns.

ETA: Oops. This is the same documentary they put online months and months ago. Nevermind!

[pzarquon]

As posted in the iTunes Freebies (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=9221) thread...

Okay, now there's a new, free, up-until-now recap special available on iTunes: Battlestar Galactica - The Story So Far (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=195699594&s=143441).Before all new episodes of the Battlestar Galactica arrive on October 6th, don’t miss the chance to relive the entire first and second seasons as Sci Fi turns over 30 action packed hours into one 44 minute adventure. This exclusive special traces mankind’s fight for survival back to Battlestar Galactica’s rebirth as a ground breaking miniseries, and follows the last of humanity as they struggle to outrun their relentless enemy. Narrated by Mary McDonnell, Battlestar Galactica: The Story So Far is an essential look inside the events and people that define life on the edge of extinction. Whether a series fan, or first time viewer, this special will leave you up to date and prepared for the premiere of the third epic season of Battlestar Galactica, October 6th.If you're curious at all about the show but fear trying to catch up, these specials are always a great place to start. The last one helped me jump in mid-season.

[helen]

Season 3 starts this Friday at 6:00 pm (HST) on the Sci-Fi Channel. It's a 2 hour episode in case you want to tape it. If you miss it another one airs at 8:00 pm.

[helen]

Okay it's not a dream sequence.

I guess the Cylons are not above killing each other, which doesn't solve anything since they can be resurrected.

[mel]

Was a great episode and I am happy the New Caprica is not a dream sequence but another part of the continuing storyline that echoed a lot of stuff including terrorism and possible Nazi style executions.

[zff]

The season opener was..... chilling. And brilliant. How is it this show keeps getting better?

[pzarquon]

Man. I can't believe I missed this. Maybe our spare TiVo caught it.

I was really curious how things were going to go after the odd 'flash forward' in the preceding season finale. It seemed like a drastic change to make, moving from space to a dreary planet.

And I'm glad y'all like it. 'Cause I had my doubts, reading some of the reviews. I can appreciate good metaphor and couched commentary on contemporary issues -- that's what science fiction excels at -- but I was afraid they'd get a little preachy and heavy handed with the Iraq/Nazi comparisons.

[mel]

Check your TV schedule, they usually repeat Battlestar Galactica episodes on Monday nights and late Wednesday nights I believe. Used to be that way for the first 2 years.

[Adri]

Okay it's not a dream sequence.

I guess the Cylons are not above killing each other, which doesn't solve anything since they can be resurrected.

I think the killing of each other is a minor punishment, because it does hurt them to die. But wasn't there part of a storyline about how the humans managed to destroy whatever machine the cylons were using to regenerate so that if a cylon died, it was really dead? I guess we're supposed to assume that the cylons managed to rebuild whatever was destroyed.

[helen]

The Resurrection Ship. It was sort of meant for those sleeper agents in the human fleet in case they die among the human since they had no place to go to. For the Cylons on the planet the facilities exist for them someplace handy.

[zff]

So do you think those people have actually been executed? I really liked Laura Roslin, so I'm hoping maybe the gunfire was the landing party shooting it out with the execution squad.

Actually, it would be great drama if those people were indeed dead. If it turned out they're still alive, I'd see it as a little bit of a cop-out on the part of the BSG writers. The writing in this show has always been harsh; it never went for the easy story. It's one of the things I like about the show.

[helen]

Another possibilty would be the Cylon trained human police would fire at the Cylons.

[helen]

Start of tonight's episode threw a curve ball on who was going to save the prisoners from being executed.

One thing I couldn't figure out is why the Cylons need humans to guard or police the other humans. What's wrong with the Cylon Centurions doing the task?

Next week episode seems to be action packed.

[Adri]

Start of tonight's episode threw a curve ball on who was going to save the prisoners from being executed.

One thing I couldn't figure out is why the Cylons need humans to guard or police the other humans. What's wrong with the Cylon Centurions doing the task?

Next week episode seems to be action packed.

Off the top of my head, because the cylons are or were trying to make the humans think that they were working for the betterment of both cylons and humans and weren't trying to outright destroy the humans so they were trying to make them appear on the same side. and if they can convince some humans that they, the cylons, are right (or at least not terribly wrong) or convince some humans to go along with the cylons, then it makes the humans weaker by dividing them and making them unsure of whom to trust and there's such a thing as critical mass ~ if they can convince enough humans to go along, then most of the rest would have to bow to the sheer weight of the trend and the few who resist can be disposed of easily. Also, I'm probably reading far more into this than intended, but I get overtones of, among other things, the Holocaust: the effort to make a perfect race, the moving of the less than perfect into ghettos, the rounding up of dissidents, the co-opting of some of the victims to make them complicit in their own destruction and in the destruction of their "side" or race. Some of the victims join the enemy in shame for survival purposes, some to be on the winning side, some because they want terribly to believe that joining instead of resisting will make all the bad go away and form a new good world. But having humans doing the guarding and some of the killing makes it harder to identify the cylons as the sole enemy and makes the issues more than humans versus machines.

[helen]

Pretty exciting episode this week and a gutsy move on the Galactica's part by jumping inside a planet's atmosphere, launching it's Vipers and then jumping out.

The slugfest between the basestars and the battlestars was pretty impresive as well. The basestars don't seem to be well armored.

I wonder what happen to Baltar?

[mel]

[QUOTE=helen;
I wonder what happen to Baltar?[/QUOTE]

[speculation] = He'll be killed and then ressurrected to become a Cylon. "Am I a Cylon?"

Agree on the episode, this was a good, hard hitting action episode, though I can't believe that a ragtag group of rebels and 2 Battlestars could defeat a ground force of Cylons and 4 Cylon battleships with hundreds of fighter spacecraft. A little far fetched, but still a good episode.

I thought they'd be on New Caprica for a while longer. Looks like not.

[helen]

One thing I can not figure out is what drives Baltar to do the things that he does. The character is just a spineless weasel.

The actor is okay through, even if looks like the actor who played Doctor Bashier from Star Trek Deep Space Nine.

[mel]

Baltar is just about Baltar. Self preservation, profit from anything and to advance his personal agenda, even to the point of selling out his own "race" is something he'll do. If and when he returns to the Battlestar Galactica group, he'll change his tune and make all kinds of excuses as to why he helped the Cylons only to preserve his own life and secure his own future. Spineless yes. Slimy too.

On to the bigger picture, I totally agree that if there is a way to anihilate the Cylons by using the virus, I have to agree with President Rosalind on this. Wipe em out. But like anything else, there is always a dissenter, this one being Helo, who thwarts the plan.

Overall I wonder if this series will have a definite story ending arc before it inevitably falls to low ratings if kept on the air for too long. For now it seems to be going a good course, but I think in 1 or 2 years, the series should call it a wrap.

[pzarquon]

I really expected the "virus" subplot to last longer than one episode. Just like I expected New Caprica to be around longer than three episodes or so. I guess the fact that they didn't milk this for half a season shows the writers are still not resorting to filler to stretch out the show. And I hope that is a sign that they know where they're going and how it will all end. Most likely at Earth.

I like this show a lot, and finally got my wife hooked. With "LOST" gone until February, I'm glad we've still got a good show around to watch.

[helen]

Interesting story tonight with Carl Lumby starring as a pilot who got captured by the Cylons a year before the attacks started.

[mel]

Yep, they're going into flashback territory with this one. I wonder what's up with the upcoming boxing episode? Seems like every space based series has a boxing episode somewhere in their storyline.

[helen]

Something I just noticed about the series (watching the episode a second time). Bulldog was eating noodles from a bowl using chopsticks. Has any humans used fork and knifes? I know the Cylons used fork and knifes.

And another thing if the Cylon Centurians have built in guns in their body what happens when they run out of ammo?

[Adri]

Something I just noticed about the series (watching the episode a second time). Bulldog was eating noodles from a bowl using chopsticks. Has any humans used fork and knifes? I know the Cylons used fork and knifes.

Starbuck was eating with a fork and knife (when she was held with the cylon guy and led to believe she had a daughter). Ok, so she mostly used the knife to stab the cylon guy but she did use it.

[helen]

Yeah I remember that epsiode but the Cylon supplied the fork and knife. Hmmm, damm I can't remember the episode in the crew mess where the Chief ate lunch with Mr. Gatea.

[helen]

Tonight's episode is has a lot of flashbacks during the time of New Caprica when their first landed.

[helen]

Somehow this week's episode (12/08/06) concerning the human fleet just seems forced. Fleet is out of food, the new food can be found on another planet but local conditions make it hard to get to it, every one needs to brave radation and stuff that makes metal spaceships burn up.

Oh and a pilot with a checkered past.

[mel]

So the Cylons, Battlestar survivors converge once again on the brink of a new discovery and direction. Will the planet be nuked and who will end up with the prize? Will this story ever come to an end? I guess we all have to wait until January 21 when the series moves to a new day and time... Sundays... 10PM... so what time is that here in Hawaii? I hope it is not on at the same time as Desperate Housewives!

[pzarquon]

Wow. Suddenly every show is doing a 'two pod' season with hiatus. But why do they all have to leave me at the same time? LOST, Heroes, BSG... At least I have "A Charlie Brown Christmas" and "A Christmas Story" to tide me over for now...

Seriously, though, a good episode. Sharon/Athena is betrayed. The Lee/Starbuck thing is getting properly messy. The "search for Earth" gets a tangible landmark. And I love Gaius Baltar. He's such a great weasel.

[helen]

Talk about plot holes. Last week episode ships had to make two jumps with the aid of a Raptor to get to this planet and this week they leave in one jump without the aid of a Raptor.

[mel]

Wow. Suddenly every show is doing a 'two pod' season with hiatus. But why do they all have to leave me at the same time? LOST, Heroes, BSG............ And I love Gaius Baltar. He's such a great weasel.

Shows doing 2 part seasons aren't new. I went through Babylon 5 for 5 years and they did the same thing... stretch out a weird syndicated season from something like February to May and then October to November with a big gap in-between. B5 is one of the greatest scifi serials ever, though Battlestar Galactica is coming awfully close.

And yes, Gaius is a classic bad guy right up there with B5's Mr. Morden. Both will betray their own people for some kind of personal gain.

Oh.. and why do all the shows leave the air at the same time? The perception by the networks is that the public is too busy celebrating the holidays during December and January... less eyes for less ads means smaller ratings... so they push everything to end of January and beginning of the February sweeps... hence all the time changes too... Lost going to 9PM Hawaii... Battlestar going to 10PM mainland (7 Hawaii?).....

[pzarquon]

Talk about plot holes. Last week episode ships had to make two jumps with the aid of a Raptor to get to this planet and this week they leave in one jump without the aid of a Raptor.How is that a plot hole? They could've just jumped further beyond where they were to escape. Last week, they found there was a radiation belt too large to go around between them and the algae planet. This week they were at the algae planet, but unless it was surrounded by the radiation belt, they could've jumped in just about any direction.

I'm pretty sure the near supernova star will be key to how our friends escape the cliffhanger situation when next season begins...

[helen]

I was checking the schedule section of the Sci-Fi web site for today (http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?feed_req=US:Hawaii:W&program=) using Sci-Fi West and US/Hawaii and the listed schedule is stating it one hour before it actually airs so with this in mind for January 21 it should air 8 pm and repeating 10 pm HST.

At least with the Sci-Fi channel they tend to repeat the airing, if you missed the first.

[DiverDown808]

*Groooooooaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnn*

We decided to cancel cable and just stick with basic.

I loooved Battlestar Galactica as a kid, and absolutely loved this generation's version. Looks like it's time to go shopping for the DVD Collections.

By the way, I think we got rid of cable because Cran was tired of steam-cleaning my drool off the carpet everytime Grace park came on.

DD

[mel]

Sci-Fi West and US/Hawaii and the listed schedule is stating it one hour before it actually airs so with this in mind for January 21 it should air 8 pm and repeating 10 pm HST.


That would put it in direct conflict with Desperate Housewives. Luckily SciFi does have the repeat. What time will this start when the mainland switches back to Daylight Savings Time? 7:00 pm? Hope so.

Perhaps by then the series will wrap for the season around April. Or maybe they will stop in March and save more new episodes for May, which is another sweeps month.

*Groooooooaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnn*
I loooved Battlestar Galactica as a kid, and absolutely loved this generation's version. Looks like it's time to go shopping for the DVD Collections.


Season 1 and two parts of Season 2 are available on DVD as boxed sets (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-1116633-5821210?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=Battlestar+Galactica&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go). Many people don't like the fact that Season 2 is offered in 2 seperate sets. I sure hope they re-release it to one single boxed set. I have a feeling they may end up doing the same thing with Season 3, splitting the series in half just where it hangs this week. $30+ for 9 or 10 episodes? The company that releases these things on DVD must be run by Cylons.

[DiverDown808]

The company that releases these things on DVD must be run by Cylons.

So do you get a free toaster with each purchase ? :D

DD

[mel]

Just in case anyone needs to catch up, SciFi is running an all day long "Battlestar Galactica" marathon until 5:PM Hawaii time. They're playing all of the aired Season 3 episodes up to the "cliffhanger" at episode #11.

Promos inserted indicate that there are 9 more episodes to air this season, and these start on January 21. I figured out the times will be 8:00 PM with a repeat at 10:00 PM for Oceanic Honolulu customers. Times for satellite and other locales may vary. What happens when the mainland returns to Daylight Savings Time remains to be seen.

The remaining 9 episodes will fill out the full 20-episode season order. After that will there be a 4th season?

Season 1 ran for 13 episodes.
Season 2 ran for 20 episodes.
Season 3 will be for 20 too.

Throw in the original mini series which debut in 2003 is separate from the above. I was also reading there was a web-only broadcast of Battlestar Galactica that filled in the storyline for the time they spent on New Caprica.
Remains to be seen if these will eventually show up on a Season 3 DVD release.

Got this info from a Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_%282004_TV_series%29) which at this point may not be totally accurate.

[helen]

Just a reminder that a new episode of Battlestar Galactica airs this Sunday (1/21) at 8:00 pm (HST) with a repeat airing at 10:00 pm (HST) on the Sci-Fi channel.

[helen]

Well Baltar is back with the fleet as well as Hera. And they have a captured Number Six as well. I wonder if this is the one who imagines Baltar?

[DiverDown808]

Curse you ALL, for your continuous rants of this show.

Thanks to you, I upgraded my cable package to include the Sci-Fi channel so I can get up to speed on this show.

But shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell Cran there are new channels that have to be manually punched in on the TV remote.......or she'll kill me. Really, she will. Man, the thing I risk just to get my Grace Park fix :eek:

DD

[pzarquon]

A good episode to come back with. Well, I frankly could care less about the Starbuck/Lee/Dualla/Anders soap opera stuff, but the reveals and hints about the "Final Five" and the "13th Tribe" and Starbuck's destiny were pretty tantalizing. With all the talk lately about the show's future, I wonder if they're going to pick up the pace on the overall story arc?

[zff]

Wow, that was a GREAT episode. I felt Season 3 was a little lackluster compared to 1 and 2, but this episode really seems to have gotten the series back on track. It's opened up all kinds of interesting potential.

And they have a captured Number Six as well. I wonder if this is the one who imagines Baltar?I was under the impression that it was indeed Caprica Six, the cylon hero. The one that seduced Baltar and got the codes to bring down the Colonies' defenses. I wonder how she's going to be treated aboard Galactica, and what interaction, if any, she'll have with Baltar (the real one, not the one in her head).

..and speaking of Baltar, I wonder if he'll be able to talk his way out of this one. I could see him claiming to have been manipulated, giving up a few cylon secrets, figuring out Earth's location, etc. and redeeming himself, at least in the eyes of a few. That snake.

I also like the dark turn for Boomer (the Grace Park model that was in love with Tyrol and was shot by Cally). She appears to be motivated more by emotion than calculations. Interesting twist there. Another good source of interesting stories.

And of course, there's Starbuck's destiny. Did any of you get the impression that she's one of the Final Five? Maybe she's destined to open a chain of coffee houses once they find Earth. :D

[helen]

Well it seems that Baltar is not a Cylon. Even though a part of him wishes he was but I suspect that he forgot that he was able to survive the basestar that was infected a few episodes ago.

I am sort of surprised that the Cylons never bothered to have him mated with some of the female Cylons and have babies.

I am also kind of wondering why Gaeta wanted to kill Baltar?

[NemesisVex]

I think what I'm really loving are the shout-outs to BSG in Veronica Mars.

[helen]

Strange episode tonight. I can understand Col. Tigh's ragging on Helo during this episode, but for Adama to initially ignore Helo seemed out of place.

[DiverDown808]

I'm sure it's the animosity that's being steered his way due to the fact he's married to a Cylon and has a hybrid child from that marriage.

The underlying message in tonights episode was racism, so it fits the story line.

DD

[pzarquon]

Straight from the horse's mouth (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/news/): SCI FI has renewed Battlestar Galactica for a fourth season, commissioning a minimum of 13 more episodes of "the best show on television." Production will resume this summer with an eye toward a January 2008 season premiere.

More details from E! Online: Battlestar Back for Fourths (http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=73e26eed-9155-4c3b-98c4-33cad9c90d06&entry=index)

[helen]

So at the beginning of tonight's episode (2/18/07) was there an actual woman with Adama in the bed or was it his imagation that a woman was in his bed?

[DiverDown808]

I think it was just him flashbacking to the time with his wife.

I wonder how many more episodes until it's the President in bed with him.

Great rescue scene tonight.

DD

[Adri]

I agree, I think Adama was imagining his wife in his bed. I kinda hope they never show the President in bed with Adama (or maybe for the series finale). I like the current interaction between them but it would be a little squicky to watch them actually making out/having sex. Sort of like watching one's parents. If the relationship between Adama and the President does develop further, maybe it will be shown like Captain Kirk just sitting on the edge of a bed putting on his shoes. ;)

[DiverDown808]

My wife was making fun of me because I was choked up when the "nugget" was getting scolded by Starbuck. Great episode.

But I DID think it was out of character for Adama to threaten to execute the Chief's wife....even if it was a bluff on his part. The writers had Adama as a father figure until this little stint. I hope they don't do it again.

DD

[Adri]

But I DID think it was out of character for Adama to threaten to execute the Chief's wife....even if it was a bluff on his part. The writers had Adama as a father figure until this little stint. I hope they don't do it again.

DD

I hope they don't do it again as well. I guess it was a "no negotiating with mutineers" kind of thing. But the President's reaction to being told that children were working under those conditions surprised me. I expected her to at least be concerned about children working those hours under those conditions. I expected her last reaction (when meeting with the Chief after he caved to Adama) to be her first reaction.

[helen]

I suspect if the strike was just limited to the refinement ship Adama wouldn't have threaten to shoot Cally since that ship was a civilian ship. Since the Galactica's deck crew decided to join in the strike they basically wasn't following orders.

[pzarquon]

I really, really liked this episode... though yeah, upon deeper scrutiny I found myself a bit confused. As my wife said, "When Gaius Baltar starts making sense... you know something is wrong."

Threatening to shoot Cally seemed a bit extreme, though I guess the rules for military service differ from those for civilians (i.e. the folks on the refining ships). But it sounds like Adama could have made the same point without the threat... especially since the end result was the sit-down chat with Madame President, which ultimately created what we assume will be a productive relationship.

That aside, though, everything from showing the "dirty jobs" in the fleet to the sad tale of Danny Moon (the engineer-not-farmer) to Seelix's promotion was well done.

[helen]

What a strange episode. One would figure Starbuck's destiny would lead the fleet to Earth not have her trashing her Viper on some planet.

[Adri]

What a strange episode. One would figure Starbuck's destiny would lead the fleet to Earth not have her trashing her Viper on some planet.

I'm wondering if this is a lead up to [SPOILER] a reveal that Starbuck is one of the final 5 cylons or possibly a red herring to lead poeple to wonder if she's gonna wake up in one of the cylon rebirth bathtubs. I'm leaning towards the latter and that the storm swirl is supposed to represent the swirl pattern on the temple and that Starbuck drew and she's gonna find herself not crushed and sploded to death but transported somewhere that will give her more clues on their path to finding Earth.

[mel]

She's gone.

Click here (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/battlestar-galactica/battlestar-galactica-a-starbuc-4644.aspx)


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This was the first of the last 4 shows for season 3.

[DiverDown808]

Hey Adri

Don't worry about spoilers. Looks like only four of us are keeping this thread alive. LOL

I definitely don't think Starbuck is dead. From a writing standpoint, it would seem odd to build up the fact that she has a "destiny" that needs to come to light....only to say naaahhhhhhh, let's blow you up.

They lept showing her hand going for the ejection handles, so I think she ejected and was picked up by that Cylon Raider in the clouds. If you recorded this episode, go back to when Apollo says "I got visual" on Starbuck...you'll see the Cylon Raider shoot off into the clouds just before he looks up and sees Starbucks Viper......so the Raider was actually from Apollo's perspective this time.

Hopefully they'll bring her back soon.

DD

[Adri]

heh, ok DiverDown808 *g*

She's gone.

Click here (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/battlestar-galactica/battlestar-galactica-a-starbuc-4644.aspx)


more (http://www.syfyportal.com/news423351.html)



This was the first of the last 4 shows for season 3.

I dunno, the first article seems to leave room for other possibilities.

[pzarquon]

You know that Oscar moment at the end of the episode? When a distraught Adama suddenly crushes and destroys the delicate model ship? Two interesting facts about that scene:

It was improvised by Edward James Olmos.
It wasn't a cheap, crushable prop. It was a valuable museum piece.Listen to the latest podcast (http://media.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/317/bsg_ep317_FULL.mp3) (MP3) for the details.

[buzz1941]

I'm leaning toward a Cylon rebirth. And it will have something to do with the child she thought she had mothered.

[mel]

FYI, "Battlestar Galactica" airs an hour earlier tonight on Oceanic Cable and I suspect on other cable and satellite systems due to the DST change.

7:00 pm on SCI FI; Repeat @ 9:00 pm.

As I was catching up with the latest podcast this afternoon, I suddenly realized that the "latest" version iTunes downloaded for me was of the episode that airs tonight... pre-trial for Baltar, a cat, and a bomber.

[helen]

A kleptomaniac lawyer who wears sunglasses indoors who knows Lee's grandfather. Yeah Balter is going to have an interesting trial.

Is Balter only being charged with things he did during the time at New Capira?

[DiverDown808]

Ok, I mised the Sunday airing so I had to wait for the re-airing....so I didn't read this thread until I watched it.

Not a terribly interesting episode for me.

I'm getting tired of these Hanibal Lechter type characters. Despite the accent, all I could think about was Anthony Hopkins everytime the lawyer had a scene.

And I really don't like where this is going. Apollo is going to help the lawyer defend Baltar. Why ? Because he beleives in the right to a fair jury ? He's fixated on the lawyer because he knew his grandfather ? He's looking for something to distract him from thinking about the alleged death of Starbuck ?

Who knows......and unfortunately I found myself not caring.

Am I the only one that thinks they need to drop this storyline and go back to landing on strange new planets, meeting strange aliens, Tigh having sex with female aliens.............wait, I'm thinking Star Trek. Never mind :)

DD

[helen]

Somehow this series haven't encountered any aliens and I am kind of wondering if these guys would get bent out of shape if they did encountered any intelligent alien life forms.

[Adri]

Spoilers for tonight's ep. Surprise upon surprise. I suspected that the trial would turn out that way, that Starbuck would reappear, and also that there were other cylons in the fleet but I had no idea who the new cylons would be. I wonder if making the cylons with human emotions and making the sleeper cylons were a mistake on the part of the cylons. The one true sleeper cylon (Sharon) sided with the humans over the cylons and at least initially it seems that the 4 new sleeper cylons are doing the same. In the beginning, it seemed that the Boomer cylon had no control over doing certain things she had been programmed to do but the Caprica Sharon cylon seems to be able to defy the cylons (unless they preprogrammed her but it hasn't kicked in yet).

[helen]

And they only showed 4 new supposedly new Cylons assuming it is not a mind game played upon on those 4 people.

The bummer part is that we have to wait until sometime in 2008 for the next season.

[pzarquon]

What a great season finale. You can tell they wrote it with the understanding that it could've been the end of the entire series. Glad it wasn't... and now I'm trying to deal with the fact that the rest of the story won't come until 2008. Ugh!

So, we met four of the five, yes? (Great scene.) Did they already "out" the fifth? It can't be Kara.

[DiverDown808]

Four of the five were on the Gallactica. The fifth could be on another ship, or....................so many possibilities.

I can't beleive we have to wait until 2008 for the saga to continue. AAArrrrrghhhhhhhhhh

DD

[mel]

I agree that this was a great season finale. And yes, it could have been the end of the series too... but luckily it was renewed for a full 22 episode run. The only bad thing is we have to wait until next year.

It was interesting that some of the most loyal people on BG are Cylons.

Is Baltar a Cylon?

[Adri]

I don't think Kara or Baltar are cylons. DiverDown808: When you say 4 of the 5 were revealed, do you mean the final five cylons? I am not clear that the 4 that were revealed in this ep are actually part of the final 5 cylons as opposed to just cylons that weren't revealed until now. I am curious about which cylon was the one that D'anna didn't expect to see among the final five.

[mel]

It's all over the net today. Battlestar Galactica will be ending during its 22-episode run of Season 4 next year. The first new episode will premiere in November with the rest of the season to follow in early 2008.

Story link: http://slashdot.org/articles/07/06/01/1450248.shtml

I think it will be a good thing for this great show to end when it will. The end is coming on the call of the show's producers and not the network it airs on. It's just like Babylon 5 of years gone by, where the producers and writer had a 5-year plan for their story arc and got the show completed and resolved in that time.

Hooray for Battlestar Galactica!

[Random]

Hooray for Battlestar Galactica!
Still, it would be nice if they could make it 5 years.

[mel]

I think for an arc show 4 to 5 years is just about right. People want storylines to resolve fairly quickly and not stretch out for too long. I think "Lost" may be going for a little too long. Plus it is cheaper for me if a good show like "Battlestar Galactica" will end at 4 years, because I won't have to buy too many DVDs to get the entire story run.

[DiverDown808]

So now you have to contemplate the ending of the series storyline.........

I don't think they'll find earth. That way, they have the choice to make a motion picture with the continuing storyline.

Of course, they can always land in Iran and.........naaaahhhhhhhhhhhh :D

Love this show. Very sad to see it end.

DD

[helen]

Considering that the original series got the axe after one season and another attempt a couple of years later for less than a season, this version ending after 4 seasons and on their terms seems to be a milestone of sorts.

[helen]

According to the Sci-Fi channel there will be a sneak peak of Battlestar Galactica during the July 10 airing of Eureka.

[helen]

While watching the Sci-Fi channel tonight they had a preview for Battlestar Galactica: Razor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0991178/) to be aired on November 24. It suppose to cover the first Cylon War and Battlestar Pegasus's experience during the initial attack of the second war.

[helen]

Last night's peek of Razor had showed a space battle during the first Cylon war, and the Cylons were using the spacecraft in the style of the original Battlestar Galactica series from 1978.

[Kittrick]

There are new "mini-sodes" of 2 minutes each being aired during "Flash Gordon" on Fridays. They have to do with the young Bill Adama. I think they may be available on the sci-fi website after they air.

[Adri]

I wonder if it's a sign of our decreasing attention span that we now have 2 minute episodes. It's sort of tricky burying it in Flash Gordon so that people will hopefully watch Flash Gordon if they want to catch the Razor eps. I don't think 2 minutes is long enough to get any good story line momentum, though.

[Kittrick]

I wonder if it's a sign of our decreasing attention span that we now have 2 minute episodes. It's sort of tricky burying it in Flash Gordon so that people will hopefully watch Flash Gordon if they want to catch the Razor eps. I don't think 2 minutes is long enough to get any good story line momentum, though.

Naw I think it's just a breadcrumb to wet our appetites for November. I require more more BSG myself!

[helen]

No forgot that Razor airs tonight on the Sci-Fi Channel. 7:00 pm HST. It also repeats at 11:00 pm HST.

[Adri]

I finally got to see the Razor ep. Overall, I did like it but can anyone tell me, did Lee essentially order Kara to stay behind and detonate the bomb? I heard him order her to get the ExO out and to complete the mission. But it doesn't make sense to me that he'd order the best pilot (well, perhaps second best if he wants to count himself) they have to stay and get blown up.

I also wondered what was up with all the anvil dropping about the relationship between Cain and Gina? I have no objection to gay or lesbian characters and I guess TPTB were trying to add layers to why Cain hated the cylons so (in case she needed more reason) but I thought Sci-Fi's announcements in between the episode segments (more like grand pronouncements) outing Cain just in case we missed the falling anvils were crass. What was the point of that?

[MixedPlateBroker]

Yah, kablooey. Considering Lee was ready to fire a nuke at the cylon ship w/o knowing if his people were off, it would seem his orders follow a certain strategic logic.

I agree it was kinda lame how the announcer put so much vocal emphasis on the revelation that Cain and Gina were lovers -- as if he were cutting an intro for Springer. BFD!

I found the guest appearance of the gen 1 cylons much more titilating!:p
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rifts-BSG-Race/Cylon_Race.jpg

[pzarquon]

I absolutely agree on the "anvil dropping." I thought it was a great reveal as handled within the episode, but those Quizno's recaps were teeth-gratingly bad. "It's been REVEALED! She was a LESBIAN! Mmm mmm mmm TOASTY!" Geez. I expect a lot of the feedback Sci-Fi is getting on "Razor" touches on this.

I also felt there was something a little off about Lee's call. I expected the "someone has to be left behind" plot early on, and expected it would be Shaw... why not let her make that call? Having Lee make a show of sacrificing Kara first kinda sucked any potential for tension out of the "ultimate price" scenario.

But it was fantastic seeing how some stuff unfolded, stuff that was only alluded to in Season 1. We got to know Col. Belzen just enough to dread his shocking demise. And I was surprised to see Adm. Cain depicted being more human and compassionate than we'd seen on BSG, but also being more cold and heartless than we imagined as well.

It was a neat taste of BSG as we wait for the new season. And now I can't help but wish "LOST" would do something similar for the next unbearably long hiatus.

[zff]

Starbuck is the Harbinger of Death? The Herald of the Apocalypse? Uh oh.

[helen]

While I watched the episode I didn't tape it so I couldn't go back to scenes that I couldn't understand or miss (a friend called during the airing of the episode).

One thing I noticed was that they didn't show the stuff that was on those 2 minute previews during the Flash Gordon airing but I can assume that would be on the DVD that they was saying during the commericals, which would be available on December 4.

[Kittrick]

While I watched the episode I didn't tape it so I couldn't go back to scenes that I couldn't understand or miss (a friend called during the airing of the episode).

One thing I noticed was that they didn't show the stuff that was on those 2 minute previews during the Flash Gordon airing but I can assume that would be on the DVD that they was saying during the commericals, which would be available on December 4.

They finished airing those last week, as Razor was on this week. They were viewable in sequence on the scifi.com website last time I checked.

[helen]

Promos for Battlestar Galactica have been airing on the Sci-Fi Network saying that it's coming back on April 4.

[helen]

While the new season starts next week Friday, tonight a couple of 1/2 hour specials aired on the Sci-Fi network. The first one is a summary of the series while the second one is a collection of views of fans who work on other series like Robot Chicken, Law & Order, Euraka and others.

It re-airs at 10pm HST.

[zff]

Here's (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php?clip=recap) a very short but entertaining recap of all three seasons on SciFi's site.

[helen]

New season started tonight. Starbuck returns, according to her she has only been gone for 6 hours while the rest of the fleet says she has been dead for the last 2 months.

Interesting that the 4 self revealved Cylons from last season are blowing holes in Starbuck's story or in the case of the chief may have cleaned up Starbuck's returned Viper.

[cynsaligia]

salon.com did a primer on battlestar galactica (http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2008/04/02/bsg_explainer/print.html), which is a good thing for me. i don't think i've ever seen more than three eppies in sequence. how eric is able to keep the story straight, i'll never know.

[Adri]

Interesting that the cylons (well, at least Six) sometimes see Gaius in a messianic role and now there are a group of humans (or presumably humans) doing the same thing. And just when he decided to cut down on his Jesus-like look and shave off his beard, he might have pulled off a miracle. Ok, ok, so perhaps it was more tied (if you accept The Powers That Be in the story) to his willingness to sacrifice himself but I do think there is a tie between the lessening of his arrogance and his letting go of his selfish concerns (in the beginning he was afraid the child would infect them all but later actually touched the child to pray for him and then being willing to trade his life for the child's) and the reinforcement of his messianic role (although I do wonder whether the cylons "cured" the child to help along the acceptance that Gaius can do miracles).

[helen]

Wow a Cylon civil war, I didn't see that plot twist coming.

So what is the deal with Apollo? Is the character being written off due to the actor going someplace else or is the character going to be someplace else other than going with Starbuck finding Earth again?

[helen]

Well Apollo is still in the series. However Cally is not.

[mel]

I was disappointed that Cally got spaced. Darn Cylons.

[zff]

Aw frak, I can't believe they killed off Cally. That poor girl. All her life, she's been a Cylon's bitch.

First, she spends her career in love with a man who's in love with a Cylon that outranks her.

Then she finally gets her man, but they have to live under an occupation where she takes orders from copies of Boomers every day.

They escape, only for Cally to live in a miserable little metal box, attending to her crying half-Cylon kid.

Then she finds out her husband is a Cylon and she's been used by the Cylons in the worst possible way (from Cally's point of view).

Then she gets airlocked by a Cylon. Boy, that's rough. Poor Cally. She just never caught a break.




...and why did they kill off all the Sixes and Eights? They were two of the best reasons to watch the show!

[helen]

Noticed that there is a promo picture of the cast of Battlestar Galactica posed sort of like in da Vinci's The Last Supper. Apollo is dressed in a business suit in the photo.

[helen]

I was expecting Baltar to admit to the Chief that it was his access codes that the Cylons used to bring down the Colonial defenses.

Even if he did admit it what could happen to Baltar now?

[helen]

So after a near munity, Felix getting shot in the leg and spending close to 2 months by themselves only at the last minute does Starbuck think about taking a Raptor alone to check things out.

I didn't catching the starting credits but was that Nana Visitor as Emily?

[zff]

Yes, it was! I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen her before. Not having those Bajoran nose ridges threw me off. :)


As far as the episode went, I think it was the first one this season that was mildly interesting. I hope it keeps getting better.

[helen]

I am kind of wondering if the fifth of the final five Cylon models, no longer exist. Between the initial attacks on the colonies and losses of people in the fleet during the past 4 years the likeyhood of such an event is possible.

[helen]

Baltar finally admitted to Laura that it was his access codes that the Cylons used to disable their defenses.

[Adri]

A little heavy with the anvils with Baltar's wounded side and outstretched arms but I thought the discussion about Laura needing to love someone was an interesting (and, to me, unexpected) twist. So, any bets on who the fifth of the final five might be? I think Starbuck is too obvious. Hmmmm, maybe it *is* Laura afterall...

[helen]

I suspect Baltar is not one of the final five. I am pretty much sure that both Bill and Lee Adama are not one of the final five.

[HaoleWrites]

Despite the little tease by Deanna in the last episode, I'm still sticking by my guns that Roslyn is the final Cylon. 43rd in line of succession? Coincidence? Hmmm.

[zff]

I'm kinda leaning toward one of the side characters as the last Cylon, most likely Doc Cottle... or maybe it's Dualla, Gaeta or Zarek.

I also have this nagging suspicion that Lee is somehow a Cylon. It's only because of that episode where the soon-to-be-airlocked Leoben tells Roslin that "Adama is a Cylon". Of course, Roslin and the viewers assume Leoben meant the commander (at the time), and IIRC, that had the president pushing Baltar to finish his Cylon detector. It could all have been a plot point to distract us from the fact that they had just given away the ending.

[helen]

Col. Tigh finally admits to the Admiral he is a Cylon, and Bill Adama's reaction is:

You can't be a Cylon, I known you for 30 years, you had hair.

Well they found Earth. Assuming if it's our Earth, did they come in our past or in our future?

[mel]

So Battlestar Galactica and more so, the SciFi Channel has left all of us hanging now for several months after the conclusion of tonight's episode. One of the major goals of the Galactica voyage have been met, but now it certainly looks like they have some major new challenges coming in the last 10 episodes of this series.

The problem is the last 10 will not be shown until at least February 2009 (http://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-final-season-split-in-two-2652/). :eek:

This is just as bad or maybe worst than Lost. We have been told that this was to be the last season, but SciFi decided to split the season up into 2 parts spread very far apart.

The worst possible outcome of this is that the first 10 episodes of Season 4 will be released on DVD and then the next 10 on DVD much later, and both at high prices like how they did it with Season 2, which I think stinks.

So far I only have Seasons 1 and 3 on DVD and am reluctant to buy Season 2 unless they unite both parts into one set. But I suspect they won't do that.

[zff]

Wow, they decided to cram an entire season's worth of plot development and tension into ONE episode. Hey, at least it was a good one.

Feb 2009? Those frackin bastards!

[pzarquon]

The midseason finale seemed very "LOST"-ian. Another showdown between someone who irrationally believes versus someone who insists on rationality. And a big plot development that fans expected would be the end of the show served up with several episodes to go. Oh, yeah, and calling a ridiculous stretch of time a mere "hiatus." Heh.

I was surprised the "return to Earth" journey was so short and matter-of-fact, once the bearing was discovered. I figured that was going to be three episodes' of plot at least. But Adama articulated well that the best course of action was to just get it done and quickly, now that they knew where they were going, lest things fall apart all over again.

It was an emotional moment, to be sure, but not half as weighty as I expected. Even Adama's announcement to the whole fleet seemed a bit underwhelming. It definitely makes me curious what lies ahead... apart from the fifth and final Cylon. A Cylon that we learn was not in the fleet (but perhaps was among those on the Cylon basestar?).

Was it just me, or was anyone else expecting to see the arm and partially submerged crown of the Statue of Liberty in that last shot?

[mel]

Was it just me, or was anyone else expecting to see the arm and partially submerged crown of the Statue of Liberty in that last shot?

Yeah, I was kind of waiting for some kind of familiar symbol to show up at this new scrotched Earth. Now like Lost there is a looooong wait to endure. Why do we latch on to these kinds of shows? :eek:

[helen]

Speaking of which what was the light colored surface on that planet? Was it water or snow?

[Adri]

The light colored surface from space or once they had landed?

[helen]

During the time everyone was on the ground.

[Adri]

I *think* it was water but I might not be thinking of the same thing you're thinking of :p