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alohabear
May 24th, 2005, 06:01 AM
How is it possible that a convicted sex offender(w/ a minor) would even get pass a background check to work in one of Hawaii's public schools? Well... it happened in Puna at Pahoa High. This woman is working as a teacher's aide and the DOE let's the Principal make the final call on hiring. According to an article I read in this pass Sunday's(5/22) Tribune Hearld, a DOE spokesperson Sandra Goya said there is no state law that prevents hiring sex offenders , even against a minor, at our schools. If that's the case, why even do a backgroud check? Maybe to fine out if they owe money and are a financal risk! Something is wrong in Paradise. :mad:

1stwahine
May 24th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Whaaaaattt? Blank, blank, stupid blank. Sex offenders hired in our schools? Leave it to our Legislators....those ding bats.

craigwatanabe
May 24th, 2005, 10:35 AM
Doing a background check is up to the hiring board of that organization. It's up to their descretion to follow up on a new hire. And even so does having your name on these registers automatically disqualify you from employment or is it just a black mark for reasons to hire someone else?

I'm speaking as a Devil's Advocate here but to me it seems that if you did the time and took the punishment why should you continued to be punished by employment denials.

In child rearing if you told your child, "no Nintendo for a week because you broke the house rules" and then after a week you continued to restrict the child even after the child learned his lesson and was a good boy, what kind of message are you sending to that child? That despite taking the punishment you will be screwed after the fact?

So to a sex offender if convicted once and realizing that no matter how reformed he becomes he will still be punished for the rest of his life for his past, do you think he'll even try to be a better person? Where's the incentive to try if you will have to live the rest of your life with this disgrace of a scarlet letter burned into your life for all to see.

Even Murderers don't get put on an indefinate public list like that. There has to be some finite to a person's indictment or else you may as well lock em up for life.

For as good as this sex-offender register is, I feel it can be of more harm to those who redeemed their lives yet must face the denials and retributions from what that list contains and who can see it.

alohabear
May 24th, 2005, 12:54 PM
It's not that they're not forgiven ...but I don't think they should be working around our kids. Would you hired a ex bank robber to be a bank teller or cashier? Of course not.

These crimes had innocent victims who didn't ask to be hurt....The BIG difference is that the DOE made a mistake.

poi cocktail :)
May 24th, 2005, 08:51 PM
this is ridiculous, he's lucky to be out and about but should not be working at a school. call it one strike if you want! or was the ACLU involved in the hiring decision or something.

craigwatanabe
May 24th, 2005, 10:06 PM
regardless of being forgiven or not, if you served your just punishment and you're set free, you should be just that, free and not hindered by futher persecution from the law for which you served your time under.

That's fair and the balance beam that Lady Liberty carries and the blindfold around her eyes reminds us that the laws do not favor one over another. People make mistakes in their lives. Hopefully we learn from them by becoming better citizens. If incarceration brings about a better person once released then that person deserves another chance at life. It's called Redemption and everyone deserves at least one shot at it less be condemned to Hell.

It's easy to judge without understanding, it's harder to show compassion and forgiveness, but in life the greatest rewards come from our efforts. Redemption is humanity's greatest reward for it is done out of humility.

Jesus forgave his crucifiers, Bill Clinton pardoned a few undesirables. If they can forgive, so can we for we are sinners ourselves not saints and one day it could be one of us being judged by our peers as we have judged in this thread and wouldn't it be nice to know that there is still a redeeming quality amongst all of us who hide some kind of societal misgivings?

We're not perfect and the first person who says they are...I forgive you too unless you're God Almighty.

helen
May 24th, 2005, 11:01 PM
From the on-line edition of the Honolulu Advertiser (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/May/24/ln/ln19p.html):

One of the employees was convicted in 1962 of second-degree rape of a minor, according to the state's sex-offender database. The other employee was convicted in 1994 of second-degree sexual assault of an adult, according to the database, which was put on the Internet this month.
Assuming that the Advertiser got their facts straight and the first person in this report is the same person that alohabear is concerned about then this thing is really blown out of proporation. 1962? That's over 40 years ago and if this person hasn't committed any more similar crimes since then, then this person shouldn't suffer job loss because of this.

alohabear
May 25th, 2005, 05:43 AM
From the on-line edition of the Honolulu Advertiser (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/May/24/ln/ln19p.html):


Assuming that the Advertiser got their facts straight and the first person in this report is the same person that alohabear is concerned about then this thing is really blown out of proporation. 1962? That's over 40 years ago and if this person hasn't committed any more similar crimes since then, then this person shouldn't suffer job loss because of this.


According to the public record the second-degree sexual assault took place on O'ahu in 1994.

pzarquon
May 25th, 2005, 06:33 AM
I thought these two paragraphs were interesting:
The department was aware that the employees were sex offenders, and had followed the proper review procedures before determining that they should be hired, she said.
Which makes sense. Yet, a little later:
On Friday, the DOE sent letters to parents across the state to advise them that the database is available. The letters ask parents to inform the DOE of any school employees who are listed as sex offenders, or who have recent criminal convictions.
So do they know their employees' backgrounds, or not? If they do, why ask the public to do the sleuthing for them?

I'm all for the free access to this information, and know quite well the blindspots you'll find all over a large system like a state government. But the downside of this public database, sadly, will be witch hunts and knee-jerk reactions. Ah well.

Interestingly, the Star-Bulletin story (http://starbulletin.com/2005/05/25/news/story7.html) notes that the employee with the 1994 record is a female.

scrivener
May 25th, 2005, 07:41 AM
It's not that they're not forgiven ...but I don't think they should be working around our kids. Would you hired a ex bank robber to be a bank teller or cashier? Of course not.

This is what I was thinking after reading the original post, so thanks for verbalizing my sentiments. I'm mostly on the side of letting people alone once they've paid their debt, but yes, I also believe that if you've committed a violent crime against a child, you've lost the privilege of ever working closely with children again.

I don't know if outrage is the most reasonable response here without having heard the full story. I also don't think the amount of time that's passed since the conviction has any bearing whatsoever.

poi cocktail :)
May 25th, 2005, 01:10 PM
there's been very sensational discoverings of child molestations by trusted and respected people that's been going on unreported for decades. do you put an alcoholic behind the bar, an addict in the phamarcy, give a thief the combo to the vault? I'm not outraged on this but think the hiring decision goes counter to basic common sense. convicted, did the time, supposedly rehab'd, now free, fine. but not given free reign like that. child molester now a teacher. like, tilt! then again we have (hopefully) former hackers who are computer security specialists, etc.

craigwatanabe
May 25th, 2005, 01:13 PM
we really don't know just how violent the rape in question was do we? Rape can be as subtle as sex without consent or full on near death experience.

Whatever the case may be the sentence was just and the man was released after serving his full time of incarceration. This list furthers his sentence and I don't believe at the time of entering a guilty plea he was told that in some time in the future his name would be published as a sex offender after serving his time.

I'm sure the defense attorney representing him would have fought the case to remove that action from the verdict to get a guilty plea. All parties agreed to the terms of a conviction if he plead guilty. That's plea bargaining and I hardly believe in 1962 there was any wording that would have put his name on a registery that would succeed his incarceration.

I honestly feel there is a problem and one day someone like this janitor will have a lawsuit in hand for damages incurred because of this list. He didn't agree to this stipulation at the time of his indictment. This is changing the rules of the game after the fact. This is not how our judiciary system works.

In my heart I feel there is something wrong here and innocent people will be victims of this list. A few good people that have earned their place back in society will once again be punished and their lives will once again be turned upside down.

scrivener
May 25th, 2005, 09:23 PM
we really don't know just how violent the rape in question was do we? Rape can be as subtle as sex without consent or full on near death experience.

In the case of sex crimes against a minor, the degree of violence is irrelevant. Even if the minor begged, pleaded, offered money, and did all the work, the adult has done violence to the child. I'm not a black-and-white kind of guy in general, but on this issue, there has to be a line.

Whatever the case may be the sentence was just and the man was released after serving his full time of incarceration.

I honestly feel there is a problem and one day someone like this janitor will have a lawsuit in hand for damages incurred because of this list. He didn't agree to this stipulation at the time of his indictment. This is changing the rules of the game after the fact. This is not how our judiciary system works.

I'll go along with that, but even if the general public had no right to easy access to the information, schools would have that right, yes? And this school's leadership evaluated the information and felt the hiring was justified. If it has any guts, it will stand by its decision and stand up to the complaining public. If a school administrator can be convinced that this man belongs at the school, so could everyone else.

In my heart I feel there is something wrong here and innocent people will be victims of this list. A few good people that have earned their place back in society will once again be punished and their lives will once again be turned upside down.

Hang on now. I'm with you on the "in my heart I feel there is something wrong here," but I also believe that the public record needs to remain the public record, and that people who work with children need to be held to higher scrutiny than, say, people who trim trees. I also think describing convicted sex-felons who've paid their debt as "innocent people" is going too far. Once your innocence is gone, it's gone. They may very well be "good people" and they may have "earned their way back into society," but it takes a very, very, very long stretch of the imagination to claim they are innocent. This custodian may have lived an exemplary life for the past thirty years, but no way in hell is he innocent unless the child upon whom he committed his crime can somehow have it undone.

craigwatanabe
May 26th, 2005, 10:33 AM
Yes he's guilty of the crime committed years ago, however further retribution after serving his sentence makes him a victim of that list.

One thing I didn't know about this register is that sexual offenses that garner publication are limited to victim abuse under the age of 14-years. An 18-year old having sex with a 13-year old may be too far in age for a reasonable excuse for a relationship.

I totally agree that an adult committing a sexual crime against a minor should be punished to the point where after incarceration their names should be published for future reference.

What I'm concerned is for those who plea-bargained, went to jail but didn't agree to a later stipulation that was never brought to the table at the time of entering a plea.

It's like being told to wash a car for $20 and after sweating to complete the job, you're told wash 10 more before you get your money. That's where I have a problem with this list.

You watch, somewhere somebody on that list will sue for damages, the State of Hawaii has a record of screwing up on legal issues in the past and I can see this public list doing just that.

Regarding the public release of these names, I do feel that there should be tighter restrictions on just who can see this information. It should be available however those individuals who feel compelled to view it should have to register in order to see those names. I know there are laws to protect the misuse of this list, however human nature will allow anyone to see it, recognize a name and become biased against that person for anything both parties can engage in.

This list should be available on a "Need to Know" basis only.

As far as never being innocent again, I feel a person can be redeemed and return to innocence, forgiveness means just that to forgive or pardon the past and build a better life for all those involved for the future.

If we condemn the world for it's sins, there is no aspect of an innocent future anymore. Jesus forgave us for our sins to allow us to enter the gates of Heaven even after we committed sins against God.

This list condemns all of those on it to a lifetime of Hell on Earth, something Jesus would never agree to, and it something we should also consider before we damn ourselves by making these kinds of judgement calls, for one day it could be either one of us facing our maker and being asked: Do you consider yourself worthy of entering the home of our Lord? A child molester may not get that chance but so may either one of us for judging another to condemnation.

Ask yourself: If it were me that committed a crime against humanity and I learned my lesson and served my time, how would I feel knowing that my life I rebuilt will come crashing down and I cannot rebuild again.

Where's the incentive to try? Where's the incentive to live knowing the rest of your life, the lessons you learned, all meant nothing and that you may as well return to that life of crime for society has damned you again and this time there is no redemption.

Ask yourself those questions because one day it could be you thru some misunderstanding on your part.

This is why I give openly to homeless people wanting a few dollars because one day it could be me asking some self-righteous person for a buck when my luck falls and I can only hope society will have mercy on me when I had mercy on those less fortunate than I.

alohabear
May 26th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Yes he's guilty of the crime committed years ago,
This list condemns all of those on it to a lifetime of Hell on Earth, something Jesus would never agree to, and it something we should also consider before we damn ourselves by making these kinds of judgement calls, for one day it could be either one of us facing our maker and being asked: Do you consider yourself worthy of entering the home of our Lord? A child molester may not get that chance but so may either one of us for judging another to condemnation.

You make a great point about Jesus forgiving our sins...but even priests in the Eyes of the church who commit these type of crimes against children are never allowed to work with children after they are forgiven.

craigwatanabe
May 26th, 2005, 01:20 PM
You have a point there. The difference is that these priests were never convicted because they were never caught until recently. In other words, they never did the time for the crime.

Miulang
May 26th, 2005, 02:44 PM
I can see both sides of the issue. I was sitting in on a workshop for people who are trying to get jobs yesterday and a couple of people told of their frustrations as former felons who did their time but who continue to be discriminated against in their job search.

If they don't answer the question about ever having been convicted of a crime, that raises a yellow flag with potential employers. If they answer yes, they have to explain what they were convicted of, but very often the amount of space they're given doesn't give them any space to write about extenuating circumstances or about any rehab they might have successfully completed. If they lie on the application and say no, they would get fired for falsifying information.

The only people I have problems with are the pedophiles, who really shouldn't be allowed near kids at all after one conviction. But there are lots of other jobs that don't require contact with kids, and if the person has done his time and can prove he has had rehabilitation, I might consider him for another position. I also have problems with people who have been convicted of murder one (they should probably be kept in jail for life with no chance for parole).

Miulang

LikaNui
May 26th, 2005, 03:23 PM
The only people I have problems with are the pedophiles, who really shouldn't be allowed near kids at all after one conviction.
Don't know if you've seen my comments in other threads, but my complaint is with kumu hula and convicted pedophile Chinky Mahoe, who is still allowed to teach hula classes to kids!!!
Arrrrgggghhhh.
:mad:

craigwatanabe
May 27th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Do you know Chinky Mahoe personally? Apparently those parents who allow their children to continue under his guidance feel he is okay with them. I don't know Chinky but I did know his brother the late Chubby Mahoe who was probably the nicest person I've ever met!

1stwahine
May 27th, 2005, 02:11 PM
i've been observing this thread with interest. there's this male coming into MWH for the past several months. he plays with little kids, giving them candies and taking them to riding on his bike. i've brought up my concern with the mother of four of the children. she had already put a stop to them "playing" with him.

i even talked with security about it. he told me, "yeah, i see him taking the kids out for rides." "no can do nothing, he replied." i'm usually good at spotting something amiss...this guy really gives me bad vibes.

do i wait till something happens? do i call the police? how do we know someone is a pedophile unless he has already been convicted as such. i do know that if he or any pedophile harms any of my grandchildren...i would murder without blinking an eye. i would gladly go to prison for life.

Auntie Lynn

Miulang
May 27th, 2005, 02:29 PM
i even talked with security about it. he told me, "yeah, i see him taking the kids out for rides." "no can do nothing, he replied." i'm usually good at spotting something amiss...this guy really gives me bad vibes.

do i wait till something happens? do i call the police? how do we know someone is a pedophile unless he has already been convicted as such. i do know that if he or any pedophile harms any of my grandchildren...i would murder without blinking an eye. i would gladly go to prison for life.

Auntie Lynn
Talk to the mother again. Ask her if she knows the guy. If she doesn't, she should really start being scared for her kids. Tell her to go to MWH security the next time he shows up and have the security cops ask him for identification, etc (just a little harrassment ;) ) just so he knows somebody is watching what he's doing. MWH is private property and he can be cited for trespassing and harrassment if he is warned by security. Then go have somebody take his picture. Take the picture to your buddies in HPD. Ask them to check to see if he has a record. The last thing these buggahs want is for someone to be watching their every move.

Miulang

1stwahine
May 27th, 2005, 02:38 PM
Hey Tita Miulang! Ok, what I really would like to do is punch the guy out...but no can. I'm going to bring it up with security and if they give me the same lame duck answer. i'll call their office and go up the ladder. I'll also let the MWH office know of the situation. They listen, I've always been right on other things.heheheheh

The mother works two jobs as well as some of the other parents. The kids don't get to eat dinner till late at night. I do my best to keep an eye out for them especially for the little ones. Since my grand daughters came from Colorado, the kids play with them in front of my apartment. The guy knows I'm watching him already. When he sees me, he takes a hike.

To take a picture of him is gonna be somewhat difficult. Isn't there a law that prohibits anyone from taking a picture without the person's consent? Eh, what the hell, what he going do to me?

Auntie Lynn

Miulang
May 27th, 2005, 04:32 PM
If he's on private property, there's no reason why somebody who lives on that property can't take his picture. That's what security cameras are for.

You can't nail him if he hasn't done anything, but you need to have pictures just in case something does happen so your buddies in the HPD have a suspect right away. Doesn't your housing association have some sort of safety committee? If not, you should spearhead a movement to start one up, especially with so many kids running around with no adult supervision. The property manager should be concerned about outsiders preying on the keiki in that development.

I think you are right to be suspicious of him if he makes himself scarce whenever he sees you. That right there tells me he's thinking of doing something pilau. If it was all innocent, he would have no problem talking with you if you asked him where he was from and who he knows at MWH. If it's not about him molesting the kids, it might be him asking the kids for information about people in MWH, which would be just as bad.

Miulang

1stwahine
May 27th, 2005, 04:45 PM
If he's on private property, there's no reason why somebody who lives on that property can't take his picture. That's what security cameras are for.

You can't nail him if he hasn't done anything, but you need to have pictures just in case something does happen so your buddies in the HPD have a suspect right away. Doesn't your housing association have some sort of safety committee? If not, you should spearhead a movement to start one up, especially with so many kids running around with no adult supervision. The property manager should be concerned about outsiders preying on the keiki in that development.

I think you are right to be suspicious of him if he makes himself scarce whenever he sees you. That right there tells me he's thinking of doing something pilau. If it was all innocent, he would have no problem talking with you if you asked him where he was from and who he knows at MWH. If it's not about him molesting the kids, it might be him asking the kids for information about people in MWH, which would be just as bad.

Miulang


Tita Miulang, MWH...no security camera's. security guards usually stay talking on the phone or their cell phone too. housing committee finally getting together on some issues. security issues is focused on increasing numbers of gangs here. i have mentioned it. I'm going to ask a friend to do something...before some child gets hurt. it's the right thing to do. if i'm wrong, i'll apologize. if i'm right, i'll be happy that i was aware of the danger. thanks for your advice. Plus, last time I checked, there were 88 sex offenders in my zip code!

Lynn

Miulang
May 27th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Better to be niele now rather than feel guilty later on if something does happen to someone in MWH. Everybody in MWH has to pull together and watch out for each other, like one big ohana.

Like you said long time ago, just because you live in MWH doesn't mean everyone there has to act like they live in low income housing. People in MWH should be proud of where they live and their community. That's the only way you're going to keep the gangs, the drugs and the pedophiles away from there. Low income people get victimized more often than people who have more money because they often feel powerless and helpless. The people in your community need to put away that thinking and start being proud of where they live, after all, they could be living in their cars instead of with a roof over their heads.

Miulang

1stwahine
May 27th, 2005, 05:03 PM
Yep, that's true. When I teach my first cooking class on June 11th, the journey to unite those I reach out to will come true. Whoever takes my class will not only learn cooking. Pride, respect, and survival!

Lynn

alohabear
May 31st, 2005, 05:44 AM
Do you know Chinky Mahoe personally? Apparently those parents who allow their children to continue under his guidance feel he is okay with them. I don't know Chinky but I did know his brother the late Chubby Mahoe who was probably the nicest person I've ever met!




I'm sure Michael Jackson is a very nice man too...but my son wouldn't be allowed near him. A sick man like"Kinky" Mahoe is a time bomb waiting to explode. Just because he is a talented hula master doesn't mean a parent should take a risk with thier child's welfare. If the children were told the truth about his background ....how many would want to join his classes?

Paul
May 31st, 2005, 08:33 AM
This is what I heard has happened to the two individuals in question. They have been removed from the sex offenders list and fully reinstated back into their jobs. I heard they were going to sue the state for putting them on that list so they were promptly taken off. Amazing what the threat of a law suit can do. If I was the guy convicted in 1962, I would still sue the state.

LikaNui
May 31st, 2005, 09:14 AM
Do you know Chinky Mahoe personally?
I met him several times at various events before his conviction; saw him a couple of times at other events after his conviction and avoided speaking with him. I'm one of many people who will walk out of an event if he takes the stage.

Apparently those parents who allow their children to continue under his guidance feel he is okay with them.
Shame on them!

I don't know Chinky but I did know his brother the late Chubby Mahoe who was probably the nicest person I've ever met!
Totally irrelevant. Apples and oranges. If Charles Manson or Adolf Hitler had nice brothers, would that change anything? Heck no!

LikaNui
May 31st, 2005, 09:17 AM
A sick man like "Kinky" Mahoe is a time bomb waiting to explode. Just because he is a talented hula master doesn't mean a parent should take a risk with thier child's welfare. If the children were told the truth about his background ....how many would want to join his classes?
Ooh, I know the answer to that one!:
NONE.

craigwatanabe
June 1st, 2005, 04:31 PM
If the children were told the truth about his background ....how many would want to join his classes?

Apparently there were a few that did feel he was trusted enough.

I had a friend who is a school teacher at a public high school on Oahu in which he was accused of grabbing her breasts! Well when the whole story came out it seems this teacher was holding this female student from attacking another student by grabbing her from behind. In his actions his arms wrapped around her breasts squeezing them as he held her back from brutalizing another student.

It took a court to get the facts out but the parents felt it was necessary (despite witness accounts backing the teacher) to dismiss the case. Yeah the teacher was reinstated but it took about a year for the case to come to trial and during that time the damage was done to the teacher.

As for Michael Jackson, we really don't know what went on behind the doors of Neverland, but one thing we shouldn't do is to judge Jackson with headline hearsay. We simply don't know the facts!

1stwahine
June 3rd, 2005, 04:39 PM
Aloha everyone. I found out that the man that plays with kids at MWH also lurks at Kaiulani School, waiting for the children he plays with, afterschool. It's the last day of school. I have informed Security countless of times and also the board of MWH. I still saw him around.

I finally approached him. I asked his name. "Gavien" he replied. I asked if he was a resident. He answered, "No." He went on to tell me that he knows five families that are residents. I told him if they knew how much he "played" with their children. He had this odd and nerving look that wanted to tell me MYOB!

Of course, I told him out flatly that I found it not normal to see an 40ish-50ish looking male "playing" with children everyday. He told me he was not married and loved kids cause he didn't have any of his own. I told him I will be watching him and no harm of any kind better be done to any child.

The two boy's got off the steering part of the bike and went home. He, walked his bike out of MWH. Was I too cruel? Should I mind my own business? Nah, he got my drift.

Miulang
June 3rd, 2005, 06:36 PM
The two boy's got off the steering part of the bike and went home. He, walked his bike out of MWH. Was I too cruel? Should I mind my own business? Nah, he got my drift.
No, you did exactly the right thing by being so niele. You should tell the principal of the school what's been going on, too, because I think the schools are more concerned about predators hanging around the schools than the security people at MWH.

One other thing you can do...talk to your friends in HPD and tell them your suspicions. You know what he looks like, and he told you his name (maybe). Or go to the sex offenders website and look at the photos and see if you recognize anybody.

If you still see him hanging around MWH, ask him which families he knows. If he can't tell you the family names, or if he can only tell you the kids' first names and not their last names, then for sure he's up to no good, .

Miulang

helen
June 4th, 2005, 12:22 AM
Of course, I told him out flatly that I found it not normal to see an 40ish-50ish looking male "playing" with children everyday. He told me he was not married and loved kids cause he didn't have any of his own. I told him I will be watching him and no harm of any kind better be done to any child.
Would you have done the same thing if this was a 40ish-50ish looking female playing with the children?

Miulang
June 4th, 2005, 06:52 AM
Would you have done the same thing if this was a 40ish-50ish looking female playing with the children?
Most definitely, yes. Women can be sex predators, too, although the incidence of women pedophiles has not been demonstrated to be as prevalent as in males. Most women want to protect kids, not molest them. I also don't know of any female pedophiles who have kidnapped and killed their victims.

Miulang

Cnecki
June 4th, 2005, 06:55 AM
Aloha everyone. I found out that the man that plays with kids at MWH also lurks at Kaiulani School, waiting for the children he plays with, afterschool. It's the last day of school. I have informed Security countless of times and also the board of MWH. I still saw him around.

I finally approached him. I asked his name. "Gavien" he replied. I asked if he was a resident. He answered, "No." He went on to tell me that he knows five families that are residents. I told him if they knew how much he "played" with their children. He had this odd and nerving look that wanted to tell me MYOB!

Of course, I told him out flatly that I found it not normal to see an 40ish-50ish looking male "playing" with children everyday. He told me he was not married and loved kids cause he didn't have any of his own. I told him I will be watching him and no harm of any kind better be done to any child.

The two boy's got off the steering part of the bike and went home. He, walked his bike out of MWH. Was I too cruel? Should I mind my own business? Nah, he got my drift.

THANK YOU !! My children will be spending alot of time with their Granny in MRH starting in July. It is great you are aware of outsiders and funny situations. Thanks for being safe rather than sorry. (Mother of 4 Children) Cnecki

1stwahine
June 4th, 2005, 12:54 PM
Would you have done the same thing if this was a 40ish-50ish looking female playing with the children?

Yes, Helen. The circumstances surronding this sitiuation is for any gender and age group. If I see something suspicious, I get the facts and report. Anyone, who is not a resident of MHW becomes suspect if anything occurs. Most of the cases this past year were non-residents.

How unfortunate that we do have sickos that want to harm our children. I'd rather take whatever punches and hits before a child is hurt. Yes, I am being ne'e'le, as Miulang wrote...better to be safe than sorry.

Last night the children and youths had their first Summer Dance. Residents walked and watched the areas so that our kids were safe. We also have a Community Walk Patrol now that are trained to look for suspicious activities. We are slowly finally coming together........

waveluv
June 30th, 2005, 12:24 PM
My daughter starts K in 4 weeks. Can someone please tell me how I can look this up at her school?

kimo55
June 30th, 2005, 12:31 PM
My daughter starts K in 4 weeks. Can someone please tell me how I can look this up at her school?

well obviously, the school should be able to. You should be very familiar with the school your daughter will be attending.
meet the teachers, principle, etc. ask what they do in case of emergency. trade phone nmbers. ask about the sex offd thing. discuss it with them. do NOT remain in the dark regarding any aspect of an institution that your daughter will be spending much important influencial, life forming time at.

LikaNui
June 30th, 2005, 12:38 PM
My daughter starts K in 4 weeks. Can someone please tell me how I can look this up at her school?
Easy. Go to http://sexoffenders.hawaii.gov/ and search by zip code.
Also...
Found kumu hula Chinky Mahoe there at http://sexoffenders.hawaii.gov/detail.jsp?SOR=A0109123
:mad:

1stwahine
June 30th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Thanks for the Link LikaNui,...I had forgotten where. The last time I checked my zipcode, sex offenders were eighty-eight. Today, it has hit one-hundred! Auwe! :eek:

Auntie Lynn aka Auntie Pupule

Miulang
June 30th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Thanks for the Link LikaNui,...I had forgotten where. The last time I checked my zipcode, sex offenders were eighty-eight. Today, it has hit one-hundred! Auwe! :eek:

Auntie Lynn aka Auntie Pupule
Eh, Tita: I keep forgetting to ask you, is that guy Davion still hanging out at MWH? Or did what you tell him that one time make him "take his business" someplace else?

Miulang

1stwahine
June 30th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Eh, Tita: I keep forgetting to ask you, is that guy Davion still hanging out at MWH? Or did what you tell him that one time make him "take his business" someplace else?

Miulang

No, he tried coming back unto the property, I went up to him and he said something so I uhhh...protected the kids in a way by...forcefully doing something. The old Lynn kinda sneaked up and took over. I hate violence but sometimes one gotta do what one gotta do to get the message across. The last I seen him is across of Akepo Arms hanging out. Other residents and parents are on the look out not only for him but anyone that could harm any child living here or visiting here. There are several Youth Groups and the bigger ones also lend a hand in watching out for Child Predators.

Miulang
July 1st, 2005, 06:02 AM
No, he tried coming back unto the property, I went up to him and he said something so I uhhh...protected the kids in a way by...forcefully doing something. The old Lynn kinda sneaked up and took over. I hate violence but sometimes one gotta do what one gotta do to get the message across. The last I seen him is across of Akepo Arms hanging out. Other residents and parents are on the look out not only for him but anyone that could harm any child living here or visiting here. There are several Youth Groups and the bigger ones also lend a hand in watching out for Child Predators.
Heh. I can imagine what "force" you used to get him to stay away! :D

Miulang