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Glen Miyashiro
July 13th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Current stats: Threads: 2,567, Posts: 25,780, Members: 1,369
But then I decided to total up the posts written by the top 10 posters:

2,311 Miulang
2,190 kimo55
2,088 pzarquon
1,271 craigwatanabe
1,161 1stwahine
1,049 helen
1,016 mel
984 Glen Miyashiro
893 adri1456
695 Linkmeister
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13,658

So the top 10 (me included) wrote more than half the posts here. Ho, motormouth, yeah? :D

1stwahine
July 13th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Glen, You are sooo FUNNY! I get excuse...I'm motormouth/manic/pupule! LOL

Aunty Lynn aka Auntie Pupule

pzarquon
July 14th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Well, I should be up there. Helen and Mel, too, for obvious reasons.

Miulang? Well, in lieu of a blog, she just collects all her Bush and Wal-Mart articles here. She owns entire threads!

Kimo? Well, he replies to himself half the time.

Lynn? Heck, she can't stop explaining in graphic detail why she's ranked so high!

But Craig? I haven't got an excuse for you. But that's okay. We love you anyway.

scrivener
July 14th, 2005, 12:38 AM
I think these top-tenners should be commended. Seriously; whatever their motivations or reasons for being so prolific, this place is propelled by posts, and sure, there may be a higher noise-to-signal ratio for some of us than others, but that's fine. I do my best to keep my contributions "quality," but the truth is that if I keep my mouth shut while others are tossing stuff out there, they're contributing and I'm not. That's actually why I think "me too" posts should NOT be discouraged here. Someone posts something and if nobody's got anything to say but "me too," if they don't post their "me too," the original poster has no idea whether he or she has contributed anything or not. That "word, brutha" all by itself is encouragement enough for me to keep going, especially if I post something (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=5535) that took a fair amount of thought and time to type up.

My favorite fellow posters for various reasons are Glen Miyashiro, Surfingfarmboy, ZZType, Albert, and Kupomog (that avatar is so cute!), but I honestly value, just for their contributions alone, everyone in this top ten list for keeping it moving.

jdub
July 14th, 2005, 02:59 AM
i haint been here fer but a couple of months, but i stick around to hear what yall have to say...and for the chance to put my two cents in and have my opinions acknowledged, if not validated...actually, it's a whole helluva lot like a rock and roll band...without the free beer...

Glen Miyashiro
July 14th, 2005, 08:53 AM
But Craig? I haven't got an excuse for you. But that's okay. We love you anyway.Easy. Craig's enjoying his early retirement. Maybe for him this is the 21st century version of the town barbershop where all the old geezers hang out and chew the fat!

kimo55
July 14th, 2005, 09:18 AM
Kimo? Well, he replies to himself half the time.



yep. I am my own "me too" posts.

craigwatanabe
July 14th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Thanks Glen....for this insight. Unless you pointed this thread I'd never have known about all the talk.

Yeah I'm a motormouth, it all started when my mom refused to let me speak my side of the story as a child getting into trouble. Well after I became an adult I figured if I had something to say....damn it I'd say it! And the rest is history.

I pity my poor kids when I have to give them a lecture. If I can't spank them, I'd break them down by virtue of my version of a fillibuster. My longest lecture was 2-1/2 hours.

I love to talk that's why I've worked in radio for as long as I've been an adult.

As to why I'm seemingly on this board at all hours is simply because I am in an early retirement at age 45 and loving it. Plus being stuck out here in Keaau in the boonies, I don't get much chance to get out and chat with my friends in Honolulu, so guess what...you guys are it!

The dangerous part of this whole thing is that I'm old enough to speak with lots of experience yet young enough to still be there to keep up with you youngsters until you get to be my age and still working. By then I'll really be an old geezer with computer skills that'll be rambling some nonsense now and then. The only thing that stops me is when I have to pick up my kids from school or when I gotta take a break cuz my arthritis in my hands are killing me.

So in closing (finally) thank you Mel for getting me in on this message board via the Hawaii Radio and TV guide (Mel's website) and thank you Glen for letting me know I'm one of the top ten posters. I'll take that as an honor :D

scrivener
July 14th, 2005, 06:28 PM
As to why I'm seemingly on this board at all hours is simply because I am in an early retirement at age 45 and loving it. Plus being stuck out here in Keaau in the boonies, I don't get much chance to get out and chat with my friends in Honolulu, so guess what...you guys are it!
I was going to say exactly this after Pz's post yesterday! I actually typed it up and as I always do before I hit "submit reply," I asked myself if someone might possibly be offended by what I wrote. I decided someone might, so I didn't post. I'm glad I didn't, 'cause you said it a lot nicer than I tried to!

We're all jealous of you, Craig. Well, most of us, I guess.

craigwatanabe
July 15th, 2005, 11:21 AM
Well if you guys sold your megabucks homes in Honolulu, took half of it and buy an equivalent home if not more in value in Keaau and invested the rest, you too could be a motormouth in early retirement while living in Hawaii.

To me all that hard work has paid off and I'm enjoying the benefits of retirement at an age where I can still appreciate it. Plus when I turn 65 I'll start receiving my pension, annuity, 401k, IRA and what's left of Social Security. That's the icing on the cake. :D

And to think it happened under the Bush Administration... :eek:

Glen Miyashiro
July 15th, 2005, 11:23 AM
To me all that hard work has paid off and I'm enjoying the benefits of retirement at an age where I can still appreciate it. Plus when I turn 65 I'll start receiving my pension, annuity, 401k, IRA and what's left of Social Security. That's the icing on the cake. :D

And to think it happened under the Bush Administration... :eek:Yeah Craig, but don't forget that you made most of those big bucks of yours while under the Clinton administration! :D

scrivener
July 15th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Megabuck homes? Excuse me; I don't believe we've met. I'm Mitchell. A teacher at small private high school. I make $31K a year and am still paying for college.

craigwatanabe
July 15th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Believe it or not $31K will go very far in homeownership here in Keaau. As a matter of fact your income is considered decent over here.

When I meant megabucks I meant that a decent home in a decent location on Oahu will cost you somewhere between $500,000 to $900,000 in East Oahu. Or if in Kapolei...$350,000 to $500,000. In either scenerio, a $350,000 purchase in Keaau can get you at least twice as much bling as what you'd get in Kapolei.

If you live in East Oahu and typically own a $600,000 home, you could literally buy a $300,000 home of similar amenities in Hawaiian Paradise Parks subdivision and invest the rest.

And no I didn't make much of it during Clinton's admin. As a matter of fact I lost most of it in the wake of 9/11 and rebuilt my wealth thereafter in aggressive growth funds.

I struggled when I lived in Honolulu working two jobs and renting. When people say, "I can't save because I'm living from paycheck to paycheck" I ask them if they have a budget plan. Typically they say no and I tell them that's why they're living one paycheck away from homelessness. Poor money management.

If you start a savings program, lenders look at you with a bit more credance and you get a lower interest rate when applying for a loan such as a mortgage. How much you save isn't as important as showing that you have the discipline to save. That's what lenders look for.

How many of us scream because we don't have enough money yet we find ourselves eating out everyday instead of packing a home lunch? My 21-year old tells me he's having a hard time living on his own and has us subsidizing his income with an allowance every month. In his mind going to a movie with his friends twice a week and going to Dave and Buster's once a week is okay yet if he tallied his entertainent costs it usually came out to about $80 a week! That's $240 a month more than he can afford. He buys lunch everyday running about $6.00 a day including weekends.

Come on do the math that's $168.00 a month in lunches alone for one person. If he packed a lunch he'd save over half of his lunch costs. He buys at least two soda's at $1.25 each per day not including lunch coming out to $70.00 per month! His daily lunches and drinks plus his weekly entertainment costs rack up to a hefty $578.00 per month! My goodness and he says he doesn't have enough money to save and wants me to subsidize his lifestyle?

If you got enough money to entertain yourself or buy lunch everyday, then you have enough to save and eventually realize your dreams.

Keaau out here on the Big Island gave me a 20-year headstart in realizing those dreams and I've been telling all on this board that it can happen to you too. My life two years ago was a financial hell in Honolulu but since moving here life has been pure bliss. No magic get rich scheme, just a readjusting of my priorities.

adrian
July 15th, 2005, 01:42 PM
That's nothing.

If we had a more diverse topic area and more members, I could have reached 2,000 posts in a year (like what I did in other forums.)

kimo55
July 15th, 2005, 02:58 PM
That's nothing.

If I had a solid gold toilet and a thousand kajillion million hundred dollars, I could be king of the universe. (like what I did in other alternate worlds.)




_____________________
Visit my frog today!
In fact, right now, gawdammit!

craigwatanabe
July 16th, 2005, 09:28 AM
Ahhh but Kimo, if I controlled the toilet paper even your Majesty would be at my mercy. :D That is unless you're Iranian who wipes his okole with his left hand instead.

kimo55
July 16th, 2005, 09:34 AM
Ahhh but Kimo, if I controlled the toilet paper even your Majesty would be at my mercy. :D That is unless you're Iranian who wipes his okole with his left hand instead.
you may be my court jester. If you promise not to do iranian jokes.

craigwatanabe
July 16th, 2005, 10:13 AM
So there were these two Iranians walking down the dirt road... :D

MadAzza
July 16th, 2005, 03:27 PM
How many of us scream because we don't have enough money yet we find ourselves eating out everyday instead of packing a home lunch?

What gets me is when certain people complain about not being able to afford housing, but they always have money for cigarettes and/or beer. Maybe that's why people who hang out in dive bars *look like* people who hang out in dive bars. Yes, sometimes it is a matter of priorities. And yeah, sometimes it just sucks not having much and you want to go someplace and forget about it all for awhile.

kimo55
July 16th, 2005, 06:22 PM
So there were these two Iranians walking down the dirt road... :D
off with his head.


but wait.
OK, two iranians walking down da street. They both walk into a bar. Which is stupid, cuz if one walked into the bar the other woulda seen it and walked around it.

craigwatanabe
July 16th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Unless it was a holy bar!

helen
August 3rd, 2005, 06:05 PM
That's nothing.

If we had a more diverse topic area and more members, I could have reached 2,000 posts in a year (like what I did in other forums.)

What kind of topic area(s) should this place add?

As far as members are concerned has anyone looked at the Members List latey? It's up to 40 pages now. At 30 people per page that's close to 1,200 members. The problem is at least 540 people signed up, regisistered and never tried to post a message here. Why? I don't have a clue.

scrivener
August 3rd, 2005, 09:14 PM
'Cuz Kimo and Madazza scared 'em all off! :p





Joke. Just a joke. Seriously.

lurkah
August 3rd, 2005, 10:30 PM
'Cuz Kimo and Madazza scared 'em all off! :p

Joke. Just a joke. Seriously.
I guess Kimo and Madazza scaring them off could be viewed as a kind of separating of the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

It begs the question, though, are those who were scared away to be considered as the chaff, or the wheat? :p

Eh, I only joking too. I think I going have me some Wheaties now. :D

MadAzza
August 3rd, 2005, 11:23 PM
'Cuz Kimo and Madazza scared 'em all off! :p





Joke. Just a joke. Seriously.

That is so funny, because earlier today I almost posted "Because Kimo and Palolo Joe scared 'em all off!"

I'm cracking up laughing!

scrivener
August 4th, 2005, 12:19 AM
. . . I'm sure there's room on the welcoming committee for all three of you! ;)

Palolo Joe
August 4th, 2005, 01:13 AM
Never really had a problem with a newbie... it's generally the people who have been here a while and start to think they know everything. Or the ones who act all hypocritical, then get their panties in a bunch even more when I call them on it.

Glen Miyashiro
September 6th, 2005, 02:52 PM
An update:

Threads: 3,039, Posts: 32,986, Members: 1,594

Top posters:

3,043 Miulang
2,918 kimo55
2,332 pzarquon
1,492 craigwatanabe
1,460 1stwahine
1,403 Glen Miyashiro
1,272 helen
1,117 mel
1,088 doc1456
746 Linkmeister
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16,871

So it's been evening out a little -- the top 10 posters only account for 51% of all posts, rather than 53% three months ago. It's still the same 10 motormouths, though. :p

scrivener
September 6th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Glen, where do you get the stats? I'm not finding them.

kimo55
September 6th, 2005, 03:24 PM
member list, clik on posts.

Glen Miyashiro
September 6th, 2005, 03:25 PM
The aggregate numbers are from the bottom of the front page (http://www.hawaiithreads.com). The top ten figures are from the Members List, sorted by Posts (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/memberlist.php?postslower=0&postsupper=0&ausername=&homepage=&icq=&aim=&yahoo=&msn=&joindateafter=&joindatebefore=&lastpostafter=&lastpostbefore=&order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=30&ltr=). I add the top ten up by hand.

mel
September 6th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Some people become motormouths faster than others. One distinguishing characteristic of all of them, is that most joined in 2004. The ones with later join dates indicate a shorter time to motormouth status.

Don't know if this means anything, but I have also gone through the list and posted the next 10 contenders for motormouth.

Top posters:

3,043 Miulang - August 21st, 2004
2,918 kimo55 - August 10th, 2004
2,332 pzarquon - April 12th, 2004
1,492 craigwatanabe - May 10th, 2004
1,460 1stwahine - December 15th, 2004
1,403 Glen Miyashiro - April 12th, 2004
1,272 helen - April 12th, 2004
1,117 mel - April 13th, 2004
1,088 doc1456 - May 9th, 2004
746 Linkmeister - June 3rd, 2004

Top 10 contenders:

642 scrivener - April 26th, 2004
629 Albert - April 14th, 2004
619 LikaNui - May 6th, 2004
526 Aaron S - August 2nd, 2004
361 lurkah - June 17th, 2004
355 Palolo Joe - July 16th, 2004
344 Mocha - May 17th, 2004
343 Serenity - June 23rd, 2004
320 cezanne - August 4th, 2004
301 Buddy2 - March 24th, 2005

Most of the next 10 have a while to go before making it to the top 10. Still it will be interesting just to keep track of this to see if there is any drastic change on both lists.

Palolo Joe
September 7th, 2005, 02:26 PM
As long as some of the top 10 motormouths keep posting the same stuff over and over again to increase their post counts, you won't see much change.

Only thing that will happen is some of the newer members, with their "me toos" and "atta boys," will crack the top 10 as they flood the site with useless posts.

What's the motivation? For some, I think it's the prospect of wielding more power with the reputation function of the board. The bigger post whore you are, the more weight your reputation votes carry.

Glen Miyashiro
September 7th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Maybe. As for me, I just like talking story.

Palolo Joe
September 7th, 2005, 02:39 PM
Maybe. As for me, I just like talking story.
Ain't nothing wrong with talking story... I just think some people have other motives when they hit that "post" button. And it shows in the motormouth statistics.

Miulang
September 7th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Ain't nothing wrong with talking story... I just think some people have other motives when they hit that "post" button. And it shows in the motormouth statistics.
No Joe, you're just envious. Most of the time I don't post pointless posts like you do. Most of the time I do have things to say as opposed to you trying to play like a cat covering up his caca. I've noticed that only recently have you actually started acting like the intelligent person I always knew you were. And now that I've acknowledged your intelligence you can stop inflating everyone else's ratings just so you can try to ding me. Thankyoueverso.

Miulang

Palolo Joe
September 7th, 2005, 02:52 PM
No Joe, you're just envious. Most of the time I don't post pointless posts like you do. Most of the time I do have things to say as opposed to you trying to play like a cat covering up his caca. I've noticed that only recently have you actually started acting like the intelligent person I always knew you were.
Did your name somehow come out of my fingers and into one of my posts in this thread without me realizing it?

I didn't single you out, and yet you want to step up and sling some shit my way. Fine - you are a prime example of what constitutes a post whore.

I've made intelligent posts from the first day I signed up. I could care less if you read any of them, but you can easily go look them up if you wanted to.

Like how you wrote in another thread recently: If you show respect, you get respect. A lot of the crap you post is this high-and-mighty political bullshit that you spew from your high horse on the mainland, telling us how "our" government is screwing up and "our" people should be doing more to protect the culture.

Take another swing at me, Miulang. I've got no problem mixing it up with you.

Miulang
September 7th, 2005, 02:55 PM
Like how you wrote in another thread recently: If you show respect, you get respect. A lot of the crap you post is this high-and-mighty political bullshit that you spew from your high horse on the mainland, telling us how "our" government is screwing up and "our" people should be doing more to protect the culture.
bahahahah! I already got the hint from Glen who told it to me directly.

Miulang

helen
September 7th, 2005, 05:57 PM
As long as some of the top 10 motormouths keep posting the same stuff over and over again to increase their post counts, you won't see much change.

Well I guess I am busted for most of the time going on a Saturday to Mahalo Drive Inn and then reporting that I ate a BBQ Chicken and Hamburger Steak plate lunch, with a Mountain Dew.

Only thing that will happen is some of the newer members, with their "me toos" and "atta boys," will crack the top 10 as they flood the site with useless posts.

Properly used the Reputation system should minimize that type of post as well as the "thanks for the info" responses, in fact that would be the better way of doing things and save on the post counts.


What's the motivation? For some, I think it's the prospect of wielding more power with the reputation function of the board. The bigger post whore you are, the more weight your reputation votes carry.

Parts of this I have to disagree with you, it seems the majority of the registrated user base seem to be mostly unaware of the Reputation system until two months ago.

And by the way either term motormouth or post whore doesn't accurately describe people who post a lot. We are not talking, we are typing so motorfingers might be a better term to use and a whore kind of means one gets paid for the service. So unless the rest of you are getting paid for your posting then were do I sign up to get paid for the 1200+ posts I have done over the year?

craigwatanabe
September 9th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Hey Palolo Joe, inadvertantly your post count is getting up there too by virtue of responding to the rest of us motormouths. :D

You call it being a motormouth, I call it the gift of gab. That's why I'm the radio guy. If you notice my posts are all over this website not just primarily limited to any one topic like WalMart (oops sorry Miulang).

The reason why I talk talk talk forever and a day is because I'm in early retirement and have the entire day and night right thru the morning to post away. I don't have to get up early to go to work, I don't have to go to bed early to wake up for work the next day.

But the biggest reason why I'm a motormouth is simply because...I live out in the boonies with no one else to bug the hell out of (even you :o ) This board and all of you guys out there have replaced the lunch room and the water cooler for the place to talk story. And I appreciate you divesting in everything we have to say.

Mahalo Palolo Joe...you my friend and I love you for that...big hug!!!

Okay all the mushiness aside, eh braddah Palolo Joe...tanks eh for all dakine talk ladat. You no ka oi in my book...okay you share em with Sistah Miulang cuz she wen send me da coffee grinda!

Alright I just added another post to my count!!! And it's only 6pm with the weekend coming up tomorrow!! :D

Palolo Joe
September 9th, 2005, 06:14 PM
You call it being a motormouth, I call it the gift of gab. That's why I'm the radio guy.
I only get 300-something posts in a year of being around these parts. I got quite a ways to go. :D

Brah, I did my time in radio (before I wised up... :eek: ) and am even part Portagee, so I'm not complaining about people who have something meaningful to say.

To each their own, but I don't appreciate the clutter of posts that are just wiseass remarks, or the "yeah, me too" kind of stuff. That, and the few in particular who post variations of a theme - making the same point over and over again, just worded differently each time.

It really cracks me up though, the people who want to attribute the terms "motormouth" and "post whore" to me.

I didn't start this thread. Anyone with Internet message board experience has to have heard "post whore" used elsewhere.

As much I'd love to take credit for it, them words ain't mine. But they accurately describe what's going on.

I'm glad this place gives you the opportunity to interact with the rest of us here on Oahu and elsewhere Craig. It wouldn't be the same without you either! :cool:

craigwatanabe
September 12th, 2005, 04:31 PM
Eh tanks braddah Palolo Joe, I feel all dakine now...you know like get one piece dust stay in my eyeball...but I no stay crying ladat! :(

But pretty soon...even you goin get 4 chicklets! :D Better stay away from the Tiny threads if you no like get one reputation of being one motormouth too! :D :D

Eh Miulang where you stay...try come to da Hawaii radio threads, get some major action going there.

Miulang
September 12th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Eh Miulang where you stay...try come to da Hawaii radio threads, get some major action going there.
I'm trying to learn about all the new bells and whistles I have on my new P4 CPU. My old CPU locked up (probably spyware) over the weekend,
and since it was already about 5 years old (running Win98 :eek: ), I decided to trade up to new technology. So now I've got WinXP, a PCI card and wireless router and I'm no longer on dialup (Yay!). Nowadays, the OEM computers don't seem to come loaded with the Office Suite that I'm used to using, but they are loaded with the comparable Corel Suite (WordPerfect, etc.) that is pretty nifty because it allows you to format stuff as MS.docs. I needed a better computer anyway because I'm going back to night school too for 9 months to get a Project Managers certificate from UW (I should know which section I'll be in in the next 2 weeks). By the time I finish that program, I should be able to get a better job and make more money with that professional PMP certificate.

And now that I've got broadband (thanks to my kane, who's letting me share his connection), I can play those interactive and VR games, so I might not be doing as much posting here (much to PJ's relief, I'm sure :) ) if I get as hooked on being in THERE (VR) as my kane is.

Miulang

craigwatanabe
September 12th, 2005, 06:08 PM
I'm trying to learn about all the new bells and whistles I have on my new P4 CPU.

Miulang

Is that all you're wearing? Just make sure you're wearing clean underwear cuz you never know when you'll crash your hard drive :D Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha :eek:

By the way Windows XP is old news with Media Edition out and by the end of this year the much awaited "Vista" will replace both of them as Microsoft's premier OS. Vista is the Beta name for the anticipated OS codenamed "Longhorn" and they cleaned up XP really nicely.

Fondoo2
September 21st, 2005, 12:52 PM
A member took the time to send me an anonymous disaproval vote and this message "luv your spirit, fondoo, but you dont need to posts lols and thxs and me toos."So I'm looking for enlightenment.Is it bad forum edicate to posts these things?Does it mess something up?Personely I like when a person takes the time to post thank you,I agree with you or "that was funny"But I am not a long time forum user so may I have some input?

helen
September 21st, 2005, 01:04 PM
My 2 cents on the matter. If you come across a post that your only reaction to it is to say thank you, it would be best to award reputation to that post instead. If you want to say thank you in the comments text box you can do that too.

pzarquon
September 21st, 2005, 01:32 PM
Back in the days when AOL users were the greatest threat to civilized conversation on line, there developed a long list of quintessential "bad posts." I tend to lump them under the "Me Too Post (http://www.inertramblings.com/archives/000433.html)" family. In short, it's really not neccessary to add noise to a conversation to say "Me too!" Or, "LOL, THX!" Or, "Ho, funny, yah?"

If you feel compelled to say something so brief, you can send the author a message directly. But if you just can't resist posting publicly, make it a point to think up and include something else... some other, new contribution to the conversation at hand. Keep the thread going, and help keep it from getting mired in an avalanche of "Me Too Posts" and other off-topic tangents.

My friends and I also have a strong dislike of LOL, the use of "2" to replace "to," and other aberrations of online discourse. This is more a fuddy-duddy issue (kids these days can carry on whole conversations without using a single full word), and a matter of taste, though... especially since I use acronyms like NSFW, IANAL, and FWIW. :p

And, FWIW, the signal-to-noise issue alone was the primary reason for this kind of online etiquette. But on message boards, and as this thread exhibits, post counts are worn as a badge of honor. Someone who posts lots of "Me Too Posts," then, is conceivably not just wasting bytes, but also trying to inflate their counts.

You will find, though, that this aspect matters to only a small subset of community members, and really, folks are mostly concerned with keeping the signal-to-noise ratio high and preventing topic drift.

Palolo Joe
September 21st, 2005, 02:35 PM
Ryan said it better than I could have... and no, it wasn't me who left that message. Although I was beginning to notice that Fondoo was posting more of those particular kinds of posts.

I also agree with Helen - it's better to show your agreement with reputation points than by bloating your post count.

Fondoo2
September 21st, 2005, 02:41 PM
The whole post count thing is such a joke,and the fact that saying publicly thank you is put in that box is an even bigger one.Just my .02
Thank you for bringing me up to speed because I do want to be respectfull to the folks that provide this forum with there time and $$

Glen Miyashiro
September 21st, 2005, 03:18 PM
Back in the days when AOL users were the greatest threat to civilized conversation on line, there developed a long list of quintessential "bad posts." I tend to lump them under the "Me Too Post (http://www.inertramblings.com/archives/000433.html)" family. In short, it's really not neccessary to add noise to a conversation to say "Me too!" Or, "LOL, THX!" Or, "Ho, funny, yah?"In the Old Days, bandwidth was a much bigger concern -- folks didn't want to waste time on their 1200 baud modems downloading a lengthy quote followed by a "Yes, I agree!" These days, with broadband connections (and threaded conversation software like this) it's not as much of an issue.

If you feel compelled to say something so brief, you can send the author a message directly. But if you just can't resist posting publicly, make it a point to think up and include something else... some other, new contribution to the conversation at hand. Keep the thread going, and help keep it from getting mired in an avalanche of "Me Too Posts" and other off-topic tangents.I don't think that brief "me too" statements are all that bad. As scrivener said early on in this thread, That's actually why I think "me too" posts should NOT be discouraged here. Someone posts something and if nobody's got anything to say but "me too," if they don't post their "me too," the original poster has no idea whether he or she has contributed anything or not. That "word, brutha" all by itself is encouragement enough for me to keep going, especially if I post something that took a fair amount of thought and time to type up.Sure, you can also do it with Reputation points, but that's not a public acknowledgement of your appreciation.

My friends and I also have a strong dislike of LOL, the use of "2" to replace "to," and other aberrations of online discourse. This is more a fuddy-duddy issue (kids these days can carry on whole conversations without using a single full word), and a matter of taste, though... especially since I use acronyms like NSFW, IANAL, and FWIW. :pI too get annoyed by IM-speak like LOL, GTG, CUL8R, etc., but yeah, it probably is a generational thing.

As for the acronyms, they can be a bit much at times, IYKWIM (AITYD). OTOH sometimes you just gotta tell 'em to RTFM.

scrivener
September 21st, 2005, 03:24 PM
These days, with broadband connections (and threaded conversation software like this) it's not as much of an issue.
Word, brutha.

pzarquon
September 21st, 2005, 03:54 PM
Ha ha, Scrivener.

Posts of agreement and thanks aren't all bad, okay? We all know, I'm sure, the pain of a brillant new thread idea that absolutely no one responds to. And yes, sometimes someone says something so brilliant, you have to give public props. (Ugh, I said 'props.')

But, c'mon, how hard is it to use that big giant "Reply" box as an opportunity to move things forward again, not just plunk another stake into the same spot? Instead of just, "Me too!" Why not, "Me too! In fact, now that I think about it, I've noticed..."

In the Old Days, bandwidth was a much bigger concern -- folks didn't want to waste time on their 1200 baud modems downloading a lengthy quote followed by a "Yes, I agree!" These days, with broadband connections (and threaded conversation software like this) it's not as much of an issue.I know what you're saying, but practically speaking, I respectfully disagree.

Sure, technically, there's no difference these days between a 200k webpage and a 1200k webpage, but I'd still rather not waste time or energy reading through posts that don't offer much substance. Just like quoting five paragraphs just to add a sentence, or even getting an e-mail that's 90 percent old stuff (going on for seemingly miles of > and >> and >>> marks) with one word of reply added in... it's just good practice to reduce clutter.

helen
September 21st, 2005, 07:46 PM
Sure, you can also do it with Reputation points, but that's not a public acknowledgement of your appreciation.
While I would prefer the private one, I suppose backing it up with a public one would be okay too, however why stop at only one public thank you for the post? Why would the first one to say thank you speak for the entire user base?

I too get annoyed by IM-speak like LOL, GTG, CUL8R, etc., but yeah, it probably is a generational thing. As for the acronyms, they can be a bit much at times, IYKWIM (AITYD). OTOH sometimes you just gotta tell 'em to RTFM.
This part I can agree with you here. Of course it's not RTFM but rather RTFF (second F stands for FAQ).

Palolo Joe
September 21st, 2005, 08:48 PM
The whole post count thing is such a joke,and the fact that saying publicly thank you is put in that box is an even bigger one.Just my .02
Well, I think some of the "me too" posts you've been making lately were pretty stupid. Just my two cents.

But if I were to pop up in every thread and post, "Hey - I think what you just said is pretty stupid," that would just end up pissing off more people here on HT. Strategic shutting of your mouth (or fingers, in this case) goes both ways.

If you're going to contribute something to the discussion, feel free... but please don't clutter things up with pointless drivel.

Fondoo2
September 21st, 2005, 09:53 PM
Well, I think some of the "me too" posts you've been making lately were pretty stupid. Just my two cents.

But if I were to pop up in every thread and post, "Hey - I think what you just said is pretty stupid," that would just end up pissing off more people here on HT. Strategic shutting of your mouth (or fingers, in this case) goes both ways.

If you're going to contribute something to the discussion, feel free... but please don't clutter things up with pointless drivel.

dude do you think I killed your puppy or something? What an attack for the horrible thank you's and such things I have been "driveling" along those lines,whats really going on hmmmm?
anyway some of the responses I have read on this thread have more heart IMO(in my opinion) and you can take your mean spirited response and place it firmly in the place we all have and the sun never shines
I am going to post how I feel even if it's just a thank you,and take your chicklet/post count theory and tell it to Fondoo2 who you will no doubt meet very soon

Palolo Joe
September 21st, 2005, 10:29 PM
dude do you think I killed your puppy or something? What an attack for the horrible thank you's and such things I have been "driveling" along those lines,whats really going on hmmmm?
anyway some of the responses I have read on this thread have more heart IMO(in my opinion) and you can take your mean spirited response and place it firmly in the place we all have and the sun never shines
I am going to post how I feel even if it's just a thank you,and take your chicklet/post count theory and tell it to Fondoo2 who you will no doubt meet very soon
Dude, that wasn't even an attack. You posted your ".02" and so did I.

If you don't like what I have to say, tough. It's my opinion, and I'm going to put it out there whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

Go ahead and post your thank yous. I'll go ahead and post when I think what you're saying is stupid.

Looking forward to meeting Fondoo2... I'll still be here. Don't worry.

*edit* Ahahahaha... and thanks for the "faak you" on my reputation page. Got a good laugh out of it. Makes me wonder if fondoo2=kahalabrah... :eek:

admin
September 22nd, 2005, 05:32 AM
I am going to post how I feel even if it's just a thank you,and take your chicklet/post count theory and tell it to Fondoo2 who you will no doubt meet very soonSorry, Fondoo/Fondoo2. I'm happy to change usernames upon request, but you can't have two IDs on the system, or erase your history with our community. I've merged your accounts, as I've PMed you, and you are now the "new and improved," but still strangely familiar, Fondoo2.

No one says you have to use the Reputation system or pay any attention to post counts or titles if you don't want to.

If you or others have any questions about this, please PM me directly.

FWIW, Palolo Joe didn't say anything others have already said, he just said it more bluntly and directly. Some people think posting just to say "Thank You" is a waste of time and space. Others don't. You asked (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showpost.php?p=41173&postcount=45), after all.

Fondoo2
September 22nd, 2005, 07:58 AM
*edit* Ahahahaha... and thanks for the "faak you" on my reputation page. Got a good laugh out of it. Makes me wonder if fondoo2=kahalabrah... :eek:
umm hey bud I reply to you in public and find you unworthy of a personel private message and also have the class to sighn any remarks I make, so look elsware for you IM's of dislike moving on.....

admin
September 22nd, 2005, 08:03 AM
That's enough. Keep your personal grudges out of threads.

Fondoo2
September 22nd, 2005, 09:44 AM
"I'm happy to change usernames upon request, but you can't have two IDs on the system,**** or erase your history with our community****

"you from the Guv'ment? My daddy told me to shoot anyone from the Guv'ment...."
"No boy I aint from the guvment"
"You from the bank then? My daddy told me to shoot anyone from the bank too..."



Dissclaimer;
The above posted quote is an attempt at humor and does not reflect the authors true feelings of respect for the admins of this board ;)

Palolo Joe
September 22nd, 2005, 04:18 PM
Dissclaimer;
The above posted quote is an attempt at humor and does not reflect the authors true feelings of respect for the admins of this board ;)
What a lame attempt at humor...

Fondoo2
September 22nd, 2005, 04:39 PM
That's enough. Keep your personal grudges out of threads.

moving on....

Fondoo2
September 22nd, 2005, 06:17 PM
People who try to make all "Live Aloha" while continuing with backhanded, antagonistic remarks piss me off.

having never lived in Hawaii I couldn't say I even really know what "Live Aloha" truely means or how I would begin to "live it"

1.the feeling Palolo Joe doesn't want to be my friend
2.the fact I still can't decide to put him on ignore or not
3.I have such little skill with the english language

can piss me off at times

Ok I can forget about # 1 and 2, I decided to read my Arch Nemesis's old posts and found out that Kimo was his last obsession,I thought I was special!! Basicaly negative snipes were about 3 to 1 of anything even close to contribution so I can now not be hurt by you Palolo Joe :p

admin
September 22nd, 2005, 07:36 PM
I said drop it, you two. Palolo Joe, don't be an ass - you know better. Fondoo, stop taking the bait, and grow up.

This is your second warning. I start deleting posts next.

We're done here.