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Gumby
July 24th, 2005, 02:56 PM
moving soon to pearl harbor on a goverment contract position should I bring my cj-7 jeep with me? how hard is it to get it through inspection? where should I buy a place? I am looking to spend 500K the company is gonna front the moneyfor the house. I have been to hawaii before I live in alaska and visit hawaii every winter so I am some what familar with the housing sitiuation? but not sure whats safe

1stwahine
July 24th, 2005, 03:03 PM
Aloha Gumby! Welcome to hawaiithreads.com. Sure wish I had your job! Company pays you upfront 500K...you must know top secret stuff lil'dat. No need bring your jeep. Come over here and buy one brandnew Humvee.

Auntie Lynn

Miulang
July 24th, 2005, 03:14 PM
moving soon to pearl harbor on a goverment contract position should I bring my cj-7 jeep with me? how hard is it to get it through inspection? where should I buy a place? I am looking to spend 500K the company is gonna front the moneyfor the house. I have been to hawaii before I live in alaska and visit hawaii every winter so I am some what familar with the housing sitiuation? but not sure whats safe
Are they paying for all your moving expenses? If so, it might not be a bad idea to have your jeep shipped over. From the West Coast (I dunno about AK), it would cost about $900 to ship a vehicle there. Gas is probably even more expensive than it was in Alaska, too, and the freeways are a whole lot more crowded with cars going nowhere for long periods of time.

Hmmmm...$500K? That probably won't buy you a whole house in any desirable area on any island; it would get you a nice 2-bedroom condo, though. The median price of housing on Oahu (in the desirable parts of town) is well over $600k, so you're probably still going to have to have a mortgage of some kind on top of the loan from your company.

People who live onisland can tell you about where the best places to look would be. If you're a "free agent" (i.e., no wife or kids) it'll be a whole lot easier to find housing than with a family to move. If you have kids, make sure you check out the schools in the neighborhoods you're interested in before plunking down that down payment.

Good luck.

Miulang

Gumby
July 25th, 2005, 11:03 AM
well they are moving me and they will ship my vehicles for me(one). but it seems that my jeep is lifted to tall for the inspection . 22 in is the max and the jeep is 29 in with 35' tires so maybe just a bit overkill for the islands. thats ok its time for something small and newer.
I can afford a 500k condo without to much pain. It looks like I can put my daughter into the Base school not the hawaian public schools. I understand they are a bit less then ideal. The wife sells real estate and the company she works for will allow her to transfer her license to the hawaii branch. so things are looking better.

I am old enough to know everything is what you make it. If you think it will be bad or you enter into the move with your eyes closed your asking for trouble. I am moving from just south of philly so unless the gun fire and drug deals are going on under my bedroom window:) Hawaii won't bad. (by comparision)

Should I ship my scuba gear and surf fishing gear? mountain bike?

kimo55
July 25th, 2005, 11:16 AM
well they are moving me and they will ship my vehicles for me(one). but it seems that my jeep...
Should I ship my scuba gear and surf fishing gear? mountain bike?


ya know that jeep may be quite desirable here..
i would try to bring it over.

definitely the other stuff too! scuba surf fishing... beaches perfect for that. You would end up buying that stuff again soon.

pinakboy
July 25th, 2005, 11:37 AM
brada gumby jus bring as much as your company will pay fo da relocation expenses etc. :D juice'em no scade!

jeep is good hea and all ur equipment u get, plenty stuff fo do hea jus gotta be creative and adventurous. :)

good luck!

got job openings?? hehehe :p

Glen Miyashiro
July 25th, 2005, 11:43 AM
On the one hand, Gumby seems like a decent guy. :)
On the other hand, he and people like him are driving up the damn housing market. :mad:

Gumby
July 25th, 2005, 12:20 PM
buy real estate they quit making it along time ago:) :D
I go where the job goes. I hope to fit in without making waves and enjoy my time on the island. soak the company for as much as theyare offering and as long as I do whats required of me then I have not taken advantage of them just taken advantage of the opertunity

in my adult working life I have moved to iceland, germany ,spain, england,alaska,texas,arizona,florida,illinois,wash ington state,delaware ,south carolina.

I only wish I would of spent my beer money on microsoft in the early eighties. we would not be having this conversation

Glen Miyashiro
July 25th, 2005, 12:23 PM
buy real estate they quit making it along time ago:) :D Except on the Big Island, brah. Madam Pele has added about 500 acres in the past 20 years. :D

lurkah
July 25th, 2005, 12:30 PM
Except on the Big Island, brah. Madam Pele has added about 500 acres in the past 20 years. :D
Does this ring a bell?

"Buy now, for sure!" :D

Miulang
July 25th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Does this ring a bell?

"Buy now, for sure!" :D
Can I buy one piece of Kalapana lava flow now and have my ohana pay it off in about 200 years, when we will finally be able to build a house on it? :D

Miulang

kimo55
July 25th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Except on the Big Island, brah. Madam Pele has added about 500 acres in the past 20 years. :D


it's funny how da maps of Hawaii island are to a degree, outdated every few years!

Miulang
July 25th, 2005, 04:22 PM
well they are moving me and they will ship my vehicles for me(one). but it seems that my jeep is lifted to tall for the inspection . 22 in is the max and the jeep is 29 in with 35' tires so maybe just a bit overkill for the islands. thats ok its time for something small and newer.
If there's a way for you to put smaller tires on that Jeep so you meet the max specs you probably want to do that anyway. The salt air in Hawai'i makes autobody corrosion a bit of a problem, so if you buy something new and not used over there, you'll lose most of its value anyway through deterioration (sun and salt air) unless you're a car junkie like Craig and keep your car in meticulous condition. A 4-wheel drive comes in real handy when you go to the beach and you have to drive over rutted out, unpaved roads.

Miulang

Gumby
July 26th, 2005, 01:41 AM
well the jeep frame and the underbody were sandblast this last winter and coated with POR-15 a bulletproof rustproof epoxy coating so maybe that will work. smaller tires maybe the front and rear end were regeared 4:56 gears to turn the 35's smaller tires = torque that would make the jeep pull a house straight up a cliff

Gumby
July 26th, 2005, 07:53 AM
how is ewe plain as a place to live?

pzarquon
July 26th, 2005, 07:56 AM
Hot. Seriously congested with traffic if you plan to drive east into Honolulu. Yet, still lots of development and construction. The plus side? Cheaper than living closer to town, I guess. And newer amenities and shopping options.

Gumby
July 26th, 2005, 09:32 AM
only have to drive to hickham everyday

claytonmcgowan
July 26th, 2005, 05:36 PM
How much lift is too much lift? My jeep has 4 inches of lift and 33 inch tires. Will this pass inspection?

1stwahine
July 26th, 2005, 07:27 PM
only have to drive to hickham everyday In your first post you stated you will be working in Pearl Harbor for a Govt. contract. "Hickam" Air force Base is a different base from Pearl Harbor. One is run by the Air Force and the other by the Navy. Just a clarification. :rolleyes: :D

Auntie Lynn

Palolo Joe
July 27th, 2005, 01:31 AM
Clayton, if you're going to ship it commercial, just get it to where it will conform to the shipping company's requirements. Once you get to Hawaii you can visit the local "recon" station for advisement on your specific vehicle.

Gumby
July 27th, 2005, 06:45 AM
I consider them to be both in the same geographical area as far as comute. looks like I might bid on a house in the ocean pointe area of ewa plane.
Dog quarentine is going to kill me.

pzarquon
July 27th, 2005, 08:29 AM
You can cut quarantine down to five days or less (http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/ai_aqs_info.htm) if you plan ahead.

Good luck in your house hunt!

glossyp
July 27th, 2005, 11:12 AM
You can cut quarantine down to five days or less (http://www.hawaiiag.org/hdoa/ai_aqs_info.htm) if you plan ahead.

The hassle of the paperwork, shots, tests, etc. are well worth it. Pzarquon is quite right that you need to plan ahead and track what needs to be done when - it will save a bundle of money and your dog from undue discomfort. This option has only been available for a couple of years and it was a long time coming.

Miulang
July 27th, 2005, 12:31 PM
When I move back, I'm bringing 2 cats with me. I was sitting next to a guy on a flight to Maui earlier this year who was bringing over one of his pets on the same flight. He said you definitely have to plan ahead. It's the timing of the rabies shots that requires careful coordination. He said he started preparing for the trip for the pet a year in advance, making sure the rabies certificates were all updated, and then timing the final rabies shot within the window that Hawai'i insists the animal needs to be vaccinated. Right now, the only place you can take your pet directly to Hawai'i without ending up in quarantine is on Oahu, and the inspection station is located way in the bowels of the airport (the guy had to leave the terminal and then come back in through another gate almost directly underneath where we disembarked, which was kinda stupid). Maybe eventually the outer islands will have their own set ups so owners can fly directly to their final destination and avoid Honolulu. I think they may build one of those stations in Kahului, because they're planning to remodel the terminal. It would be nicer and easier for me if they did have a facility on Maui.

Miulang

Gumby
July 27th, 2005, 04:02 PM
all noted thanks It may be that i am to white and to male to get the position
the human resources dept is looking into filling the position with a person of color no shit! not how qualified you are but what color,race or some other measured quality except job skill

Miulang
July 27th, 2005, 04:05 PM
all noted thanks It may be that i am to white and to male to get the position
the human resources dept is looking into filling the position with a person of color no shit! not how qualified you are but what color,race or some other measured quality except job skill
I thought you already had your govt contract sewn up?? Now you think they may fill it with someone else just to fill a quota? Eesh. They keep trying to tell us that there's no discrimination... :mad: Be grateful you're not over 50, too, because there's subtle age discrimination going on, too.

Miulang

1stwahine
July 27th, 2005, 04:11 PM
all noted thanks It may be that i am to white and to male to get the position
the human resources dept is looking into filling the position with a person of color no shit! not how qualified you are but what color,race or some other measured quality except job skill

I worked at CCPO (Consolidated Civilian Personnel Office) Treasure Island before coming home to Hawai'i. It is against Federal Regulations to be refused a job because of race, color, religion, etc. etc. etc. Braddah, I don't care if you shark meat white, if you pocess the experience and knowledge you should be able to get the job. Eh, I thought they sending you. Now, you getting me confused. Auwe! :confused: :rolleyes:

Auntie Lynn

Glen Miyashiro
July 27th, 2005, 04:12 PM
Gumby said he's a federal contractor, not a federal employee. Does that make a difference?

Miulang
July 27th, 2005, 04:14 PM
As a federal contractor, why wouldn't they use the same criteria for hiring as they would for any federal job?

I thought any entity that was awarded a federal contract had to abide by the same rules as the federal government?

Miulang

1stwahine
July 27th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Gumby said he's a federal contractor, not a federal employee. Does that make a difference?

Human Resources, CCPO or any agency representing the Federal goes by the same guide lines, rules and regulations. No, to your answer Glen.

Auntie Lynn

Stephen
July 27th, 2005, 06:02 PM
Gumby,
Have you been BS'ing this whole time? It sounded like a done deal. 500K for some new digs, bringing the Jeeps, and now you're too white? What gives my fellow haole?
Stephen

1stwahine
July 27th, 2005, 08:15 PM
Gumby,
Have you been BS'ing this whole time? It sounded like a done deal. 500K for some new digs, bringing the Jeeps, and now you're too white? What gives my fellow haole?
Stephen

He all GUMS!! :p :D

Auntie Lynn

pzarquon
July 27th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I thought any entity that was awarded a federal contract had to abide by the same rules as the federal government?I think there are differences between a direct hire and subcontracting. In particular, I seem to recall that there are quotas and requirements when it comes to selecting subcontractors (even in a bid process?) that are primarily minority run. Or something like that. The difference between gender/ethnic/age bias in hiring a person versus hiring a company is negligible to some folks, I suppose, but... I can see how it might make a difference, and give a minority-run company an advantage.

That said, I would find it quite remarkable if a Human Resources department of any organization would outright tell an applicant, "We're looking to boost our minority representation." It may be true, just like how you can presume Hooters prefers hiring women servers, but stating it is just moronic.

In my experience, complaints about "being too {x}" for a job is often projection on the part of the complainer because someone who wasn't {x} was hired.

Gumby
July 28th, 2005, 11:08 AM
no I am not just beating my gums. I already work on the contract at a different location. the contract is for the goverment but I am not a goverment employee. they can and do fill positions in order to meet Goverment requirements for x amount of sex race or minority owned company and depending on what other Gov contracts the company holds its employee make up must meet those quotas so as not to be labled discrimtory. The HR dept did not tell that they are looking into a person of color/race/sex but a close contact in that dept did tell me they are looking in that direction. as per and over heard conversation. she told me this so as not to get to far ahead ofthe process thinking I was a shoe in for the position. The good news is that they pushed the close out date of the job back by a month that will allow me to at least start the rabies shots . if I go or not it wont hurt the dogs or my wallet to much to get shots

Stephen
July 28th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Gumby,
Hopefully you'll get lucky and soon be on your way to Hawaii.
Stephen

cezanne
July 28th, 2005, 11:48 AM
At least your company is up and up with you. Props to you for taking it so well. Some things are just the way they are huh? Well good luck to you... hope everything works out.