How can you distinguish a local from a non-local?

[Miulang]

Living up here for the years that I have (shuddup Lurkah), I've kinda developed radar for detecting local people...No matter where I am, I'm able to tell a "local" local from someone who's not a local (as in a katonk).

One thing I know is universal about locals no matter where they live or travel, is if you get a bunch of locals together and they start talking about serious things, eventually, somebody in the group is going to start talking about food! I don't know any other group of people (Asian, haole, whatevas) who have that ability...

For instance, get the locals to talk about space travel or the moon, and somebody from the group is going to say, "eh, that reminds me of the flying saucer sandwiches we used to eat at the County Fair!" (BTW: those things were onolicious...those, and the pronto pups, the chow fun and the shave ice :( ).

One other way to tell for sure the person you see on the street is a local is up here even in the winter, you'll see some guys with perpetual tans wearing shades, surfer shorts, short sleeved t-shirts and rubbah slippah and no jacket! No shame! :) I wear shorts and t-shirts on the weekend and walk around barefoot in the house almost all year round (yes, the shoes and slippahs rest next to the door).

Anybody know of any other ways to tell a local from a nonlocal besides the obvious things like their skin color or the language they speak?

Miulang

[Glen Miyashiro]

Locals can pick stuff up with their toes. It comes from spending their childhoods in slippers so the feet have room to spread. :D

[Glen Miyashiro]

And there's that thing that you do when you meet somebody and can't or don't want to take the time to stop and say howzit. Raise the eyebrows, pop the chin up and back down fast, flash a real brief smile. Sort of like making shaka except with your head. You know what I mean? Is there a word or a phrase for that?

[1stwahine]

Most of the Mama's, Aunties wear Papale's (hats) with adornments, flowers,fresh or plastic on the rim. ;)

Auntie Lynn

[oggboy]

Miulang,

I think It`s the way we we`re brought up and the way only us locals can just feel da ma`na. No need be Hawaiian fo no one person orginally from the 50th state.

Just da way they use their body language or that, feeing you get in your puuwa`i, you know as one local.

I went to Laguna Hills for my job and Tita, talk about how rude these people are. They think I one Mexican cause I brown skin....

From San Francisco to Los Angeles, unreal the way they act. But as okay cause we locals have moa class den dem......OGGBOY

[adrian]

Dey stay like da kine!

We can mix up english and pidgin and still understand each other.

And we atleast read pidgin to the max twice.

[craigwatanabe]

One true local when meeting another local will ask that initial and inevitable question: Eh what school you wen grad?

One local can tell you where the best ox tail soup is (Kam Bowl hands down)

But one local braddah walks like taran taran (big body) with a pidgin toe'd walk dragging da slippahs. He gives the shaka sign pointing down and shaking his hand like he's flicking off a booger saying, "wassup braddah"

He knows when the Ulua is running

He knows where to get the 6/5 papers and always bet nickle upside or opposite.

She can crack her chewing gum while smoking at the same time

All locals know one phone number to call if they like make one guy disappear: Eh braddah no ack...I goin make one phone call and you history braddah!"

Locals are always spending big bucks on New Years eve thinking they going impress their friends at midnight, instead their friends mooch off of him because they know he's going to buy $1000 worth of fire crackers but forgot the punks so everybody uses their smokes to light the cherry bombs then hold them just before they explode to make you know...taran taran, then the friggin fire cracker blow up in there hand. They shake it off but inside they crying like one baby. Outside they say: Das Nuttin bra nevah even hurt! And you wonder why he stay clenching onto that ice cold Budweiser beer bottle to numb the pain in his fingers.

Das right! One good local know how foa act cool despite looking like an idiot when...you know he act taran taran.

:D

Oh and the non local wears sneakers with socks and has that tell tale sun burn on their necks and faces.

Non locals will eat McDonalds because their too afraid to eat what locals dive into especially that Filipino stuff we call Blood!

[lurkah]

Das right! One good local know how foa act cool despite looking like an idiot when...you know he act taran taran.
http://allthingshawaiian.com/lurkah/aw/shakalurkah.gif
Dass right, brah!

[Miulang]

Wheneva one local brings food to one potluck, garans going be someting s/he used to eat small kid time and most of da time, not going have one single piece of pineapple insai!

How can dey call one pizza Hawaiian just because get pineapple on top??? Eh, I going try make one laulau pizza. You tink going be ono?

No get any beeg ideas about da laulau pizza, Lurkah. I kapu da idea already! :p

Miulang

[helen]

You know what I mean?
That phrase get said a lot verbally from locals.

[kimo55]

And there's that thing that you do when you meet somebody and can't or don't want to take the time to stop and say howzit. Raise the eyebrows, pop the chin up and back down fast, flash a real brief smile. Sort of like making shaka except with your head. You know what I mean? Is there a word or a phrase for that?

da confahmashun.

[kimo55]

Locals can pick stuff up with their toes. It comes from spending their childhoods in slippers so the feet have room to spread. :D

ho man, small keed time we nevah even weah sleephah. barefoot alla time. to school, den all ovah da hills back behind da hale, trundle up da hillside keola hills... lava rock, dirt, keawe trees steekah. no baddah. we grew tougher soles den sleepah. better protection.

barefoot mo bettah fo ride sketboard too.

[lurkah]

barefoot mo bettah fo ride sketboard too.
Yeah, most times...

*Warning! Graphic details follow! Do not read if squeamish!*

Small keed time my braddah wen go ride his skateboard on da asphalt pavement road and was doing one hang-five with the toes of one foot hanging ovah da front of da board when one of da front wheels hit one small rock which made da skateboard lock up and huli forward...which made his big toe pearl dive into da road. I heard him screaming so I ran ova fo see wat wen happen...and noticed had one big white bone sticking out where his big toe was supposed to be. Anden I saw his big toe was just hanging by skin underneath his foot. I suddenly felt queasy and nevah know what fo do so I ran fo go call my maddah and told her what happened. She rushed to where my braddah was lying in da road...and promptly and calmly slipped his big toe back on to the bone while my braddah was screaming and crying...anden drove him to da ER for stitches.

Da tings only a mom can do. ;)

[kimo55]

Yeah, most times...


well dass all we knew. to ride sketboard in da 60's anything but barefoot.... well, would a been unheard of.
Planny huli makakuli anyway. nothing so bad as dat toe scrape tho. Ho. dass ruff.

[Mokihana]

Locals can pick stuff up with their toes. It comes from spending their childhoods in slippers so the feet have room to spread. :D

Oni good dat!!! My haole husband laffs like crazy wen he sees me do dat!

[lurkah]

well dass all we knew. to ride sketboard in da 60's anything but barefoot.... well, would a been unheard of.
Dass right, and da skateboards we made had da kine small steel wheels dat we robbed from regular skates and nailed or screwed down to pieces of wood and made big noise ontop da asphalt road.

Dass also how you could distinguish one local from one non-local. Da non-locals had store-bought skateboards. :D

[lurkah]

Oni good dat!!! My haole husband laffs like crazy wen he sees me do dat!
But I bet da laffing stops when he smells da toejams. :p

[Mokihana]

Da person we stay talkin to knows wat we mean if we say, "Eh, try da kine da da kine" (As in, "close da light" oa watevah.)

Locals say "eh" in front of da sentence, an "yeah" at da end wit one question mark, voice going up.

Locals know how foah pronounce and spell my name! (99.9% of mainlanders call me "Mokahana", even wen dey see my name written down).

Locals get dat sense of ‘āina dat no oddah place on earth gets.

[kimo55]

Dass right, and da skateboards we made had da kine small steel wheels dat we robbed from regular skates and nailed or screwed down to pieces of wood and made big noise ontop da asphalt road.

Dass also how you could distinguish one local from one non-local. Da non-locals had store-bought skateboards. :D

wellll we did alter da trucks and cop da wheels from where we could
loved it when da new wheels came out. But da boards...
since we made surfboards....
hadda do our own wood boards hand made to our own specs...

[Mokihana]

Oh, an locals know dat oni get slippahs, not flip-flops!

[Mokihana]

But I bet da laffing stops when he smells da toejams. :p
Eh, no ack, king of da u know wats!

[craigwatanabe]

ho man, small keed time we nevah even weah sleephah. barefoot alla time. to school, den all ovah da hills back behind da hale, trundle up da hillside keola hills... lava rock, dirt, keawe trees steekah. no baddah. we grew tougher soles den sleepah. better protection.

barefoot mo bettah fo ride sketboard too.

Eh right on Kimo...barefoot time we stay make taran taran when we step on the firecracker and tell Bertram: Eh Bertram...go light em up now!

Yeah skateboard time moa easy hang five off the tip plus can grab em wit da toes for make power slide down uluwatus. Ho boy skateboarding down asphalt roads with rock wheels dem were da days. Plenty cherries on the kneecaps and elbows too. :D

[kimo55]

uluwatus. Ho boy skateboarding down asphalt roads with rock wheels dem were da days. Plenty cherries on the kneecaps and elbows too. :D



and wallo's!
get super 8 footage of us there. ho those were....

[alohabear]

Locals get big feet!

[Glen Miyashiro]

Locals get big feet!No kidding. I heard from one Nordstrom's shoe department guy one time, they always stock up on the extra-wide EEE sizes when they order.

[lurkah]

No kidding. I heard from one Nordstrom's shoe department guy one time, they always stock up on the extra-wide EEE sizes when they order.
Oh. But mine's is EEEE. :o

[Miulang]

Oh. But mine's is EEEE. :o
Ho, da luau kine feet you get! So wat? You go hadashi insai da house and you wear slippahs most of da time den, yeah? Get dakine supawide slippah too? :p

Miulang

[lurkah]

Ho, da luau kine feet you get! So wat? You go hadashi insai da house and you wear slippahs most of da time den, yeah? Get dakine supawide slippah too? :p
Well, let me put it this way. If you go to Mel's Market in Waimanalo, dem baboozes get my rubbah slippah size tagged as "skateboards". Dey tink dey so danged funny. :mad:

[craigwatanabe]

Locals laugh when they tell the non-local that the cellophane wrapper is actually rice paper...and da buggahs actually eat it! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! :D

Den we eat the Tomei Ami candy rice paper and all and watch them bug out in amazement :eek:

Oh yeah you can eat da green cut leaf in the Zippy's Zip Pack...nevah mind dat it tastes like plastic, hemo da Shoyu on top.

[Miulang]

Locals laugh when they tell the non-local that the cellophane wrapper is actually rice paper...and da buggahs actually eat it! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! :D

Den we eat the Tomei Ami candy rice paper and all and watch them bug out in amazement :eek:

Oh yeah you can eat da green cut leaf in the Zippy's Zip Pack...nevah mind dat it tastes like plastic, hemo da Shoyu on top.
You so kolohe! ;) My muddah go save all dakine green leaf decorations from da boxes of sushi...I wen go ask her one time, "Eh, wat you going do wit dat?" She said, "Oh, I going use 'em sometime [NOT]" Last time I was home, she had hundreds of those things neatly tucked in a plastic bag...

Cannot find da rice candy up here. Still get da little prize insai one end of da box or wat? Da brand I remember was Botan, I tink.

Miulang

[kimo55]

Cannot find da rice candy up here.
Still get da little prize insai one end of da box or wat?
Miulang
yea. still get.

pm me yer address. will sendum.

[Miulang]

Locals say "no" when they mean "yes" as in, "You going come too, no?"
I think this may be unique to Oahu locals only; I never heard any people on Maui (unless they originally came from Honolulu) say this.

If one local gives another local da stinkeye, the person being given the stinkeye will say, "Wot, I owe you money?"

When locals get into disagreements, they don't fight; they "beef"

Locals will eat mac salad and rice and sushi in one meal...if they can get it.

Miulang

[kimo55]

i geev da stinkeye sometimes when dey short me on my platelunch and da guy sez:
Eh. I owe you beef or wot!?

[1stwahine]

TITAS can scrap, beef, throw blows...whatever you want to call it, FIGHT!

Just imagine Da dog's wife and me. Garran's big draw at NBC! Her in da leather and me with lavalava goin at! Whack whack da B*#@& knocks out. :D :p

Auntie Lynn

[Mokihana]

Cannot find da rice candy up here. Still get da little prize insai one end of da box or wat? Da brand I remember was Botan, I tink.

Miulang

Eh, try go Uwajimaya! Dey get choke! Usually up near da register, at least in da Beaverton one get.

[Miulang]

Eh, try go Uwajimaya! Dey get choke! Usually up near da register, at least in da Beaverton one get.
I wen go look one time! Neva had da BOTAN kine rice candy wit da lido prize at one end of da box, though.

Miulang

[lurkah]

My muddah go save all dakine green leaf decorations from da boxes of sushi...I wen go ask her one time, "Eh, wat you going do wit dat?" She said, "Oh, I going use 'em sometime [NOT]" Last time I was home, she had hundreds of those things neatly tucked in a plastic bag...

Cannot find da rice candy up here.GET! Eretime we go to da Seattle Uwajimaya's it's mandatory dat we pick up some Tomoe Ame (http://www.alohagoodies.com/1Tomoe1.JPG) candy fo take back home fo da keikis because if we no do that then they get all habuts with us! :p

Anden about da plastic green leaf decorations, I used to use those to line da inside borders of bulletin boards. I bet you nevah know I had dat kine talent, eh? :D

[Miulang]

GET! Eretime we go to da Seattle Uwajimaya's it's mandatory dat we pick up some Tomoe Ame (http://www.alohagoodies.com/1Tomoe1.JPG) candy fo take back home fo da keikis because if we no do that then they get all habuts with us! :p

Anden about da plastic green leaf decorations, I used to use those to line da inside borders of bulletin boards. I bet you nevah know I had dat kine talent, eh? :D
K'den. I going check Uwajimaya again dis weekend for da candy. And if no get, I can call you one bulai-a? By da checkout stands, yeah?

Ho, you right! I neva know you one artistic buggah. So da luau feets not weighing down da brain too much, den! :D

Miulang

P.S. eh, I wen go check out da link to da picture in your post. Dat no look like what I had wen I was small kid time. What I rememba was one oblong candy covered in clear rice paper, not dakine fancy pink paper. Even da outside wrapper used to be clear wit red kine letters on it. And jus like Cracka Jack now...no moa good kine prizes, yeah? Oni get stupid kine stamps! :mad:

[lurkah]

P.S. eh, I wen go check out da link to da picture in your post. Dat no look like what I had wen I was small kid time.
Sorry tita, but I no can help it if your small kid time came soooo many years before my small kid time. :rolleyes:

[Miulang]

Sorry tita, but I no can help it if your small kid time came soooo many years before my small kid time. :rolleyes:
Eida dat, or my memory going away fasta den my body! :eek:

Miulang

[1stwahine]

Wow, Miulang, I neva had crack-a jack looong time! Anybody rememba the tiny black seed dey use to sell in small brown packages? Wat about the old Manapua man carrying the long stick with da two heavy metal containers with the favorites, rice cake, manapua black suga or red meat, half moon, pork hash, etc. I use to wonda how dey still hot even wen he walk far.

Or remember the trucks that use to come in the neighborhoods that sold everthing. From tofu, watercress to can goods.

Ahhhhh...yes, we are locals! :D

Auntie Lynn

[Miulang]

Wow, Miulang, I neva had crack-a jack looong time! Anybody rememba the tiny black seed dey use to sell in small brown packages?
What, you mean Sen-Sen (http://www.oldtimecandy.com/sen.htm)? I dunno why we used to buy da stuff (maybe cause was cheap back den). Now dey call it da "original breath freshener". Tasted like licorice. Boy, now I know why I HATE black licorice!

Miulang

[1stwahine]

What, you mean Sen-Sen (http://www.oldtimecandy.com/sen.htm)? I dunno why we used to buy da stuff (maybe cause was cheap back den). Now dey call it da "original breath freshener". Tasted like licorice. Boy, now I know why I HATE black licorice!

Miulang

Yeah, das da one! I hate licorice too. ;)

[lurkah]

Wat about the old Manapua man carrying the long stick with da two heavy metal containers
http://allthingshawaiian.com/lurkah/graphics/manapua-man.gif
"Manapua!! ... Pepeiao!!"

[1stwahine]

Lurkah, you too too much. Das how I remember the Manapua man exactly! Oh, thanks for the tickle, I got um!

Lynn ;)

[craigwatanabe]

Ho man dis thread going all loco out!!!

I feel sorry for those who cannot relate to what da heck we talking about! But then again, that's how you can tell a local from a non local.

Eh so wat anyone remember the big black "X" painted on the sidewalk in front of the Bank of Hawaii building at Ala Moana Center on the corner of Keeaumoku and Kapiolani BLVD? Wassup wit dat. Everytime I would stand on it I'd look up expecting something to land on top of me!

Anden da big flap back in da 70's when Liberty House and Kramers started selling "Locals Only" windbreakers and how you could get the fake embroidered labels at the swap meet.

Ho man it's almost 3am and dis buggah stay getting ready for hit the sack.

[lurkah]

Ho man dis thread going all loco out!!!

I feel sorry for those who cannot relate to what da heck we talking about! But then again, that's how you can tell a local from a non local.
Or an old fut from a young fut. :p

[pinakboy]

Wheneva one local brings food to one potluck, garans going be someting s/he used to eat small kid time and most of da time, not going have one single piece of pineapple insai!

How can dey call one pizza Hawaiian just because get pineapple on top??? Eh, I going try make one laulau pizza. You tink going be ono?

No get any beeg ideas about da laulau pizza, Lurkah. I kapu da idea already! :p

Miulang

Miulang i made laulau pizza befo. was ok but junk eat laulau without rice or poi! lol :D i need da rice or poi. hmmmm unless u can make one version with poi on top or rice! :rolleyes:

[pinakboy]

Wow, Miulang, I neva had crack-a jack looong time! Anybody rememba the tiny black seed dey use to sell in small brown packages? Wat about the old Manapua man carrying the long stick with da two heavy metal containers with the favorites, rice cake, manapua black suga or red meat, half moon, pork hash, etc. I use to wonda how dey still hot even wen he walk far.

Or remember the trucks that use to come in the neighborhoods that sold everthing. From tofu, watercress to can goods.

Ahhhhh...yes, we are locals! :D

Auntie Lynn

yah i rememba da manapua man walking around selling by Kam Housing near Farrington High School. We used to buy. those were da wonda years.

And da "Banana Man", nice japanee old man used to come by with his green truck from kaneohe side sell all types of banana to da kalihi neighborhoods. he used to give da kids free banana fo taste!! :rolleyes:

miss dose days!! :o

[lurkah]

And da "Banana Man", nice japanee old man used to come by with his green truck from kaneohe side sell all types of banana to da kalihi neighborhoods. he used to give da kids free banana fo taste!! :rolleyes:
Small keed time us guys out Kuliouou Valley side used to have one Japanee old man come with his ancient blue truck full of veggies, candies and oddah kine stuffs. They used to call him da "Yasai Man"...yasai meaning vegetable in Japanese. Buggah was one hard workah driving all ovah da creation and he used to wear old beat up kine clothes dat made me think he lived on one farm someplace. That is, until one day I just happened to be cruising through a neighborhood where you could tell planny rich peeps lived in their mansion-like homes on da slopes of Diamond Head. At dis one particular really nice-looking residence, there it was -- da ancient blue Yasai Man's truck. And no, he wasn't just visiting. I checked again several times and his truck was always there. :D

[D'Alani]

Eh small kid time had any kine "man" no? Had da rubbish man, gahbage man who used to pick up the left overs dat da dog neva like, milkman, ours was Dairymen, and no can foget da chlorox man, you leave out the empty bottles and he replace with full ones. Anybody rememba da "Party Pak" toys rack? Had dis store across Ayala's called Budget Center and us bruddahs used to go and "help ourself" ery once in a wile, now I know dat wasn't a good ting.

[cezanne]

Anybody used to "burn rubbish" long time ago?

[dick]

>>>Anybody used to "burn rubbish" long time ago?

Growing up in upcountry Maui, we didn't have garbage collection (from what I recall), so we'd throw everything into the 55-gallon barrel and light it up. Even when we'd clear some overgrown trees we'd pile it all up and torch that, too. Was good fun when we could burn anything, anytime. Now with all the houses all around I think people would freak if had the kind of fires we used to have.

[Miulang]

P.S. eh, I wen go check out da link to da picture in your post. Dat no look like what I had wen I was small kid time. What I rememba was one oblong candy covered in clear rice paper, not dakine fancy pink paper. Even da outside wrapper used to be clear wit red kine letters on it. And jus like Cracka Jack now...no moa good kine prizes, yeah? Oni get stupid kine stamps! :mad:
OK, Bruddah Lurkah, for ONCE (and one time only), I going say "gomen" to you. I went to Uwajimaya and wen spock da Botan rice candy. So I bought 4 boxes. Just my imagination or wat? Da pieces moa manini now, yeah? (eida dat or my mouth was smalla back den). And oni get stamps now foa da prize. Anden I wen go look at da calorie count foa one manini piece: sheesh! 80 calories of pure shugah! :eek:

Since I was Uwajimaya, I wen go buy laulau for grind tonight and I also going make chicken long rice and lomi salmon. Gotta eat Hawaiian tonight to honor da kanaka maoli in their fight to keep KSBE the way it is.

Miulang

[craigwatanabe]

Eh Miulang...Chicken Long rice and Salmon is not native Hawaiian dishes!!

Eat da poi and grow some hair on da chest! Den shave em off cuz you one wahine :D

[lurkah]

OK, Bruddah Lurkah, for ONCE (and one time only), I going say "gomen" to you.
Okay, try wait tah? I gotta go engrave dis date in histry 8-3-05 for da sake of posterity. :D

[1stwahine]

Eh Miulang...Chicken Long rice and Salmon is not native Hawaiian dishes!!

Eat da poi and grow some hair on da chest! Den shave em off cuz you one wahine :D

Hi Craig! I eat POI and I no moa hair on my chest. Why suppose to get? I going check MAMA.

Onnada thing, all the Lu'aus I've been to and have cooked for always get chicken long rice and lomi salmon in the menu. Wat would have been a lu'au way back then...I'm interested.

Auntie Lynn

Auntie Lynn

[Miulang]

Hi Craig! I eat POI and I no moa hair on my chest. Why suppose to get? I going check MAMA.

Onnada thing, all the Lu'aus I've been to and have cooked for always get chicken long rice and lomi salmon in the menu. Wat would have been a lu'au way back then...I'm interested.

Auntie Lynn

Auntie Lynn
Eh Tita:
You probably wouldn't be too happy with what a "real" luau from long time ago would have! For sure would get da kalua pig and da laulau, but would probably oni get baked sweet potato, steamed taro leaves, steamed fish (moi, if was da ali'i) maybe kulolo or haupia and plenty 'awa 'awa! :D

Lomi salmon neva come on da scene until later on. Same wit da chicken long rice. More den likely, da idea of da lomi was brought ova by da Mexican paniolos who came to work on da big ranches. In South and Central America, dey get one dish called seviche, which is salted fish with tomato. Da chicken long rice probably came from da Chinese immigrants.

Ohhhh...da laulau stay pau steam and da lomi and chicken long rice all ready foa grind, so...

A hui hou,
Miulang

[lurkah]

Ohhhh...da laulau stay pau steam and da lomi and chicken long rice all ready foa grind, so...
Eh tita, watevah you do, no go laff while you stay eating da long rice. Da buggah going look too funny hanging out from your nose. http://ohanalanai.com/lanai/images/smilies/sticktongue.gif

[Miulang]

Eh tita, watevah you do, no go laff while you stay eating da long rice. Da buggah going look too funny hanging out from your nose. http://ohanalanai.com/lanai/images/smilies/sticktongue.gif
And you know what we get foa dessert, Lurkah? Haupia cake and lilikoi cake from Kauai Family Restaurant! Yum!

Miulang

[Miulang]

Locals say things like "I like stay go", or "you stay going?". Most locals can also turn something that is very serious into something that will make you laugh.
To a local, everyone older than you is Auntie or Uncle; if it's someone around your age, it's Tita or Bruddah, even if you're not related to them.
Someone who's either not related to you or related in a very distant way is called "calabash".
If you get into an argument with a local and don't want to beef, you just say "Whatevas" and walk away.

Miulang

[Miulang]

A few other "localisms": "We going go or wat?" "I stay pau already." "Ass why hahd". "No stay can go.""You one bu-laia." "No make shibai lidat".

Miulang

[lurkah]

A few other "localisms": "We going go or wat?" "I stay pau already." "Ass why hahd". "No stay can go.""You one bu-laia." "No make shibai lidat".
Eh, not bad for one borderline katonk. :rolleyes:

[1stwahine]

My favorite, Wat? You get one problem? ;)

Auntie Lynn

[Miulang]

Eh, not bad for one borderline katonk. :rolleyes:
Wat, I owe you money now? :p Bumbye you going get buss up.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Eh Miulang, nuff with the pidgin stuffs. You da one who first asked:

Anybody know of any other ways to tell a local from a nonlocal besides the obvious things like their skin color or the language they speak?Ass why I never said nuttin about pidgin. :D

[Miulang]

Eh Miulang, nuff with the pidgin stuffs. You da one who first asked:

Ass why I never said nuttin about pidgin. :D
OK, how about this:
At a typical potluck, locals may eat food dishes from Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Hawaii, China, America, Italy, Mexico, Thailand...and then go back for seconds.

Miulang

[lurkah]

OK, how about this:
At a typical potluck, locals may eat food dishes from Korea, the Philippines, Japan, Hawaii, China, America, Italy, Mexico, Thailand...and then go back for seconds.
Eh, but not only locals would do that. Human Dispose-Alls come in every color and creed. :D I know you was trying fo pick on me again, tita. Was da Todai's thing eh? Nice try, though. :p

[lurkah]

My favorite, Wat? You get one problem? ;)
Ey Auntie, you neebah penis dee sentence wid dee whack whack!! :p

[1stwahine]

Ey Auntie, you neebah penis dee sentence wid dee whack whack!! :p

Lurkah, das not "local" das one mine. registered with wat dey call da place? oh, yeah, payton place! LOL :p :D

Auntie Lynn

PS. Try go check Lynn's Lair...you and Ryan created one MONSTA!

[AuntieNellieKulolo]

You're local if you watched 'Dog the Bounty Hunter' last night and understood the word 'boto'. :D

Also if you follow a statement of something truly amazing or unbelievable with 'Fo' real?'

[craigwatanabe]

Eh Tita:
You probably wouldn't be too happy with what a "real" luau from long time ago would have! For sure would get da kalua pig and da laulau, but would probably oni get baked sweet potato, steamed taro leaves, steamed fish (moi, if was da ali'i) maybe kulolo or haupia and plenty 'awa 'awa! :D

Lomi salmon neva come on da scene until later on. Same wit da chicken long rice. More den likely, da idea of da lomi was brought ova by da Mexican paniolos who came to work on da big ranches. In South and Central America, dey get one dish called seviche, which is salted fish with tomato. Da chicken long rice probably came from da Chinese immigrants.

Ohhhh...da laulau stay pau steam and da lomi and chicken long rice all ready foa grind, so...

A hui hou,
Miulang

If you want to know what the ancient Hawaiians ate, check out Dr. Terry Shintani's first book: The Hawaiian Diet. This diet is the book name of his Waianae Diet which was a derivative of the original Molokai Diet which was based on the original daily diet of the ancient Hawaiian. Whew...got that?

Dr. Shintani incorporated this diet into his cancer research and found that diet had a major impact on how cancers in the body develop and how they can be controlled back in the late 70's before it became mainstream information.

One of his star patients is former cancer patient Ruth Heidrich who was diagnosed with breast cancer in the early 80's and was given less than a year to live. She summoned the help of Dr. Shintani (before he became famous) and is still alive today. She and Dr. Shintani have been on numerous shows across America. Ruth was on Oprah Winfrey's show, Shintani was on Good Morning America. Ruth also wrote a book on her experiences called: A Race for Life. This title came out of her training to become a marathoner while going thru cancer treatments. She holds several local records in Hawaii for her age group in all of Hawaii's major marathons.

Both Ruth and Terry are good friends of mine and I can attest to their contributions to Cancer research.

Dr. Shintani was curious about the health of Hawaiians being the nutritionist at the Waianae Coast Comprehensive Health Center on Oahu. He was concerned about the rising number of diabetes and heart disease cases among Hawaiians and found their diets were lacking in good nutrition. He eliminated genetics as the chief causes of this group of Polynesians after researching the history of the diets of Hawaiians back to ancient times.

His research led him to Molokai where he discovered a diet rich in anti-oxidants and other nutrients. Further research found that this Molokai diet mimmicked the diets of early Hawaiians. Back then Hawaiians were massive people with large skeletal frames, muscular and very lean. Cancers and other ailments were few and were limited to the Ali'i who ate the more complex foods such as pork. The commoner pretty much was a vegetarian eating crops the Ali'i let them keep for themselves, fruits from the mountains and fish from the sea. Pork was a restricted item only to be consumed by the Ali'i.

With that information in hand, Dr. Shintani adapted the Molokai Diet and called it the Hawaiian Diet for mainland interpretation. It's now known as the Shintani Diet where he uses the saying: Eat More Weigh Less.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Back then Hawaiians were massive people with large skeletal frames, muscular and very lean.Yeah, and now they're massive people with large skeletal frames, sometimes still muscular but often very fat. :(

Cancers and other ailments were few and were limited to the Ali'i who ate the more complex foods such as pork. The commoner pretty much was a vegetarian eating crops the Ali'i let them keep for themselves, fruits from the mountains and fish from the sea. Pork was a restricted item only to be consumed by the Ali'i.Not to mention, like all pre-industrial farming people, they worked hard! Brah, you not going get fat when you work in the fields every day and only get kalo, greens, and fish to eat!

[craigwatanabe]

You got it. I forgot to mention that good cardiovascular exercise is also esential to keep the body fit and resistant to certain ailments. Ruth demonstrated that thru her desire to run marathons. Prior to her diagnosis she was just like most of us who never put an exercise regiment into our daily routines.

Yes Exercise and diet alone can help keep the body healthy. Genetics play another role in both the healthiness and degenerative nature of the human body. Can diet and exercise slow down, inhibit...even reverse the genetic nature of cancers? Dr. Shintani has shown that the answer is a resounding YES!

[Glen Miyashiro]

You're local if you watched 'Dog the Bounty Hunter' last night and understood the word 'boto'. :D Not if you was one clueless Japanee kid. One of my classmates was nicknamed "Boto" cuz his last name sounded a little like that, and I never figured out what it meant until I was grown up. Yes, it was mean. :p

[cezanne]

Eh Miulang, nuff with the pidgin stuffs. You da one who first asked:

Ass why I never said nuttin about pidgin. :D
LOL! For real! Das some tick pidgin Miulang get haha.

[craigwatanabe]

yeah same goes for my boss when I used to work in Honolulu. His last name is Yamamoto but we all call him Boto. I tink he stay clueless too becaus wen we yell out, "Eh Boto try come sign my vacation papahs" he whips out his pen and authorizes it with a smile...clueless.

Reminds me of a time on the mainland:

My friend Sterling (A Filipino who is now a cop for Honolulu's finest) and I was drunk at a night club in Boise Idaho when two women wanted to go out with these two boys from Hawaii.

Both wanted to know their names in Hawaiian. The tall girl asked romantically and Sterling in his drunken stuper paused and looked at her georgous body and said, "Honey...your name in Hawaiian is...Bilat or Beautiful body" Oh she was overjoyed. Then the shorter one asked and Sterling pondered and looked at the sky and then into her eyes and said, "for you my dear your name is...Lani Moo as in the romantic moon hanging overhead" :eek: Both were estatic and said they'll remember those names forever...I'm sure they will and our names as well :o

Both went home that night happy about their Hawaiian names and I laughed to Sterling that I'm glad I'm here in Idaho for only a couple more months before coming back to Hawaii! :D


Eh if those two girls are reading this post 23-years later...IT WASN'T ME IT WAS STERLING THAT GAVE YOU THOSE NAMES!!! :cool:

[Glen Miyashiro]

Ho da mean! :D :D :D

[Miulang]

LOL! For real! Das some tick pidgin Miulang get haha.
Eh, no laff too hard! I also have studied French, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, a smidge of Russian and Greek and Esperanto...pidgin is another foreign language for me, just one that's a little harder to spell than it is to speak. :p

Miulang

[lurkah]

Eh, no laff too hard! I also have studied French, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, a smidge of Russian and Greek and Esperanto...pidgin is another foreign language for me, just one that's a little harder to spell than it is to speak. :p
Ho wow, sorry eh? :rolleyes: You really wen study all those languages? Or just about how to order from their menus? :D

[Miulang]

Ho wow, sorry eh? :rolleyes: You really wen study all those languages? Or just about how to order from their menus? :D
Foa reals I wen study 'em...3 years French, 2 years Spanish, 1 year Potogee (Brazilian kine), about 8 years of Italian because I get goombas I used to hang out wit...Pidgin my whole life!

And yeah, I can spock 'em in menus, too! :p

Miulang

[1stwahine]

Da local know how to eat green mangos! Shoyu, vinegar and dip in da suga.

Some flipino locals also know how to eat green papaya chicken soup!

Auntie Lynn

[dick]

>>>You're local if you watched 'Dog the Bounty Hunter' last night and understood the word 'boto'.

I was watching that at the Hideaway, and the captions were on (can't hear anything with Social D screaming over the jukebox). They spelled it "Bow Tow." It took a while for it to register what the heck they meant. Of course, the PBRs weren't helping...

[1stwahine]

Aye sos! Everyone bastos (naughty)! LOL :D :p :D

[lurkah]

Both wanted to know their names in Hawaiian. The tall girl asked romantically and Sterling in his drunken stuper paused and looked at her georgous body and said, "Honey...your name in Hawaiian is...Bilat or Beautiful body" Oh she was overjoyed. Then the shorter one asked and Sterling pondered and looked at the sky and then into her eyes and said, "for you my dear your name is...Lani Moo as in the romantic moon hanging overhead" :eek: Both were estatic and said they'll remember those names forever...
I'm trying to imagine the severe emotional trauma those sweet, innocent wahines must have surely experienced upon being politely, or impolitely, informed as to the true meanings of their names. :eek:

On a Bachi rating of 1 to 5, I'd have to give this one a 5.

Brah, if you guys nevah do that, you would've won da lottery, da Megabucks in Las Vegas, etc... :D

[craigwatanabe]

Das okay the laughs we got was worth going to hell for eternity :D

[lurkah]

What's your filipino friend's name? I have local Hawaiian friends living in Boise who I kanikapila with from time to time, and I can check to see if your names are still living there in infamy. :D

[HaolewaiianGirl]

Local from non-local... One thing I noticed soooooooooo long ago was the slippah thing. Locals drag em. Mainland people snap them when they walk. And yeah, they call em flip flops. :p

What else?
Locals eat. Non-locals nibble.
Locals know they don't need to use their cell phone to call someone 200 ft away or inside their house....even at 2 a.m. They just yell. hehe
Only a local person can get in the car and be half way to work and realize they forgot to put on shoes before they left. (Done it pleny times!)
Locals know most food tastes batter if you eat it with your hands.
Locals learn to make mochi & spam musubi in school so they never starve.
Most locals know how to skank. Many non-locals THINK they know how. (Saddest thing I seen out here on the mainland yet. Don't they know?)

My favorite one you guys put was the "Whea you wen grad?" one. hehehe
People from the mainland say "Hey baby, whats your sign?". People from Hawai'i say "Hey bebe, wea you wen grad?" hehehe

I luv it.

Stuck livin on the mainland for 5 years now, but still draggin my slippahs proud! :)

[kimo55]

My favorite one you guys put was the "Whea you wen grad?" one. hehehe



whazz wrong wi dat!?



******************

(eh dat really one Hawaiian proverb?!)

[Glen Miyashiro]

One thing I noticed soooooooooo long ago was the slippah thing. Locals drag em. Mainland people snap them when they walk.Yeah, that distinctive shuffling sound.

I read one news article about some girls sports team getting heat for wearing slippers to the White House, and the writer said that flip-flops were also called "go-aheads" because it was hard to walk backwards in them since your feet would slide out. Hah? :confused: I can walk backwards in slippers, no trouble. I can run backwards in slippers when I have to.

Then I realized, American haoles get underdeveloped toe muscles cuz their feet are always cooped up inside shoes from small kid time. :p

[HaolewaiianGirl]

whazz wrong wi dat!?

******************

(eh dat really one Hawaiian proverb?!)

Fine by me. Seems to be the best thing to ask.
And yup! Its a hawaiian proverb. Probably came from paddling wa'a. Still good advice ya?

[HaolewaiianGirl]

Then I realized, American haoles get underdeveloped toe muscles cuz their feet are always cooped up inside shoes from small kid time. :p

hahaha Yeah, and their feet are all soft. Like jello! Which reminds me...

I got another one. You know u are local if you can walk barefoot down the street (black-top not sidewalk) at the hottest time of day on the hottest day of the year in the hottest town on the island without hurting your feet.

For me, that was Lahaina in the summer. My best friend's slippah broke so I gave her mine, cuz my feet are rough! :D

[kimo55]

Fine by me. Seems to be the best thing to ask.
And yup! Its a hawaiian proverb. Probably came from paddling wa'a. Still good advice ya?

and all this time i thought Hawaiian proverbs were in Hawaiian language... hmmm. ah well, the de-Hawaiianization of it all.

[craigwatanabe]

What's your filipino friend's name? I have local Hawaiian friends living in Boise who I kanikapila with from time to time, and I can check to see if your names are still living there in infamy. :D


Sterling Solusod.

Eh get plenty of Hawaii expatriates living up in Boise. Try ask dem about da buggahs from Mountain Home AFB back in the late 70's early 80's dat was us buggahs! Da Pohaku Four/Five!

[HaolewaiianGirl]

and all this time i thought Hawaiian proverbs were in Hawaiian language... hmmm. ah well, the de-Hawaiianization of it all.

Aww... come on Kimo. How you gonna spread the aloha (in this case, "Pupukahi i holomua.") to a world that can't speak hawaiian? I'd like to say you can tell a local because they speak fluent hawaiian but that's just not true. Look at it as compromise to have it in english, just partial de-Hawaiianization, not full on. Hawaiian wisdom, american language. Plus, the message is in your heart no matter what language you say it in... I think. Right Kimo?

[kimo55]

I say:
IF... it is a "Hawaiian proverb", TELL us da kine.
Geev um in Hawaiian
Then, translate da kine. THAT way da mana , feel, energy goin be shared. Don't haole-ize erryting.

oddawise it ain't a Hawaiian proverb. It is a generic proverb in english ascribed to Hawaii.
Hell. It could be a celtic, Or gaelic, Or Irish saying for all we know. verbatim.
Or at most, Just re-worded by a few letters.
because, those words JUST happen to be english translation for a common Latin proverb. AS well as a well known Dutch proverb.
Aesop also said that. and hey;
need more?
OK;
it's also an Ethiopian proverb.
But since it's translated to English? Who knows where that simplistic bit of common motherly throwaway advice originated??!

[pzarquon]

HaolewaiianGirl, as you're new here, you might not know Kimo all that well. Sometimes I think he should be in the FAQ (as well has his favorite fan the gainsayer). Basically, when he gets to nitpicking, he'll never let it drop. Your best bet is to just smile and nod and continue the real conversation with everyone else.

Back on topic...

I have to say that as a born-and-raised "local," I often fail these "you know you're local if..." tests. Can't speak pidgin, don't like haupia or mochi, and other travesties against The Way. So you can either take that to mean that there are no hard and fast rules or litmus tests to determine local-ness (the correct, but boring, answer), or simply that there's something wrong with me.

In one of the first replies to this thread, though? Where Glen noted, "Locals can pick stuff up with their toes." He's right! I didn't realize it was a "local" trait. My wife just always thought me (and my kids) were freaks. It's not so much that it's hard to do, but that it comes so naturally, without thinking, like having a second set of hands to pick up toys or open doors... Heh.

[Glen Miyashiro]

In one of the first replies to this thread, though? Where Glen noted, "Locals can pick stuff up with their toes." He's right! I didn't realize it was a "local" trait. My wife just always thought me (and my kids) were freaks. It's not so much that it's hard to do, but that it comes so naturally, without thinking, like having a second set of hands to pick up toys or open doors... Heh.It's probably also common in a lot of other countries where people don't wear shoes, but these days in the USA it's unusual. :D

[kimo55]

Basically, when he gets to nitpicking, he'll never let it drop.
aaaahhhh c'mon.
You know i rag on sumpin and then back off...
(esp. after a beer is dangled in fronta me. (hoh. mamuh!)
Ya sound like palolo. As if all i ever do is beach.
c'mon R.O. read my odda posts!
I ain't a complete joik. Some parts of me are semi nice.

[Palolo Joe]

Ya sound like palolo. As if all i ever do is beach.
c'mon R.O. read my odda posts!
I ain't a complete joik. Some parts of me are semi nice.Maybe not a joik, but a jerk... that might be a better descriptor.

The majority of your posts contain nothing but bitching and moaning. No need to go back and waste time reading 'em.

[HaolewaiianGirl]

's ok guys. :) I like jerkz. I married one. I can hang. hehe
Kimo is wrong anyway so I'm not too worried about it.

Kimo, if the proverb is generic, it doesn't matter what language I say it in. It can be a generic proverb translated in any language. Just because I type "Pupukahi i holomua." doesn't make it authentic. It could still be latin, dutch, or some random haole thing.

When did Aesop say it? And what was his language?
"The place of Aesop's birth is uncertain – Thrace, Phrygia, Aethiopia, Samos, Athens and Sardis all claim the honour. Some scholars believe that he could have been African."

But we can't read his stuff without keeping it in greek? Cuz we haolefy it and pull greek mana away from the greeks? hehe Seems real silly to me. And back to my quote... Hawaiians can't take credit cuz Ethiopians said it too? Who cares? Some Hawaiian said it and some Ethiopian said it. Great, they were both smart and deserve honor for it. On EthiopianThreads.com I'll make sure to put "- Ethiopian Proverb" in my signature.

But since it's translated to English? Who knows where that simplistic bit of common motherly throwaway advice originated??!

Wait, so you are saying that if more than one person comes up with good advice it makes all of the advice stupid just because more than one person said it?? And anything hawaiian can't be hawaiian unless its written in hawaiian? The moment anything is translated it becomes worthless? hehe Um... no. Sorry Kimo. Akamai ideas are good in ANY language. The spirit of the people and the mana come through the MEANING and INTENTION. Not what letters of what language you put it in.

*tosses Kimo a beer* And if I ever meet you, I'll buy ya a real one. :D

BACK ON TOPIC!
Locals can (don't always want to though) argue almost anything...forever and ever and on and on! hehe Ok that's a bit general, but me and my friends can. Its usually pretty funny all the dumb things we can argue about. Takes talent.

[kimo55]

I love and appreciate every word ya said!

[cezanne]

Locals know that it's okay to put Aloha Shoyu in a Kikkoman shoyu dispenser even though it says: FILL ONLY WITH KIKKOMAN SHOYU
:D

[kimo55]

Locals know that it's okay to put Aloha Shoyu in a Kikkoman shoyu dispenser even though it says: FILL ONLY WITH KIKKOMAN SHOYU
:D
da domestic product police goin getchoo! same ones dat may arrest ya if you tear off those big-as-a-flag pillow labels that say do not remove under penalty of law....

[newroots]

here. you know your local if you eat hot dogs and rice. haha , you know your local if your wife can kill a pig and watch the kids at the same time. hmm , you know your local if you slipper has a napkin in it.

these joke suck huh.

you know your local if you buy 100 99 cent sandwhiches at mcdonalds.
you know your local if you say stupid stuff like ''stop being sarcasm'' or ''since ever since''
you know your local if you have to borrow back something you own.

[HaolewaiianGirl]

Locals know that it's okay to put Aloha Shoyu in a Kikkoman shoyu dispenser even though it says: FILL ONLY WITH KIKKOMAN SHOYU
:D

YES!!!! LOL Have you been in my house??? hehehehe

[Glen Miyashiro]

Aloha Shoyu tastes better. I can't describe why, though.

And by the way, the Kikkoman shoyu bottle has made it into the New York Museum of Modern Art's collection. It was part of an exhibit last year called "Humble Masterpieces". :D

[Miulang]

Aloha Shoyu tastes better. I can't describe why, though.

And by the way, the Kikkoman shoyu bottle has made it into the New York Museum of Modern Art's collection. It was part of an exhibit last year called "Humble Masterpieces". :D
I have a bottle of Aloha Shoyu "lower salt" and Kikkoman "Lite" shoyu in front of me. Here is the ingredient difference:

Aloha Shoyu: Water, wheat gluten, soy beans, salt, sugar, caramel coloring, sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate.

Kikkoman: water, wheat, soybeans, salt, lactic acid, sodium benzoate.

Kikkoman Lite has 575 mg sodium per Tb to Aloha's 740 mg. Kikkoman has 1 g. carb and Aloha has 0, but Kikkoman has 10 calories per Tb and Aloha says it has none. I guess if you care about sodium, then the Kikkoman Lite would be your choice, but flavor wise, I still like Aloha better (must taste better because of all the additives ;) )!

Miulang

[Glen Miyashiro]

Must be the sugar. Like so many Hawaiianized foods, it's got more sugar in it than the original version from the old country.

[Glen Miyashiro]

And oh yeah, another slippers thing. Locals have those slipper tan lines on their feet. And they never fade.

[Miulang]

And oh yeah, another slippers thing. Locals have those slipper tan lines on their feet. And they never fade.
Small kid time, we used to have those tan lines from da slippahs because we used to walk in the dirt and den we hemo da slippahs and walk insai da house without washing our feet! Ho da stinkeye we used to get from my Mom when we did that! :p

Miulang

[craigwatanabe]

Do you know why I like Aloha Shoyu? Because it's made in Hawaii. Kikkomann is made in Wisconsin.

[Miulang]

Do you know why I like Aloha Shoyu? Because it's made in Hawaii. Kikkomann is made in Wisconsin.

Reminds me of that commercial for Pace Picante Salsa: a bunch of cowboys sitting around a campfire and one of the cowboys picks up a bottle of another brand of salsa, reads the label and says disdainfully: "NEW YORK CITY!?" :)

Miulang

[lurkah]

Kikkoman Shoyu is real shoyu. Aloha Shoyu is for wimps. :eek: :p :D

[cezanne]

Kikkoman Shoyu is real shoyu. Aloha Shoyu is for wimps. :eek: :p :D

*takes off shirt* "So why you had to go dea?!"

:D

[Miulang]

Kikkoman Shoyu is real shoyu. Aloha Shoyu is for wimps. :eek: :p :D

Eh, who's da katonk now, eh bruddah??? :p

Miulang

[Mokihana]

Eh, who's da katonk now, eh bruddah??? :p

Miulang
:D :D :D Geev um, Miulang!

[EastCoastTropics]

Non locals will eat McDonalds because their too afraid to eat what locals dive into especially that Filipino stuff we call Blood!

Yeah baby!! :D :D

[Fondoo2]

the non-locals are the ones being pelted with rocks from the natives? he he I'm getting a white man complex by reading these forums too much :p

[Glen Miyashiro]

I'm getting a white man complex by reading these forums too much :pWhite Man Complex? Is that like Blue Man Group (http://www.blueman.com/)? Boy those guys are funny.

[Fondoo2]

unless I came up with a way to make the embarassment of my race's apparent drive for world domination wacky fun and stage worthy I'm gonna have to say no. :o

[lurkah]

the non-locals are the ones being pelted with rocks from the natives? he he I'm getting a white man complex by reading these forums too much :p
Head on over to Puna, and after you've settled in, embark on your mission of goodwill to visit all of the nearby restaurants during their busiest hours when the locals will most likely be out having their lunches or dinners. And then very politely, yet loudly enough for everyone around you to hear, ask the restaurant if they have any balut (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/canonfreaks/ngan/balut.jpg) on their menu. Once the word gets around, I think you'll be okay. But if they do have it, you'll have to eat the balut. ;)

[Miulang]

It's not about race, per se, it's about adapting oneself to the prevailing culture and not trying to mold the prevailing culture to fit your own expectations. There are lots of "local" haoles, born and raised in the islands, who get along just fine with everybody else. That's the main distinction between the local haoles and people born and raised on the Mainland. The reason I named this thread "how can you distinguish a local from a non-local" is because a "local" can be anyone who was born and raised in Hawai'i, whether they still live there or not. If you've spent most of your childhood raised in Hawai'i, you're going to adapt to the prevailing culture, which is why some of my local haole friends will eat Spam musubi, kalbi, pancit, etc. and not bat an eyelash.

Miulang

[cezanne]

Head on over to Puna, and after you've settled in, embark on your mission of goodwill to visit all of the nearby restaurants during their busiest hours when the locals will most likely be out having their lunches or dinners. And then very politely, yet loudly enough for everyone around you to hear, ask the restaurant if they have any balut (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/canonfreaks/ngan/balut.jpg) on their menu. Once the word gets around, I think you'll be okay. But if they do have it, you'll have to eat the balut. ;)

I had to eat one of those because I had to walk my talk. I was telling some co-workers that it's all mind over matter. So, of course, someone brings some balut the next day (apparently, there's some place in Kalihi that makes these fresh every morning). The guy who brought it had no problem downing one but all eyes were on me. If I had several beers in advance I think it would have been a more enjoyable experience. :D

[lurkah]

I had to eat one of those because I had to walk my talk. I was telling some co-workers that it's all mind over matter. So, of course, someone brings some balut the next day (apparently, there's some place in Kalihi that makes these fresh every morning). The guy who brought it had no problem downing one but all eyes were on me. If I had several beers in advance I think it would have been a more enjoyable experience. :D
Too funny, brah! Wish I could've seen the expression on your face!http://allthingshawaiian.com/lurkah/smileys/smileykillingme.gif

[Fondoo2]

ok I just looked up Balut if I have it right it's a partualy develuped duck/egg served raw.Trying exotic food is fun for me probobly my love of eating in general showing thru.The problem imagining trying it would be is I find baby ducks so damn cute that it might make me sad eating Balut.Now letting a duck grow up to be big and fat then popping his head off ,plucking, cooking and eating him sounds just dandy,go figure :)

[newroots]

do you guys like kelaguen

[HaolewaiianGirl]

White Man Complex? Is that like Blue Man Group (http://www.blueman.com/)? Boy those guys are funny.
LOL! U funny

[HaolewaiianGirl]

It's not about race, per se, it's about adapting oneself to the prevailing culture and not trying to mold the prevailing culture to fit your own expectations. There are lots of "local" haoles, born and raised in the islands, who get along just fine with everybody else. That's the main distinction between the local haoles and people born and raised on the Mainland. The reason I named this thread "how can you distinguish a local from a non-local" is because a "local" can be anyone who was born and raised in Hawai'i, whether they still live there or not. If you've spent most of your childhood raised in Hawai'i, you're going to adapt to the prevailing culture, which is why some of my local haole friends will eat Spam musubi, kalbi, pancit, etc. and not bat an eyelash.

Miulang
Soooo right. although being haole, its hard not to feel guilty for what other haoles have done out there. I just used to remind myself I'm not them. I'm first generation american anyway. My great grandparents probably didn't even know where Hawaii was.

But back to Miulang's quote, that's why I like the term Haolewaiian. :) A haole from hawaii. We fit there just fine. Its our home too. We love the 'aina and want to protect the islands, preserve the culture, and throw guavas at tourists as much as any other local. hehehe

I also have a more superstitious view of local and non-local people. Have you ever noticed how many people move to the islands and just get chewed up and spit out by bad luck? They end up having to move back to the mainland. Most people I've seen don't last a year. And most of the ones who last longer... don't last that much longer because the longer they stay the more ruined their lives get. There are some really stubborn mainland people who do stay a long time, but they really aren't the majority. But really its like the island picks who can stay and who has to go or something. I have more weird experiences with that, but I don't wanna look crazy. :) I'm just glad I love the 'aina and the 'aina loves me.

[Jonah K]

do you guys like kelaguen
I like kelaguen. One of my Chamoru girlfriends taught me how to prepare it years ago. :)

[Surfingfarmboy]

A true local knows where to buy the best guri guri when on Maui.

[HaolewaiianGirl]

A true local knows where to buy the best guri guri when on Maui.

TASAKAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

[Mokihana]

And there's that thing that you do when you meet somebody and can't or don't want to take the time to stop and say howzit. Raise the eyebrows, pop the chin up and back down fast, flash a real brief smile. Sort of like making shaka except with your head. You know what I mean? Is there a word or a phrase for that?

Interesting thing I saw regarding this: my husband and I just began the movie "Once Were Warriors", filmed in New Zealand, and dang if within 5 minutes of the beginning of the movie, a kane and wahine exchanged this exact same greeting! He did the chin up, she did the chin up/eyebrows/smile. I replayed it over again just to feel like I was back home!

[lurkah]

Sterling Solusod.
Eh Craig, my friend in Boise said to tell your friend he'd better stay away, and that there's no statute of limitation for what he did. I think my friend ended up marrying Lani Moo.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Eh Craig, my friend in Boise said to tell your friend he'd better stay away, and that there's no statute of limitation for what he did. I think my friend ended up marrying Lani Moo.Uh oh Craig, busted! :D