HPU's Subliminal Racist Marketing Campaign

[kahalabrah]

Has anyone noticed how in virtually all of HPU's print ads (Downtown Planet, Hon Weekly, The Advertiser), there are NO asian/local male students? Try notice sometime. All haole males and females. If anything they perpetuate the haole male/asian female racist pairing in their ads, so common on the mainland. But no asian males.

I've even noticed the few TV ads feature only haoles.

As a male asian, I find this disgusting since HPU's student body is almost 85% asian/local.

[Fondoo2]

mass media=propaganda pure and simple so try not to feel singled out :)

my .02 I "Know" nothing!

[lavagal]

Has anyone noticed how in virtually all of HPU's print ads (Downtown Planet, Hon Weekly, The Advertiser), there are NO asian/local male students? Try notice sometime. All haole males and females. If anything they perpetuate the haole male/asian female racist pairing in their ads, so common on the mainland. But no asian males.

I've even noticed the few TV ads feature only haoles.

As a male asian, I find this disgusting since HPU's student body is almost 85% asian/local.


Your obsessions are showing: HPU and local news anchors. Are you a journalism graduate who didn't get a news anchor job or a spot in a commercial?

[kahalabrah]

Being an mainland-born asian male, I admit I am sensitive to racial bias against asian males. This is a glaring slight by HPU in my honest opinion. I'd like to know how this is acceptable in Hawaii. Perhaps we can share a friendly discussion.

Thank you.

[kimo55]

I find this disgusting since HPU's student body is almost 85% asian/local.


it is annoying and disgusting. I am shocked and chagrined. Chagrined, annoyed, shocked and disgusted! by this racial inequity. I will sue. Where do I sign up to be more offended by this discrimination and extreme social injustice and illegal disgusting politically incorrect disgustingness that I find offensively racial?!


(no, really?! ya think this is "sarcastic"?! jeez... what was yer first clue?)

[Fondoo2]

another funny,Kimo somthings different how many beers you up yo tonight?

[kimo55]

another funny,Kimo somthings different how many beers you up yo tonight?



uuuh, not as many as you, it seems...

[scrivener]

I'm fairly sensitive about this kind of thing, too (I subscribed to the now-defunct A magazine, even), and I'm a brand-new graduate student at HPU, and I gotta say that I haven't really noticed this. The brochures, at least for my program, are deliberately multicultural, but then you gotta remember that (a) universities are deliberately multicultural anyway and (b) every university's propaganda is deliberately multicultural to the point of being obvious about it.

I'm thinking of that one TV commercial with the girl going from the beach to her classroom at HPU, and she looked pretty dang local. I don't know about Asian, but she looked at least partially Pacific-Islander.

[pzarquon]

I've definitely seen HPU ads with "locals" (i.e. not pasty white) featured, in print and on TV. The whole point of them is to reach the local market, after all, whereas HPU's overall strength and appeal is from overseas. Yet, if they're recruiting people from their student body to appear in said ads, I suppose it makes sense that Caucasians are well represented.

As I mentioned in the very, very similar TV news thread (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=6346) you started, I think you're seeing a very different Hawaii than the one someone born here sees. Which isn't to say either perception is dead-on.

But I'd say it's a huge, huge stretch to see some newspaper ads with blonde haired, blue eyed kids from Sweden (and boy, have they got a lot of students from Sweden!), and think, "HPU has clearly enginered this subliminally racist campaign against the exploited and underappreciated minorities of this land!"

[Glen Miyashiro]

But I'd say it's a huge, huge stretch to see some newspaper ads with blonde haired, blue eyed kids from Sweden (and boy, have they got a lot of students from Sweden!), and think, "HPU has clearly enginered this subliminally racist campaign against the exploited and underappreciated minorities of this land!"Waitaminute. Swedish college girls? Oooh. :D :D :D

[scrivener]

Waitaminute. Swedish college girls? Oooh. :D :D :D
Sign me up! Oh, wait. I am signed up. Woo-hoo!

[kahalabrah]

"I think you're seeing a very different Hawaii than the one someone born here sees. Which isn't to say either perception is dead-on."


You're absolutely right. I've had this discussion with several local/asian friends and we have virtually opposite life exposure to racism. Local asians have been blessed to have lived with virtually NO anti-asian racism growing up in Hawaii and I am envious! I, a mainland asian, have endured so much overt and subtle anti-asian racism, I could talk endlessly about my experience.

To be honest, I harbor some bitterness toward whites because of this. Hope you all understand. But moving to Hawaii has definitely helped!!

[scrivener]

Local asians have been blessed to have lived with virtually NO anti-asian racism growing up in Hawaii and I am envious!
Whoa, whoa. Make up your mind! Are we being subject to subliminal racism or are we living with "virtually no anti-asian racism?" I respect your opinion, but I don't know if you can have it both ways!

But moving to Hawaii has definitely helped!!
Hmmmm. You may not have picked the best neighborhood, however. As Glen says, that's quite a loaded handle you're sporting there! Are you aware of the local Kahala stereotype? :)

[MadAzza]

Has anyone noticed how in virtually all of HPU's print ads (Downtown Planet, Hon Weekly, The Advertiser), there are NO asian/local male students?

Oh, yeah? Try being a Native American-Swede. We are severely underrepresented everywhere.

I mean, how often do you see Cherokee-Vikings in HPU's ads? I feel so oppressed! I want reparations. Or at least free tuition. Oh, wait, I already turned that down, 20 years ago. Never mind.

[kahalabrah]

Whoa, whoa. Make up your mind! Are we being subject to subliminal racism or are we living with "virtually no anti-asian racism?" I respect your opinion, but I don't know if you can have it both ways!

That's my point, I see the HPU marketing as favoring whites in their ads. You and many local asians don't see this somehow. ??
Confusing, eh?

We mainland asians may have a hyper-sensitive paranoia from all the crap we take. See www.angryasian.com and you may get a better understanding of me.


You said: "Hmmmm. You may not have picked the best neighborhood, however. As Glen says, that's quite a loaded handle you're supporting there! Are you aware of the local Kahala stereotype? :)

No. I'm not aware of this. Please elaborate. I know that it's mainly a white, gated/walled enclave which I am slowly tiring of. But it was a good investment at the time! :)

[kimo55]

I mean, how often do you see Cherokee-Vikings in HPU's ads?



I saw one!

no, wait.
yea, ok, sorry. that was a Dodge Ram.

[MadAzza]

I saw one!

no, wait.
yea, ok, sorry. that was a Dodge Ram.

Hey, man! That was INSENSITIVE.

Probably why it cracked me up.

[kimo55]

I know that it's mainly a white, gated/walled enclave which I am slowly tiring of. But it was a good investment at the time! :)

and others in non white ungated communities are slowly tiring of those that buy Hawaii r.e. as investment...
so there ya go.

[kimo55]

Hey, man! That was INSENSITIVE.


which is probably why i said it.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Put it this way, kahalabrah. Kāhala is to Honolulu what Beverly Hills is to Los Angeles. Wakatta?

[LikaNui]

Oh, yeah? Try being a Native American-Swede. We are severely underrepresented everywhere. I mean, how often do you see Cherokee-Vikings in HPU's ads? Maybe, but y'all did get those national TV commercials for the credit cards!
:p

[Fondoo2]

where did you live last and were you born in the states Kahalabra? Just wondering I'm from southern cali,big melting pot with plenty of asians and whites in the mix and have seen/heard little in the way of racism towards asians.
One thing comes to mind with many of the asians that are not born or have lived much of there lives in the states there is a differance in the american and asian version of polite behavior,mostly just the lack of saying please and thank you or may I,with clearly enough understanding of the language to be capable of it.As well as applying a forcefull/abrasive attitude over small things It used to put many of my family and friends on edge myself included.Since then I have had the good fortune to have made some asian friends and descovered that there are simple cultural diferences and not a rudeness of charactor
I am writing all this and risking getting blasted for saying "anything that could offend anyone"because you mentioned having ill-feelings towards whites and in my mind that hurts your spirit and doesn't hurt the people that mistreated you one bit,and unless you can read minds it is possible to missunderstand peoples motivations and actions and even your own contributions to the situation
So my point on this rant is I'm as white as they come and love the asian people and culture and wish you the very best

[MadAzza]

Maybe, but y'all did get those national TV commercials for the credit cards!
:p

ROTFL! This place is fullla comedians! Fulla comedians, I tell ya!

[kahalabrah]

To prove my point just pick up a copy of the Downtown Planet. Over the past year and a half, I have seen MOSTLY white men and women in their ads. As in the mainland, they WILL feature some asian women but rarely any asian men. The one time I saw an asian man featured in Downtown Planet, he was positioned out of focus and in the background of a male haole.

If their target audience is mostly asian and their student body is almost entirely asian but they use mostly whites for their marketing this reeks of subtle racism. This reminds me of my frequent travels through asia for business. Asian marketing very often uses whites to promote their asian companies and products on TV, billboards and all other ad media. Think about that. Whites to market asian products to asians.

It really underscores how racist HPU's marketing is. They are employing the same racist marketing to sell their image to asian-americans.

To Fondoo: I was born and grew up on the mainland in virtually all-white, upper-class areas where I was often stereotyped and ridiculed on a daily basis by classmates, neighbors and colleagues. Often times its the subtle, "joking" comments that hurt the most. Don't think anti-asian racism exists on the mainland and even on the west coast? You're wrong. Even on the west coast there is plenty of resentment of asians. I lived there too. Check out www.angryasianman.com for daily updates by a west coast asian.

Hawaii is the only place where I feel welcome and fit in as an asian-american.

[Miulang]

As a private institution of higher education, I don't think HPU needs to follow the same standards as the UH does in terms of being politically correct. HPU could probably have put green toed Martians in their ads if they wanted to. Since HPU's student population is made up mostly of Asians and Pacific Islanders, if there are any Caucasians in their ads it might be to let Caucasians know that they will be welcome in this environment, too?

All I know is HPU is danged expensive. My bro sent one of his kids to UNLV because he said it was cheaper than HPU, even with the cost of airfare and the out-of-state tuition.

I'm sorry you feel so oppressed, Kahalabrah. That's what happens when you're in the minority anywhere.

Miulang

P.S. one of the best ways I've found to beat those people at their own game is to ignore their comments and prosper more than they do. Did you ever consider that maybe they're just jealous of the fact that Asians are considered hard working, industrious and inclined toward working in the scientific or technological field? The popular misconception is that all Asians are meek and law abiding, too. Not that all Asians are, but that's the stereotype that we have to fight against, isn't it? ;)

[LikaNui]

This reminds me of my frequent travels through asia for business. Asian marketing very often uses whites to promote their asian companies and products on TV, billboards and all other ad media. Think about that. Make ya a deal, KahalaBrah. I'll "think about that" if you think about why that happens.
Let's use some logic here: If it wasn't producing the results the advertisers wanted, would they continue to do it? No. But since they are continuing to do it (as you report), then apparently it is what a majority of their target audience wants.
Right?

[pzarquon]

If their target audience is mostly asian and their student body is almost entirely asian but they use mostly whites for their marketing this reeks of subtle racism.Except we don't know what HPU's target market is (which at best can only be derived by determining the demographics of the publications selected - it seems more likely that they're seeking downtown business people as a class, regardless of color), and as I mentioned earlier, their student body is not almost entirely Asian. Far from it. Half the time, when I'm at the mauka end of Fort Street, I feel like I wandered into some European country!

Again, if they use actual students or even actual classrooms in their ads, I think it's possible that the room might look to be straight out of rural Kansas.

And as Scrivener noted, in advertising in general, it is usually transparent when an agency wants to create the illusion of diversity when there isn't one. I remember when I was applying to colleges and got a glossy brochure from one in Indiana. You could practically see the inventory labels for the photos. "Classroom Setup C - 15 percent Hispanic, 5 percent Asian." Like they trucked some... darker kids in from NYC to sit on stoops and look comfortable for the camera. :p

If an HPU ad is representative of the school, and not what some fabricated formula of Ideal Diversity(tm) dictates, I'd prefer that, frankly.
Think about that. Whites to market asian products to asians.I've observed the same thing, but how you're linking that practice, in an entirely different culture, to an HPU ad is a ridiculous stretch. I suppose you might say that both are taking the tack that non-whites "aspire" to whiteness, but in the case of the ads in Tokyo, Singapore, Malaysia, or the like that I've seen, they capitalize more on the appeal of the American or western lifestyle rather than the racial component.

I think you see what you want to see, in this case. I suppose I can start counting pale blondes in ads against other "colors," but I haven't seen anyone else here feel that the overall mix in an HPU ad is at all askew. If anything, it is a testament to the effectiveness of their ads that the ones I remember are the ones with the "local guy" or the "local surfer girl," which is a pretty good sign that they might even be on the right track.

[sinjin]

I was born and grew up on the mainland in virtually all-white, upper-class areas where I was often stereotyped and ridiculed on a daily basis by classmates, neighbors and colleagues. Often times its the subtle, "joking" comments that hurt the most. Don't think anti-asian racism exists on the mainland and even on the west coast? You're wrong. Even on the west coast there is plenty of resentment of asians. I lived there too.

Take two white girls and call me in the morning!
:D

[Moto]

Another Item to think about. HPU had a commercial on the air that probably predates you here in Hawaii Kahalabrah, where they showed students announcing to the camera, where their origin were. The message they were trying to get across is that their student body is comprised from people all over the world. I'm sure the locals know what commercial I'm talking about.

[kahalabrah]

sinjin said: "Take two white girls and call me in the morning!"

I had no choice but to date haole girls when I was growing up! ;) As you may know, on the mainland, most asian girls told me to my face, or to my friends "Sorry, I don't date asian guys." Plus, I was often the only asian in my entire town, school, workplace on the east coast. But whenever I was attracted to an asian on the mainland, 90% of the time she's a white-worshipping sellout.

Asian american women on the mainland are outwardly shameless about their preference for white men which I don't see here in Hawaii. Hawaii and mainland are polar opposites for asian americans. Everywhere in mainland media and advertising and even in real life you see the White man/asian female coupling. Never if ever do you see asian man/white female. I was an anomaly by dating white girls.

[kimo55]

she's a white-worshipping sellout.

Asian american women on the mainland are outwardly shameless about their preference for white men



an individual's personal preference should never be disparaged.
Last time I looked, this was part of the freedom of our country.

You think they should be shamefull, cuz they don't fall at YOUR feet?!
jeez.

[Menehune Man]

Another Item to think about. HPU had a commercial on the air that probably predates you here in Hawaii Kahalabrah, where they showed students announcing to the camera, where their origin were. The message they were trying to get across is that their student body is comprised from people all over the world. I'm sure the locals know what commercial I'm talking about.

I remember that commercial! All kinds of people.

[Palolo Joe]

But whenever I was attracted to an asian on the mainland, 90% of the time she's a white-worshipping sellout.
Wow... pretty good example of how racism definitely goes both ways.

Judging by the opinions and related attitude I've seen from you in your brief time here KB, I'm starting to think you might have a problem attracting women in general - not just Asians.

HPU is a pretty diverse place, especially for a private institution. There are more students from the mainland there because they can afford the tuition. Locals go to one of the community colleges, then jump to UH-Manoa.

[MadAzza]

I had no choice but to date haole girls when I was growing up! ;) As you may know, on the mainland, most asian girls told me to my face, or to my friends "Sorry, I don't date asian guys."


Translation: "I don't date whiney Asian guys."

[Jonah K]

I had no choice but to date haole girls when I was growing up! ;) As you may know, on the mainland, most asian girls told me to my face, or to my friends "Sorry, I don't date asian guys." Plus, I was often the only asian in my entire town, school, workplace on the east coast. But whenever I was attracted to an asian on the mainland, 90% of the time she's a white-worshipping sellout.

Asian american women on the mainland are outwardly shameless about their preference for white men which I don't see here in Hawaii. Hawaii and mainland are polar opposites for asian americans. Everywhere in mainland media and advertising and even in real life you see the White man/asian female coupling. Never if ever do you see asian man/white female. I was an anomaly by dating white girls.
Aloha kahalabrah,

You were probably attracted to Asian and Asian American women who were predisposed to "selling out" when you lived in the continental U.S. ;) The Asian American community is quite diverse, so the stereotype that Asian American women on the "mainland" prefer white men is somewhat misleading. The late Harry Kitano, a UCLA sociologist and professor of mine, studied the dating and marriage patterns of Asian Americans rather extensively. In brief, Kitano found that sansei (third-generation) and yonsei (fourth-generation) Japanese American females were more likely to date and marry non-Asian Americans more that any other Asian American female group. Laotian, Cambodian, and Vietnamese American women, on the other hand, were more likely to date and marry other Asians and Asian Americans. The primary reason for this difference is attributable to different immigrant histories and acculturation patterns. Furthermore, the Asian and Asian American women in Hawai'i are not exactly the "polar opposites" of their counterparts on the continental U.S. However, the propinquity of suitable Asian and Asian American males here is somewhat higher than on the continental U.S., which slightly skews the statistics.

Ultimately, the success of an Asian or Asian American male in the dating and marriage arena here and in the continental U.S. has more to do with his own personal characteristics rather than the perceived preferences of Asian and Asian American females. :cool:

[pzarquon]

But whenever I was attracted to an asian on the mainland, 90% of the time she's a white-worshipping sellout.Wow. Just... wow. I think I'd have to echo my colleagues here and say that the problems you're experiencing might not entirely be the construct of the rest of the world.

Asian american women on the mainland are outwardly shameless about their preference for white men which I don't see here in Hawaii.Were you on A. Magazine's editorial board, by any chance? :p I just kept reading story after story about Them stealing Our women. As if those women, by any measure, belonged to anyone because of their race.

Of course, after I met and married my wife, I wished I could write my own letter to the editor to brag that I got one of Their women! (But really, my wife was the one that did the getting.)

Yeah, television and movies (and even stock photo collections, used by most ad agencies) are chock full of Asian woman, white male pairings. Or even Asian women, black male parings. Yes, Asian males are underrepresented overall, and I don't think I've disagreed with you on this general point. But again, taking your perceptions of a slight on a universal level and applying it to the marketing department of a local educational institution is way, way too far of a reach.

[kahalabrah]

Sorry guys if I sound like I'm spouting off! A lot of my buttons were pushed and this forum has, for better or for worse, allowed me to vent! I appreciate the honest dialogue. To answer your concerns, I have no problem attracting women and currently date a local asian woman, just needed to vent as a mainland asian thriving in Hawaii.

It really makes a huge difference in quality of life when you are not a token of any race in a majority culture. Especially one that is perceived as a "perpetual foreigner" by the majority whites.

I still maintain that I see HPU's selective usage of primarily whites in their marketing as patently racist and offensive. But that's just my humble opinion.

[kimo55]

I still maintain that I see HPU's selective usage of primarily whites in their marketing as patently racist and offensive. But that's just my humble opinion.

uh, no. That is most emphatically nowhere near the neighbrborhood of a
"humble opinion"

You are bound and determined to feel offended. Good luck in yer unhumble endeavor.

[kahalabrah]

you said: "uh, no. That is most emphatically nowhere near the neighbrborhood of a
"humble opinion"

You are bound and determined to feel offended. Good luck in yer unhumble endeavor."


I can't understand why all the white people on this forum refuse to see the facts:

1. HPU uses, almost exclusively, whites to market their predominantly asian-american/local university

2. HPU virtually excludes asian males in all marketing material.

3. If points 1 and/or 2 are factually correct then some form of racism exists.

It is an opinion based on indesputible facts available to anyone.

[kimo55]

see kimo's response.

[kimo55]

3. If points 1 and/or 2 are factually correct then some form of racism exists.

It is an opinion based on indesputible facts available to anyone.

wrongo, chucko. You are in no way privy to what HPU believes.
since the word "racism" is defined as :
a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"
...makes yer claim of racism null and void and irrelevant, and superfluous and illogical, and ridculous, and inciting, and inflammatory, and racist, and closeminded, and simpleminded, and...

but as before, good luck in yer endeavor in finding waldo, where waldo ain't.

[pzarquon]

I can't understand why all the white people on this forum refuse to see the factsCare to share your census of Caucasian members of this forum? It seems like a pretty good mix of people from different backgrounds have been humoring your rallying cry against HPU's evil, racist campaign. I disagree with your assessment, and I ain't white, and I most assuredly find your "facts" to be questionable at best.
HPU uses, almost exclusively, whites to market their predominantly asian-american/local universityAre you even reading what others are posting, or just reading off someone's talking points? We've all cited examples of non-whites used in HPUs ads. And I've said at least three times that HPU is most certainly not "predominantly Asian-American." Hell, I wonder if they're predominantly anything American, given again their strong international student body (with probably the highest representation of European countries of any school here). So, fact one, as you've so helpfully numbered, not proven, and probably not true.
2. HPU virtually excludes asian males in all marketing material.See above. There have been Asian males in contemporary television ads, and as others have reminded me, they also had a "all the countries of HPU" TV ad where the diverse backgrounds of their student body was highlighted -- from Fiji to Hawaii Kai, from Indonesia to Norway. Fact two? Definitely false.
3. If points 1 and/or 2 are factually correct then some form of racism exists. It is an opinion based on indesputible facts available to anyone.Except your "facts" are anything but, and are certainly not "factually correct," and for all your mea culpas and "I'm just trying to start a conversation here," it seems you're completely unwilling to concede you may be off track, and all I'm seeing here is a relentless and closed-minded effort to indict HPU of some horrible and largely imaginary crime.

[kahalabrah]

I apologize if I've offended anyone. But please understand that my opinion is of a mainland born/raised asian-american. My views may be slightly distorted but I stand by them.

Thank you.

[kimo55]

I apologize if I've offended anyone. But please understand that my opinion is of a mainland born/raised asian-american. My views may be slightly distorted but I stand by them.

Thank you.


Your opinion is offence. Either we gotta be offended, you must be offended, we may be offended....

Jay Zeus keerice.


"To the jaundiced eye, everything appears yellow"
Aristotle

[LikaNui]

I can't understand why all the white people on this forum refuse to see the facts: Damn, I've got so many angry comebacks to that comment that I just can't decide which one to use. :mad:
So I'll just say this: I smell a troll.
KahalaBrah, if you were so unhappy on the mainland and you're still unhappy here, maybe you should very seriously consider moving to Asia. No, wait. You'd still be unhappy, because they want to emulate the western lifestyle and use haoles in their ads too. (And I notice you never did answer my questions about that in my earlier reply.) You refuse to listen to anyone here.
AHA! I've got the perfect spot for you: ANTARCTICA. :)
Have a nice trip. Don't let the door hit you in your paranoid butt on the way out.
:rolleyes:

[scrivener]

I happen to have an HPU pamphlet here; it's from the center for graduate studies, specifically about the new M.Ed. program (in which I enrolled today). I thought it might be useful to take a look at it. I don't think it will confirm or disprove KahalaBrah's original post, since I think he's mostly talking about print advertisements, and this is something quite a bit different, but at the same time, it is at least something concrete and present.

Cover: Two photographs. One shows an Asian male and a very, very attractive Asian female. I hope she's in one of my classes. The other shows a woman of unknown ethnic background, but if I had to guess I'd say half Euro, half Hispanic.

Inside Front Cover: Four students -- one male and three female -- three of whom can be seen clearly. All three clearly visible students are Caucasian, 'though one looks like he's of mixed ancestry. One student who can only be seen from the side looks Filipino to me.

Page One: One photograph, two male and two female students. Two Asians, two Caucasians.

Page Four: One photograph of an HPU professor. I'm willing to bet Hispanic or Filipino. Her first name's Valentina. I guess that doesn't prove anything, and she could easily be Caucasian, but she's the director of the program, so I think her picture would be in here regardless of her ethnic ancestry.

Page Five: One photograph of a male, mostly Caucasian-looking professor, also one of the professors in the program.

Page Six: One photograph of a male professsor of what looks like mixed ancestry. Perhaps African, perhaps southern Italian. Can't really tell.

Page Seven: One photograph of three women. One looks mostly Caucasian. The other two look mostly Pacific Islander.

Page Eight: Two photographs. One is of the Dean of the college of Liberal Arts -- I'd guess Filipino. The other is of two men and a woman, all of whom look mostly Caucasian.

Page Nine: One photograph of the inside of the Center for Graduate Studies (I was just there this morning). I see one Asian woman with nice thighs who I think helped me get registered this morning, two Caucasian women, one Pacific Islander woman, and two Caucasian men.

Well. There you go. I don't know what this indicates, if anything. Other than the fact that I need a date, I mean.

[Jonah K]

I apologize if I've offended anyone. But please understand that my opinion is of a mainland born/raised asian-american. My views may be slightly distorted but I stand by them.

Thank you.
Aloha kahalabrah,

As a mainland-born and raised Asian American, you've probably got some issues that need to be resolved. You might want to read some of the works of Dr. Stanley Sue, a clinical psychology professor at UC Davis that specializes in Asian American mental health issues. :cool:

Best of luck,

Jonah K

[arturo_h]

Reading posts about relocating to Hawai’i from the mainland, and others about general life in Hawai’i, am I correct to assume that KahalaBra’s attitude is the wrong one to have when moving/living in Hawai’i? It seems to me one needs an open mind at least. As a Mexican-American I’ve never in all my days felt “under-represented” and would never suspect Hawai’i as being racist. Then again it wouldn’t be up to me since, as a newcomer, its Hawaii’s way, not mine. Seems to me just another “mainlander” trying to push beliefs on “locals” who’ve lived here all their lives. If you want any chance on living here KahalaBra, I would suggest an open mind and closed mouth. It takes time, maybe even a lifetime to understand Hawai’i and to adapt yourself (and not the other way around) to its customs, culture and way of life.
Arturo

[LikaNui]

I happen to have an HPU pamphlet here; it's from the center for graduate studies, specifically about the new M.Ed. program (in which I enrolled today). I thought it might be useful to take a look at it. And just now when I came online, the first thing I did was go to HPU's website at http://hpu.edu . I pretty much found the balance you describe from the pamphlet, Scriv. And not even a hint of the racism that KahalaBrah claims exists.
"Paranoia runs deep, if into your mind it will creep..."
:rolleyes:

[LikaNui]

am I correct to assume that KahalaBra’s attitude is the wrong one to have when moving/living in Hawai’i? Does the phrase "HELL YES" ring a familiar bell?

[helen]

I apologize if I've offended anyone. But please understand that my opinion is of a mainland born/raised asian-american. My views may be slightly distorted but I stand by them.

From your postings you have issues with HPU. My suggestion would be for you to take it up with the management of HPU. If you feel that HPU violated your civil rights in one form or another there are governmental agenices that you can contact about this, off hand I don't know exactly which ones.

[kimo55]

Oh Helen, sometimes you crack me up! ok, nudder gold star. or green mark.
too funny.

[lurkah]

Oh Helen, sometimes you crack me up! ok, nudder gold star. or green mark.
too funny.
Speaking of green marks, at first I thought I was seeing double. I was wrong. I was seeing triple! :eek:


http://allthingshawaiian.com/lurkah/tempgraphics/kimopoints.jpg

[kimo55]

I just meant anoddah pos rep point to helen for that witty post, but yea... where those chicklettes come from?!

[1stwahine]

This is too hard a topic for me to be discussing. However, did someone say they needed a date? nah, I just joking with you ya.

Auntie Lynn