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Menehune Man
October 1st, 2005, 11:40 AM
On the island of Flores, which is between Bali and East Timor, scientists have found the bones of seven tiny humans in a remote cave named Liang Bua(Cold Cave) . They named the whole new species "Homo floresiensis". At just three feet tall and weighing under sixty pounds, they made tools and hunted pygmy elephants. It is believed that they lived as recently as thirteen thousand years ago, coexisting with modern humans. Here, in this remote, volcano-rimmed valley, they had survived by hunting pygmy elephants, Komodo Dragons and giant rats whose bones were also found in the cave. I got this info from the latest (Sept./Oct.) issue of Islands Magazine. The article's titled "Sailing Beyond Bali- Part One". For this thread Legends are okay but really looking for facts. Here's a quick LINK (www.islands.com/toc.asp)
kimo55
October 1st, 2005, 12:23 PM
here's a fact:
of course, menehune can not come from around the world. being indigenous to Hawaii.
and also, menehune is singular and plural.
no such thing as "menehunes"
Menehune Man
October 1st, 2005, 01:10 PM
In Fiji they're called Veli, in Ireland they're called Leprecauns, in Africa they're called Pygmy-(can I put an "S" here) and so on around the world. Here in Hawai'i they're called Menehune-(sorry for the "S" Kimo) and may be indigenous, but beings resembling them appear to be elsewhere also. Anyways, at least they're not considered diety, though they are helpful little buggers. :rolleyes:
Glen Miyashiro
October 1st, 2005, 02:45 PM
In Fiji they're called Veli, in Ireland they're called Leprecauns, in Africa they're called Pygmy-(can I put an "S" here) and so on around the world. Here in Hawai'i they're called Menehune-(sorry for the "S" Kimo) and may be indigenous, but beings resembling them appear to be elsewhere also. Anyways, at least they're not considered diety, though they are helpful little buggers. :rolleyes:Except that the African Pygmies are undeniably real people -- you can talk to them and take photos of them and everything. The others have never been documented by modern people and are either just stories or are really really good at hiding.
GypsyLika
October 1st, 2005, 02:54 PM
In Cherokee stories (both North Carolina and Oklahoma) they are just called Little People. Their stories are similar to da menehune ones.
Stephen
October 1st, 2005, 11:17 PM
Kimo,
While I find your sarcasm humorous, I'm going to have to call you on this one. Indigenous humans/menehune in the Hawaiian islands is, shall we say, oxymoronic? The early Polynesian inhabitants (as well as any Menehune that may have been in the Hawaiian islands) were transplants, thus not indigenous. Right?
Trying to Find an Apartment in Honolulu!
kimo55
October 2nd, 2005, 12:30 AM
No sarcasm or humor intended.
Sorry, but this time I am serious.
They are as close to indigenous as anyone else. more so, in fact.
that's good enuff in my book.
Rickyrab
October 6th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Of course, even Ireland has its banshees, its sidhies and its faeries...
Anyway, there might've been real Menehune, but they did have to come from somewhere. Besides, as far as scientists know, humans originated in Africa, so obviously the menehune's ancestors came from somewhere other than Hawai'i! (or is that Havaiki?)
kimo55
October 6th, 2005, 05:36 PM
obviously the menehune's ancestors came from somewhere other than Hawai'i! (or is that Havaiki?)
and those ancestors came from somewhere too.
da hellzit matter, they are Hawaiian. Hawaiian roots. More Hawaiian than anything else. and don't bring faeries into the equation.
kimo55
October 7th, 2005, 01:00 AM
African Pygmies are undeniably real people -- you can talk to them and
but don't talk down to them. nooo. they hate that.
Jonah K
October 7th, 2005, 07:52 AM
Aloha Kākou,
Considering that manahune is the Tahitian word for maka'āinana (commoner), one could probably speculate as to what occurred and how the story of the Hawaiian menehune came into existence. The stories of some of the the indigenous "pygmy" tribes (namely the Aeta, Abian, Agta, Ati, Cimmaron, Isarog, and Tabangnon) of the Philippines are probably more interesting. ;)
Cheers,
Jonah K
Menehune Man
October 7th, 2005, 08:15 AM
Aloha Kākou,
The stories of some of the the indigenous "pygmy" tribes (namely the Aeta, Abian, Agta, Ati, Cimmaron, Isarog, and Tabangnon) of the Philippines are probably more interesting. ;)
Cheers,
Jonah K
Can you share some photos or stories? That'd be cool.
Menehune Man
October 7th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Here's some info (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis) on the Flores people. Also a definition for pygmy is... A racial designation of dark-skinned people who live in equatorial rain forests and average less than 59 inches in height. Sounds like a definition of menehune.
kimo55
October 7th, 2005, 10:02 AM
59 inches in height. Sounds like a definition of menehune.
a five foot high menehune? I dunnthingsewwww...
Glen Miyashiro
October 11th, 2005, 08:23 AM
More fossil "hobbit" bones have been found (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8128) on Flores Island in Indonesia, strengthening the case that they represent a separate human species, Homo floresiensis. Whether these little guys had anything to do with menehune, who knows.
GypsyLika
October 11th, 2005, 09:56 AM
Here's some info (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis) on the Flores people. Also a definition for pygmy is... A racial designation of dark-skinned people who live in equatorial rain forests and average less than 59 inches in height. Sounds like a definition of menehune.
Hey I resemble that remark :) I'm dark, 59 inches and use to live in a rainforest ~ I stay mainland now, I'm part menehune, who Knew? :D
kimo55
October 11th, 2005, 09:58 AM
I stay mainland now, I'm part menehune, who Knew?
well you did. But no one else, that's why yer telling us.
Paul
October 11th, 2005, 02:01 PM
http://www.hawaiiantrading.com/herb-kane/ah-book/c3.html
http://www.janeresture.com/necker/index.htm
http://www.janesoceania.com/hawaii_kauai_mythology/index.htm
http://www.tribalsite.com/articles/necker.htm
Check out the above links. The menehune seem to have been a real people who were the first inhabitants of the Hawaiian islands. They were displaced and driven north by later arriving invaders who now call themselves native. Artifacts left by these people have been found on Necker, one of the northern islands in the Hawaiian archipelago. The Hawaiians at the time of contact had no knowledge of Necker.
Menehune Man
October 12th, 2005, 07:26 AM
Thanks Paul! That was all great info. I know menehune are a real people and their kind is all around the world. Mahalo nui loa Aloha.
Paul
October 14th, 2005, 06:37 AM
I found this clown who obviously read this thread and posted on Craig's list trying to make a political statement.
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/rnr/103558250.html
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/rnr/104005787.html
kimo55
October 14th, 2005, 06:48 AM
Hey. maybe Polynesians are a real people and their kind is all around the world, too.
Menehune Man
October 14th, 2005, 09:04 AM
[QUOTE=Paul]I found this clown who obviously read this thread and posted on Craig's list trying to make a political statement.
Wow, that person sure has "issues". Can't we all just get along?!
I thought Craigslist was kinda an EBay of sorts. Supposed to be selling something, right?
kimo55
October 14th, 2005, 09:06 AM
I just want to be alone with my Playboy issues.
kimo55
October 14th, 2005, 09:06 AM
I thought Craigslist was kinda an EBay of sorts. Supposed to be selling something, right?
nope. wrong.
Rickyrab
October 14th, 2005, 03:15 PM
[QUOTE=Paul]I found this clown who obviously read this thread and posted on Craig's list trying to make a political statement.
Wow, that person sure has "issues". Can't we all just get along?!
I thought Craigslist was kinda an EBay of sorts. Supposed to be selling something, right?
No comment.
MadAzza
October 14th, 2005, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=Menehune Man]
No comment.
But that *is* a comment.
Menehune Man
October 15th, 2005, 11:32 AM
Isn't it "funny" how we can get sooo far off the thread topic. All I was asking for was what sort of stories, fiction or non, along with any biological evidence, present day or past, that anyone would like to share concerning the little peoples of the world. Menehune and the like. Paul had the best post to date.
kimo55
October 15th, 2005, 12:19 PM
Isn't it "funny" how we can get sooo far off the thread topic. All I was asking for was what sort of stories,
yea, people! stay on topic, gawddayumitahell!
I like mayonnaise.
Rickyrab
October 15th, 2005, 01:19 PM
[QUOTE=Rickyrab]
But that *is* a comment.
Perhaps. But it's a comment that I'm trying not to make a comment. :) As for little people, that's who wealthy landlady Leona Helmsley, the "Queen of Mean", said taxes were for. (To be fair, she had actually said it was her husband and the "little people" that pay taxes, but she still ticked off plenty of New Yorkers all the same. She's an idiot.)
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