Who smokes here?

[adrian]

Again, there will be a confidential poll, but if you want to speak out, then go right ahead.

Of course, I don't smoke because I'm too young, and I've seen what smoking can do to you.

(atleast I didn't forget the poll)

[Lalalinder]

Not anymore, and that is probably the reason that a lot of people who meet me for the first time think that I am the youngest of my three sisters. I am the oldest, but the others still smoke, and oh man, does it ever age you before your time. It does something terrible to the skin as well as the lungs.

[kimo55]

no I do not.
I am one of the few ay murr icuns that have read the reports and seen da photos and see the damage secondhand smoke causes and know the discomfort it causes everyone else and see the litter caused by it and know i have enuff "vices" that i don't need to shorten my life that way also....

[MadAzza]

I quit about 15 years ago.

[Composite 2992]

Not me.

My dad, his two best friends and a lot of my relatives all succumbed to emphysema or lung cancer. It's a deadly habit.

[Glen Miyashiro]

Only when I'm really hot.

[jdub]

despite the fact that i work in the news, have a mother who surived breast cancer and has a a fistfull of tragic stories of friends who've died from cancer and i know several people currently undergoing chemotherapy, i still smoke like a chimney...

yes, it is a filthy, nervous habit/addiction, but the tobacco conglomerate got their hooks into me at the tender age of 13...and, as the experts insist, it was peer pressure that got me started...

i've never even tried to quit, even when my own mother was bed-ridden after her bout with cancer...i get cranky when i want to smoke and don't have one, and have on many occaisions i've debased myself by foraging my own ashtrays for remnants...i smoke when i'm nervous, relaxed, after a meal, when i'm drinking and all points in between...i've considered hypno-therapy, but i'm too cynical to waste my time with psycho-juju modalities that may have proved effective for some but lack empirical evidence that it actually works with demonstrable consistency...

i remain a vigilant advocate of smoker rights, having played in major cities with anti-smoking laws and huddled in brutally cold weather with other smokers to grab a puff like refugees from a populist autocracy...i hate it when i'm in a smoker-friendly bar and some sanctimonious creep vibes me when i light up...go to TGIF, carrie nation...

smoking is bad for you, yes, but with all of the research going into the evils of tobacco, why can't someone figure out and market a way to quit cold turkey? i'd spend a year's worth of marlboro mediums for that product...

[alohabear]

Are we talking about tobacco? :D

[mel]

I never smoked a day in my life and never will. To me smoking is a huge waste of money, not to mention all of the bad things it does to your health.

[kimo55]

the tobacco conglomerate got their hooks into me at the tender age of 13.
the experts insist, it was peer pressure that got me started.
why can't someone figure out and market a way to quit cold turkey?
.
Yes. Damn those conglomerates, experts, peers, and inventors with no cold turkey remedy! It IS their fault!

[pzarquon]

with all of the research going into the evils of tobacco, why can't someone figure out and market a way to quit cold turkey? i'd spend a year's worth of marlboro mediums for that product...Well, a company that sells a cure makes only one sale to you. The company that sells cigarettes probably gets your money for the rest of your life.

There's money to be made in a miracle cure, sure, but there's more money in addiction. And... well, that's the nature of addiction, isn't it? It's chemical, but psychological, too.

I've never smoked, and never will... in part because I always suspected I'd be very susceptible to getting hooked. There's just something terrifying about being in a position to want something so badly, even when you know it's going to kill you some day.

I imagine at least with harder drugs, rational thinking about consequences are conveniently blurred and numbed! :p

[GypsyLika]

Only when I'm really hot.

I am scared of you. :D

[GypsyLika]

I use to. Sometimes I want to. I know I shouldn't. So I don't. I was thinking of asking my doctor for some medical marijuana but nah ~ maybe wen I'm really in pain. :D

[kimo55]

Well, a company that sells a cure makes only one sale to you.
and a company that sells a semi cure while promising grand results, (as many do) sells often to the, um... suckah.

[alohabear]

Do you smoke after sex? I don't know? Never checked!

[Albert]

Have for almost 52 years and don't expect to stop until they put me in the coffin ... and even then, I might sit up and ask for one last smoke. :)

[AbsolutChaos]

I don't and never will either. I see the sad results of long-term smoking in many of the patients who present for open heart surgery. They are much harder to ventilate and oxygenate when under anesthesia. Obviously they have more problems in recovery afterward too.

My mom was severely allergic to smoke, and I've picked up some of her allergies, not to mention that I detest the smell of cigarettes. We would have to leave restaurants, even when seated in non-smoking areas, if the areas weren't separated enough. I still remember quite vividly my mom's struggle to breathe and the loud wheezing. :(

I'm glad so many public places have restricted smoking (sorry, smokers, nothing personal), since smoke seems to carry into non-smoking areas very easily, plus the odors are so difficult to remove from clothes and hair.

[kimo55]

I'm glad so many public places have restricted smoking (sorry, smokers, nothing personal), since smoke seems to carry into non-smoking areas very easily, plus the odors are so difficult to remove from clothes and hair.
I wish more were nonsmoking.
Go into the side street inn now and then and the whole place suddenly is filled with human chimneys.
Without notice, you are ambushed by smoke, fumes, toxins, airborne carcinogens. I thot "da hell!? each one of these many rooms are smoking!"

[lavagal]

I did in high school because it was the way to get in with the wrong crowd. How stupid is that? Then I did it in the USAF because only the people who smoked got to take breaks. How stupid is THAT?

I haven't smoked for 25 years, and only smoked for maybe all told four months of my life. I now have a neighbor who is banned to his garage to smoke, which he does at all hours of the day. I've lamented this here before: he smokes when I'm in the shower, in bed, etc. My bedroom and bath is pretty much right next to his garage. My asthma suffers tremendously as a result. Of course, he'll probably be one of those bastards who smoke until they are 98 and his smoke will kill ME.

I relentlessly picked on Jdub when we worked together but it never worked. I even tell him that he stinks, even his fingers and stuff. As I recalled, he'd take a finger, stick it up his nose, pick a winner and declare me WRONG. I can't remember if he then sucked it off or flicked it at me. We're still friends, LOL.

[kimo55]

Jeez Looeez! Taaanx. right in da meedow of lunch.


that is this jdub here on HT?
naaawww...
lends new meaning to the image of the guitar player "a pickin and a grinnin"

[lavagal]

Jeez Looeez! Taaanx. right in da meedow of lunch.


that is this jdub here on HT?
naaawww...
lends new meaning to the image of the guitar player "a pickin and a grinnin"


The one and ONLY. Hope I didn't make you hurl your kaukau!!!

Hey, and if you're driving home Kalanianaiole Hwy today, toward Hanauma Bay, HPD's motorcycle patrol are popping drivers from Keahole to Lunalilo Home Road. I mean, there must be 8-10 of them!!! I saw them on my way to Costco. When I was at the light to turn right on Kal, I saw my friend Sophie pull up behind me in her new BMW Roadster. I got out, ran to her and told her. It was all I could do for my friend!!!

[MadAzza]

smoking is bad for you, yes, but with all of the research going into the evils of tobacco, why can't someone figure out and market a way to quit cold turkey? i'd spend a year's worth of marlboro mediums for that product...

There already is a way. Do what I did.

Get drunk one night, smoke WAY too many cigarettes (handrolled, not those weenie factory-made kind), feel that poison leeching out of your pores the next day, and just quit. Stop buying 'em, stop lighting 'em. Don't expect some magical "someone" to help you, 'cause it ain't gonna happen. Just stop.

If you need more incentive, make a deal with yourself that if you screw up and smoke one, you have to take a $10 bill out of your wallet, light it on fire and let it burn up. After all, what's the difference?

That'll be $200. Quite a discount -- you probably spend at least ten times that on smokes every year.

Paying someone to kill you ... I just don't get it.

[kimo55]

motorcycle patrol are popping drivers from Keahole to Lunalilo Home Road. I mean, there must be 8-10 of them!!!
what do ya mean popping drivers?

[lavagal]

what do ya mean popping drivers?


Speeding tickets! Do you know anyone who does 35 on Kalanianaole Hwy ANYWHERE besides ME? Actually, I do more of a 40mph.
Once I turned left onto Lunalilo Home Road and right there is a solid line that I crossed before it ended. WHAM! $70 to the city. It would be an incredible tool for the city to raise funds to put a set of motorcycle cops right there. EVERYBODY crosses into the far lane upon that turn! (I used to, but not anymore!) Then again, I got POPPED by rookie cop!

[kimo55]

Speeding tickets! Do you know anyone who does 35 on Kalanianaole Hwy ANYWHERE besides ME?
oh. ok. ticketing peeps who uh.. "break the law".

No, I don't go over 35 on Kam hiway. I let eeevvvveeerrryyyone go past me. drive like a granny. I jezz like the old way of cruisin around like Hawaii was in the 60's before the mainlan... i mean, before it got so crowded.
I never cross solid lines. Nope. ....follow da law cuz got popped quite a while ago, and want to retain an impeccable record. In all my decades of driving; one moving violation. No, make that two. one for having brights on while an incoming car went past, (cop car) and... crossing a solid line; jumping the gun at a right turn, riding the shoulder for one car length before the lane lines opened up...

[jdub]

I relentlessly picked on Jdub when we worked together but it never worked. I even tell him that he stinks, even his fingers and stuff. As I recalled, he'd take a finger, stick it up his nose, pick a winner and declare me WRONG. I can't remember if he then sucked it off or flicked it at me. We're still friends, LOL.

yowza! lavagal, i've never flicked a booger at you (they're neatly collected on the underside of the boss' desk--hahahahaha)...i do recall you busting my chops about smoking, but olfactory excavation and disposal?...i suspect you're being cheeky...

i've got a new crib inside which i do not smoke, and now i'm working longer hours, so i've actually cut down without even trying...even when i play gigs, i get one smoke during breaks because everyone else in the band is sensitive to smoke...so i don't get to look "cool" with a smoke hanging from my lips as i tear into a rock-god guitar solo...

and for the rest: i certainly don't blame anyone but me for my filthy, nervous habit, or look to anyone else to get me to quit...now, if you don't mind, i'm going outside for a smoke...

[craigwatanabe]

Try driving on the Big Island. It seems the shoulder is considered a passing, merge or exit lane by quite a few drivers here, and it's okay to turn left from the center lane regardless if there's a car in the left turn lane already.

Oh and the cops don't seem to mind if your Toyota Pickup truck has tires that extend beyond the wheel well's outer lip.

Oh smoking sorry let's get back OT. I don't smoke...anymore but when I did it was Camels Unfiltered, why?

A friend of mine and I were pondering why cigarette butts don't catch fire when tossed in a fire. It seems the filter tip has an all too familiar component in it's design...asbestos. Yep the same stuff used in brake linings, fire retardant suits, you know the flame resistant stuff?

well when you take in a huge drag off of one of these babies, some of these fibers go right into your lungs. I took an Asbestos awareness class once and the instructor there said all it takes is one asbestos fiber to start some kind of fibrosis (scarring) of the lungs which can lead to lung cancer. It may take years if not decades for the scarring to become cancerous, but just one is all it takes to start the process and there's a ton of em in them butts.

One thing I've always wondered though is Jdub's statement that there are smokers rights. Really? I've never seen them. I know there is a constitutional right to bear arms and such as well as constitutional protection barring from sexual, religious, race discrimination but I don't ever recall seeing any constitutional right to smoke a cigarette unless it comes under freedom of speech, but then you're not speaking, you're smoking. So if you gotta smoke...talk at the same time and then your constitutionally protected. :D

Freedom to choose? Yeah life or death but I don't think the forefathers meant for smoking to be one of those options.

So the next time your boss tells you to put out them smokes, tell him/her that smoking makes you feel more masculine or feminine and restricting you from smoking is sexual discrimination that is forbidden by your company's sexual harassassment policy, so BACK OFF MAN AND LET ME BE A WOMAN/MAN TONIGHT!!! Got a light? :D

[Pomai]

It's so ironic when you see someone who's smoked mega-tar unfiltered Camels their entire life live well into their 90's.

Then someone who doesn't smoke or drink, abstains from fats and runs marathons die of a heart attack in their 40's. This happened to an Olympic runner not long ago.

Then again, the recent passing of Peter Jennings to lung cancer is a good example of why not to smoke. I think he was in his mid-60's.

Also, did Bob Marley die of lung cancer? I know he was very young. Like mid-30's. They say Marijuana (when smoked) has something like 3 times the tar level of the strongest Cigarette on the market.

[Glen Miyashiro]

A friend of mine and I were pondering why cigarette butts don't catch fire when tossed in a fire. It seems the filter tip has an all too familiar component in it's design...asbestos. Yep the same stuff used in brake linings, fire retardant suits, you know the flame resistant stuff?I did a little googling and it looks like asbestos was only used in cigarette filters in one brand, Kent, and only for a few years in the 1950s. Most filters these days are made of an acetate plastic.

[Leo Lakio]

Most filters these days are made of an acetate plastic.
Ah - a substance that is probably GOOD for your lungs; time for me to start smoking, eh? :rolleyes:

(Anyone here remember the old Jules Feiffer comic about air pollution, and the promotional slogan, "Big Black Specks Are Good For You!"?)

[tutusue]

It's so ironic when you see someone who's smoked mega-tar unfiltered Camels their entire life live well into their 90's.[...]
My dad was one of those. Well, he didn't live into his 90s but he did make it to 85 having started smoking Camels before he was a teen and continuing 'til he was 75...3 packs a day. Then, one day, he quit cold-turkey. Soon after, his health problems began. Weird how that happens.

[backwoodlessons2]

Again, there will be a confidential poll, but if you want to speak out, then go right ahead.

Of course, I don't smoke because I'm too young, and I've seen what smoking can do to you.

(atleast I didn't forget the poll)

Neither do I and because of the exact same reasons also. And my sister did a science fair project on what smoking does to you last year. Nasty :eek:

[kimo55]

I don't.
I smoke over there.

[Pomai]

My dad was one of those. Well, he didn't live into his 90s but he did make it to 85 having started smoking Camels before he was a teen and continuing 'til he was 75...3 packs a day. Then, one day, he quit cold-turkey. Soon after, his health problems began. Weird how that happens.

My grandmother smoked menthol cigarettes her whole life. When she was put in Lunalilo Home (a care home for kupuna of Hawaiian descent), the nurses didn't want her to smoke. My mother INSISTED they not stop her. So they allowed mom to visit her and have a smoke together.

My grandmother lived to her mid-90's.

[Leo Lakio]

`Ukulele player Bill Tapia, who is 97 and still touring, says he only quit smoking (on doctor's orders) about 11 years ago, after a life-long habit.

It's obvious that smoking ain't the only thing that's going to determine the length of your lifespan, and every smoker I know has heard every argument possible on why they should quit - most of them agree, but it's just not that easy to do.

[Pomai]

Most people I know who were successful at quitting used the COLD TURKEY method.

A few I know tried the nicotine patch without success. Only one person I know who followed the program was successful with it. One person's told me they would often have strange dreams when they slept with the patch on. Weird.

I've also seen nictotine pills, disguised as breath mints. Never heard anyone who's tried that program yet.

You'd think just the cost alone would encourage people to quit. A carton of name brand cigarettes runs what.. about $40-50 buck now? Ouch!

Then again, look at the price gasoline. No matter how HIGH that goes, consumers arent' going to quit driving. They'll just continue to fill'er up. ;)

[Leo Lakio]

Then again, look at the price gasoline. No matter how HIGH that goes, consumers arent' going to quit driving. They'll just continue to fill'er up. ;)
Combine the two habits, and smoke gasoline - guaranteed to make you quit.

[Mokihana]

Never have, never will.

[SouthKona]

There is a new state quitline at 800-784-8669.
According to their card, their free service "will even help you get nicotine replacement therapy like the patch free for the uninsured".

[Pomai]

There is a new state quitline at 800-784-8669.
According to their card, their free service "will even help you get nicotine replacement therapy like the patch free for the uninsured".

Does HMSA and/or Kaiser's HMO program offer free patches for their members?

If so, I have a friend trying to quit who can take advantage of that.

[pzarquon]

Since we've had several (http://hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=2422) smoking (http://www.hawaiithreads.com/showthread.php?t=4679) threads, I'll just bump this one with this update:

Smoking gets no voter sympathy (http://starbulletin.com/2005/12/14/news/story06.html)
A majority of Hawaii voters believe smoking should be prohibited in all enclosed public places, including restaurants and bars, according to a survey sponsored by anti-tobacco groups. The Coalition for a Tobacco Free Hawaii found that 85 percent of 605 Hawaii registered voters who were surveyed by Ward Research Inc., from Oct. 28 to Nov. 5, said there should be a statewide law to prohibit smoking in enclosed public places.The focus on restaurants, bars, and indoor areas (and their immediate entryways) was interesting, but I'd have loved to see an extra question about smoking in certain outdoor venues, such as beaches, or open-air facilities.

[1stwahine]

I've been a die hard smoker for years. A sneaky smoker who said I would quit but never did because I loved to smoked. Well, I hate smoking!!!!!!!! I need to breath. I need the air. I'm grasping for air for the past couple of weeks. I've got pneumonia!!! Is this fair warning of things to come for me? You bet your sweet beepy it is!

Ban All Places From Smokers!

Smoke Free Environment ~ Save Lives! :D

Auntie Lynn

...what time is it?

[jdub]

i'm sorry, but banning smoking in bars? come on...these are places for grown ups who can make their own choices...a ban on smoking in bars would infuriate me...restaurants, offices, public buildings, schools, hospitals...that's all fine...but there's only room for me on my barstool, so get off me!

[1stwahine]

coughing, coughing till i'm Blue in the face! Ban SMOKING!
Everywhere! :rolleyes:


Aunty Lynn :D

[Miulang]

The State of WA just started enforcing a no smoking law in all public places, which means if you want a ciggy, you have to be more than 25 ft away from the front door or any windows. Some bars will no doubt suffer, but there are many restaurants and bars and bowling alleys who will enjoy increased business because of the no smoking ban. Some bar owners have been thoughtful enough to set up "smokers lounges" in an outside tent, with propane heaters to keep the smokers warm.

Miulang

[Lisheous]

Me, I raise my hand, well, I used too. I did it for 20 years and now I've been smoke free for 11 1/2 years. Praise the Lord! I thought I would never quit, but I did.

[manoasurfer123]

I would like to apologize to anyone I may have snapped at for the last 36 hours.

I'm doing my best to quit smoking....

The patch works...but you sure want to keep your hands busy by eating or doing something else....

and you still get moody...

[Pua'i Mana'o]

what worked for me was to figure out my trigger periods and try to rewire them for a month. In my case, it was during my commute. So I would combat this by buying bottles of funky liquids that I have no interest in, nor would ever try since (bizarre amp drinks, funky snapples, you know the kind). Yes, the majority of them tasted like butt, yet after a month, I then switched to bottled water.

Address your oral fixation with something healthy. And fill your hands up; a bottle in the palm is better than a deathstick between two fingers.

[MadAzza]

I would like to apologize to anyone I may have snapped at for the last 36 hours.

I'm doing my best to quit smoking....

The patch works...but you sure want to keep your hands busy by eating or doing something else....

and you still get moody...

Oh, yeah? Well, f*** you! Shut up! Just shut up! F*** you mother****er!

Who the *** do you think you are?? F***ing *** **er ***ing **** **** *******er!!!!

See, I quit 16 years ago and it still pisses me off. :D

[1stwahine]

Oh, yeah? Well, f*** you! Shut up! Just shut up! F*** you mother****er!

Who the *** do you think you are?? F***ing *** **er ***ing **** **** *******er!!!!

See, I quit 16 years ago and it still pisses me off. :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm going on my third week...I tink.:confused: I'm grouchy and moody!heheheh

Manoa, come to my HALE ~ we can give each other Whack Whacks!!!:p

Auntie Lynn

[manoasurfer123]

IF thats the case F*%^&*%^&^ everyone and let me just freaking eat some more chocolate:rolleyes:

[craigwatanabe]

Only when I'm really hot.

And when you're not all dolled up you abstain?:D

[Pua'i Mana'o]

note to self:

develop the Pissy Patch.

Make millions.

Liscense it out to the gun manufacturing companies, so that covert application methods can be created.

Make more millions.

Liscense to Pepsi and let them add it to their flava.

Come close to Bill Gates' net worth.

Donate a portion of my net proceeds to those poor Adult Children of Pissaholics.

Feel good on my deathbed.

[blueyecicle]

note to self:

develop the Pissy Patch.

Make millions.

.

You can sell it with the anti-stupid pill!!:p

[Pua'i Mana'o]

now, now....deficit model marketing is relegated to the pharmaceutical companies.

Cosmetics are a much more lucrative industry. Ergo, "The pro-intelligent pill....lessens the appearance of unsightly stupidity that increases with age".

MAY I HAVE 30 MINUTES OF TESTIMONIALS, PULEEEZE!
:p

[craigwatanabe]

Oh, yeah? Well, f*** you! Shut up! Just shut up! F*** you mother****er!

Who the *** do you think you are?? F***ing *** **er ***ing **** **** *******er!!!!

See, I quit 16 years ago and it still pisses me off. :D

And to think poor Kimo55 had to deal with that for as many years?:D No wonder he's an activist:eek:

[MadAzza]

And to think poor Kimo55 had to deal with that for as many years?:D No wonder he's an activist:eek:

YEARS??? Ah, no.

[Menehune Man]

I stopped smoking and drinking Oct. 4th. Once I truly made the decision, it wasn't that hard keeping to it. No patches or fake beer just herbal teas and prayer.
It worked for me. Thanks God!

[Keith H.]

Also, did Bob Marley die of lung cancer? I know he was very young. Like mid-30's. They say Marijuana (when smoked) has something like 3 times the tar level of the strongest Cigarette on the market.

He actually died of melanoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley#Battle_with_cancer), which is a good argument for everyone to wear sunscreen, but that's another thread.

[manoasurfer123]

I stopped smoking and drinking Oct. 4th. Once I truly made the decision, it wasn't that hard keeping to it. No patches or fake beer just herbal teas and prayer.
It worked for me. Thanks God!
Congrat's bro -

I bet the sensual healings went up too:eek:

I voted No... because technically right now I'm not...yeah?

[AlohaKine]

I was hoping everybody does. Remember your never too old start. Don't forget the positve health benefits like helping to stave off altimers disease, stress reduction, and weight control.

[AlohaKine]

The cool thing is that I can "smoke here" and no body can make me put it out -sweeeet.

[Leo Lakio]

helping to stave off altimers diseaseToo late for some...:p

[MadAzza]

Remember your never too old start. Don't forget the positve health benefits like helping to stave off altimers disease, stress reduction, and weight control.

Obviously too late to save your brain cells, but ... good thought!

[craigwatanabe]

He actually died of melanoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley#Battle_with_cancer), which is a good argument for everyone to wear sunscreen, but that's another thread.



See what Reggae music will do to ya:D

[LocoBoy]

I dont smoke regularly but when I used to have a few beers I'd get an urge for a drag or two. Now that I've stopped drinking as well, no urge. I actually made a deal with my wife, to improve our health she'd stop smoking and I'd stop drinking (even though it was casual). Were both reaping the benefits both physically and a few extra bucks in the pocket :).

[SouthKona]

He actually died of melanoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley#Battle_with_cancer), which is a good argument for everyone to wear sunscreen, but that's another thread.

Actually, he died of brain cancer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/1323905.stm

[AlohaKine]

The current total is over 20%, that's good.

[Serenity]

Of course, I don't smoke because I'm too young, and I've seen what smoking can do to you.

DITTO, Same here, too!!.



Not me. My dad, his two best friends and a lot of my relatives all succumbed to emphysema or lung cancer. It's a deadly habit.

My hubby's mom died of emphysema & cancer :( !!.

My grandparents died from cancer as well :( !!.

I don't plan on starting anytime soon!!.

[Serenity]

When people ask my hubby of he/she/they can smoke in his car/cab, his reply to that one is, always:

"Unless you are on fire.":D .

Otherwise, that's a definate NO!!.