Michelle Wie Disqualified from SamSung!

[talkstinkDotCom]

Argh! It's true.

From AP:

Michelle Wie's pro debut made her look like an amateur Sunday when she was disqualified for taking a bad drop from the bushes in the third round of the Samsung World Championship. Talk about a rude welcome to the professional world.

Wie hit a 5-wood into a Gold Lantana bush Saturday and was barely able to find it. She told Grace Park she was taking an unplayable lie, dropped away from the bush for a one-stroke penalty, then chipped to 15 feet and made the par. It was a critical par save, and Wie went on to a 71.

Check it out here (http://wieblog.com/) and comments are welcome.

[Rickyrab]

Well, she's a newbie, give her time, hopefully she'll be better at this.

[talkstinkDotCom]

Probably the worst thing about it is that someone with prior knowledge could have informed officials before she signed her scorecard on Saturday, thereby preventing a DQ. :eek:

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What bothers me is that a journalist -- with full knowledge of the incident and with a lot of time to get it straightened out -- waited until there was no time for recourse -- and THEN put forth his case to crush Michelle's debut.

Some might say that it's not a journalist's responsibility to police such things and that Bamburg didn't have to let PGA officials know about his concerns at the time of the incident. But if that's the case, then why do it long after the fact?

Sure makes it look like Bamburg did it with the calculated intent to create a controversy. He waited until it was too late for Michelle to extricate herself from the situation. If he felt the drop was improper, he had a lot of time to inform a course marshall so that the right action would be taken before Michelle had a chance to sign an incorrect score card. Instead he sat on it until it was too late. And it turned what could have been a wonderful experience into one that most would prefer to forget.

[scrivener]

She's a pro now. She's got to be able to take these things. I wish her the best in her next effort.

[tutusue]

She's a pro now. She's got to be able to take these things. I wish her the best in her next effort.
If this is the worst thing to happen to her during her pro career she'll be lucky. Still...BUMMERS! She was off to such a good start. Regardless, she has one heck of a career to look forward to. What a remarkable young lady.

[EastCoastTropics]

What bothers me is that a journalist -- with full knowledge of the incident and with a lot of time to get it straightened out -- waited until there was no time for recourse -- and THEN put forth his case to crush Michelle's debut.

Some might say that it's not a journalist's responsibility to police such things and that Bamburg didn't have to let PGA officials know about his concerns at the time of the incident. But if that's the case, then why do it long after the fact?

Sure makes it look like Bamburg did it with the calculated intent to create a controversy. He waited until it was too late for Michelle to extricate herself from the situation. If he felt the drop was improper, he had a lot of time to inform a course marshall so that the right action would be taken before Michelle had a chance to sign an incorrect score card. Instead he sat on it until it was too late. And it turned what could have been a wonderful experience into one that most would prefer to forget.


Bothers me too that he waited unitl there was no recourse and then said something! If he had any questions, he should've brought it up at that time.....gunnfunnit! :mad:

Here's another article that came out this morning on the incident. I'm sure there'll be more throughout the days to come.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051017/WIE17/TPSports/Other

It would be best to play it safe and call a rules official. I know when my husband competes and he has any questions whatsoever, he always calls a rules official.....no matter if he has to hold up the game a bit.

[MadAzza]

Argh! It's true.



Yeah, whatever. WTF is your avatar? Looks like something a 12-year-old kid would thing was way cool. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting it. If so, I apologize. If not ... Jeezus, grow the fuck up.

[alohabear]

As we in Hawaii say ....."Make A" Ms. Wie :p

[pzarquon]

I wanted to ask how often adverse rules actions like this are taken, as it sure seems unusual, especially at this level... but then I realized, it's not like having a 16-year-old in contention is common, either. Increased scrutiny and limited experience can make for some pretty crushing calls. She seems to have a good handle on what happened, though, and yes... from now on, when in doubt, have a rules official on hand.

I wonder how Annika Sorenstam feels about her big win being eclipsed by Wie's big D? I mean, I imagine anyone's win would've been eclipsed by Wie's finish anywhere in the top five, but... this story turned out to be a doozy!

[jdub]

I wanted to ask how often adverse rules actions like this are taken, as it sure seems unusual, especially at this level... but then I realized, it's not like having a 16-year-old in contention is common, either. Increased scrutiny and limited experience can make for some pretty crushing calls. She seems to have a good handle on what happened, though, and yes... from now on, when in doubt, have a rules official on hand.

I wonder how Annika Sorenstam feels about her big win being eclipsed by Wie's big D? I mean, I imagine anyone's win would've been eclipsed by Wie's finish anywhere in the top five, but... this story turned out to be a doozy!

word, yo...the big wiesey's got the golf world by the short and curlies for most of the foreseeable future...her pro debut was bound to be auspicious, and the fact that it turned out to be otherwise unusual with her DQ is not something that surprises me...with all of the talk of her turning pro and signing with nike and sony for unholy sums of money makes the fact that she didn't make a dime in her pro debut most fascinating...

[Linkmeister]

It's not entirely uncommon. Roberto DeVicenzo once DQ'ed from the US Open for signing an incorrect scorecard, and he'd been a pro for 10-15 years.

[Mocha]

P&P (Perry & Price) just ran a radio interview with Mark Rolfing, the golf announcer that did the color for NBC on the day of the incident and yesterday. Mr. Rolfing says that he feels that since the Sports Illustrated reporter felt that Michelle Wie had dropped her ball incorrectly he should have immediately called an official and reported it. P&P think that maybe for whatever reason Michael Bamberger wanted to "stick it" to her! :eek:

[Peshkwe]

Yeah, whatever. WTF is your avatar? Looks like something a 12-year-old kid would thing was way cool. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting it. If so, I apologize. If not ... Jeezus, grow the fuck up.

It's a chimp giving a kitty tubbies in a sink.....the next question is, where's the next gif where it shows kitty going buzzsaw on the chimp?

[MadAzza]

It's a chimp giving a kitty tubbies in a sink.....the next question is, where's the next gif where it shows kitty going buzzsaw on the chimp?

Thanks for the explanation. It looked really weird to me until you pointed that out. I won't even say what it looked like!

Further proof I should avoid HT at 1:30 a.m. when I'm tired and cranky ...

I apologize for being rude, TalkStinkDotCom.

[scrivener]

Annika is the most dominating golfer, male or female, ever; perhaps she is the most dominating single athlete in any sport. Her winning this thing is not news; it's news when she doesn't win. Michelle's first tournament as a pro IS news. Annika doesn't care, I'm quite sure.

[jdub]

Annika is the most dominating golfer, male or female, ever; perhaps she is the most dominating single athlete in any sport. Her winning this thing is not news; it's news when she doesn't win. Michelle's first tournament as a pro IS news. Annika doesn't care, I'm quite sure.

i tend to agree, scriv...the nature of the game is to play "your game" and block out the static of hype, pressure and everything else that can make or break you...sorenstam's win is testament to her competive nature and remarklable consistency...you don't have those qualities if you're overly concerned with someone else's game...and...wie's near hegemony on coverage in women's golf is going to taper unless she begins winning...then the circus will start all over again...

[EastCoastTropics]

P&P (Perry & Price) just ran a radio interview with Mark Rolfing, the golf announcer that did the color for NBC on the day of the incident and yesterday. Mr. Rolfing says that he feels that since the Sports Illustrated reporter felt that Michelle Wie had dropped her ball incorrectly he should have immediately called an official and reported it. P&P think that maybe for whatever reason Michael Bamberger wanted to "stick it" to her! :eek:

I agree...as does my husband....Bamberger should've called it immediately and not [insert bullshit-->>] "struggled with it overnight". :mad:

Advertiser online as a poll setup...."Was Wie treated fairly?" I think they should also include another poll as to reporting/questions to rules officials before the round is completed and the scorecards (for that round) are signed. I do know that once the entire tournament is complete and the money list has been handed out, that any penalty would be invalid.

The thing about this sport is that they don't have referees....maybe they should. I wonder how many other's would try to "stick it" to other golfers? Instead of following their favorite golfer, they would just follow golfers they don't like just in case they screw up and try to get them dq'ed.

[Palama Kid]

Subject: Conspiracy

Man, have you guys got it all wrong !!!

Imagine the Sunday broadcast without Wie??? No one would watch. If she had been DQd on Saturday, I would catch the NFL games, watch a movie, take my weekly shower, read a chess book, etc. Anything but watch Annika blast through the rest of the field. Boooorrring . . .

Like having Tiger in a PGA tournament, Wie's gonna be the reason to watch the LPGA for years to come.

So, with buku millions at stake, NBC told everyone to keep it quiet. How's that for a conspiracy?

Palama Kid

[Surfingfarmboy]

I've been trying to find out if Michelle Wie is officially going to play at the 2006 LPGA US Open in Newport, RI....I can't imagine why she wouldn't enter it, now that she's a pro, and in my opinion, the LPGA US Open is the most prestigious tournament in the ladies golf circuit...anyway, I came across this link about how Michelle is the talk of the town in Newport.

Newport wants Michelle in 2006 (http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2005/08/23/newport_r_i_of_all_places_gone_michelle)

She has rapidly become "the event" in any golfing tournament she enters.

Note: Article was written in this August before she officially went pro. Based on what I can construe from the article, Newport is going to go crazy if Michelle officially enters.

[LikaNui]

Ferd Lewis at the Advertiser has finally brought up a question I've been waiting to hear anywhere in the media (or anywhere else, for that matter): Why has no blame been thrown onto Wie's professional caddy?!?
It's his job to prevent problems like that, and his failure to catch the mistake is shameful.
See Ferd's column at http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051018/COLUMNISTS06/510180336/1142/SPORTS . (I actually think it should've been even stronger in condemning the caddie, but at least he brought it up.)

[alohabear]

Did you see Corky's cartoon (http://starbulletin.com/2005/10/18/news/corky.jpg) today? It says it all. :)

[kimo55]

Did you see Corky's cartoon (http://starbulletin.com/2005/10/18/news/corky.jpg) today? It says it all. :)
who is the 40 year old chunky cartoon woman?

[LikaNui]

There was a Letter To The Editor in today's Advertiser that said, in total:

It'll be a snowy day in Waikiki before Michelle Wie grants an exclusive interview to Sports Illustrated.
Dick O'Connell
Makiki

I disagree, and feel it would show even more of Michelle's class and maturity if she did grant them an exclusive interview. Hopefully, one that's on the topic of, or at least includes, what their own reporter did.

[Linkmeister]

There was a Letter To The Editor in today's Advertiser that said, in total:

It'll be a snowy day in Waikiki before Michelle Wie grants an exclusive interview to Sports Illustrated.
Dick O'Connell
Makiki

I disagree, and feel it would show even more of Michelle's class and maturity if she did grant them an exclusive interview. Hopefully, one that's on the topic of, or at least includes, what their own reporter did.

I'm a subscriber, and it'll be interesting to see if the writer/editors discuss the magazine's role in this episode.

[cezanne]

I'm surprised at the reaction by the golf public. It's as if she committed suicide. What's the big deal? :confused: She made a mistake... she'll learn from it. Gosh... are golfers really that fickle? :rolleyes:

[Linkmeister]

LA Times chastises (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-golfcol19oct19,1,4311540.story?coll=la-headlines-sports) Sports Illustrated. If its account of what SI is doing in this week's issue is accurate, then SI is milking the controversy for all it's worth, which is not what I expect out of it.

[EastCoastTropics]

Hey Surfingrarmboy, I'm trying to get my husband to buy us tix for the practice rounds and maybe one tournament day for the US Women's Open! Don't know yet as it's near an annual tourney that he usually competes in.

Linkmeister, thanks for the article. Like the article says, " Bamberger erred in not dealing with the situation Saturday. That would have prevented Wie's disqualification." If he would've just said something/complained then, she would've back-track her strokes, or even conferred with a rules official then. Any corrections could've then been made prior to signing her scorecard.

Yeah, Bamberger and SI are milking it fer sure! And Bamberger is getting his 15 minutes of fame and more.....

[talkstinkDotCom]

Thanks for the explanation. It looked really weird to me until you pointed that out. I won't even say what it looked like!

Further proof I should avoid HT at 1:30 a.m. when I'm tired and cranky ...

I apologize for being rude, TalkStinkDotCom.

No problem, I get worse verbage on any given day.

Although I don't think I want to know what you thought you saw in the footage of the monkey washing the kitty.

Back on topic:

As for Bamberger, it's a shame he wasn't considerate enough to report the infraction, but if that's the rules of golf as they play it then it ultimately comes down to the player's understanding of the rules.

The money lost would be a huge issue for me, but then I didn't sign a $10 million dollar endorsement deal the week prior.