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oldiron February 20th, 2019 09:14 PM

Is Anyone There?
 
Sure is quiet.

woodman May 14th, 2019 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oldiron (Post 290984)
Sure is quiet.

LOL.

I think this is what happens when bots & trolls are allowed to suppress dissenting opinions; you're left with nothing more than a boring echo-chamber.

...and once all of those echos die off, all you've got left is an empty chamber.

So, welcome to the EMPTY CAVE that was once "Hawaii Threads".

woodman May 22nd, 2019 06:24 PM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
HELLO,

...HELLOo,

...HELLooo,

...HElloooo,

...Hellooooo,

...hellooooo,

...ellooooo,

...ellooooo,

...loooooo,

...looooo,

...loooo,

...looo,

...ooo

...oo

...o, ...

woodman May 22nd, 2019 07:29 PM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldiron (Post 290984)
Sure is quiet.

Sorry oldiron, but if I had to guess I'd say that whatever public funding that may have been used to sponsor this site in the past is FAST running out to where they can't even pay trolls to make timely responses to dissenting opinions (like mine) anymore.

...and while the low-information crowd remain all too ready to scoff at the idea that Hawaii Threads might actually have been designed to function as little more than a community-data-gathering propaganda tool functioning largely for the benefit of bureaucratic elites, never forget that many of them are probably the SAME PEOPLE who would NOT ONLY site the recent rise in social media outlets (Fakebook, Twitter, Snapchat, etc.) as the cause of diminished traffic to THIS site, but could also be expected to downplay the covertly illicit data-gathering practices attributable to these social media sites:

https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2019...ata-about-you/

...even as these same social media sites conspire to willfully censor dissenting public opinions siting Identity Politics (racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe, etc.) as their justification.

https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-...ser-1775461006

https://www.propublica.org/article/f...nts-algorithms

http://www.facebookcensorship.com/

There are more such links to reports about Twitter, Snapchat, instagram, etc. for anyone who who would care to simply look it up.

This, of course, is what happens when "conspiracy theory" is resolved through documented evidence and becomes provable as CONSPORACY FACT.

As for THIS site, well, YOU be the judge.

mel May 24th, 2019 10:41 PM

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https://youtu.be/JQc5gDXQGIs :)

Walkoff Balk May 29th, 2019 03:06 AM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldiron (Post 290984)
Sure is quiet.

Hey howzit! Where you guys goin?

oldiron May 29th, 2019 09:31 PM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
Thanks for the replies. I was beginning to think that everyone had left.

68-eldo June 5th, 2019 01:39 AM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
Nobody post anything here; they just post links to other pages and the reader is off to another website.

woodman June 7th, 2019 06:08 PM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
That's certainly one way of looking at it.

Another way might be (after reading through past posts) to simply conclude that site administrator having allowed forum vigilantes free reign to flame and insult members with impunity is perhaps serving a particular agenda through this site that may amount to propaganda.

I pose this question again: Is this an individually sponsored site, or is this site sponsored by C&C of Hon, or State of Hawaii $$$?

Jumping in to defend your pal who might work one or the other doesn't count. If ANYTHING, it just validates my point.

Like I said, this site has become an empty cave because the closed-minded few who were DELIBERATELY AND WILLFULLY allowed to dominate it by belittling ANY dissenting opinions, and have turned it into an echo chamber that does NOT allow free thought and honest opinionns which do not conform to the forum agenda.

Walkoff Balk June 10th, 2019 01:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68-eldo (Post 291128)
Nobody post anything here; they just post links to other pages and the reader is off to another website.

There sure are a lot of topics at this site. A reader could do a search on a topic and then get some related topic in the search. Because everything you wanted
to know about that topic is in this site. What? There's more!

Walkoff Balk July 2nd, 2019 01:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkoff Balk (Post 291149)
There sure are a lot of topics at this site. A reader could do a search on a topic and then get some related topic in the search. Because everything you wanted
to know about that topic is in this site. What? There's more!

This is the part where Johnny Carson would say,"You are wrong,Internet breath."

woodman August 6th, 2019 09:20 PM

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Well, since nobody is willing to address this topic, I think that it's important to bring it up, AGAIN.

Site traffic is down to almost Zero (with NO adds), so where does all the money come from to sponsor this site?

Here's my take:

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman (Post 291138)
That's certainly one way of looking at it.

Another way might be (after reading through past posts) to simply conclude that site administrator having allowed forum vigilantes free reign to flame and insult members with impunity is perhaps serving a particular agenda through this site that may amount to propaganda.

I pose this question again: Is this an individually sponsored site, or is this site sponsored by C&C of Hon, or State of Hawaii $$$?

Jumping in to defend your pal who might work one or the other doesn't count. If ANYTHING, it just validates my point.

Like I said, this site has become an empty cave because the closed-minded few who were DELIBERATELY AND WILLFULLY allowed to dominate it by belittling ANY dissenting opinions, and have turned it into an echo chamber that does NOT allow free thought and honest opinionns which do not conform to the forum agenda.

I think people got tired of all the out-of-control "moderators" virtue-signaling through identity politics of manufactured outrage cloaked in what can only be described as a painfully obvious and artificially pious, self-righteous indignation.

These rants were often delivered in an incredulous monologue of "Holier-Than-Thou" sanctimony belittling the author. And anyone who discovered that the Site Administrator actually allowed, facilitated, and gave summary approval to all of this knew that there was NEVER ANY REAL OPEN DISCUSSION ON THIS SITE when opinions and FACTS went against the agenda of the Admin & his designated Website Vigilantes.

And as I said before, now, it's just an empty echo chamber.

I used to be a moderator for a similar website, so I know it's not cheap to maintain.

So my question sill stands: I don't care who the individuals name is who is listed as site "owner","superintendent", "operator", etc.

I just want to know how much City, State, or Federal dollars are currently being used to subsidize it.

68-eldo August 7th, 2019 02:30 AM

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As someone that runs a couple of websites, I know it does not take meg-a-bucks to run a site like this. Maybe $1k a year, depends on what company you rent the server from. The moderators are normally volunteers so they dont cost anything.
Most forums have rules to maintain some decorum. Im sure the owner of this forum does not want to have this site become one of those that the mass shooters are getting fired up at. We want to be civilized here.

admin August 7th, 2019 03:12 PM

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This message board is run entirely out of pocket by me personally.

The lack of traffic is not uncommon for message boards, which are definitely a relic of a time before social media. Most of the competing message boards are gone now. The gathering place of the modern age is Facebook, which is tragic for a variety of reasons.

The lack of new members and the lack of spam and trolls are due to the same reason: I manually review applications to join, which avoids all the loopholes around automated systems.

I've just continued to pay the bills in part because of the massive volume of historical knowledge and commentary HawaiiThreads.com has accumulated over fifteeen years.

68-eldo August 8th, 2019 01:00 AM

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And I thank you for doing that.

mel August 8th, 2019 02:11 AM

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Yep my answer to woodman to his question:

Quote:

I just want to know how much City, State, or Federal dollars are currently being used to subsidize it.
ZERO. Tomago. No $$. No . Board is entirely funded by one person.

Moderators? Are we getting paid? NOPE. Never have. Never will be. Fine with that. Not much to moderate now days.

And yes, the board is more of a historical or hysterical snapshot of times gone by. You dig deep enough there are skeletons in the closet here.

As unfortunate as admin says regarding social media, the fact of the matter is that this site and many others like it that have come and gone are in the big wasteland Siberia of the internet, whereas the big sites like Facebook are the current mainstream shopping mall and loud gathering place for all topics under the sun... people find their niches there and either be happy or continue the anger that used to once dominate boards like this.

So, Hawaii Threads is what it is... a vault of old stuff, occasional posts, low traffic, no pay and continued support by the admin who pays for everything here (shared hosting with other websites he has I presume)....

And that's my story...

Queue up "Tumbling Tumbleweeds"....

https://youtu.be/8fRxSF0lk-0

woodman August 10th, 2019 09:32 PM

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WOW!

That was FAST!

Four responses in less than 48 hours (...and two of 'em from the same guy). That must have taken some work, and given the lack of traffic on this sight that's gotta set some sort of recent record.

Even got a response from Admin, ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin (Post 291394)
This message board is run entirely out of pocket by me personally.

... though it would be nice if Admin would include more clarity since "out of pocket by me personally" doesn't really hold up in legal language to succinctly describe a "private, individual citizen" as it could just as easily be uses to describe "Me personally" Director (or an employee of) the Hawaii State Department of Commerce & Consumer Affairs.

Not to impugn the DCCA specifically, (pick any other Fed. State, or City bureaucracy as they may apply). It just seems rather vague.

mel August 11th, 2019 01:31 AM

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You can read more about our admin here:

https://www.hawaiiweblog.com/about/bio

Quote:

Ryan manages a number of websites devoted to the islands, including his blog, HawaiiWeblog.com, which one of the top five blogs in the state. Other sites include HawaiiThreads.com (an online forum that has seen as many as 1 million pageviews a month), HawaiiStar.com, HawaiiGrinds.com, HawaiiSocialMedia.com, and HawaiiStories.com.
If you have live in Hawaii you will know admin from his appearances on morning news shows at HawaiiNewsNow and more recently KITV 4. He started writing a regular column in the StarAdvertiser. He is very well known and quite public about all of the geeky stuff he has done over the last 20 to 30 years I think. First ran into him long, long ago when he was running an old dial-up BBS from his parent's home on I think a Mac IIsi.

Google those. I'm too lazy to provide links. Nobody reads this board. :)

Again, I reiterate this board is entirely privately funded. Period. No government funds used.

Walkoff Balk August 11th, 2019 03:04 AM

Re: Is Anyone There?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman (Post 291391)
Well, since nobody is willing to address this topic, I think that it's important to bring it up, AGAIN.

Site traffic is down to almost Zero (with NO adds), so where does all the money come from to sponsor this site?

I used to listen to Health talk Hawaii with Hesh, a one hour program on K-108 radio. He didn't have any ads on his program. That station doesn't have talk shows anymore. So, I just go on his website to listen to any past shows now.
So, I guess he paid for his shows with the goodness of his heart.

Walkoff Balk August 15th, 2019 02:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman (Post 291391)
Site traffic is down to almost Zero (with NO adds), so where does all the money come from to sponsor this site?

It's like local talk radio where there are the same callers. Most people just listen and won't call. I have never called a talk radio show. If you look to the right of the HawaiiThreads.com title. There are ads.


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