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Old June 11th, 2006, 08:21 AM
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Growing up in Kaneohe, our family used to frequent a Spencecliff coffee shop that was open in Windward City Shopping Center for years. I can't remember what the exact name of that location was, but I do remember it had a Tiki theme. Was it Tiki Tops?
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Old June 11th, 2006, 03:18 PM
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Growing up in Kaneohe, our family used to frequent a Spencecliff coffee shop that was open in Windward City Shopping Center for years. I can't remember what the exact name of that location was, but I do remember it had a Tiki theme. Was it Tiki Tops?

Yes, Tiki Tops is where Flamingo is today. It opened in 1959, according to my information.

I have photos of Lex Brodie having meetings of his gas station crew there. He used to be the manager of the Chevron station at Tiki Tops before focusing on tires and moving to town.

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Old June 18th, 2006, 03:47 PM
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Helen's Chinese Food in Kapahulu to close Sunday, April 30.

http://starbulletin.com/2006/04/29/f...s/story01.html
Thanks, no wonder when I went in the other day it looked different! There was a young couple running it, but they still had the huge gold fish! I just thought they were family who took over the business and renovated. I ordered the shrimp fried rice, different but good. They still carry the name and phone number, is that fair to unknowing customers? Same name and phone number, yet different style of cooking according to the article.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 04:19 PM
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They still carry the name and phone number, is that fair to unknowing customers?
no! i wonder what legal recourse unknowing customers have?!
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:34 PM
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Ding-ding-ding. We have a winner!

Yes, Fisherman's Wharf (opened in 1952) is the last of the chain started by Spence and Cliff Weaver in 1939 with Swanky Franky.

By the 1960's, Spencecliff was the biggest chain in town. Some of their places included: Coco’s (1960), Kelly’s, the Ranch House, Yacht Harbor Towers, Queen’s Surf (1949), South Seas, Tahitian Lanai (1956, served 16,000 orders of Eggs Benedict a year).
Don't forget Popo's!

It was pretty lousy Mexican food, but it was the only Mexican food west of Kaimuki other than Mama's Mexican Kitchen on School and Mama's in Moanalua Shopping Center.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:53 PM
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Don't forget Popo's!

It was pretty lousy Mexican food, but it was the only Mexican food west of Kaimuki other than Mama's Mexican Kitchen on School and Mama's in Moanalua Shopping Center.

Few people know that Spencer and Clifton Weaver were the sons of one of the nation’s leading architects. Fullerton Weaver designed the Waldorf-Astoria, the Hotel Pierre in New York City, and the Breakers in Palm Beach.

The boys’ mother was Emily Stokes, a great beauty who won the U.S. Open in mixed doubles tennis one year. The family owned an estate in East Hampton, Long Island that was called "Spencecliff."

The father took the boys on an around the world trip and they fell in love with Hawaii. They later moved here and found a job as cafeteria workers at Pearl Harbor in the late 1930s.

In 1939, they opened Swanky Franky’s Hot Dog Stand on Ena Road. Swanky Franky’s Drive-inn opened a few months later where Singha Thai Cuisine is now.

After service in World War II, they formed the Spencecliff Corporation. The Sky Room, which opened in 1948, was atop the airport terminal at John Rogers Field, a great location with constant traffic. It was a fancy place with great steaks.

Next, they purchased M’s Ranch House (and dropped M’s) and then Fisherman’s Wharf in Kewalo Basin.

One of their most famous acquisitions, in 1949, was the Waikiki beach home of millionaire Christian Holmes, heir to the Fleischmann's Yeast fortune. They turned it into Queen’s Surf.

The Barefoot Bar, upstairs at the Queen’s Surf, was one of the most popular places in town. You couldn’t get in unless you knew someone. There was always a big line.

They also purchased the lease on the site of the Kau Kau Korner in 1960, much to the dismay of owner Sunny Sundstrom, who had run the place since 1935. They turned it into Coco’s.

Spencecliff was renowned for taking care of its employees, many of whom served over 20 years. For instance, each employee received a birthday cake on the day before his or her birthday. Then they got their birthday off with pay. This was no small feat, given that they had 1,400 employees!
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:11 PM
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Hot dang, Bob. Your posts are just soooooo interesting! Hmmm...please jog my short term memory. Is the Spencecliff story in your book? My copy's at home and I'm in town so I can't look it up. I can't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning!

Oh...and I heard from your mom!!!
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:17 PM
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ah, the brothers and queen's surf.
Sterling Mossman..
many stories there.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutusue and Kimo55: Hot dang, Bob. Your posts are just soooooo interesting! Hmmm...please jog my short term memory. Is the Spencecliff story in your book? My copy's at home and I'm in town so I can't look it up. I can't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning! Oh...and I heard from your mom!!!=kimo55
ah, the brothers and queen's surf.
Sterling Mossman..many stories there.
Yes, Spencecliff is in my book and was one of the harder stories to research. The founders were gone. Their kids didn't know much about the business.

I finally found someone on the net who listed Spencecliff on his resume, and he directed me to the office manager who joined the firm in the late 1940s - Myuki Hyruby.

Also, I hired a yard guy and he was Sterling Mossman's son! Here's another excerpt about the Barefoot Bar:

Kula Mossman remembers being in the backup band for his late father, Sterling Mossman, the Hula Cop. “Dad loved entertaining,” Mossman recalls. “But being a cop paid the bills. Few remember that he was president of the HGEA. He was also a very generous man. He helped many get their careers going, including Don Ho, Danny Kaleikini, and this big guy who parked cars at Queen’s Surf named Zulu.”

Don Ho, who started his career at his mother’s bar, Honey’s in Kaneohe, began to sit in at the Barefoot Bar when Sterling Mossman took breaks. Local audiences followed Ho, and tourists began to take notice, too.

Sterling Mossman played at the Barefoot Bar from 1952 until 1969 when the city closed it so the beach could be expanded. “The last show, in December 1969 was huge,” Kula recalls.

“The place was packed with local and Hollywood celebrities. Dad was a very funny guy. I laughed at the same jokes every night, even though I knew the punch line. It was the way he told it.”

“Sterling Mossman was the Barefoot Bar,” Hruby says. “Mossman was a cop by day and an entertainer at night. He sang, danced the hula, and was a comedian. He was a very versatile man.”
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Old July 25th, 2006, 01:48 AM
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Does anyone know where the chef from Tokiwaya (a small eatery that was on Pensacola next to Subway) went? Tokiwaya was great to eat at. It was like gourmet Japanese bentos.
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Old July 31st, 2006, 06:22 PM
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Spencecliff also ran Top's Waikiki, Top's Waipahu, and Prince Kuhio (Ala Moana Center makai street level).

Other restaurantswhich have gone by the wayside: Canlis; Cavalier (later, Marcus Steak House); Pearl City Tavern (seeing a Cutter car dealership there just kills me); Little George's; Quinton's; Quinton's Wharf; King Tsin; Arthur's (Ilikai Marina, downtown); Volk's Steak House (Pearlridge); the various Chuck's locations; the Bistro; Alioto's; Checkers; Bernard's Deli (he seemed to be doing well at Kahala Mall, but went down soon after re-locating at Ward Center); Trader Vic's (made way for the Honolulu Club).

In the restaurant business, only the strong survive.
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[QUOTE=oceanpacific]Spencecliff also ran Top's Waikiki, Top's Waipahu, and Prince Kuhio (Ala Moana Center makai street level).

Wow remember when Prince Kuhio used to turn into a nightclub after 10:00pm on weekends?
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Ok. I'm sure nobody cares about the Goodyear franchise in Waimalu, but you might be interested in seeing what's replaced it.

I've forgotten the exact names, and I wasn't close enough to get them all, I suspect, but anyway: on the far left, a police storefront; then the Mail/pkg place that had been next to Subway; Mashies (or something like that); a Great American Bread store; Jamba Juice; Starbucks.
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Old August 1st, 2006, 08:20 PM
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The South Seas restaurant on Lagoon Drive became a car dealership too. As kids, we iked Spencecliff cause you could go to their "treasure chest" and get a small toy after your meal.

I miss Mama's....they also had a short run at the Pearl Kai food court when the strip mall first opened. I miss pizza at Shakey's on Keeaumoku and Chico's where the Kaimuki City Mill is now. Also the Harpo's location on Kapahulu, which is still there physically.
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Ok. I'm sure nobody cares about the Goodyear franchise in Waimalu, but you might be interested in seeing what's replaced it.
We care in our house since it's in our neighborhood! As you mentioned, there is a Jamba Juice/Starbucks combo and Great Harvest Bread opening soon. Already open is the Munchies and a very nice wine/spirits store called SWAM.
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We care in our house since it's in our neighborhood! As you mentioned, there is a Jamba Juice/Starbucks combo and Great Harvest Bread opening soon. Already open is the Munchies and a very nice wine/spirits store called SWAM.
Yeah, my neighborhood too. I had to switch to Lex Brodie's for car repairs when it closed.

Thanks for the Munchies correction and the SWAM addition. I shoulda taken notes.
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Old August 1st, 2006, 11:53 PM
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two things;
there's a sick plan they are trying to slip under the radar. the redevelopment of liliha street. which will displace too many long term establishments and residential units.
You will have a slew of names to add to this thread soon. Do we want the neighborhood destroyed and then paved over and built up to resemble a strip mall in cali? it will. If we don't stay alert.

also.
found this site which has a buncha places now part of histroy...

http://ronhashiro.htohananet.com/tra...-kamaaina.html
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Old August 1st, 2006, 11:56 PM
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So, the restaurant at the corner of K-Bay Shopping Center in Kane`ohe - used to be Ko`olau Ranch House, seems to change hands every 2-3 years - what is it now?
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 01:10 AM
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CHICO'S and SHAKEY'S: we'd storm those places after playing volleyball on Friday and Saturday nights at Kaimuku Rec Center or Kanewai Field. We brought our own VB net those days. Pizza and draft beer - even the "chicks" would chug-a-lug the brew with us guys. What a loss after those places closed up. That was over three decades ago.

My favorite pizza at CHICO'S was the "Hometowner" - Canadian Bacon and pineapple, topped with slices of fresh tomato. Sometimes, I'll order take-out pizza (ham and pineapple) and add my own fresh tomatoes.

I went to Japan in 2004 and saw a Shakey's Pizza there. Filmed it on my camcorder.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 05:16 AM
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Anyone else remember the House of Janus on Ala Moana Blvd. Ohta-San played there, and I seem to remember also Gus Hanneman (could this memory be correct??). It was a showroom, not a restaurant.
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House of Janus: as I recall, it was a block west (Ewa) of Ala Moana Shopping Center, next to the old KITV (Channel 4) offices.
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I disagree about Liliha Street, a favorite haunt of mine since I went to school one street over and half a mile up. Yes, lots of small businesses have gone, and more are sure to follow, but that's always been the case there. Look at what kind of places have moved in: other small, locally owned businesses. It's a nice, nice, nice mix of businesses and services, with big hospitals, little dentistry offices, some high-tech firms, a couple of bakeries, a horse brush store, the original L&L, a big supermarket and several small produce markets, restaurants of several different world cuisines, small mom & pop multi-purpose stores, and auto mechanics.

Longs is hitting that corner at Liliha and Kuakini, and yes, some small businesses were forced out, but I think Longs has the right idea; it's going to put up a small neighborhood pharmacy -- something that area really needs. If it builds it right, that intersection is going to be the new heart of Liliha Street, and all those small businesses in the area are going to benefit. It would be nice if Longs would put in a decent-sized, low-rise parking structure behind the new building, so people could park their cars and do all their errand-running on foot. Even if it doesn't, there's so much pedestrian and bus-rider traffic in that area already that I think the place is just going to wake up and hum.

Wider sidewalks and some nice trees here and there, and we could have the next Waialae Avenue, only better.

I think it's worth noting that Kamehameha Shopping Center has a Star/Jamba, but Nuuanu, Liliha, and Puunui still do not.

I'm excited about what's going on in the Liliha area, and look forward to smart development. IF.
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 06:47 AM
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So, the restaurant at the corner of K-Bay Shopping Center in Kane`ohe - used to be Ko`olau Ranch House, seems to change hands every 2-3 years - what is it now?
It's a Times Coffee Shop now.
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 08:33 AM
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some of you seem of an older generation. anyone remember what ala moana used to look like 20 years ago? i remember going to mcdonalds and overlooking shoppers in foodland. farrells. how the place used to be local but now its all shops that i will never go into.

someone mentioned that helens has new owners and were unhappy about it. businesses sell all the time, i know that for the 2nd time in 3 years hungry lions has changed hands.

on the flip side, i just shut down my shop. you all probably have never heard of it, tho it was open for 4 years. but thats another story. all i can say is that if you enjoy somewhere, try to support it by shopping there as much as you can.
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 01:18 PM
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I rarely shop at Ala Moana now. They've gone the way of the mainland malls, especially with their own rendition of "Rodeo Drive." Liberty House is gone, replaced by Macy's. No more O'Tahite, Ritz, Sato's, Honolulu Bookstore, India Imports, Hotei-ya, Byron II, etc. Much of the "aloha spirit" has disappeared.
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