Kumu Hula Ray Fonseca

[damontucker]

I freeeeeking can't believe this!!!

"Damerville said Hawai'i law makes it difficult to prove a motorist who has been using cocaine is actually impaired. Some states have laws declaring that a motorist is automatically deemed to be impaired if the person has been using cocaine, but it's not the case in Hawai'i, he said."

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...602180346/1001

[kimo55]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

wheeee. let's party.

[pzarquon]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

Interesting. Would a person high on cocaine pass a field sobriety test? How else would you determine drug impairment at the scene, short of a blood sample sent to a lab?

[kimo55]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

gosh... WE don't know the telltale signs of caine use....

[Miulang]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

What makes this particular story even worse is the guy who got caught driving under the influence of coke is a well-respected kumu hula in Hilo. THIS is the kind of role model we want for our keiki? How can we expect our keiki to grow up to be decent law-abiding citizens when the adults they are supposed to respect get caught doing things like taking illegal drugs or sexually preying on young people?

Miulang

[kimo55]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

just don't get caught praying on coke.

[lurkah]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

What makes this particular story even worse is the guy who got caught driving under the influence of coke is a well-respected kumu hula in Hilo. THIS is the kind of role model we want for our keiki? How can we expect our keiki to grow up to be decent law-abiding citizens when the adults they are supposed to respect get caught doing things like taking illegal drugs or sexually preying on young people?

Cocaine, crack, meth et al, make no distinctions for social status. Fame, fortune, and not to mention brains in the literal sense, have all been lost for countless people who just that one time said, "Ahh I going chance um just this once to see how it feels." That's all it takes for some people, just that one time, and they're no longer in control of their lives. The Devil's now in the driver's seat and they're just along for the ride...to hell.

[shaveice]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

six months in jail plus probation? for behavior that took another man's life. silly me. i didn't realize life was so cheap here. what a wonderful judicial system we have.

[kimo55]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

the more ya read that article the more fupped uck da system appears to be.
Further, Ray was avoiding potholes. so he drove english style left side. Pot killed da guy, not Cocaine.
Oh, and da odda guy was "on a medication" too!

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Andwoo Wolsin, Fonesca's lawyer, said Fonesca "has realized that he has made a mistake, and would like to take responsibility for this most unfortunate accident, he has made accidentally, and move forward to do what he can and have seances and conduct black magick rituals to bring that dead guy back..."

"Raymond has been a contributing member of this community for many, many, many, manyverymany years through the preservation of the hula and Hawaiian culture, and he looks forward to continuing to be a contributing member of the community by helping implement his own population control program" Wolsin said. "Everybody loves Raymond; To be accidentally caught killing someone is most unfortunate, but to re-animate them, well, that would be fortunate, if he can be allowed to move forward to do what he can do... let's see if he can do it."

[Miulang]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

One major lesson to be learned from this fiasco: If you're going to play chicken on a pothole plagued road, make sure you're the one who's enclosed in the cocoon of steel and not the one who's on two wheels.

Miulang

[Palolo Joe]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

the guy who got caught driving under the influence of coke

That's just it. How do you know he was under the influence? He could have used the day before, and it would have still shown up on a blood test.

[Miulang]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

That's just it. How do you know he was under the influence? He could have used the day before, and it would have still shown up on a blood test.

That doesn't mean he's off the hook. He still ingested an illegal substance.

Miulang

[Palolo Joe]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

That doesn't mean he's off the hook.

I agree. And he didn't walk out of court with a not guilty verdict. He deserves some jail time for what happened.

Just don't say he was under the influence. Unless there was some sort of field sobriety test that he failed, it's unfair to judge him that way.

[MadAzza]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

gosh... WE don't know the telltale signs of caine use....

Would that be ... Michael Caine use?

For all we know, some people would be better drivers on coke. It does make you more alert and aware. So I hear. Not like alcohol, which numbs your senses.

Before people get hysterical about someone driving under the influence of a particular drug, perhaps they should research how that drug actually affects performance. You know, there's a reason they call certain substances "performance-enhancing drugs."

Drugs like caffeine and cocaine have been shown to increase performance of certain tasks ... but definitely not others (right guys?).

Meanwhile, all kinds of folks are driving around under the influence of cold medicine, allergy medication and other meds that actually REDUCE their reaction time. But people think that's OK because they're legal.

I'd rather be in a car with someone who just did a line than someone who just took a couple of Benadryl. But don't confuse people with facts -- it's so much easier to assume that if a drug is illegal, it must be bad.

[candyglassy@gmail.com]

Re: Driving under the influence of Cocaine: Legal in Hawaii!!!

... How do you know he was under the influence? He could have used the day before, and it would have still shown up on a blood test.

Do you think if the driver hadn't been a well known kumu
that we'd be discussing whether he was or wasn't under the
influence? Let's say he was a hawaiian man driving home to Kau but he's unemployed, borrowed car, no visible contribution to society in terms
of what Ray Fonseca has accomplished. He causes a head on collision
with the guy on the bike, no other cars in sight. What would the majority
of us be talking about then? Probably not this case.