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Beachboy
November 17th, 2006, 08:54 AM
I'm curious if any of you have moved from one island to another. Who you used for the moving, and any other tips that could save me time and money. My Real Estate Agent called me the other day to tell me sellers have tentively excepted my offer!

So it looks like I'm packing the family up and moving to Puna shortly after New Year. Closing date is Jan.15th 2007. That date will arrive quicker than I think it will, and I need to be ready to avoid paying rent on old Kapahulu House,and a Mortgage on my brand new Puna home!!!!! :)

Since I have never did a huge move of this magnitude before I need all the suggestions you all have to offer me.

I need to know stuff like do I use 'Matson', or 'Young Bros', to ship my car, and do either of these companies act as a moving company too? Or do I ship my car with one of these companies, but ship all my stuff in my home with like 'Island Movers',or any other moving company? This is the kind of info I need. So please, if any of you akamai buggas have any ideas I'm all ears!

SouthKona
November 17th, 2006, 10:42 AM
In order to help you best, please share with us a few more details.

How much "stuff" do you have? Are you moving a minimal amount of stuff, or a whole house full? And, how much work are you willing to do yourself (will you rent a container, hire a trucking company, and load/unload container?? or are you a "pay someone else to do that even if I could save a bundle if I do it myself" type-of-person?)

Maybe it would be easier to answer, "How much stuff do you want to move, and what is your budget?".

Jonah K
November 17th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Congrats on the new house. :D Did you buy in HPP? For shipping a car inter-island, it's probably best to go with Young Brothers. If you pack your household goods in appropriate shipping containers and drop them off at the dock, Young Brothers can ship that stuff as well; however, depending on your budget, it's easier to go with a moving company.

Cheers,

Jonah K

Beachboy
November 20th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Congrats on the new house. :D Did you buy in HPP? For shipping a car inter-island, it's probably best to go with Young Brothers. If you pack your household goods in appropriate shipping containers and drop them off at the dock, Young Brothers can ship that stuff as well; however, depending on your budget, it's easier to go with a moving company.

Cheers,

Jonah K

I went to several web sites of local movers and filled out their quote forms. I can't remember if it was M Dryer & Son or which one but they quoted me over the phone a price of about $800.00 per thousand pounds. Did I hear the guy right, that seems a bit steep in price? I mean a thousand pounds adds up really fast too.

As for taking household items. Nothing wood is going. That means book cases, furniture,etc,etc.. Anything that has wood in it. Some of these places I've rented in the past 10 years have been "termite dens". So I don't wanna bring any temites with me to Puna(HPP). Besides, $800.00 per thousand pounds adds up rather fast when moving household belongings if you move everything.
So my boys bunk bed I'll ship, front room couch too. (3) Apple Computers,(1) HP four-in-one,(3) TV's, (1) TV glass table stand,yard tools, surf industry tools. All our clothes for a family of four One Bike. One car, I decided to not ship any surfboards either. Books, I have a massive amount of books. I hate to think they are gonna be tossed out!?!?!:eek:

Anyway I'm moving the first week in Jan. 2007

damontucker
November 20th, 2006, 06:29 PM
I went to several web sites of local movers and filled out their quote forms. I can't remember if it was M Dryer & Son or which one but they quoted me over the phone a price of about $800.00 per thousand pounds. Did I hear the guy right, that seems a bit steep in price? I mean a thousand pounds adds up really fast too.

As for taking household items. Nothing wood is going. That means book cases, furniture,etc,etc.. Anything that has wood in it. Some of these places I've rented in the past 10 years have been "termite dens". So I don't wanna bring any temites with me to Puna(HPP). Besides, $800.00 per thousand pounds adds up rather fast when moving household belongings if you move everything.
So my boys bunk bed I'll ship, front room couch too. (3) Apple Computers,(1) HP four-in-one,(3) TV's, (1) TV glass table stand,yard tools, surf industry tools. All our clothes for a family of four One Bike. One car, I decided to not ship any surfboards either. Books, I have a massive amount of books. I hate to think they are gonna be tossed out!?!?!:eek:

Anyway I'm moving the first week in Jan. 2007

good luck bro and hope to see you when I'm able to retire in about 12 years!

tutusue
November 20th, 2006, 07:23 PM
[...]Books, I have a massive amount of books. I hate to think they are gonna be tossed out!?!?!:eek:[...]
Beachboy, don't toss those books. Check either USPS online (http://www.usps.com) or call the post office and inquire about shipping your books parcel post. I plugged in a hypothetical box, 20 lbs., 24"x18"x12", from Honolulu to Puna (zip 96778...not sure if that's right) and the cost was under $9.00. The same size box, but 30 lbs. was under $10.00. As long as you're not in a hurry for the books it's a good way to ship them.

SouthKona
November 20th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Before you start discarding your possessions, check out Young Bros, including their GVan, etc.

http://www.htbyb.com/Ship_Goods/YB_Equipment_Available_for_Use.asp

I've found that it is usually cheaper to ship possessions, especially interisland, instead of selling things off cheap then having to pay retail to replace them later. The secret is in how much of the work you are willing to do yourself (packing, loading, hiring trucking company(s) to haul container if you ship that much, unloading). With a bit of homework and muscle, you really can move and bring your valued possessions.

Use Y.B.'s website, then give them a call for options on shipping. :)

Beachboy
November 23rd, 2006, 07:02 AM
Before you start discarding your possessions, check out Young Bros, including their GVan, etc.

http://www.htbyb.com/Ship_Goods/YB_Equipment_Available_for_Use.asp

I've found that it is usually cheaper to ship possessions, especially interisland, instead of selling things off cheap then having to pay retail to replace them later. The secret is in how much of the work you are willing to do yourself (packing, loading, hiring trucking company(s) to haul container if you ship that much, unloading). With a bit of homework and muscle, you really can move and bring your valued possessions.

Use Y.B.'s website, then give them a call for options on shipping. :)

You're right, it would be cheaper to do it all myself. But do you know what I hate most in life? It's moving,there isn't even a close second either! I've moved three times in the past 10 year!!!! Everytime I have moved, it has taken something out of me that will never return. These three times that I have moved, I've done it by myself. I don't ask my friends to help because moving is not something people like doing. Even offers to help I turn down. One time I had to move, I also hada dentist appt. that day too. So I went and had my dental work done then I asked for a few "pain killers"(percodan). My dentist gave me six or eight of those pills,...I went to the neck with them all! Knowing I was moving that day, and knowing that my back would take a pounding at the end of the day. I didn't hesitate at all! From then on I worked from about 10:45 a.m., until I finished moving 8p.m. non stop. Hell, I hate moving so much, I don't even ask my family to help. I mean my wife packs most of the boxes with houshold goods. But make no mistake, I was the "Beast of Burden", who does all the hard work. Now that I'm in my fifties, it hurts just to think about moving!
But this time it's different! I'm not moving into another rental this time, this time it's for my own home!!! Yes, I finally wised up. I decided to buy my own home. In the last place where there is true affordable housing in Hawaii. I'm moving to the Puna district into a subdivision known as HPP(Hawaiian Paradise Park). It's right in between Kea'au & Pahoa Town.
I'm getting a brand new custom house(1222sq ft),3 bedroom, and 2 bath with an acre of land! House won't be finished until May or June of 2007. So why am I moving there at the first of the year? Easy. I have the best Agent in the world! While I'm waiting for house to be built, I'll stay for free in another house that is empty that my agent owns right there in HPP too. The best part...I only have to pay the utilities while I wait for new home! If I stayed on Oahu while I wait for home to be built, I'd have to pay $6000.00 in rent over that period plus utilities. That's pretty much closing cost saved right there!

Any way I will make this move one last time. Hopefully this is it. But I have only one month to get my you know what together and make this happen! So I'm open to all moving suggestions.....please!!!!!:D

Miulang
November 23rd, 2006, 09:42 AM
You're right, it would be cheaper to do it all myself. But do you know what I hate most in life? It's moving,there isn't even a close second either! I've moved three times in the past 10 year!!!! Everytime I have moved, it has taken something out of me that will never return. These three times that I have moved, I've done it by myself. I don't ask my friends to help because moving is not something people like doing. Even offers to help I turn down. One time I had to move, I also hada dentist appt. that day too. So I went and had my dental work done then I asked for a few "pain killers"(percodan). My dentist gave me six or eight of those pills,...I went to the neck with them all! Knowing I was moving that day, and knowing that my back would take a pounding at the end of the day. I didn't hesitate at all! From then on I worked from about 10:45 a.m., until I finished moving 8p.m. non stop. Hell, I hate moving so much, I don't even ask my family to help. I mean my wife packs most of the boxes with houshold goods. But make no mistake, I was the "Beast of Burden", who does all the hard work. Now that I'm in my fifties, it hurts just to think about moving!
But this time it's different! I'm not moving into another rental this time, this time it's for my own home!!! Yes, I finally wised up. I decided to buy my own home. In the last place where there is true affordable housing in Hawaii. I'm moving to the Puna district into a subdivision known as HPP(Hawaiian Paradise Park). It's right in between Kea'au & Pahoa Town.
I'm getting a brand new custom house(1222sq ft),3 bedroom, and 2 bath with an acre of land! House won't be finished until May or June of 2007. So why am I moving there at the first of the year? Easy. I have the best Agent in the world! While I'm waiting for house to be built, I'll stay for free in another house that is empty that my agent owns right there in HPP too. The best part...I only have to pay the utilities while I wait for new home! If I stayed on Oahu while I wait for home to be built, I'd have to pay $6000.00 in rent over that period plus utilities. That's pretty much closing cost saved right there!

Any way I will make this move one last time. Hopefully this is it. But I have only one month to get my you know what together and make this happen! So I'm open to all moving suggestions.....please!!!!!:D

Congrats on moving into your very own home! Even though you hate moving, just remember that you won't have to do it ever again unless you want to, so that should make it a little less painful.

Sounds like everything is going to work out fine for you...maybe that scare you had with your leg was what finally got the stars all lined up in the right conjunction to make all this good stuff happen for you!;)

Miulang

P.S. Take as little with you as you can and try to sell the rest (especially the furniture, unless it's antique). One thing about moving into a new home...you feel like you have to buy new things for that new home, and having stuff from your old place will make it that much harder to fit that new furniture in there!:p

SouthKona
November 23rd, 2006, 01:10 PM
[QUOTE=Miulang; Take as little with you as you can and try to sell the rest [/QUOTE]

I would disagree completely, especially interisland, unless your current possessions really are basically worthless. For a couple of thousand, you can most likely move EVERYTHING YOU OWN, down to the dishdrainer and half used bottles of soap. If you ship by "size" (ie do it yourself by container) and not by weight (such as by using a moving company), it does not matter how much you bring (if you can fit it in, you can bring it). For our last interisland move we brought everything, and did not have to buy a single "household item" to set up our new home. It was way cheaper to do it that way for us, but that was based upon the fact that our possessions were things that still had at least a couple of years of use. Moving is a strain on the pocketbook - it is buying all the small items that add up so quickly. If you can bring all that stuff, you'll only have very limited out-of-pocket-expenses to set up your new household. So, from personal experience with numerous moves, I'd recommend checking out the cost of moving by container with Young Brothers vs the cost of buying all new household items from soap to couch. Then, compare which is actually going to be cheaper in the long run.

Good luck and keep good thoughts for motivation.

Plummy
November 23rd, 2006, 07:07 PM
I'm moving to the Puna district into a subdivision known as HPP(Hawaiian Paradise Park). It's right in between Kea'au & Pahoa Town.
I'm getting a brand new custom house(1222sq ft),3 bedroom, and 2 bath with an acre of land! House won't be finished until May or June of 2007. So why am I moving there at the first of the year? Easy. I have the best Agent in the world! While I'm waiting for house to be built, I'll stay for free in another house that is empty that my agent owns right there in HPP too. The best part...I only have to pay the utilities while I wait for new home! If I stayed on Oahu while I wait for home to be built, I'd have to pay $6000.00 in rent over that period plus utilities. That's pretty much closing cost saved right there!


Can't offer moving advise, but I would see about just using regular companies like UPS and DHL (be aware that USPS does NOT deliver to HPP, instead it'll sit at the Kea'au post office for a little bit until they ship it back). Just depends on weight and just how much you can justify the costs and what-not. Personally, I'm one of those "write a check for the whole she-bang" cause I'm too lazy to do anything.

Congrats on your purchase!! I'm in HPP as well (17th & Kaloli) and at least its fairly quiet out here. My only gripe is heading home sometimes after 4 pm up to 7 pm at times (it's unpredictable from what I've noticed). Sometimes it backs up quite a bit after the high school...a few weeks ago I guess there was an accident and it was backed up from turning onto 130 to where it merges into one lane and I think that took about an hour to get through. Nothing like Seattle so I can't really complain. :)

Miulang
November 23rd, 2006, 07:26 PM
Can't offer moving advise, but I would see about just using regular companies like UPS and DHL (be aware that USPS does NOT deliver to HPP, instead it'll sit at the Kea'au post office for a little bit until they ship it back). Just depends on weight and just how much you can justify the costs and what-not. Personally, I'm one of those "write a check for the whole she-bang" cause I'm too lazy to do anything.

Congrats on your purchase!! I'm in HPP as well (17th & Kaloli) and at least its fairly quiet out here. My only gripe is heading home sometimes after 4 pm up to 7 pm at times (it's unpredictable from what I've noticed). Sometimes it backs up quite a bit after the high school...a few weeks ago I guess there was an accident and it was backed up from turning onto 130 to where it merges into one lane and I think that took about an hour to get through. Nothing like Seattle so I can't really complain. :)

And I think UPS and FedEx won't deliver to that part of the world. One time I was trying to send something to someone in Keaau and had to use the regular US Mail because UPS and FedEx don't deliver to RR boxes (at least that was the case about 3 years ago).

Miulang

SouthKona
November 23rd, 2006, 10:40 PM
Everyone has good advice that fits different circumstances. It seems to come down to my original questions, "How much stuff do you want to move, and what is your budget"? And, how much of the work are you willing to do?

If you really don't have much of value, then getting down to a couple of boxes might be fine. But, then you'd have to buy everything new for your house. Yikes.

I still suggest that you call Young Brothers (and visit their website) and check into shipping options. If you need more help, you can PM me. I have moved.... alot! Everything from some boxes that were freight forwarded to full containers.

Welcome to the Big Island!

Plummy
November 24th, 2006, 06:33 AM
And I think UPS and FedEx won't deliver to that part of the world. One time I was trying to send something to someone in Keaau and had to use the regular US Mail because UPS and FedEx don't deliver to RR boxes (at least that was the case about 3 years ago).

Miulang

For UPS/Fed Ex/DHL, you have to have it sent to a physical address, it can't be a box. It's always been like that no matter where you have something delivered. Otherwise USPS will do it. But there's a huge waiting list (~1 yr) on the boxes out here and they get broken into frequently from what I was told at HOA.

The only problem I'm running into is online ordering and companies keep altering my orders thinking that I really don't want to pay 2nd Day rate to Hawaii and drop it down to USPS Priority and notify me by the time it's too late. Some companies are cool with it and send me a second package, some are extremely rude and say that they have to wait for the box to be returned which we all know takes forever since returned stuff goes on a boat.

Beachboy
November 24th, 2006, 07:22 AM
For UPS/Fed Ex/DHL, you have to have it sent to a physical address, it can't be a box. It's always been like that no matter where you have something delivered. Otherwise USPS will do it. But there's a huge waiting list (~1 yr) on the boxes out here and they get broken into frequently from what I was told at HOA.

The only problem I'm running into is online ordering and companies keep altering my orders thinking that I really don't want to pay 2nd Day rate to Hawaii and drop it down to USPS Priority and notify me by the time it's too late. Some companies are cool with it and send me a second package, some are extremely rude and say that they have to wait for the box to be returned which we all know takes forever since returned stuff goes on a boat.

Aloha Plummy,

What are you doing about your mail? When you first moved there did you have you mail sent to Kea'au Post Office 'General Delivery'? Or are there PO Boxes there to rent? I'll need a physical mail box almost right away for business purposes. Have any ideas?

Miulang
November 24th, 2006, 08:54 AM
If you really don't have much of value, then getting down to a couple of boxes might be fine. But, then you'd have to buy everything new for your house. Yikes.
Welcome to the Big Island!
But from a woman's point of view, isn't that the whole point of buying a new house? The going out and buying new things to put in the new house? I know that's what happened to me when I bought my condo and moved from a rental. Good thing I didn't have to move very far (about 2 blocks) and that most of the stuff I had was portable.:D

When I moved from Boston, I sent all my books and my dinnerware via USPS (I'm proud to say that I packed the box of plates and cups myself and lost only 1 plate!), and drove myself, my TV, stereo and clothes cross country in my car by myself. All the furniture I had was given away (couch, bed, etc).

Miulang

Jonah K
November 24th, 2006, 09:21 AM
What are you doing about your mail? When you first moved there did you have you mail sent to Kea'au Post Office 'General Delivery'? Or are there PO Boxes there to rent? I'll need a physical mail box almost right away for business purposes. Have any ideas?
There's a mailbox rental place in Pāhoa (across the street from the 7-11) called the "1-Stop Mail Shop" where you can have your mail and packages sent to. You can reach them at (808) 965-1111. :cool:

Jonah K
November 24th, 2006, 09:37 AM
But from a woman's point of view, isn't that the whole point of buying a new house? The going out and buying new things to put in the new house? I know that's what happened to me when I bought my condo and moved from a rental. Good thing I didn't have to move very far (about 2 blocks) and that most of the stuff I had was portable.:D
Unfortunately, the selection of places on the Hilo side that sell quality home furnishings is limited. There's Koehnen's, Furnitureland, Yamada Furniture, J & J Hardware and a few other places for couches, beds, tables, etc. There's also Wal-Mart, Cost-U-Less, Sears, and Ross for other items; however, that's pretty much it, unless one goes to Kona or Honolulu. The majority of the furnishings in the last house that I purchased in Puna came from Koehnen's in Hilo and Costco and C.S. Wo in Kona. :(

SouthKona
November 24th, 2006, 03:59 PM
But from a woman's point of view, isn't that the whole point of buying a new house? The going out and buying new things to put in the new house?

Guess if you can afford to do that, or want to do that, great. I'm happy with the used possessions I have, and would rather spend my money on other things besides new furniture and household items. But, to each their own.

You need to plan for extra cash on the Big Island for things like gasoline (high prices and long distances to travel), private schools (if you have kids and the area's public school is not decent), and extra snorkles and fins and boogieboards for all the visitors you will have. :D

Plummy
November 24th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Aloha Plummy,

What are you doing about your mail? When you first moved there did you have you mail sent to Kea'au Post Office 'General Delivery'? Or are there PO Boxes there to rent? I'll need a physical mail box almost right away for business purposes. Have any ideas?

I almost went with the 1-Stop that Jonah mentioned, but figured that since I was going to be in Hilo every day, might as well just get a P.O. Box there. Only had to wait a couple days while they were changing the locks out of the people who didn't renew their old boxes so that was nice. But definately check out 1-Stop since they can also receive your packages so you don't have to worry about package stealers if you're away from home when they deliver it.

Plummy
November 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Unfortunately, the selection of places on the Hilo side that sell quality home furnishings is limited. There's Koehnen's, Furnitureland, Yamada Furniture, J & J Hardware and a few other places for couches, beds, tables, etc. There's also Wal-Mart, Cost-U-Less, Sears, and Ross for other items; however, that's pretty much it, unless one goes to Kona or Honolulu. The majority of the furnishings in the last house that I purchased in Puna came from Koehnen's in Hilo and Costco and C.S. Wo in Kona. :(

I ended up getting some stuff from Furnitureland. After three months, its leaving a lot to be desired, or at least the sofas and chair are. Looked great on the showroom floor, but oh well. It was a last minute purchase and didn't have time to run over to Kona when it was time to purchase stuff.

Beachboy
November 28th, 2006, 05:30 AM
I ended up getting some stuff from Furnitureland. After three months, its leaving a lot to be desired, or at least the sofas and chair are. Looked great on the showroom floor, but oh well. It was a last minute purchase and didn't have time to run over to Kona when it was time to purchase stuff.

what makes my moving decision difficult is this couch my wife and I picked up one year ago. It's a black leather couch that we paid over $1200 for, and it's pretty comfortable.

I agree with everybody's ideas about moving. SouthKona brings up some very practical points for the average local family. Though it would be really hassle for me to load a container myself, I probaby would if I was moving into an older home. But since I'll be moving into a brand new custom home,new furniture will look a lot better than packing up the 10 year old "Lazyboy",and ship it. Something about old furniture in a new house, it just looks odd!!!
So, because of that damn couch i'm at this crossroad, a crossroad that has made me put on the brakes hard & fast. Because I can't make the call as what to do I have postponed my move to the Big Island by one month. Jan 29th is now my departure date.

I just have a hard time getting past the quote I got of $800.00 per 1000 pounds from one of the moving companies.

Jonah K
November 28th, 2006, 07:44 AM
what makes my moving decision difficult is this couch my wife and I picked up one year ago. It's a black leather couch that we paid over $1200 for, and it's pretty comfortable.

I agree with everybody's ideas about moving. SouthKona brings up some very practical points for the average local family. Though it would be really hassle for me to load a container myself, I probaby would if I was moving into an older home. But since I'll be moving into a brand new custom home,new furniture will look a lot better than packing up the 10 year old "Lazyboy",and ship it. Something about old furniture in a new house, it just looks odd!!!
So, because of that damn couch i'm at this crossroad, a crossroad that has made me put on the brakes hard & fast. Because I can't make the call as what to do I have postponed my move to the Big Island by one month. Jan 29th is now my departure date.

I just have a hard time getting past the quote I got of $800.00 per 1000 pounds from one of the moving companies.
It might be better to part with that leather couch and purchase a microfiber one instead. I found that leather furniture doesn't fare as well in Puna, compared to furniture covered with other materials. :cool:

Miulang
November 28th, 2006, 07:48 AM
what makes my moving decision difficult is this couch my wife and I picked up one year ago. It's a black leather couch that we paid over $1200 for, and it's pretty comfortable.

I agree with everybody's ideas about moving. SouthKona brings up some very practical points for the average local family. Though it would be really hassle for me to load a container myself, I probaby would if I was moving into an older home. But since I'll be moving into a brand new custom home,new furniture will look a lot better than packing up the 10 year old "Lazyboy",and ship it. Something about old furniture in a new house, it just looks odd!!!
So, because of that damn couch i'm at this crossroad, a crossroad that has made me put on the brakes hard & fast. Because I can't make the call as what to do I have postponed my move to the Big Island by one month. Jan 29th is now my departure date.

I just have a hard time getting past the quote I got of $800.00 per 1000 pounds from one of the moving companies.
I seriously doubt you're going to get anyone to pay $1200 for that couch, no matter how good the condition is, so you have to decide whether or not its worth shipping it or selling it for $700-800. And as I said before, if you're moving into a brand newly built home, you really do want new furniture. Plus, more than likely your new home will have more space than where you're moving from, so that means buying even more stuff!:D

Miulang

tutusue
November 28th, 2006, 08:19 AM
Beachboy...there are usually independent movers (a couple of guys and a truck) listed in the classified section of the newspapers. I believe that section might be called 'Services'...or something like that. Anyway, how 'bout hiring a couple of guys to be your 'beasts of burden' and load a YB container for you? You obviously won't need the truck but you can probably get the labor on an hourly basis. You would also need to do the same on the Puna end. Just a thought!

Buying new furniture is expensive. If you have some buckaroonies stashed for that purpose...then go for it. Otherwise, you really can make do with older furniture in a new house!

SouthKona
November 29th, 2006, 02:51 AM
Beachboy...there are usually independent movers (a couple of guys and a truck) listed in the classified section of the newspapers. I believe that section might be called 'Services'...or something like that. Anyway, how 'bout hiring a couple of guys to be your 'beasts of burden' and load a YB container for you? You obviously won't need the truck but you can probably get the labor on an hourly basis. You would also need to do the same on the Puna end. Just a thought!

Buying new furniture is expensive. If you have some buckaroonies stashed for that purpose...then go for it. Otherwise, you really can make do with older furniture in a new house!
Tutusue, you speak with a voice of reason! I'd much rather sit on my "old" furniture in my new house for a few months or so, and shop at my leisure, than have to rush out and buy everything from the start because all I had going for me was a box to sit on until I shopped.

Ditto for your advice to hire some muscle. Moving companies will come to load and unload your container for a flat rate or hourly (but get a max beforehand, in writing).

Beachboy,don't get caught up in the "have to have new" syndrome. If you want new, then do it. But if you are happy with what you have, then be satisfied and buy new later. You do NOT have to have new furniture just because you have a new house - old can work just fine to start off with.

tutusue
November 29th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Tutusue, you speak with a voice of reason![...]Ditto for your advice to hire some muscle. Moving companies will come to load and unload your container for a flat rate or hourly (but get a max beforehand, in writing).[...]
It's more a voice of experience than reason! Moving was a way of life for me until I moved to Makaha in 1992. 400 sq ft X 14 years = paradise! My parents spent several decades buying, fixing up and selling. The term "flipper" was unheard of at that time. We lived in each property. I inherited that gene. :D The furniture always moved to the new house, to be replaced when it wore out. The only time I can remember buying a houseful of new furniture is when I got married in 1963. :eek:

"Beasts of burden" from a large moving company will cost more than the independent guys. Something to ask the indies is if they carry insurance. IOW, if they accidentally drop or break something, will they pay for it.

Beachboy
November 29th, 2006, 08:02 AM
Beachboy,don't get caught up in the "have to have new" syndrome. If you want new, then do it. But if you are happy with what you have, then be satisfied and buy new later. You do NOT have to have new furniture just because you have a new house - old can work just fine to start off with.

I hear what you are saying Southkona. But like I said before. I have lived in a few termite palaces over the years. So I'm willing to bet that all my wooden furniture is contaminated with Termites!!!!

I'm gonna take a lot of my stuffs(personal belongings), but there is so much that is not necessary. What will make it possible to buy some new furniture is my moving to Puna before house is completed. If I was to stay in Honolulu at current house while home is being built I'd pay roughly around 6 grand in rent. By moving at end of Jan. I kill to birds with one stone. I save that six grand in rent, and get my older boy situated in school. I'm getting virually a free house to live in while my custom home is being built. I only have to pay utilities there:p Is that awesome or what? My free house with be on 9th Ave in HPP, while my home is being built on 3rd Ave in HPP. So I'll be able to check process of construction easily from 3rd Ave.
I'm totally set. The only thing that scares me is by all indications, we are heading into a "El Nino" type year, and my house will be of course Cathment water system?!

I'm a little worried about "Ice" problem that my friend said is apprent in Pahoa Town. Last thing I need is my kids being exposed to that crap!!!

Jonah K
November 29th, 2006, 08:59 AM
I hear what you are saying Southkona. But like I said before. I have lived in a few termite palaces over the years. So I'm willing to bet that all my wooden furniture is contaminated with Termites!!!!

I'm gonna take a lot of my stuffs(personal belongings), but there is so much that is not necessary. What will make it possible to buy some new furniture is my moving to Puna before house is completed. If I was to stay in Honolulu at current house while home is being built I'd pay roughly around 6 grand in rent. By moving at end of Jan. I kill to birds with one stone. I save that six grand in rent, and get my older boy situated in school. I'm getting virually a free house to live in while my custom home is being built. I only have to pay utilities there:p Is that awesome or what? My free house with be on 9th Ave in HPP, while my home is being built on 3rd Ave in HPP. So I'll be able to check process of construction easily from 3rd Ave.
I'm totally set. The only thing that scares me is by all indications, we are heading into a "El Nino" type year, and my house will be of course Cathment water system?!

I'm a little worried about "Ice" problem that my friend said is apprent in Pahoa Town. Last thing I need is my kids being exposed to that crap!!!
If your builder put in some "termite barriers (http://www.greenbuilder.com/sourcebook/termite.html)" (basaltic for a slab, and metal shields for "post and pier"), you won't have to worry much about termite infestations your new house. :D

Speaking of catchment systems, it's helpful to have an upgraded catchment and water purification system. If you don't already have a copy of "Rainwater Catchment Systems for Hawai'i", you can download it from the link below....
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/RM-12.pdf

In addition, you might want to consider getting a solar water heater instead of an electric one. There are some programs (http://www.heco.com/portal/site/heco/menuitem.508576f78baa14340b4c0610c510b1ca/?vgnextoid=e3d95e658e0fc010VgnVCM1000008119fea9RCR D&vgnextfmt=default) where you can reduce your electricity bill and get couple of tax breaks and/or rebates as well. It also helps to get all "Energy Star (http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=find_a_product.)" compliant appliances.

As for the "ice problem" in Puna, the "Weed and Seed Program (http://starbulletin.com/2005/12/25/news/story11.html)" (especially the installation of the cameras near Luquin's) sent many of the "ice heads" down to Kehena (http://www.hawaiiislandjournal.com/2006/0729a.html). :cool:

Glen Miyashiro
November 29th, 2006, 09:13 AM
If your builder put in some "termite barriers (http://www.greenbuilder.com/sourcebook/termite.html)" (basaltic for a slab, and metal shields for "post and pier"), you won't have to worry much about termite infestations your new house. :DTermite barriers are pretty effective for preventing ground termites from colonizing your house from underground. However, they aren't 100% proof against ground termites -- there are occasionally cases of aerial infestation by ground termites, where an airborne mating pair finds your roof, settles in, and starts munching from the top down!

Of course, those barriers don't do anything to stop drywood termites. They don't burrow like ground termites do; instead, they're the ones that you usually see swarming on hot summer nights. You just gotta be vigilant, and tent every few years.

And if your furniture has termites already, then you're just asking for trouble because you're literally bringing them into your home yourself.

Jonah K
November 29th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Termite barriers are pretty effective for preventing ground termites from colonizing your house from underground. However, they aren't 100% proof against ground termites -- there are occasionally cases of aerial infestation by ground termites, where an airborne mating pair finds your roof, settles in, and starts munching from the top down!

Of course, those barriers don't do anything to stop drywood termites. They don't burrow like ground termites do; instead, they're the ones that you usually see swarming on hot summer nights. You just gotta be vigilant, and tent every few years.
In my area, drywood termites seem to have better things to munch on, (like dead 'ohia trees) instead of the houses. In addition, the coqui frogs around here are probably feeding on the termites. :p

In any event, I recommend an annual termite inspection. If termites are found during the inspection, then go ahead and get the house tented; otherwise, you might find that you only need to get the house tented once (or twice) per decade. ;)

SouthKona
November 29th, 2006, 11:08 AM
In any event, I recommend an annual termite inspection. If termites are found during the inspection, then go ahead and get the house tented; otherwise, you might find that you only need to get the house tented once (or twice) per decade. ;)
Of course, tenting will not work on ground termites. But that subject could take up a whole other thread.

Beachboy, it sounds like your furniture isn't coming with you due to termites. So, call Y.B. and ask about the GVan for shipping boxes and misc. (It is in an earlier posting). And, contact a freight forwarder and see what it would cost if you shipped some boxes through them.

Be careful if you decide to hire unprofessional movers. Make sure anyone working on your property has appropriate insurance, including liability and WORKERS COMP. If someone is hurt while on your property doing work for you, and they are uninsured, you the homeowner can be considered for protentially holding the bag on medical bills and missed work.

Jonah K
November 29th, 2006, 11:43 AM
Be careful if you decide to hire unprofessional movers. Make sure anyone working on your property has appropriate insurance, including liability and WORKERS COMP. If someone is hurt while on your property doing work for you, and they are uninsured, you the homeowner can be considered for protentially holding the bag on medical bills and missed work.I second that. However, if one decides to take a chance with "unprofessional movers", just get them to sign an "Accident Waiver and Release of Liability" form before they do any work. :cool:

SouthKona
November 29th, 2006, 01:27 PM
I second that. However, if one decides to take a chance with "unprofessional movers", just get them to sign an "Accident Waiver and Release of Liability" form before they do any work. :cool:
I doubt that such a waiver would hold up in a Work Comp case. If you've got someone working (ie paid, not meaning helpful friends & family) on your property, you'd best make sure they carry Work Comp insurance.

Jonah K
November 29th, 2006, 06:46 PM
I doubt that such a waiver would hold up in a Work Comp case. If you've got someone working (ie paid, not meaning helpful friends & family) on your property, you'd best make sure they carry Work Comp insurance.
If it's worded correctly, an "Accident Waiver and Release of Liability" form will hold up in court, especially if the "unprofessional movers" aren't considered "employees." Just make sure that you pay them less than $225 a piece in cash for the job and it's all good (see HRS 386-1 (http://homepages.uhwo.hawaii.edu/~clear/HRS386-1.html)). ;)

SouthKona
November 29th, 2006, 09:15 PM
If it's worded correctly, an "Accident Waiver and Release of Liability" form will hold up in court, especially if the "unprofessional movers" aren't considered "employees." Just make sure that you pay them less than $225 a piece in cash for the job and it's all good (see HRS 386-1 (http://homepages.uhwo.hawaii.edu/~clear/HRS386-1.html)). ;)
You might have a point.... but if someone slips and falls while hauling boxes down the driveway, and breaks a leg, and isn't covered by Work Comp insurance, the Homeowner better have a good Homeowner's Policy in place 'cuz the Homeowner is gona' pay the medical bills. I'd rather just work with a "real company" that has Work Comp and not have the headache if something goes wrong. My theory: saving a few bucks is a great idea, but not if it sets you up for major liability if an accident happens.

Jonah K
November 30th, 2006, 07:15 AM
You might have a point.... but if someone slips and falls while hauling boxes down the driveway, and breaks a leg, and isn't covered by Work Comp insurance, the Homeowner better have a good Homeowner's Policy in place 'cuz the Homeowner is gona' pay the medical bills. I'd rather just work with a "real company" that has Work Comp and not have the headache if something goes wrong. My theory: saving a few bucks is a great idea, but not if it sets you up for major liability if an accident happens.
Not necessarily. There's the legal doctrine of "assumption of risk" or "volenti non fit injuria", which would be an affirmative defense if the "unprofessional movers" are injured while they are "working" for a homeowner. A carefully-worded "Accident Waiver and Release of Liability" form that's signed by the "unprofessional movers" prior to the commencement of any "work" is an express "assumption of risk"; thus, they would have little legal recourse against the homeowner or the homeowner's insurance company. :cool:

Of course, if a homeowner is not an attorney (or doesn't have one on retainer), it might be preferable to hire "professional movers" that are properly insured. ;)

SouthKona
November 30th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Of course, if a homeowner is not an attorney (or doesn't have one on retainer), it might be preferable to hire "professional movers" that are properly insured. ;)
Yep...we are in full agreement. :D

Beachboy
December 1st, 2006, 08:43 AM
Of course, if a homeowner is not an attorney (or doesn't have one on retainer), it might be preferable to hire "professional movers" that are properly insured. ;)

I'm assuming all those movers listed in the telephone book are professional companies? Those are the ones I have called so far. The one lady with
"Aloha International Movers"(same agent as Allied Movers), said that price is state regulated. So basically all professional moving companies are roughly $800.00 per thousand pounds of weight.

As for the termites, it is a real problem for me. My last landlady was Pake, and my front door as heavy duty as it was....was totally infested with termites. Right next to my front door was a nice wooden bookshelf. To make a long story short, my bookshelf was ruined because she refused to listen to my pleas for her to change the damn door! That's the kinda crap renters have to go through. Is it fair,....who knows,and who cares? I have only one item of wood making the trip to HPP. That is my Dining Room table. It's less than six months old, and I'm pretty sure safe in the kitchen in this home I currently occupy. The wifey wouldn't understand if she saw it in the yard sale:D

Beachboy
December 7th, 2006, 03:44 PM
There's a mailbox rental place in P?hoa (across the street from the 7-11) called the "1-Stop Mail Shop" where you can have your mail and packages sent to. You can reach them at (808) 965-1111. :cool:

would you know off hand what six months, or a year would cost me? I'm assuming that's my only option while waiting for one of HPP's roadside mail boxes,....correct?