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mmhromeo
September 2nd, 2004, 10:40 AM
Recommendations/ideas for keeping my cats out of the garden? A suggestion was to plant RUE an herb that cats supposedly do not like, but I came home the other night at my cat was in my garden NEXT TO THE RUE.....so that does not work!..

pzarquon
September 2nd, 2004, 11:20 AM
From the Cat FAQ at LifeTips (http://cat.lifetips.com/faq.asp?SiteID=15&QuestionID=51208&type=0):

Cats donīt like the smell of citrus fruit, so it is an excellent deterrent for gardens and plants. Citrus scented potpourri or cleaners can be another means of keeping cats out of your outdoor garden or indoor plants. Just apply the citrus scented solution to something in the garden; such as a large rock, or around the foundation of your house for flower beds or the pots for indoor plants. Be aware that you will need to re-apply this occasionaly since the scent will wash off with water.

mmhromeo
September 2nd, 2004, 12:58 PM
Wow thanks, I'll try the citrus method

kamlost
September 3rd, 2004, 08:52 PM
i'm sorry to say, but that doesn't work either. I have three kinds of citrus trees in my garden, and the cats love to play there.

Miulang
September 10th, 2004, 01:42 PM
i'm sorry to say, but that doesn't work either. I have three kinds of citrus trees in my garden, and the cats love to play there.

What cats don't like is the smell of citrus oil (as in, if you peel an orange, put the peel next to the cat's face and watch his/her reaction). We have one cat, Shimai, who when you do this, scrunches his face up in the funniest grimace I have ever seen in my life. The repellent is in the citrus oil itself, I think, and not the mere existence of a citrus tree.

They do have artificial repellents for cats but these are generally made to keep the animals off furniture and kitchen counters.

Miulang

Albert
September 10th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Much as I love cats, I have to say I think this is a losing battle. :)

craigwatanabe
September 10th, 2004, 08:33 PM
dog, proximity-activated sprinklers (yes they are available), or do what that farmer did to that scumbag stealing his veggies...shoot em...ummm with a water pistol, yeah a SUPER SOAKER 10K! Lots of water!!! Start a drought and get that cat outta your garden!!!

kamlost
October 22nd, 2004, 02:15 AM
What cats don't like is the smell of citrus oil (as in, if you peel an orange, put the peel next to the cat's face and watch his/her reaction). We have one cat, Shimai, who when you do this, scrunches his face up in the funniest grimace I have ever seen in my life. The repellent is in the citrus oil itself, I think, and not the mere existence of a citrus tree.

They do have artificial repellents for cats but these are generally made to keep the animals off furniture and kitchen counters.

Miulang

does your cat eat cantaloupe?

Ahhaa Craig, poor cat ;) I guess automatic sprinklers would work fine?

Albert
October 22nd, 2004, 09:30 AM
I was reading a novel earlier today where it was mentioned that rue is, indeed, a way to discourage cats from garden areas. Must admit, I'm not quite sure what "rue" is or whether it grows okay in these islands.

craigwatanabe
October 26th, 2004, 12:36 PM
:eek: I think Rue is actually a device used to intimidate cats in a very painful way whenever they start munching on your garden goodies...Okay maybe not but I'm sure it would make a great name for a paintball gun. :D :eek:

DeeCee
November 14th, 2004, 07:02 AM
For the past year there's been this cat (we assume it's feral) who scratches our sliding screen door, wanting food. So..being animal loving folk, we've been feeding it. "Cat food" is now a staple on our grocery list. The kids have even named him. ("Titus" after a Yu-Gi-Oh character)

Well, lo and behold, during a neighborhood party last month, I asked if anyone has seen this "wild" cat? Turns out, unbeknownst to us all, the entire neighborhood has been feeding him. AND..he's domesticated and belongs to a family up the street. They were wondering why he wasn't eating much.

Oh, and his name is actually "poke".

kamlost
November 14th, 2004, 02:05 PM
Smart cat!! I've had to drive away the cats that hang out in my garden since my bird arrived.

waioli kai
September 11th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Smart cat!! I've had to drive away the cats that hang out in my garden since my bird arrived.

Cats are bird killers. We used to have song birds around home, especially in the mornings and evenings, even once in a while at night as well, until abandoned or runaway, now feral cats, together with our own cat seemingly learned to (that is be given the opporitunity to) individually or working in some kind of communion exterminate every feathered creature they can manage to get their claws and teeth into. Once being a home notable for numerous birds, besides chickens, now it is a home notable for its absence of all birds except the most hungry young chickens on very nervous recon missions in search of stray cat food.

Some states have a feral cat plan:


Wisconsin residents support a plan to legalize wild cat hunting, according to voting results.

At meetings across the state , residents in 72 counties were asked whether free-roaming cats should be listed as an unprotected species. If so listed, the cats — including any domestic cat that isn't under the owner's direct control or any cat without a collar — could be hunted.

A total of 6,830 voted yes and 5,201 voted no, according to results released by the Department of Natural Resources.

The prospect of feral cat hunting has more hurdles to clear — and faces the considerable opposition of a number of national animal rights groups. The Humane Society of the United States called the proposal cruel and archaic.

The DNR would have to ask the Legislature to support the change. Lawmakers would have to then pass a bill, and Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle would have to sign it.

"I can assure you that the campaign is undeterred and we will still be working tirelessly to defeat this in whatever form it takes," said Ted O'Donnell, who gathered more than 17,000 signatures in an online petition to oppose the plan.

South Dakota and Minnesota both allow wild cats to be shot. Some estimates indicate 2 million wild cats roam Wisconsin. The state says studies show feral cats kill 47 million to 139 million songbirds a year.

At some meetings, animal lovers held pictures of cats, clutched stuffed animals and wore whiskers as they denounced the plan.

Few hunters publicly spoke in favor of the plan, first proposed by Mark Smith, a La Crosse firefighter. Smith had faced death threats over the plan.

Even Karen Hale, executive director of the Madison Audubon Society, one of the largest pro-bird groups in the country with 2,500 members, said she voted no. While the cats have reduced the population of birds in the state, she said the question was too controversial.

"The whole issue of possibly hunting them is so controversial and there has been so much misinformation that we really need a lot more discussion on this issue," Hale said. She called for another study looking at the impact of feral cats. RJ Foley ap
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lavagal
September 11th, 2005, 06:00 PM
From the Cat FAQ at LifeTips (http://cat.lifetips.com/faq.asp?SiteID=15&QuestionID=51208&type=0):

Cats donīt like the smell of citrus fruit, so it is an excellent deterrent for gardens and plants. Citrus scented potpourri or cleaners can be another means of keeping cats out of your outdoor garden or indoor plants. Just apply the citrus scented solution to something in the garden; such as a large rock, or around the foundation of your house for flower beds or the pots for indoor plants. Be aware that you will need to re-apply this occasionaly since the scent will wash off with water.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'll have to disagree with this one. Our house has a Meyer Lemon, a Kafir Lime, a Bhaer (sp?) Lime, a Mexican Lime and an orange tree. We live along a wild-life highway, a ditch that runs from Koko Crater to Koko Kai Marina: feral cats use it all the time. We've had several litters of feral cats born in our yard and decided to keep the last litter, raising them to full adulthood. They are nearly 2 years old. They climb up the orange tree and sleep in the shade of the lime and lemons. My indoor cat does not resist the citrus spray and has shredded our two sofas. I don't know whose cats can resist citrus, but if it's a sweeping belief, mine are definitely the exception.

TurquoiseDuck
September 11th, 2005, 07:50 PM
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Turquoise Duck

waioli kai
January 6th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Web Site Tracks Birds' Worst Enemies (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6728958): Cats

A more accomplished bird-killer than a cat could not have been conceived, and we spend millions the killers.

blueyecicle
January 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Cats really hate being shot at with a low powered BB gun. :p (no I don't hit them, I aim near them and I am a good shot)
My garden is cat -free!
Now I have a dog thought so she works too!

tikiyaki
January 6th, 2007, 05:35 PM
get a dog ;)

Adri
January 6th, 2007, 07:11 PM
This reminded me of an old local "wives tale" about putting jars or jugs of water along the lawn edge to keep out stray cats and dogs. Not enough jars or jugs to actually make a fence, mind you. I recall my uncle used to do this. I wonder who thought of the idea and why they thought it might work? :D

blueyecicle
January 6th, 2007, 07:40 PM
I have done that except I filled the jugs with ammonia....the downside?? You have to change the ammonia frequently.

GeckoGeek
January 6th, 2007, 09:35 PM
I never knew cats in a vegetable garden was such a problem. I always thought they were strictly meat eaters! :rolleyes:

scrivener
January 7th, 2007, 01:23 AM
have you tried asking the kitty to please stay in your garden?

waioli kai
January 7th, 2007, 07:07 AM
I never knew cats in a vegetable garden was such a problem. I always thought they were strictly meat eaters! :rolleyes:

With cats around the garden the only avian life visiting the garden on return trips is wild chickens.

A previous statement completed reads as: A more accomplished bird-killer than a cat could not have been conceived, and we spend billions to feed the bird-killers else we abandon them to feed near exclusively on all birds not chickens.

Fat Jeff
January 11th, 2007, 03:21 PM
Being at the top of the food chain, we forget a few universal truths. To keep (feral) cats away, lay down the scent of a predator. If you have a dog...have Bowser shi-shi near the area in question. If you don't have a dog...well, ever notice how cats are usually skittish around people ;)

Yeah, I did it and it worked! :rolleyes:

pzarquon
January 11th, 2007, 03:25 PM
Wow. This is an old thread.

Like Adri, I'd heard and seen the "glass jars" thing. Several of our neighbors did it in Aiea when I was a kid. Had no idea if it worked, or the basic concept. Something about the reflection unnerving trespassers, though I don't know if it was aimed specifically at domestic pets.

And... we're at the top of the food chain? :p I think there are a few other creatures that periodically and rightfully assert a higher position!

1stwahine
January 11th, 2007, 05:00 PM
Like Adri, I'd heard and seen the "glass jars" thing. Several of our neighbors did it in Aiea when I was a kid. Had no idea if it worked, or the basic concept. Something about the reflection unnerving trespassers, though I don't know if it was aimed specifically at domestic pets.

I didn't check if I posted in this thread.:p

K-den. Here at MWH there are ukapila gallons of water filled jugs surrounding yards. It must do the job cause the practice continues. I live on the first floor. I don't follow my neighbors in what they do. Why? It's ugly.:eek: You get nice yard with beautiful flowers only to spoil it by putting "plastic" gallons filled with water like Dominos to prevent Cat's? I no tink so.

My problem is dee DOGS!:p

Yep! They still roaming around. Rules and Regulations?

Plezzzzzzzzzzzzz.

pzarquon
January 11th, 2007, 06:38 PM
Here at MWH there are ukapila gallons of water filled jugs surrounding yards.Jugs? Like milk jugs? As in, translucent, rather than clear glass or plastic? That's... bizarre. That would definitely go against the theory I was told about the whole thing as an animal deterrent. Maybe it's just ridiculous superstition? Maybe they saw "Signs" one too many times? :p

blueyecicle
January 11th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Jugs? Like milk jugs? As in, translucent, rather than clear glass or plastic? That's... bizarre. That would definitely go against the theory I was told about the whole thing as an animal deterrent. Maybe it's just ridiculous superstition? Maybe they saw "Signs" one too many times? :p

You see them EVERYWHERE in the country here. BIG time.

i-hungry
January 13th, 2007, 01:49 PM
I read about putting chili pepper powder in the garden.

I don't know how effective that is. I suppose the powder would be irritating to their noses.