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Karen
September 19th, 2004, 02:32 PM
I luv Haleiwa, so went there to eat at Cholo's last night. The food was not bad, nor was the ambiance, but it was NOT authentic nor real as I am used to, and I lived 13yrs. in San Antonio, Texas! (ten in Austin...you get the idea, our family KNOWS authentic)

I ordered the Taco Salad, and the shell was light, flakey like a great pie crust, it was divine, veggies fresh, but mine was supposed to have ground beef (vs. shredded) and I had to dig to the bottom to find what they called beef mixed with refried beans? and very little of that. Family members that ordered enchiladas said they were NOT authentic, but if you knew what to expect, they were okay, just sorta Cholo's own recipe.

Anyone know of AUTHENTIC Mexican food place, on island? I hope it isn't downtown, for I'd rather sit in the dentist's chair than to have to DRIVE there myself. (G)

Linkmeister
September 19th, 2004, 02:44 PM
For reasons unknown (although relatively cheap rents would be my guess), most of the Mexican restaurants seem to be in Kaimuki. I've heard good things about Toritos in Market City; José's is ok (not necessarily very authentic, but ok).

When Mama's died in Moanalua Shopping Center I was frustrated, but when the other one on School Street closed I was devastated. The food wasn't super, but it was close to authentic (at least to my formerly Arizonan eyes), and the décor was what I remember from my Arizona/Southern California days.

However, you ain't lived till you've eaten Mexican food on your birthday in London, England. Now that was an experience.

Miulang
September 19th, 2004, 03:21 PM
I luv Haleiwa, so went there to eat at Cholo's last night. The food was not bad, nor was the ambiance, but it was NOT authentic nor real as I am used to, and I lived 13yrs. in San Antonio, Texas! (ten in Austin...you get the idea, our family KNOWS authentic)

I ordered the Taco Salad, and the shell was light, flakey like a great pie crust, it was divine, veggies fresh, but mine was supposed to have ground beef (vs. shredded) and I had to dig to the bottom to find what they called beef mixed with refried beans? and very little of that. Family members that ordered enchiladas said they were NOT authentic, but if you knew what to expect, they were okay, just sorta Cholo's own recipe.

Anyone know of AUTHENTIC Mexican food place, on island? I hope it isn't downtown, for I'd rather sit in the dentist's chair than to have to DRIVE there myself. (G)

I would imagine that it might be kind of tough to find "authentic" Mexican food anywhere in Hawaii. And the stuff from Taxes is by no means authentic either. It's Tex-Mex, which is very different from the Mexican regional cuisine which I doubt you could get anywhere in this country unless you cracked open a cookbook by Diana Kennedy. Mexican food from New Mexico is more authentic than Mexican food in Taxes. Whatever you can find in Hawaii is going to be geared more to what Mexicans (if they own the establishment) think Americans think Mexican food should taste like (a la Taco Bell). We have a lot of Mexican immigrants from Michoacan and Sonora states up here in Seattle and some of them have small restaurants that serve home cooking. You want authentic? Tuck into a bowl of menudo !

BTW: I loved Austin when I visited there a couple of years ago (might be there in a couple of weeks again). A lot of people who live in Austin are actually from somewhere else, and many of them don't like to be associated with the rest of Texas.

Miulang

scrivener
September 19th, 2004, 06:18 PM
I've heard good things about Toritos in Market City;
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When Mama's died in Moanalua Shopping Center I was frustrated, but when the other one on School Street closed I was devastated.

Torito's is quite good. Mama's on School Street was a regular stop for me. One day, there was a sign in the window saying it had opened in a new location, but nothing to indicate where.

Quintero's on Young and Piikoi is terrific; it's usually my preferred birthday-dinner location. The owners of Quintero's opened, just a week ago, a new "authentic" taco shop on Makaloa Street near Kalakaua called La Michoacana. The menu features tacos, tortas, and burritos. I had a couple of soft tacos--one with ground beef and one with shredded--and was really pleased. The tortillas had that wonderful, springy feel I've come to associate with good Mexican places, and everyone working in the restaurant speaks Spanish and sings along with the Spanish-language music playing on the stereo. Two soft tacos (supreme) cost five bucks.

Karen
September 19th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Hey gal, your last, first! (G)

I hear Austin has turned into a liberal bastion and at times almost as looney as Bezerkely, california. I don't know cuz I lived there from '
58 to '69, and still have relatives all over South Texas. Probably those that don't want to be associated with Texas are unworhty to be, also. (big grin)

No, not all the Mexican food in Texas is Tex/Mex. I have been fed REAL Tamales and near-real Tamales at Christmas time, and my own ex-step sister, a Mexican herself, fixes REAL rice and beans which are as Mexican as they can get. So are her beef enchiladas, anyway, yes you make a good point about Tex-Mex, but being so close to the border, I assure you that there are restaurants in San Antonio and South Texas that are authentic Mexican food, owned and operated by Mexicans that have legally moved there from Mexico, others using recipes handed down from their families in Mexico, etc.

I heard that in Kailua there is a Mexican restaurant that is owned and operated by Mexicans, and that the food is much more real than Cholos. I have not heard the name, as the person that mentioned it didn't know the name, etc, and had heard about it through others.

Menudo! I vaguely recall having it once, but can't remember if I liked it, or not.

By the way, why do you spell Texas, as Taxes? Maybe just a repeated typo, but it is a funny one cuz Texas, of all states is, is one of the lowest on taxes, no state income tax, and they do not tax food nor medical supplies, doc visits, etc. (Ya got me wondering here)

Maybe I will hear from someone that knows the place in Kailua, and has eaten there.





I would imagine that it might be kind of tough to find "authentic" Mexican food anywhere in Hawaii. And the stuff from Taxes is by no means authentic either. It's Tex-Mex, which is very different from the Mexican regional cuisine which I doubt you could get anywhere in this country unless you cracked open a cookbook by Diana Kennedy. Mexican food from New Mexico is more authentic than Mexican food in Taxes. Whatever you can find in Hawaii is going to be geared more to what Mexicans (if they own the establishment) think Americans think Mexican food should taste like (a la Taco Bell). We have a lot of Mexican immigrants from Michoacan and Sonora states up here in Seattle and some of them have small restaurants that serve home cooking. You want authentic? Tuck into a bowl of menudo !

BTW: I loved Austin when I visited there a couple of years ago (might be there in a couple of weeks again). A lot of people who live in Austin are actually from somewhere else, and many of them don't like to be associated with the rest of Texas.

Miulang

Karen
September 19th, 2004, 07:20 PM
LOL Mexican Food in London?! Oh dear, I hope you had cake, too. (G)







For reasons unknown (although relatively cheap rents would be my guess), most of the Mexican restaurants seem to be in Kaimuki. I've heard good things about Toritos in Market City; José's is ok (not necessarily very authentic, but ok).

When Mama's died in Moanalua Shopping Center I was frustrated, but when the other one on School Street closed I was devastated. The food wasn't super, but it was close to authentic (at least to my formerly Arizonan eyes), and the décor was what I remember from my Arizona/Southern California days.

However, you ain't lived till you've eaten Mexican food on your birthday in London, England. Now that was an experience.

Miulang
September 19th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Menudo! I vaguely recall having it once, but can't remember if I liked it, or not.

By the way, why do you spell Texas, as Taxes? Maybe just a repeated typo, but it is a funny one cuz Texas, of all states is, is one of the lowest on taxes, no state income tax, and they do not tax food nor medical supplies, doc visits, etc. (Ya got me wondering here)

Menudo is a kind of tripe soup, but it's definitely not like the tripe stew locals eat! If you can find a place that serves home style cooking, you're more guaranteed to get "authentic" food than if you went to some yupscale dining establishment. When I dine ethnic, I make sure to check out the faces of the other diners...if there are ethnic people in there eating their own ethnic food, then I figure it's as "authentic" as you can get it here (some of the ingredients you can't find in this country).

I say "Taxes" (no it wasn't a typo, it was deliberate) because that's what I heard the big haired women in Dallas call the state (I was in a hotel in Dallas once and they were having some sort of GOP wingdingdoo in one of the ballrooms and George HW was supposed to be in attendance. There were all these society type ladies in their beaded evening gowns and big hair standing around, enjoying cocktails...me? I was in jeans. Shaquille O'Neill was also staying there and he got mobbed in an elevator by some groupies).

The people I know from Austin ("newcomers") say they're embarrassed to be associated with the State of Texas. I really do like Austin, though, even its bats. :D

Miulang

P.S. I used to make tamales using an authentic recipe, but the lard that's needed to make the masa is too high in calories for me to eat nowadays. :( I actually like Veracruzan food because most of it's seafood.

Glen Miyashiro
September 19th, 2004, 08:37 PM
There's a Tex-Mex place in town called El Charro that I like. Here are a couple of reviews:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2002/Nov/29/en/en10a.html
http://starbulletin.com/2002/09/01/features/eater.html

Karen
September 19th, 2004, 10:21 PM
Hey there again, gal, thanks for the posts, as this is fun!

The best tamales I ever had were made by Mexican women at Christmas time in their homes, to make money to fund their own Christmases, and they are and were as authentic as the heart of Mexico makes them, being made in their own kitchens, and cost about seven dollars a dozen. Christmas Eve buffet wouldn't be one, without them, but I haven't had them since I was home in Dec. of 97.

"Big haired women" in dallas? LOL yes, we have a few of them in our family, being native Texan. They are Pentecostal, too. (G) Amazingly, they have natural beauty and only take away from it with their dress up stuff. Oh wow, we do have something in common, you and me....Forever in blue jeans, you got it. Dressing up is wearing a pretty blouse with my jeans, and maybe wearing white Levis, or black, woo hoo. I literally own no dresses, skirts or anything but denim, except for my mom's funeral in 97, I did actually buy an upscale pantsuit to wear. Donated it to the Salvation Army since then, besides it's too warm to wear in the islands.

My memory seems to recall Menudo as a Mexican stew. I am not too familiar with the term "tripe" but can only say I have heard it before. anyway, South of san Antone there are Menudo cookoffs, just like there are chili cookoffs. Oh goodness, all of this talk about food is making me reminisce about a lot of things. My parents made a wonderful venison stew! My mom made excellent Mexican cornbread, the kind with meat, corn and cheese right in it.

Newcomers to Austin? Oh I can understand why they aren't proud to be Texans, since they aren't. I was born down near Corpus Christi, and every year for too many years now, I have missed a large weekend long family reunion near there, and every Labor day weekend, I have missed a three day reunion on lake Austin.

I hear ya about the calories of the tamales, but at least they are filling. A couple of them and a salad, and a person can actually eat them, but it requires self-discipline. I graduated high school in '75 weighing 300lbs!! the fattest person, and of course fattest girl in my entire school. I lost 160lbs. in the late seventies, and kept it off, except for 20lbs that crept back on during two pregnancies, but I assure you I live very calorie-aware. Mexican food is NOT conducive to low cal living, but I do know how to eat what I want occasionally, and not several days, nor meals in a row.

I think I've brainstormed enough here. It's been fun, thanks again.




Menudo is a kind of tripe soup, but it's definitely not like the tripe stew locals eat! If you can find a place that serves home style cooking, you're more guaranteed to get "authentic" food than if you went to some yupscale dining establishment. When I dine ethnic, I make sure to check out the faces of the other diners...if there are ethnic people in there eating their own ethnic food, then I figure it's as "authentic" as you can get it here (some of the ingredients you can't find in this country).

I say "Taxes" (no it wasn't a typo, it was deliberate) because that's what I heard the big haired women in Dallas call the state (I was in a hotel in Dallas once and they were having some sort of GOP wingdingdoo in one of the ballrooms and George HW was supposed to be in attendance. There were all these society type ladies in their beaded evening gowns and big hair standing around, enjoying cocktails...me? I was in jeans. Shaquille O'Neill was also staying there and he got mobbed in an elevator by some groupies).

The people I know from Austin ("newcomers") say they're embarrassed to be associated with the State of Texas. I really do like Austin, though, even its bats. :D

Miulang

P.S. I used to make tamales using an authentic recipe, but the lard that's needed to make the masa is too high in calories for me to eat nowadays. :( I actually like Veracruzan food because most of it's seafood.

Miulang
September 20th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Hui Karen!
Congrats to you on your discipline and incredible weight loss. You know, eating the local food in Hawaii is almost as bad as eating tamales! When you have white rice and mac salad on the same plate, Dr. Atkins (if he was still alive) would have another heart attack :D

Malama pono,
Miulang

glossyp
September 20th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Check out El Burrito on Piikoi and El Charro on Sand Island. Links to recent reviews below:

http://www.hawaiidiner.com/reviews/review.php?review=11

http://www.hawaiidiner.com/reviews/review.php?review=24

Albert
September 20th, 2004, 09:52 AM
Hey, the Mexican food in Texas is MUCH better than the food in Mexico, at least in the border towns. I wonder if "The Original" is still open in San Antonio?

Nobody on this island seems to know how to make a decent tortilla, but then the India restaurants here can't make a decent chappati, either.

craigwatanabe
September 20th, 2004, 10:01 AM
I dated an Aztec Indian/Mexican (very beautiful combination) for about 4-years and she made the best quesadias. I took her out to Compadre's and she thought they made very good Mexican food. I was a bit surpirzed because of the commercialism of the place and the fact that it wasn't a "hole in the wall" that typically serves the best of anything.

I lived in Southwestern Idaho and experienced great Mexican food there. One of the biggest myths surrounding this cuisine is that it's hot. Not true. Authentic Mexican food doesn't rely on spices or peppers, that style is more apparent in regions below Mexico such as the Aztecs. My ex-girlfriend told me the differences and it confirmed my observations in Idaho that if it's spicy then it's more indian than Mexican.

Karen
September 20th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Hi Albert!

I have lived away from SA for too dang long, and hadn't heard of "The Original" but if this mind of mine could remember to ask relatives, I can ask, as I do talk on phone with Texas a couple of times a week.

Karen
September 20th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Hi Craig~
You brought up a true point about the peppers! We add jalapenos to recipes that don't call for them. My hubby prefers them in Mexican Cornbread, while my mom didn't in her recipe, and darnit, I lost hers. Peppers are said to revv up our metabolism, and I try to remember that and eat them for just that reason, and of course, if I have a cold, I reach for raw garlic and peppers, man they work wonders for congestion.

Karen
September 20th, 2004, 07:35 PM
Check out El Burrito on Piikoi and El Charro on Sand Island. Links to recent reviews below:

http://www.hawaiidiner.com/reviews/review.php?review=11

http://www.hawaiidiner.com/reviews/review.php?review=24


Thank you! links and all....sigh, I can tell it's dinner time. ;)

Karen
September 20th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Congrats to you on your discipline and incredible weight loss. You know, eating the local food in Hawaii is almost as bad as eating tamales! When you have white rice and mac salad on the same plate, Dr. Atkins (if he was still alive) would have another heart attack :DHey gal!

thanks, and you have an excellent point. Reason I like "Panda Express" so much is that their fried foods are not at all greasey, man they are good and dry in a good way. They fry tofu and put with veggies, and I just am astounded at how it doesn't seem fried, ya know?

Tell ya what fascinates me is that so many of the cooks at some local places, mom and pop places, they are so skinny while they are busy making FRIED rice and dishes that you can tell have the fat in them. Hmm..what's up with that? (G)

Albert
September 23rd, 2004, 02:10 PM
"Tell ya what fascinates me is that so many of the cooks at some local places, mom and pop places, they are so skinny"

Sort of a counterpoint to me wondering why so many homeless people in this town are so fat. :)

craigwatanabe
September 23rd, 2004, 03:27 PM
Albert, it's obvious you don't cook a whole lot. When you're cooking and smelling the food all day long you kinda lose your appetite. I barbecue so much that I really don't get to enjoy my cooking, I'm just not that hungry after all that bbqing.

As for homeless people, they tend to eat a lot of high sodium foods (ie canned processed stuff) that really bloats you up. That's why when I donate to the Hawaii Food Bank I try not to give too much canned foods. Nutrition bars and canned Ensure are great subs to donate. They have a long shelf life, don't require refrigeration and their nutritious.

Miulang
September 23rd, 2004, 03:56 PM
Albert, it's obvious you don't cook a whole lot. When you're cooking and smelling the food all day long you kinda lose your appetite. I barbecue so much that I really don't get to enjoy my cooking, I'm just not that hungry after all that bbqing.

As for homeless people, they tend to eat a lot of high sodium foods (ie canned processed stuff) that really bloats you up. That's why when I donate to the Hawaii Food Bank I try not to give too much canned foods. Nutrition bars and canned Ensure are great subs to donate. They have a long shelf life, don't require refrigeration and their nutritious.
Every Christmas, we do a Costco food run for the hungry. You can't call most of these people homeless though. At least not up here. We have a lot of working poor people, people who are employed (mostly in service jobs) whose rent is so high they have to choose between paying for their lights v. putting a meal on the table! To the local foodbank, we give cases of dried fruit (individual single serving sizes), boxes of pasta, tomato sauce, canned tuna, canned veggies and canned fruit. To the homeless people who live outside in tents all year round, we give cans of coffee, paper goods, granola bars, batteries, first aid kits (the small ones), knitted caps and mittens, bars of soap, deodorant. To the women in domestic violence shelters, we give toiletry gift sets. And we also "adopt" 6 kids from homeless shelters and get them Christmas presents. It's just a little we can do because we really have so much, and there but for the grace of God, we could be in their shoes.

Miulang

Karen
September 23rd, 2004, 08:07 PM
HI Craig,

that was my fault, not Albert's, as he was just quoting me, in my wondering about skinny people that are cooking and serving high fat, loca foods. No, I don't cook a lot, I eat all I can in salads, raw foods, tristcuits with ham and cheese, and things like that. After having been a porked-out 300lbs, the last thing I desire is being a good cook. My hubby was a bachelor till he was 27, I think it was, and he had learned the art of cooking, so again, I am relieved of the desire or even need to be a good cook, and/or cook a lot. Oh I cook, but it's the side dishes, and he does the meats and heavy stuff.

I heard on the news here recently that the food banks, one or two are very low right now. WELL...how can we get this ball rolling, folks?! By "this ball" I mean getting local businesses to leave bins in their stores or parking lots, I guess outside is not a good idea, (horrible people that will steal) and these bins are for YEAR round donating to food banks, instead of just the yearly food drives?!!!

I mean C'MON!! folks like all of us here will welcome the CONVENIENT way to donate year round and be very glad to do so, every week of my life. When we have the annual food drives, I find myself asking those taking my food why we can't donate easily year round, and they tell me what a nice idea I have, but it doesn't go anywhere.

Tutulady
September 27th, 2004, 11:27 AM
There's a great hole in the wall located in Waipahu (across from the Kaiser Punawai Clinic in the same "shopping center" as Highway Inn) that is probably as close to authentic as could possibly be here in Hawai'i. This assessment is based on my past food experience in Mexico, as well as comparisons with other local Mexican (or pseudo Mexicano) Restaurante's like Mama's, Compadre's, etc. The owners/cooks are Mexican and speak to their workers and or ethnic customers in their native tongue. I have been there a few times and have noticed that they are patronized by a lot of their own people which is a great thing in our view. Oh, by the way, the name of this place is called La Familia Mexicano Retaurante and if memory serves me right, they won the 'Ilima Award a couple of years ago for best mexican restaurant. Lyle (Galdera) and Sam (Choy) did a pit top there too. You can read about that here (http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=812326&nav=0borNdau). My husband fell in love with their gorditas. I like most everything on their menu but especially like their fresh chips, salsa and homemade guacamole. The most popular dish (according to the owners) seems to be the carne asada though. They also offer spices, candy and beverages from Mexico as well. Talk about popularity, I work down in Kalaeloa (Campbell Industrial Park), and was pleasantly surprised to see a new lunchwagon amongst those already there. Its sporting the La Familia Banner and I have seen it around a few days a week for the past 2-3 weeks. :D

glossyp
September 27th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Thanks for the info on La Familia - I've heard about it but could never actually locate it but I think I can now.

Serenity
October 3rd, 2004, 12:14 AM
I am not sure if it is "authentic",
this place use to be in Wahiawa,
infact it's in Calif. Ave.
Now they have a really good mexican food.
I am not sure if they are still there or not,
but their food was good. El Charro, now that one
is prettt good to. They are in Sand Isl. Access Rd.
Thumbs up for El Charro. :)

Thanks gang for those extra links.

Well, it's unanimous.
El Charro seem to have come out ahead!. ;)

So, who's treating? :D

kimo55
December 10th, 2004, 12:19 AM
When Mama's died in Moanalua Shopping Center I was frustrated, but when the other one on School Street closed I was devastated. The food wasn't super, but it was close to authentic (at least to my formerly Arizonan eyes), and the décor was what I remember from my Arizona/Southern California days.


Wow. Mama's mexican Kitchen.
Dolores, her Mom and Papa...owned and ran it.
Laurrro (roll the R) was a cook and Dolores's husband. he was ruff and she was sweet.
Lauro always was trying to beef wit me, cuz he was jealous; thot Dolores paid me too much attention. She just appreciated decent conversation. he was primal. ha. His brother tried to fight me too. We would go out to the back parking lot and it would end up to be just mutual fanning each other with fists cuz working togeddah, we jez couldn't bring ourselves to really draw blood.
I was a cook there for a while early/mid 70s. Got my brother a job there too. Saw the kala the waiters made, so did that too. A Phillipino guy, a good friend whose name i forgot, worked with me as well as a haole hippie dude, Byron who went on to cater and work as top chef at many five star hotels. (just discovered old super 8mm home movie footage of the place. ho, da memories)
Mama's had a location on Ena Rd. upstairs just makai of that ampm 7-11 shop. I worked with a sweet Hawaiian woman who came to work really sad one day and found out her mahu son, a frail nice kid, but too guileless for his own good; hung around the mauka side Hotel St. too much and too late at night. He was found really beat up behind the Glade that previous nite by da cops. (found by da cops, not beat up by da cops. I hope.)


Mama's was BYOB, so many brought coolers of beer. some brought wine. (yes wine. with mexican food. I couldn't do it...) and we saved the decorative bottles and placed them all around the room for decor.
We celebrated a mama's birthday Company party at their Moanalua shopping center location.

Another fave mexican restaurant of ours back when was la paloma's on Kapiolani.
We went to Jose's some too. back in the 60's and 70's Oahu was home to so many cool local individual mom and pop restaurants and bars. Corporate america has killed off much of this and now, Oahu begins to resemble a part of the L.A. basin.
so sad.

kimo55
December 10th, 2004, 12:27 AM
Don't forget Azteca round da corner from the post office in kaimuki. quite a few notches above Jose's in quality. Nice family own and run it and the view is great; a verry cute waitress was there when i went last to tend to our culinary needs


One nite watching a hawaii 5-0 episode, they were walking along king st. to sneak into the termite palace to watch a baseball game. One of the last shops before the park was a surf shop. (early 70's) In its place now, I noticed a taco shop. Have not tried it yet.


oh yea.
and torito's is pretty good. If you are very hungry and very thirsty if you ever find yerself in Waikiki, here's the format:
get taco, enchilada plate. s/c, guac, and their special HOT sauce.
You haveta stand there and 'splain everything slowly in detail and confirm it WHEN they hand it to ya. cuz they get things wrong soo much of the time.
But they are nice, so I go there alot.
Then next door, get an oi lcan of Fosters to wash it all down with while you "peoplewatch" and snikker at da tourons and the way they talk and dress.
ho da t'rills, yea!?

the best things in life are nineteen ninety five.

kimo55
December 10th, 2004, 08:19 AM
Then next door, get an oi lcan of Fosters to wash it all down with


i meant "an oil can of Fosters." (it's Canadian for beer, eh!)
you know da beeg kine.
blalah size.

ya gotta do this wikiwiki, cuz da place goin be all buss up soon.
get this;
For 3 years. Innnashnull mahket place. all hammajang li dat. THEN! 3 MORE years of construction.
(ok. sounds like a new thread; Old Waikiki/new Waikiki)

kimo55
March 26th, 2006, 08:06 PM
ooookay, gotta rant about a new find..... for us anyway.

Old skool kine.
BYOB.
funky cool decor. Like da ol days mama's mexican ktichen.

nex time you steh Kaneohe side, try

Mexico Lindo
46-132 Kahuhipa Street Suite A
Kaneohe, HI 96744-3800

Amazingly fast and friendly service. the dude serving us was a really nice guy. Sweet in fact, if a guy can say that.
It's now one of our faves.
Soon to be yours too.
chance um!

damontucker
March 26th, 2006, 09:21 PM
As alot of readers know... I came from the Northwest...

We used to have choke Mexican restaurants because of the population of "immigrant apple pickers." (Not to offend... but that is what a lot of the mexican families did in washington...

Therefore, I will say I love my Mexican food and think I know something about it.

I have lived on Oahu for about 9 years now... I still have yet to find a Mexican restaraunt as good as Reubens in Hilo on the Big Island. (Geez, does it still exist?)

Miulang
March 26th, 2006, 09:48 PM
As alot of readers know... I came from the Northwest...

We used to have choke Mexican restaurants because of the population of "immigrant apple pickers." (Not to offend... but that is what a lot of the mexican families did in washington...

Therefore, I will say I love my Mexican food and think I know something about it.

I have lived on Oahu for about 9 years now... I still have yet to find a Mexican restaraunt as good as Reubens in Hilo on the Big Island. (Geez, does it still exist?)
No worry...pretty soon going get ucka pila "authentic" Mexican restaurants (and Brazilian and Puerto Rican restaurants too) because get plenty Hispanic (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060326/NEWS01/603260346/1190/NEWS) people "discovering" Hawai'i and moving there. Usually one of the easiest things for new immigrants to do is open up their own business, which invariably will have something to do with their cuisine. And the new immigrants take the jobs that no one else wants to do, so they do provide a valuable service. They are the new wave of immigrants to Hawai'i.

Miulang

MadAzza
March 27th, 2006, 09:19 AM
They are the new wave of immigrants to Hawai'i.

Where they gonna live?

<eek! running away fast>

MadAzza
March 27th, 2006, 09:22 AM
As alot of readers know... I came from the Northwest...

Me, too! Do you remember Campos in the U. District in Seattle? My mom and one of my sisters and I would go there when Dad was away on business. It was our "girls' night out." That would have been ... let's see, maybe in about 1972-1977, something like that? I'm pretty bad on remembering dates, but I think it was somewhere in that range.

Miulang
March 27th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Where they gonna live?

<eek! running away fast>
Wherever they end up living, you can bet it won't be as a single family in a single family home with a yard! :eek: It'll probably be more like multiple families (and/or generations) in a single family home (if they're lucky), just like when the other first generation immigrants landed in Hawai'i: multiple families working hard for what little they have, pooling their resources so they can make better lives for their keiki.

Miulang

BTW: Maddie, I found the following Letter to the Editor of the Seattle Times from one of the sons of the owners of Campos:

"History lessons

Maria Luz Lara Lopes ("Grand Dames," May 9) did not open "the city's first authentic Mexican restaurant" in Seattle. My parents called her Lucy when she worked for them at their Mexican restaurant: Campos Mexican Restaurant in the University District. Some of her food was based on my parents' and uncle's recipes. My father will send you articles from The Seattle Times that talk about their restaurant way before Lucy ever started a Mexican restaurant in this area. ...

My father and uncle were well known as being the experts in Mexican food back in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Besides running their restaurant, they supervised a large exhibit/booth at the Seattle World's Fair serving Mexican food.

— Marcos E. Campos, Brier "

Da Rolling Eye
March 27th, 2006, 11:35 AM
Mexican restaurant on Kam Hwy in Wahiawa just over the bridge is junk. Too much chiles. Too hot to taste. I only saw non-Mexicans eating there when we went.

Y'all missed one of the best for they have closed. Los Tres Compadres was located in Wahiawa Shopping Center and had the best homestyle Mexican food I've tasted locally. They ran a buffet lunch and dinner everyday for around $8 as well as serving menu items. The owner rarely used chiles in his food and more than half his clientele were Mexican families, local and military. When our boyz got sent to Iraq, he lost most of his business and the locals just couldn't keep him afloat. Sure hope he opens up another shop. :(

Going to have to look up La Familia. Thanks for the tip. :)

kimo55
March 27th, 2006, 11:49 AM
I only saw non-Mexicans eating there when we went.
well, that's the pits...
In that case, I would not go near it.

Miulang
March 27th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Up here I see lots of Hispanic people eating at the Chinese buffets! :D

Miulang

LikaNui
March 27th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Never feed Mexican food to a baby. And here's why: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TH0rS4hyJzg

:p

1stwahine
March 27th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Mama's Mexican Kitchen! Every time I hear of the place I cry! :(

BroKimo, I know you know the recipe foa da Chile Verde. Please. I beg ya! Nobody makes um like Mama's Mexican Kitchen.

Ahhh...I wish I had an authentic Taco right now! Or a Gorilla Burrito. (No, not a gorilla walk like dey do in Prison!) :p

Mexican Food? I'm a sucker for Mexican Food. Authentic Mexican Food! :D

Auntie Alohilani Anani
(das my new name)

Creative-1
March 27th, 2006, 02:39 PM
How about Diego's Taco Shop? One on Kam Hwy in PC and another on King Street near Isenberg. Their food is inexpensive and delicious.

I used to eat at Mama's weekly. Loved their taquitos and salsa.

I go to LA Thursday and will make a bee line to my favorite taco shop there - Tito's Tacos in Culver City (Washington near Sepulveda). The best salsa I've ever had.

Tacos are maybe $1.30 each. Three fill me up. They also are generous with chips. Don't be afraid of the huge lines. It moves fast.

In San Diego, my favorite place is El Indio's. (India near Grape Street). They make their own tortillas. Taquitos with guacamole and cheese. Yum. I'll be there Sunday.

Da Rolling Eye
March 27th, 2006, 06:46 PM
The best tacos I had was in San Diego. A little hole in the wall place that served them over the counter in a little white bag. As you eat them, the bag would catch all the grease drippings. Only problem with that place was location. My host warned me to keep an eye out on the street. Lots of drive by shootings in that neighborhood. If I heard tires screeching around the corner, I was to hit the deck. :eek: It was also a good thing my host lived only a couple of blocks away. The greasy tacos lubed everything from the going in end to the going out end. :D

Just came back from an early dinner at La Familia. No raves. Our daughter couldn't even eat the kids taco. Was too spicy. :confused: Had the chile verde. Heat was borderline, for me. Almost too much. Taste was good, but I've had better. No raves from the wife over her order of enchiladas. Most other places we've been to included a side of flour or corn tortillas with the meal. None here. For us, it's not good enough for a return visit. No arguments from me if someone else loves the place. Just different strokes. :)

Jonah K
March 27th, 2006, 06:58 PM
I go to LA Thursday and will make a bee line to my favorite taco shop there - Tito's Tacos in Culver City (Washington near Sepulveda). The best salsa I've ever had.

Tacos are maybe $1.30 each. Three fill me up. They also are generous with chips. Don't be afraid of the huge lines. It moves fast.

In San Diego, my favorite place is El Indio's. (India near Grape Street). They make their own tortillas. Taquitos with guacamole and cheese. Yum. I'll be there Sunday.
Tito's Tacos is pretty good. King Taco (http://www.kingtaco.com/) (especially the one on Cesar Chavez Ave.) is quite good as well. For the San Diego area, I like the tacos al pastor at Porkyland (http://www.tortillaland.com/porkyland.htm) in La Jolla. The best Mexican restaurant on the Big Island is probably Luquin's in Pāhoa. :D

kimo55
March 27th, 2006, 07:00 PM
hot spicy mexican food.
whoda thunk it.

MadAzza
March 27th, 2006, 09:21 PM
BTW: Maddie, I found the following Letter to the Editor of the Seattle Times from one of the sons of the owners of Campos:

Hey, Miulang, how cool is that? Thanks! I didn't know any of that. I just liked the food, which really stands out in my memory. Now I have some backstory. Mahalos!

Palolo Joe
March 28th, 2006, 12:52 AM
Up here I see lots of Hispanic people eating at the Chinese buffets!

Because they're also the ones in the kitchen...

alohacandy
March 28th, 2006, 01:10 AM
Kimo...I enjoy Mexico Lindo in Kaneohe as well. They have another place now in Kailua which has a liquor license but I haven't been there yet. I like El Mariachi in Kaneohe as well...it is more of a hole in the wall in size but it's always packed with customers.
That place in Wahiawa that was mentioned earlier (on Kam Hwy) has always had plenty of military guys of Mexican descent when I've gone.
I love hot, spicy foods.....love jalapenos. My daughter (who is now 14) would eat hot sauce and salsa right out of the bowls even at 6 months of age. :eek:

Surfingfarmboy
March 28th, 2006, 03:14 AM
I'd like to mention a little story here about Cholo's.

In December of 2000, during one of my trips over to Oahu for the marathon, I decided one morning to get out of the city and get a long training run in along that little bike path that runs intermittantly along the North Shore, from appx. Pupukea to Sunset Beach.

I drove my mom's car out to one of the beaches just northeast of Haleiwa. I don't know what beach it was, but it was one with a small parking space for maybe ten cars, and it was right on the bike path..I parked there cause it appeared to be the perfect place to start and end my training run..a very convienient place to park the car.

I went out, and got in a good solid run, out and back, from where I parked, (in the vicinity of Pupukea) to Turtle Bay. When I returned back into the Pupukea area, I noticed that I couldn't find my mom's car..it wasn't where I thought it was..or maybe it was, but I simply didn't make the proper mental note of where I actually parked the it. I thought to myself that I must have passed it on the return back towards Pupukea..so I made a big mistake, and headed back (running still) towards Sunset Beach in search of it. I ended back in Sunset Beach having not located the car. Again, I headed back towards Pupukea again, this time stopping again in Pupukea where I was absolutely certain I had parked the car. Once again, no car.

Okay, so now I was in panic mode...I couldn't find the car for anything..so I once again, still running, I returned towards Sunset Beach, hoping that somewhere I'd find the car in a place it was but I thought it couldn't have been. Again..I ended back in Sunset Beach, with the car not to be found.

Frustrated, I went into a 76 station in Sunset Beach owned by a Mrs. Park, hoping someone in there might have an idea where my car was, if I gave them some clues to what I recalled about the place where I had parked it. I explained to Mrs. Park (who was in-shop during my panic attack) of the predicament I was in. She tried her best to help me, asking me questions about what the area I had parked the car looked like, i.e., were there any notable lankmarks I could recall, etc.

While Mrs. Park and I tried to figure out where I might have parked the car, a woman buying gas at the station overheard our conversation, and offered to help me out. She would drive me along the highway where I thought my car was until we found it.

It turns out this woman was the owner of Cholo's in Haleiwa...who, during our conversation while searching for the car, mentioned that she was once a Rhode Islander from Narragansett..she was floored when I mentioned that I was an ex-island boy now residing across the bay from her old town, in Bristol, Rhode Island. Small world, yeah?

We did find the car eventully...it was less than a tenth of mile from where I was ending my searches in the Pupukea area..I was simply disoriented where I was, and if I had just kept going a little further...well..hindsight is 20/20. My planned training run of 16 miles must have, after all of the running between Pupukea and Sunset Beach got factored in, turned into a run of around 22 miles.

She ( I never got her name!) invited me over to Cholo's for dinner sometime during my stay on Oahu, but I never got around to taking her up on the offer.

I've never been to Cholo's in Haleiwa...I wonder if it's still owned by this woman?

Da Rolling Eye
March 28th, 2006, 07:19 AM
My daughter (who is now 14) would eat hot sauce and salsa right out of the bowls even at 6 months of age.
Oooh, crazy baby. ;) We keep teasing my daughter asking, "Eh, wot kine Korean girl you?" She'll eat a chip with salsa and go for her milk saying she's only thirsty. Yeah right. <LOL> I actually do like spicy food, but only when I'm in the mood for it. I guess I just don't like my chile verde spicy. Green chiles have a nice flavor and I like to taste it when I eat it. I kinda judge Mexican restaurants on their chile verde. ;) Guess I gotta make my own. Eh, Kimo, where's dat recipe? :p

kimo55
March 28th, 2006, 08:59 AM
>>>>>> I like El Mariachi in Kaneohe as well..

Gotta try that sometime!

>>>>>>My daughter (who is now 14) would eat hot sauce and salsa right out of the bowls even at 6 months of age.


Yow!

small keed time, usta put tabasco on erryting i ate almost.

Linkmeister
March 28th, 2006, 10:44 AM
When I was working at Beverly Hills Country Club in Culver City on Motor Drive El Nopal (http://dinesite.com/info/rstrnt-251248/??&t=0) was an easy walk away. I probably ate lunch there twice a week. Good food, fast service, and low prices (in the 1980s, anyway).

kimo55
March 28th, 2006, 10:53 AM
When I was working at Beverly Hills Country Club
been there a few times, then, too!

The review sez:
"This well-known hole-in-the-wall is often packed despite its Mexican knick-knack decor"
huh?! as if that kine decor should scare people off?!

1stwahine
March 28th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I worked on Treasure Island for Selective Service Region V Headquarters. I used to drive to a Mexican Resturant on 3rd and Market Street in San Francisco. Their soft tacos with pork tasted like Kalua Pig was sooo Ono. Even their Lemon cake wuz Onoono :D

While in Stockton try Adabertos!

Auntie Lynn ;)

D'Alani
March 28th, 2006, 06:05 PM
When in East Los Angeles go to "Manuel's" off Brooklyn kinda small but very ono food.

anapuni808
March 28th, 2006, 11:04 PM
what is considered "authentic" Mexican food? for myself - I figure if its cooked by Mexicans, then it is authentic. So places like El Charo, Azteca, Toritos (well, they are from Central America), Just Tacos - they would be considered "authentic". What exactly do non-Mexicans consider "authentic" ?

Fran

kimo55
March 28th, 2006, 11:11 PM
so.
If a Mexican is working at taco bell. They are making authentic Mexican food.
hmmmm....

Linkmeister
March 29th, 2006, 07:03 AM
If you make homemade Mexican food at home (beef & cheese burritos last night!), are you...nah.

Miulang
March 29th, 2006, 07:18 AM
I consider a place "authentic ethnic" IF I see people from that country of origin also sitting among the diners. If I don't see any faces who match that cuisine, I consider it "faux" cuisine that's being dished up according to American tastes. I have a friend from Rome who's owned an "Italian" place for years. But even he admitted that the food he serves he would never eat at home. In fact, he taught me how to cook the food of the Lazio region (just outside of Rome) and I came to appreciate the nuances of regional cooking from those experiences.

Miulang

Glen Miyashiro
March 29th, 2006, 07:28 AM
Does chili count as Mexican food? After reading Ian Lind's description of his prize-winning chili (http://www.ilind.net/images_2006/chili.html), I'm suddenly ono for some.

LikaNui
March 29th, 2006, 08:03 AM
I used to go to a restaurant that really did serve authentic Mexican food. Sadly, they didn't stay in business very long because most people are used to Americanized Mexican food and complained that the restaurant didn't know how to cook. Sheesh.
:(

Miulang
March 29th, 2006, 08:23 AM
Does chili count as Mexican food? After reading Ian Lind's description of his prize-winning chili (http://www.ilind.net/images_2006/chili.html), I'm suddenly ono for some.
According to this food article (http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Chili/ChiliHistory.htm), the origins of chili are probably NOT Mexican! My guess is it's a concoction dreamed up either by Texans or New Mexicans, because the cuisines of both states (regions) use lots of chili and chile peppers.

Miulang

MadAzza
March 29th, 2006, 01:04 PM
I love it when people demand "authentic Mexican food."

Here, have some corn tortillas banged out on a rock, with maybe a bit of chicken. That's it. No cheese, no guac, no rice, no lettuce, no sour cream, no beef, no chimichanga, no flour tortilla-wrapped burrito. Depending on how far back you want to go with the "authentic" label, of course. These days, a cheeseburger is "authentic Mexican food." They have cheeseburgers in Mexico, no?

AbsolutChaos
March 29th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Mexican restaurant on Kam Hwy in Wahiawa just over the bridge is junk. Too much chiles. Too hot to taste. I only saw non-Mexicans eating there when we went.

Y'all missed one of the best for they have closed. Los Tres Compadres was located in Wahiawa Shopping Center and had the best homestyle Mexican food I've tasted locally. They ran a buffet lunch and dinner everyday for around $8 as well as serving menu items. The owner rarely used chiles in his food and more than half his clientele were Mexican families, local and military. When our boyz got sent to Iraq, he lost most of his business and the locals just couldn't keep him afloat. Sure hope he opens up another shop. :(

I mourn the loss of Los Tres Compadres. Unlike you, though, I gotta have the spice and often added hot sauce to the food there.

Da Rolling Eye
March 29th, 2006, 04:35 PM
AC, I vaguely remember, but they had an alcove with shelves lined with different hot sauces from around the country. Right? If I'm on the right track, that collection was left by the previous occupant of that retail space. I think it was called Surf Taco or something. Even had surfer types working the counter. Yeah, they all had the same look. The streaky blonde hair, tanned skin looking to be like a raisin skin come 30 years, the broad shoulders narrow waists. The carefree style in how the greeted the customers. "Eh, howzit you guys. What'llyouhave?", while bobbing their heads and wearing a really goofy grin, albeit sincere. They never used "surfer talk" with the customers though, but heard them talk in the kitchen. You know, fersure, gnarly, shredded, dude, bitchen, etc. Very stereotypical. <LOL>

Oh, they served TexMex. Mostly tacos of course. Lots of combos including tacos. Mostly easy to make stuff like the enchiladas and burritos. Food wasn't bad and they even offered delivery. :)

At least at Los Tres, they gave you the option of heat. A lot of places don't. Even at La Familia, the owner gave me a sample of the green chile sauce that was going to be used in the chile verde. It was hot. If I wanted less spice, I was going to be outta luck.

kimo55
March 29th, 2006, 04:41 PM
those damned local casual island surfer types. they are destroying our society!

Miulang
March 29th, 2006, 06:00 PM
If you want "authentic" Mexican food, you need to refer to the following classic cookbooks on the subject:

"The Cuisines of Mexico (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/002-4634486-3553630?search-alias=aps&keywords=the%20cuisines%20of%20mexico)" and "The Essential Cuisines of Mexico (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0609603558/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-4634486-3553630#reader-page)" by Diana Kennedy, who is still considered the doyenne of Mexican cuisine, introduced readers to the nuances of regional Mexican cooking, which was a revelation to those who thought of chili and Taco Bell as Mexican standard comidas.

The current big guy on the authentic Mexican cuisine scene in the US is Rick Bayless, who co-authored the cookbook "Authentic Mexican (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688043941/sr=8-1/qid=1143694402/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4634486-3553630?%5Fencoding=UTF8)". If you click on the picture of the book cover, you get to preview the book, including some of the regional recipes.

All three of these are excellent reference books too, because you learn about how and why the regional cuisines evolved (based on political and geographical factors). The whole study of food anthropology is fascinating. Authentic Mexican food is definitely not all about chiles! (It is about masa, lard, and epazote, though).

Miulang

Glen Miyashiro
March 29th, 2006, 06:15 PM
I love it when people demand "authentic Mexican food."

Here, have some corn tortillas banged out on a rock, with maybe a bit of chicken. That's it. No cheese, no guac, no rice, no lettuce, no sour cream, no beef, no chimichanga, no flour tortilla-wrapped burrito. Depending on how far back you want to go with the "authentic" label, of course. These days, a cheeseburger is "authentic Mexican food." They have cheeseburgers in Mexico, no?Heh heh. Actually Maddie, not even the chicken. Chickens are Old World birds from Southeast Asia. Back in the day, all they had in Mexico were turkeys. And grasshoppers; they ate those too. :D

But didn't they have avocadoes? I think?

MadAzza
March 29th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Heh heh. Actually Maddie, not even the chicken. Chickens are Old World birds from Southeast Asia.

Yes, but my understanding is that chickens made it to what is now Mexico quite a long time ago. Last I checked, nobody was sure how they got there (but it's been years since I read anything about it, so maybe they figured it out).

So I included chicken, with the disclaimer "depending on how far back you go."

Dunno about the avocadoes, though.

Grasshoppers! I think I'll take the non-authentic Mexican food, please. Gimme chimichangas, flour tortillas, cheese and margaritas!

kimo55
March 29th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Many restaurants in Califirnia are owned and run by Mexicans who would cook incredible 'authentic mexican food" Tacos al carbon among other things.

fresh made corn tortillas
diced smallish cubes of steak.
Cilantro.
Diced onions.
a little salsa.
Cjorizo
Queso.

beans, rice.
but tastes prepped different from most mesxican restaurants.

when i was a newbie there, i asked them what kine food is this and they say it is REAL Mexican food. There were a few other authentic mexican eateries in town, in fact scattered through socal, of course and tacos al carbon and the rest was part and parcel of their fare.

Miulang
March 29th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Up here, many of the Mexican restaurants (the smaller, family owned ones) serve Oaxacan and Michoacan regional dishes, because the immigrants from those regions are the ones who settled up here. Wonder what region the Mexicans who serve authentic Mexican food in Honolulu came from originally?

Miulang

Da Rolling Eye
March 29th, 2006, 07:59 PM
Wonder what region the Mexicans who serve authentic Mexican food in Honolulu came from originally?
LA................................. :D

kimo55
March 29th, 2006, 08:00 PM
Nooo. they didn't come from Louisiana...


They came from all parts of south of the border. That's what Mama said...

Erika Engle
March 29th, 2006, 08:27 PM
A quote about Italian food, to illustrate a point.

Titled "Arrivederci, 'Italian' Food," from the April 2006 "Gourmet" magazine.

"Tell her," I said, "that I feel that now I have finally tasted Italy."
"Oh no," said Giorgio, turning to shake his finger at me. "This is not Italian food. This is the food of Campania."
"But Campania is part of Italy," I insisted.
"But in our country," he said, "there is not one kind of food. There are many. Everyone, everywhere, they eat different."
-- Ruth Reichl, Editor in Chief

There are different regions of Mexico, too. Americans, or immigrant-Americans, change authentic ethnic cuisine to allow for what was available/convenient in America.

I was not long out of high school when I ate at a then-new Mexican restaurant in Hilo named Reuben's. It was there that I had my very first taco made with SHREDDED BEEF, as opposed to ground beef -- which Mexicano Reuben told me was the way he grew up eating tacos.

My Sicilian brother-in-law, based on the tutelage of his even more Sicilian grandmother, makes his meatballs OVAL (and slightly flattened) -- NOT ROUND, as we do in the U.S. If you do the same, you'll find there's more surface for caramelization. (Prior to simmering them in or serving them with sauce.) Ono!

If you've watched Mario B., Giada D. or many of the Food Network chefs/cooks/etc., you KNOW that there's a difference between cuisine from Italy and "Italian-American" food. The same MUST, therefore, be true of cuisine from Mexico and "Mexican-American" food -- especially when you throw in the whole "Tex-Mex" and "Southwest" factors.

I'm not an expert in any type of cuisine, but I sure do love the learning process. I know a lot less than what there is to be known. Joy! I think I've just found my new signature.

Da Rolling Eye
March 30th, 2006, 07:04 AM
Nooo. they didn't come from Louisiana...They came from all parts of south of the border. That's what Mama said...
Los Angeles............. :p

I'm not an expert in any type of cuisine, but I sure do love the learning process. I know a lot less than what there is to be known. Joy! I think I've just found my new signature.
Probably the same for most of us. That's what makes food discussion fun, especially food in Hawaii. Barring any gastrointestinal problems ;) , we can still enjoy most of what Hawaii has to offer in moderation. :)

Erika Engle
March 30th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Probably the same for most of us. That's what makes food discussion fun, especially food in Hawaii. Barring any gastrointestinal problems ;) , we can still enjoy most of what Hawaii has to offer in moderation. :)

Aye, eye! True dat!

Linkmeister
April 2nd, 2006, 04:56 PM
Here's evidence that one can find a blog about anything:

The Great Taco Hunt (http://tacohunt.blogspot.com/)

In which the author recounts his/her search for good tacos in Los Angeles.

For all you Angelenos, there's a list of restaurants on the blog's sidebar.

hawaiian_pride
June 27th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Honestly there was one in wahiawa which I think was pretty good. It was located where the foodland supermarket is in wahiawa, I believe it was California Ave. It was called Los Tres Compadres. Not really sure what happened.... but one day they were gone... Yeah I no longer live in the islands i live in great northwest with alot of authentic mexican food.

AbsolutChaos
June 27th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Honestly there was one in wahiawa which I think was pretty good. It was located where the foodland supermarket is in wahiawa, I believe it was California Ave. It was called Los Tres Compadres. Not really sure what happened.... but one day they were gone... Yeah I no longer live in the islands i live in great northwest with alot of authentic mexican food.


I miss Los Tres Compadres...the owner had to close up shop because he lost too many military customers due to them being shipped out, and he also said he couldn't afford the rents in Honolulu in order to move the restaurant.

hawaiian_pride
June 27th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Yeah it's too bad that he had to close.. They were pretty good... but anyway thanks for the reply...I lived in mililani so not to far from there.. His carne Asada was pretty good too!!!

anapuni808
June 27th, 2006, 07:25 PM
During the few years I lived in So. Calif., I was privileged to have many neighbors who were "newcomers" from south of the border - didn't question their status ;). But, I also NEVER said no to an invitation to eat at their house. As the only "Norte Americano" in the building, I used to tutor in English and help with understaning their paperwork. My pay was free language lessons and lots of free food! We were all mostly without any extra $$$ so the trading worked out fine. I also fondly remember the little tortilla lady that used to come around with her shopping cart & cooler, selling the best tortillas I've ever had! Most were from areas close to the Calif./Mexico border so that was the primary type of food served - from their home states in Mexico. But, I've also had food from Yucatan and Vera Cruz style - they are all different due to the ingredients they can find.

The only "authentic" food I won't eat is menudo - I've never had a hangover that was bad enough to convince me to eat this famous remedy!

I guess what I'm trying to say is: my feeling is that if its cooked by the folks who grew up eating the food & learning the proper preparation, then I consider it authentic. I also agree with Miulang - another good sign is if other Mexicans eat in the restaurant, thats a pretty good sign of "authenticity"

Now I'm hungry!

MixedPlateBroker
November 26th, 2007, 08:33 PM
Los Tres was our favorite, too. So sad. We try to console ourselves with the carne asada burritos from Baja Taco (http://www.kaimukihawaii.com/businesses/current/905.html) (corner of St. Louis and Waialae), menudo from El Burrito (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&q=%22el+burrito%22&near=Honolulu,+HI+96814&fb=1&view=text&latlng=21294372,-157846486,13198225518139875428#) and ceviche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche) from Quintero's (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&view=text&q=quintero&near=Honolulu,+HI+96814&ie=UTF8&hl=en&latlng=21300726,-157843666,3462840975185794352&ei=q8dLR6qyB5OMiAPn85i3Cg&sig2=OqGKOX9zUoLPFsiDLw7Oxg&cd=1#).

Not in one day, of course.:p

alohacandy
November 27th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Los Tres was our favorite, too. So sad. We try to console ourselves with the carne asada burritos from Baja Taco (http://www.kaimukihawaii.com/businesses/current/905.html) (corner of St. Louis and Waialae), menudo from El Burrito (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&q=%22el+burrito%22&near=Honolulu,+HI+96814&fb=1&view=text&latlng=21294372,-157846486,13198225518139875428#) and ceviche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche) from Quintero's (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&view=text&q=quintero&near=Honolulu,+HI+96814&ie=UTF8&hl=en&latlng=21300726,-157843666,3462840975185794352&ei=q8dLR6qyB5OMiAPn85i3Cg&sig2=OqGKOX9zUoLPFsiDLw7Oxg&cd=1#).

Not in one day, of course.:p

The ceviche from Los Quinteros in Wahiawa won first place in the food contest held at the Jawaiian BBQ Cookoff a few weeks ago....not sure how ceviche counts as Jawaiian, but it sure was gooooooooooooooood!! :D

anapuni808
November 27th, 2007, 09:58 PM
"Just Tacos" has opened a full service restaurant in Mililani at the shopping center on Meheula Parkway. It is in the same area as the movie theaters. We went there several weeks ago & the food is wonderful! Plus, they have 79 different kinds of tequila. They only serve Mexican beers & Tequilas. I believe they also have music on Friday nites - at least I've heard it's pretty much a party scene!

They are expanding and will soon have 2 new locations. Quite a move up from the small taco place in the Remington College Building downtown. But = the food is still "authentic" and delicious!!!!

alohacandy
November 27th, 2007, 10:55 PM
The ceviche from Los Quinteros in Wahiawa won first place in the food contest held at the Jawaiian BBQ Cookoff a few weeks ago....not sure how ceviche counts as Jawaiian, but it sure was gooooooooooooooood!! :D


Ooops...I meant El Palenque in Wahiawa....

alohacandy
November 27th, 2007, 10:56 PM
The ceviche from Los Quinteros in Wahiawa won first place in the food contest held at the Jawaiian BBQ Cookoff a few weeks ago....not sure how ceviche counts as Jawaiian, but it sure was gooooooooooooooood!! :D


"Just Tacos" has opened a full service restaurant in Mililani at the shopping center on Meheula Parkway. It is in the same area as the movie theaters. We went there several weeks ago & the food is wonderful! Plus, they have 79 different kinds of tequila. They only serve Mexican beers & Tequilas. I believe they also have music on Friday nites - at least I've heard it's pretty much a party scene!

They are expanding and will soon have 2 new locations. Quite a move up from the small taco place in the Remington College Building downtown. But = the food is still "authentic" and delicious!!!!

Just Tacos is also opening up near Walmart in Pearl City. (or maybe has already opened...not sure)

AbsolutChaos
November 28th, 2007, 08:36 AM
I kinda like Just Tacos & More in Waianae. The owner is from Mexico City and seemed really nice. Liked the green sauce. I haven't had a chance to try the tamarind juice drink they had there yet--it looked homemade.

cezanne
August 3rd, 2008, 08:32 AM
The wife and I tried El Mariacchi (sp?) in Kaneohe after I read a recent rave by one of the posters here. Little hole in the wall place. Seats 25-30 and we were lucky to get a table just as we signed the waitlist.

My wife ordered her standard 3 selection combo I got a huge piece of seared ono in garlic butter sauce. I was given the choice of black beans or refried. I chose black and I must say that I don't like black beans anymore. Next time I'm gonna ask to sub the beans for more rice.

The service was good. I like the overall casual ambience. Took home plenty extra.

LikaNui
August 3rd, 2008, 09:12 AM
I've eaten at El Mariachi several times and have always enjoyed it. Nothing spectacular, just good and reliable. The service has always been above average.
A few months ago someone opened a much "fancier" Mexican place just about two blocks away, on Kahuhipa Street, but it closed after two months. I tried it once. Ick. Hideously overpriced for bad food, and the service was horrible. Glad they're gone.
Long live El Mariachi!

leashlaws
August 3rd, 2008, 11:32 AM
I recall that short lived place - I didn't eat there i just remember it. I hardly
ever venture down Kahuhipa St. however I have the jitters about it.....On my
40th birthday I was at the light where Nanko is in the left turn lane on a
yellow light. This idiot in a huge delivery truck decided to go against the light
and skidded 33 feet into the back of my car. Thanks goodness it was my MIL's
rental Lumina, it was completely totaled from the back even popping the
back doors open. The nice people at the Nissan dealer (when it was there) came and helped me until the ambulance came.

I am wishing I was going to eat at El Mariachi today! However we have some kalua pork from KCC and are going to have that with collard greens for lunch with a nice Pinot Grigio then a pinot noir while we watch "Sideways" which I
have never seen but am going to write about Frank Ostini owner of the Hitching Post and need to do my homework!

Why did you not like the black beans? Were they not prepared well? The
garlic butter sounds good with the fish! I've found the do seafood very well.

cezanne
August 3rd, 2008, 07:58 PM
I've eaten at El Mariachi several times and have always enjoyed it. Nothing spectacular, just good and reliable. The service has always been above average.
A few months ago someone opened a much "fancier" Mexican place just about two blocks away, on Kahuhipa Street, but it closed after two months. I tried it once. Ick. Hideously overpriced for bad food, and the service was horrible. Glad they're gone.
Long live El Mariachi!

Is that the one by Bob Barrs Muffler? The first one after Bob closed the BBQ was pretty good, Mexico Lindo I think was the name. When they closed (this was a couple of years ago) because I think of a rent hike... it never was the same. Now it looks like Barr is opening another southwestern themed restaurant.

cezanne
August 3rd, 2008, 08:05 PM
Why did you not like the black beans? Were they not prepared well? The
garlic butter sounds good with the fish! I've found the do seafood very well.

Nah I just thought it would be something tastier. It was like it was just boiled beans, perhaps that's what "authentic" is. Nonetheless, that's not going to stop me from going there again. The food was decent and the service was better than I would settle for... and for me great customer service goes a long way.

I think I'm gonna try another seafood dish and maybe the ceviche... yeah I like fish.

alohacandy
August 3rd, 2008, 08:41 PM
Ohhhhhhh...I just LOVE El Mariachi...we go there several times a month, but I usually order the cheese enchilada plate. Of course, none are as good as my mom's...but until I get to see her again, I have to "settle" for these. :)

leashlaws
August 4th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Nah I just thought it would be something tastier. It was like it was just boiled beans, perhaps that's what "authentic" is. Nonetheless, that's not going to stop me from going there again. The food was decent and the service was better than I would settle for... and for me great customer service goes a long way.

I think I'm gonna try another seafood dish and maybe the ceviche... yeah I like fish.

It sounds like a boring prep for the beans. I have seen them elsewhere with other things added like bell peppers and onions to enhance the flavor. I've also seen them made similar to refried beans.

You're right about service when it's great going a long way! I love a good ceviche too.

kani-lehua
August 20th, 2008, 04:33 PM
so we went to el maricahi today for lunch and shared the carnitas and chicken fajita burrito. tasty and even better with their freshly made habanero hot sauce. mm mm good. wish we had some additional wheelchairs to roll us out of there (mom's in one already) as we were just stuffed to the gills. service was good, but the parking is limited especially during lunchtime.

and, now i know why parents should limit their children's intake of sugar. i haven't had a soda in several years now. but, had an upset stomach and thought that a sprite would help to settle it. talk about a sugar rush and high--boy did i feel funky.

all in all a good experience. the food was way better imo than mexico lindo in kailua. cisco's is really great if you want quantitiy and good quality. love their fajitas.

localmoco
August 20th, 2008, 05:07 PM
Los Chaparros on Beretania is mostly authentic Mexican. They have some Tex-Mex items as well. The owner/chef/waiter is also from Mexico City.

kani-lehua
August 20th, 2008, 05:14 PM
i'm thinking that several of the people working/cooking at el mariachi were hispanic as they were speaking spanish. i dunno if they were mexicans. but, the food was good. as for authenticity, again, i dunno.

alohacandy
August 20th, 2008, 11:11 PM
i'm thinking that several of the people working/cooking at el mariachi were hispanic as they were speaking spanish. i dunno if they were mexicans. but, the food was good. as for authenticity, again, i dunno.

Yes, several of the people that work there are from Mexico.

cynsaligia
July 17th, 2009, 05:20 PM
bumping this thread due to the following, from introductions thread...


if you're still looking for Mexican restaurants, try Just Tacos Grill & Bar in Mililani. They are a full restaurant, great food and they have over 130 different tequilas at the bar! I think the owners came originally from Guadalajara.


I'm sure once we get there(hopefully) we will be having withdrawals, so the search will be on. 130 Tequilas, definitely want to try them all...
Thank you,

a friend of mine who's a regular at just tacos mililani says the owner now does special tequila and food pairings for a special price if you can guarantee at least five people in your party. you need to give some amount of notice. during the one that my friend went to, the cost was either $50 or $75, with five courses of food/drink, and all the tequilas were premium quality, including bottles that normally cost $50+ and are hard to find.

don't hold me to the figures i quote bcs this was told to me on the 4th of july and i was already slightly lifted.

anapuni808
July 17th, 2009, 06:14 PM
at one point, the owner was Jose Cuervo's top NATIONAL sales spot! He's got some bottles that nobody else has and he has many that are very limited bottles. He was in our office the other day & talking about some expansions coming up. I've only been to Mililani place one time - but eat their food at least once a week downtown at my building. I'm so lucky! :D