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    ...stumbled across this web site wherein they basically created a whole product line based on the image of the Sacred religious revered Gods of Hawaii. (ki'i akua pictures taken at Pu'uhonua o Honaunau, the God images at the one of Hawaii's reverential sites.)

    http://www.offduty-nolimits.com/catalog.php?cat=tshirts

    and emailed them, this:

    You are using sacred Hawaiian Gods for commercial purposes. This trivialization of revered religious icons of a Polynesian culture, one that, by the hands of foreigners, has suffered too much disrespect and cultural intellectual property rights appropriation for too long. This is never justified. You are continuing this pernicious trend and it is reprehensible.


    What if... you had this instead, on your
    "about us" :
    http://www.offduty-nolimits.com/aboutus.php

    page, the following?

    The Golf Godz began as a resort lifestyle t-shirt company. We sell to stores from Tortola to the Vatican to Salt lake City Utah, (the tabernacle).
    One afternoon during an Off*Duty board meeting at the beach while killing black cats, we discussed the idea of jesus and pope-heads on shirts. Saint-heads we think are hip and have the ability to portray a definite ATTITUDE! Originally we thought that we would concentrate on our pious bible belt markets for this concept. Jim, our artist, came up with some great drawings and as soon as I saw the religious figures (the jesus holding a golf bag, the virgin mary whackin an angel with a golf club, jesus crucified on a flagstick...) I said, "Stick a tee in his ear and 2 golf balls in that guy's pockets!" From there a line of 11 christian religious guys was developed to playfully "roast in hell" ourselves as golfers.
    *
    I hope that you find these "one liners" sacriligeously, disrespectfully humorous and can relate to the "Attitude of The Golf Godz". (If so, I pity you. But send us money anyway. If yer dimwitted enough to exhibit such thoughtlessness toward a culture other than your own, you should be parted from your money.)
    *
    Thank you for taking time to view our website. Come join us at the beach when you feel ethnocentric—but for now let us send you, or perhaps more importantly your Sandbagger friends or even still, enemies, a shirt, cap, nun's habit or towel. It may just become a favorite!
    *
    Tee it Up, genuflect and keep it in the short grass and the long pews!
    *
    Moony Jones
    TGIF



    **************

    anyone who feels this, to any degree, is not pono, email them and tellem;
    no shame, no shame!
    Last edited by kimo55; February 10, 2005, 09:02 AM.

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    Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

    Go get 'em, Kimo!

    Miulang
    "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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    • #3
      Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

      Originally posted by kimo55
      anyone who feels this, to any degree, is not pono, email them and tellem;
      no shame, no shame!
      Hmmmmm, I will! Thanks for letting us know!

      Sent this:

      Shame on you and your company! Your so called "TIKI" is respected by Hawaiians. You lucky you not in Hawai'i nei...THE GODS would take you in your sleep, throw you into the volcano to Pele where she would burn your okoles, excuse me, whole bodies! POOF BE GONE!

      Lynn Vasquez
      momthreesoldeirs@msn.com
      Last edited by 1stwahine; February 10, 2005, 09:17 AM.
      Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
      Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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      • #4
        Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

        Originally posted by Miulang
        Go get 'em, Kimo!

        Miulang

        jez try fo hold me back!


        try wait; you goin see much more of this re-appropriation of Hawaiian cultural icons...
        stay tuned.

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        • #5
          Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

          You know, I've been reading recently about controversies surrounding the copyright of objects or landmarks in the public space. Two prominent examples making the rounds right now are the Eiffel Tower at night and Millenium Park in Chicago.

          In those two examples, the copyright seems ridiculous, but I'm wondering if an option exists to stop stuff like the use of Pu'uhonua o Honaunau by speaking a language businesses understand: infringement and lawsuits. If the caretakers of the site, or the DHHL, or some other big, scary agency asserted copyright ownership over the commercial use of images of the statues or other Hawaiian icons, they could then have a good tool to stop people from putting them on T-shirts or using them as corporate logos or something.

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          • #6
            Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

            Originally posted by pzarquon
            I'm wondering if an option exists to stop stuff like the use of Pu'uhonua o Honaunau by speaking a language businesses understand: infringement and lawsuits.

            Possibly the creator of the artwork, the carver, can assert his ownership of the actual particular image, also.

            Just one of the mmmmaaaannnnyyy examples I have been collecting:
            Halrley davidson shop alamoana, has shirts with a photo of a large Ku kalai. This is a photo taken at da PCC. I know of the original carver. his style is very distinctive.
            It is just not right to infringe on both counts:
            artist's work and
            trivialisation of sacred religious icons, numerous precedents notwithstanding.

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            • #7
              Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

              I dunno. If people started getting riled up about all the sacrilegious things in the world, then I wouldn't be able to buy a Jesus Nodder for my car's dashboard.

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              • #8
                Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                Originally posted by Glen Miyashiro
                I dunno. If people started getting riled up about all the sacrilegious things in the world, then I wouldn't be able to buy a Jesus Nodder for my car's dashboard.
                Glenn, you are kidding about having a Jesus Nodder?
                Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                • #9
                  Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                  Originally posted by Glen Miyashiro
                  I dunno. If people started getting riled up about all the sacrilegious things in the world, then I wouldn't be able to buy a Jesus Nodder for my car's dashboard.

                  yes. we alllllll know of this exact citation as a frequent rebuttal to the 'stop using "tikis" stance'.
                  Ever since archie came out with these "christian products".
                  This is yer typical example we see that shows contemporary society believes "nothing is sacred. Everything is fair game."

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                  • #10
                    Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                    If you mean, do I have one now? No. But it's very tempting.

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                    • #11
                      Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                      Originally posted by kimo55
                      This is yer typical example we see that shows contemporary society believes "nothing is sacred. Everything is fair game."
                      It is. Isn't it?

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                      • #12
                        Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                        Originally posted by Glen Miyashiro
                        If you mean, do I have one now? No. But it's very tempting.
                        THANK YOU GLENN...MAY GOD BLESS YOU 10 FOLD TODAY! YOU TO BRO KIMO! You go gettum' I'll back you up anytime for the AINA and GOD!
                        Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                        Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                        • #13
                          Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                          Originally posted by Glen Miyashiro
                          "Everything is fair game."

                          It is. Isn't it?
                          i just KNOW yer jokin'.
                          But I must assert; it is time to ho'oponopono and always maka'ala.
                          Last edited by kimo55; February 10, 2005, 09:35 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                            Originally posted by kimo55
                            ...

                            anyone who feels this, to any degree, is not pono, email them and tellem;
                            no shame, no shame!
                            So Bruddah Kimo, I wen go email dose buggahs and told 'em da tiki has no correlation wit da game of golf. I told 'em hemo da tiki and go put one golf cart or one martini glass or one bottle of beer ova dere. Those things more relevant to golf than ke Akua!

                            Miulang
                            "Americans believe in three freedoms. Freedom of speech; freedom of religion; and the freedom to deny the other two to folks they don`t like.” --Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              Re: More sacrilegious commercialisation of Hawaiian culture...

                              Originally posted by kimo55
                              i just KNOW yer jokin'.
                              But I must assert; it is time to ho'oponopono and always maka'ala.
                              I'm NOT! There are certain things I hold very dear and GOD and the AINA is at the top! have a great day BRO KIMO! I'm going to Hawaii Stories...will check in and out.
                              Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                              Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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