MAUI'S ONLINE POLL re: Gated Communities legislation
Legislation is being proposed on both Kauai and the Big Island to ban gated communities from all future residential developments. Would you favor such a ban in Maui County?
As of the time of this post: Yes 44.9 % ; No 50.8 % ; Don't know 4.3 %
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Some comments on the poll recorded @ mauinews.com :
3/31/2005 1:26:37 PM from IP# 68.232.255.52
Let them live behind bars and leave the rest of us alone.
3/31/2005 1:34:08 PM from IP# 70.93.54.14
ITS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO PEOPLE WHO CANT EVEN AFFORD TO BUY MILK FOR THEIR CHILDREN...WE KNOW THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR RULES, BUT, DONT SHOVE IT IN OUR FACES.
3/31/2005 2:24:47 PM from IP# 207.175.138.100
unless we can control the ice induced crime people deserve the right to protect their property
3/31/2005 6:17:30 PM from IP# 168.215.239.72
Gated communities present challenges to emergency responders
3/31/2005 6:36:11 PM from IP# 165.248.247.133
Oh yes! Maui is getting too overcrowded, we cannot make room or space for new people. Go invest in somewhere else!! Thank you for visiting though!
3/31/2005 8:29:29 PM from IP# 205.188.117.9
Gated communities are being promulgated by mainlanders who are so conceited that they feel they need to be "protected" ...protected from what? These would be gated communities impede the natural surroundings and are an insult to the indigenous people who constitute the real soul of the islands, not these uppety mainlanders who really believe they are better than you and I just because they have a few more dollarsin their pockets, which are made of plastic.
3/31/2005 8:32:03 PM from IP# 198.94.221.66
A dangerous precedent. Be careful what you wish for.
3/31/2005 8:59:18 PM from IP# 64.203.25.232
Sad especially near beaches where quick access would be denied
3/31/2005 9:25:33 PM from IP# 64.65.99.134
gated communities further isolate working class residents and the wealthy estate owner who treat everyone like slaves. If these rich people want to live so seperately from the local comunity they should stay on the mainland
3/31/2005 11:29:32 PM from IP# 209.240.205.62
THey should be allowed to move to a ZOO if they want a gated community. Elsewhere, it should not be permittedm as we live on a very limited Aina and should be accessible to all.
4/1/2005 12:23:26 AM from IP# 66.91.1.163
Why should the rest of us care if they want to close themselves in? Lots of people have gates on their entrances. what is the difference if it is a single home or a whole area?
4/1/2005 11:07:57 AM from IP# 216.194.144.254
This is just another way for the "Haves" keeping their property, beach access, and other areas, off-limits to the "HAVE NOTS"
4/1/2005 2:59:00 PM from IP# 205.188.116.71
If crime was adequately prevented in Maui there would be no need for gated communities.
4/1/2005 3:27:59 PM from IP# 4.43.155.178
waste of money,use it for school kids
4/1/2005 6:04:03 PM from IP# 63.199.70.18
safety comes first!!!!!!!!
4/1/2005 6:21:32 PM from IP# 12.42.50.51
I believe gated communities separate the island residents. Mostly created by newcomers to our islands that moved here because of the island people and lifestyle and who now want the same ethnic separations from where they came from.
4/1/2005 7:41:18 PM from IP# 64.75.219.41
What a stupid idea. The mayor of Kauai and the big island should be working with the private sector to reduce the gap between those that have and those that have not instead of worrying about gates on property. If the politicians in Maui County seriously consider this issue it should tell you where their priorities are. Instead of laws regulating gates how about more housing and a better economy supporting better jobs? Most of the people decrying the gate issue are those who came here from somewhere else who now want paradise to be what it is they want it to be and forget about those who were here first needing a home and a better job. Change will come with our without you so deal with it constructively and make Maui a better place and forget about the political minutae of gates.
4/2/2005 11:00:41 AM from IP# 214.4.3.75
if the yes voters had their homes broken into, they would change their minds. besides, that ban would be unconstitutional. the county would end up paying in court. the state refuses to protects us from criminal, we must do it ourselves.
4/2/2005 12:11:37 PM from IP# 64.75.149.5
If we ever have a severe storm, a tsunami, an enemy attack with nuclear weapoms, gates and fences would increase the deaths and suffering. We are in this world as brothers not enemies.
4/2/2005 2:14:51 PM from IP# 24.113.62.144
Sept 11, 2001 has changed the face of personal security. If gated communities are done with esthetics to match the local environment, it could be an asset to the local community.
4/2/2005 4:09:53 PM from IP# 24.161.128.103
Since when do we have a right to impose such restrictions on private property?
4/2/2005 4:47:43 PM from IP# 207.88.213.20
"wealthy estate owners who treat everyone like slaves". We are all slaves in one way or another. In our minds we are slaves. Think about it.
4/2/2005 5:00:17 PM from IP# 4.156.105.206
gates are not Hawaii!
4/2/2005 7:22:24 PM from IP# 4.26.240.185
Gated communities have private roads so they will be required to maintain them, not the county.
4/3/2005 12:24:13 AM from IP# 66.91.179.219
Homeowners should make the choice and not the government. This idea sounds like socialism.
4/3/2005 4:03:25 PM from IP# 63.16.57.48
gated communities should be welcomed in Hawaii.
4/3/2005 7:57:55 PM from IP# 64.128.3.1
Some people need to live in a gated community because of the crime rate. Clean up the crime, both on the street and in the government, and maybe people will feel secure enough to have no need for gated communities.
4/3/2005 8:34:57 PM from IP# 199.62.8.252
With the rise of theft, burglaries and unlawful entries, private citizens are entitled to live in gated communities where they can secure their real estate property. I strongly oppose a legislation to ban gated communities. I value privacy and security in these times.
4/3/2005 11:09:28 PM from IP# 208.54.15.129
To live in a gated community should be allowed if one chooses to do so
4/4/2005 3:45:00 AM from IP# 155.48.144.11
I go to school in boston, and places are not even gated, why? because they are a "communities." if you need a gate to prevent the locals from you, stay there where you are from!
4/4/2005 9:31:58 AM from IP# 66.190.66.127
This imposes too much government control over private property. beach acess must be provided however.
4/4/2005 2:24:33 PM from IP# 140.31.201.142
Once again, this is government intrusion. For those who dont like gated communities should just not live in one. People who like them should live in them. Why is it necessary for those who dont live in a gated community feel as though they deserve access to the community which they dont live. On top of that, with the increase in crime on Maui I wish I could afford to live in a gated community. When I drive around Papa Avenue I see MANY "gated" houses. I think the same reason they gate their houses is the same reason people want to live in gated communities.
4/4/2005 4:59:50 PM from IP# 205.166.249.142
NO MORE GATED COMMUNITIES ON MAUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4/4/2005 6:27:05 PM from IP# 64.12.117.9
Lets keep them locked.
4/4/2005 8:11:46 PM from IP# 66.159.217.36
MAUI IS NO PLACE PLACE FOR THE RICH ELITISTS. IF THEY ARE AFRAID THEN THEY SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE.
4/4/2005 10:00:00 PM from IP# 4.30.90.183
In an ideal world, it would be nice to live without fences. Unfortunately, the increasing crime and drug problems on this island necessitate such things as gated communities, neighborhood watch programs and other security measures to protect our homes and loved ones.
4/5/2005 3:11:18 PM from IP# 4.43.152.79
Distinctions should be made as to what such gates are for: whether they are to exclude just motored vehicles of non-residents, or, also to exclude non-resident pedestrian and bicycle traffic. The former should absolutely be allowed to be excluded from a community; not so, necessarily, the latter.
Legislation is being proposed on both Kauai and the Big Island to ban gated communities from all future residential developments. Would you favor such a ban in Maui County?
As of the time of this post: Yes 44.9 % ; No 50.8 % ; Don't know 4.3 %
******
Some comments on the poll recorded @ mauinews.com :
3/31/2005 1:26:37 PM from IP# 68.232.255.52
Let them live behind bars and leave the rest of us alone.
3/31/2005 1:34:08 PM from IP# 70.93.54.14
ITS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO PEOPLE WHO CANT EVEN AFFORD TO BUY MILK FOR THEIR CHILDREN...WE KNOW THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR RULES, BUT, DONT SHOVE IT IN OUR FACES.
3/31/2005 2:24:47 PM from IP# 207.175.138.100
unless we can control the ice induced crime people deserve the right to protect their property
3/31/2005 6:17:30 PM from IP# 168.215.239.72
Gated communities present challenges to emergency responders
3/31/2005 6:36:11 PM from IP# 165.248.247.133
Oh yes! Maui is getting too overcrowded, we cannot make room or space for new people. Go invest in somewhere else!! Thank you for visiting though!
3/31/2005 8:29:29 PM from IP# 205.188.117.9
Gated communities are being promulgated by mainlanders who are so conceited that they feel they need to be "protected" ...protected from what? These would be gated communities impede the natural surroundings and are an insult to the indigenous people who constitute the real soul of the islands, not these uppety mainlanders who really believe they are better than you and I just because they have a few more dollarsin their pockets, which are made of plastic.
3/31/2005 8:32:03 PM from IP# 198.94.221.66
A dangerous precedent. Be careful what you wish for.
3/31/2005 8:59:18 PM from IP# 64.203.25.232
Sad especially near beaches where quick access would be denied
3/31/2005 9:25:33 PM from IP# 64.65.99.134
gated communities further isolate working class residents and the wealthy estate owner who treat everyone like slaves. If these rich people want to live so seperately from the local comunity they should stay on the mainland
3/31/2005 11:29:32 PM from IP# 209.240.205.62
THey should be allowed to move to a ZOO if they want a gated community. Elsewhere, it should not be permittedm as we live on a very limited Aina and should be accessible to all.
4/1/2005 12:23:26 AM from IP# 66.91.1.163
Why should the rest of us care if they want to close themselves in? Lots of people have gates on their entrances. what is the difference if it is a single home or a whole area?
4/1/2005 11:07:57 AM from IP# 216.194.144.254
This is just another way for the "Haves" keeping their property, beach access, and other areas, off-limits to the "HAVE NOTS"
4/1/2005 2:59:00 PM from IP# 205.188.116.71
If crime was adequately prevented in Maui there would be no need for gated communities.
4/1/2005 3:27:59 PM from IP# 4.43.155.178
waste of money,use it for school kids
4/1/2005 6:04:03 PM from IP# 63.199.70.18
safety comes first!!!!!!!!
4/1/2005 6:21:32 PM from IP# 12.42.50.51
I believe gated communities separate the island residents. Mostly created by newcomers to our islands that moved here because of the island people and lifestyle and who now want the same ethnic separations from where they came from.
4/1/2005 7:41:18 PM from IP# 64.75.219.41
What a stupid idea. The mayor of Kauai and the big island should be working with the private sector to reduce the gap between those that have and those that have not instead of worrying about gates on property. If the politicians in Maui County seriously consider this issue it should tell you where their priorities are. Instead of laws regulating gates how about more housing and a better economy supporting better jobs? Most of the people decrying the gate issue are those who came here from somewhere else who now want paradise to be what it is they want it to be and forget about those who were here first needing a home and a better job. Change will come with our without you so deal with it constructively and make Maui a better place and forget about the political minutae of gates.
4/2/2005 11:00:41 AM from IP# 214.4.3.75
if the yes voters had their homes broken into, they would change their minds. besides, that ban would be unconstitutional. the county would end up paying in court. the state refuses to protects us from criminal, we must do it ourselves.
4/2/2005 12:11:37 PM from IP# 64.75.149.5
If we ever have a severe storm, a tsunami, an enemy attack with nuclear weapoms, gates and fences would increase the deaths and suffering. We are in this world as brothers not enemies.
4/2/2005 2:14:51 PM from IP# 24.113.62.144
Sept 11, 2001 has changed the face of personal security. If gated communities are done with esthetics to match the local environment, it could be an asset to the local community.
4/2/2005 4:09:53 PM from IP# 24.161.128.103
Since when do we have a right to impose such restrictions on private property?
4/2/2005 4:47:43 PM from IP# 207.88.213.20
"wealthy estate owners who treat everyone like slaves". We are all slaves in one way or another. In our minds we are slaves. Think about it.
4/2/2005 5:00:17 PM from IP# 4.156.105.206
gates are not Hawaii!
4/2/2005 7:22:24 PM from IP# 4.26.240.185
Gated communities have private roads so they will be required to maintain them, not the county.
4/3/2005 12:24:13 AM from IP# 66.91.179.219
Homeowners should make the choice and not the government. This idea sounds like socialism.
4/3/2005 4:03:25 PM from IP# 63.16.57.48
gated communities should be welcomed in Hawaii.
4/3/2005 7:57:55 PM from IP# 64.128.3.1
Some people need to live in a gated community because of the crime rate. Clean up the crime, both on the street and in the government, and maybe people will feel secure enough to have no need for gated communities.
4/3/2005 8:34:57 PM from IP# 199.62.8.252
With the rise of theft, burglaries and unlawful entries, private citizens are entitled to live in gated communities where they can secure their real estate property. I strongly oppose a legislation to ban gated communities. I value privacy and security in these times.
4/3/2005 11:09:28 PM from IP# 208.54.15.129
To live in a gated community should be allowed if one chooses to do so
4/4/2005 3:45:00 AM from IP# 155.48.144.11
I go to school in boston, and places are not even gated, why? because they are a "communities." if you need a gate to prevent the locals from you, stay there where you are from!
4/4/2005 9:31:58 AM from IP# 66.190.66.127
This imposes too much government control over private property. beach acess must be provided however.
4/4/2005 2:24:33 PM from IP# 140.31.201.142
Once again, this is government intrusion. For those who dont like gated communities should just not live in one. People who like them should live in them. Why is it necessary for those who dont live in a gated community feel as though they deserve access to the community which they dont live. On top of that, with the increase in crime on Maui I wish I could afford to live in a gated community. When I drive around Papa Avenue I see MANY "gated" houses. I think the same reason they gate their houses is the same reason people want to live in gated communities.
4/4/2005 4:59:50 PM from IP# 205.166.249.142
NO MORE GATED COMMUNITIES ON MAUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4/4/2005 6:27:05 PM from IP# 64.12.117.9
Lets keep them locked.
4/4/2005 8:11:46 PM from IP# 66.159.217.36
MAUI IS NO PLACE PLACE FOR THE RICH ELITISTS. IF THEY ARE AFRAID THEN THEY SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE.
4/4/2005 10:00:00 PM from IP# 4.30.90.183
In an ideal world, it would be nice to live without fences. Unfortunately, the increasing crime and drug problems on this island necessitate such things as gated communities, neighborhood watch programs and other security measures to protect our homes and loved ones.
4/5/2005 3:11:18 PM from IP# 4.43.152.79
Distinctions should be made as to what such gates are for: whether they are to exclude just motored vehicles of non-residents, or, also to exclude non-resident pedestrian and bicycle traffic. The former should absolutely be allowed to be excluded from a community; not so, necessarily, the latter.
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