Maybe I oughta wait about 2 and a half months or so... but Scrivener's current post reminds me of a point that may possibly, should be posed... Here is the quote just noticed that sparked the subject in my mind:
"mel and Surfingfarmboy correctly identified this as the 9/11 memorial on the front lawn of Honolulu Hale at the corner of Punchbowl and King. Surfingfarmboy says he thinks it's one of the first permanent 9/11 memorials in the country, if not the first."
I dunno;
"One of the first."
How can anyone tell?
I would say a vast majority of the memorials we may hear about, (see below) popped up damn near the same time. How can we tell exactly when any of these were the first? Does it matter?! I submit to you, it matters only that we remember "the fallen" and only that.
I would be perfectly content to assume they are all, about the same age.
But most importantly, I believe a memorial for a tragedy of this magnitude and its memory should never be sullied by any hint of a competition of what was or is the biggest memorial. The first memorial. The grandest memorial. The most expensive memorial. The most appropriate memorial. The memorial containing the most shrapnel from ground zero.
Some things such as this should never enter in the same level of conversation as "well, we had the first one. We got da biggest one!"
This is not at all the spirit in which this should be referred or thought of.
...and herewith; some other memorials if yer at all interested...
A sculpture at Los Angeles airport Theme Building, entitled "Recovering Equilibrium" has been dedicated to the heroes and dead of 9/11. It is shaped like a compass, and features words and phrases that reflect national perceptions, rights and ideals.
Also in Los Angeles, a memorial at the city's Fire Department Training Center includes a 23-foot steel column from the lobby of the World Trade Center. The memorial is dedicated to the 343 New York City firefighters who died.
In Malibu, California, a memorial garden at Pepperdine University is dedicated to Flight 93 passenger, Thomas E. Burnett Jr.
A school in San Jose, California was named in honor of Captain Jason Dahl, one of the pilots on United Flight 93. Dahl grew up in San Jose.
A baseball field in Newark, Delaware was dedicated and named after baseball fan Matthew Flocco, age 21, one of 125 people killed inside the Pentagon.
In Fort Pierce, Florida, residents honored the heroes and dead of 9/11 with a life-size statue of CeeCee Lyles, a flight attendant on board United Airlines flight 93 which crashed in Pennsylvania.
In Burlington, Massachusetts, residents dedicated a brick memorial to three men with ties to the Boston suburb who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11 when it struck the World Trade Center. A plaque on the memorial reads: "Always flying high. September 11, 2001. Never to be Forgotten."
Massachusetts Port Authority plans to plant a grove of trees in Boston, one for each victim on the two hijacked planes that took off from Logan Airport.
A thirty-three acre farmland memorial in Massachusetts honors John Ogonowski, captain of American Airlines Flight 11, a fourth-generation farmer.
In Cranbury, New Jersey, the U. S. Postal Service named the local post office in honor of former resident Todd Beamer, the Flight 93 passenger whose phrase, "Let's roll," became a rallying cry against terrorism.
On the Atlantic City, New Jersey boardwalk, a bench and flagpole were dedicated in remembrance of Victor Saracini, pilot of United Airlines Flight 175 which crashed into the World Trade Center.
Brooklyn, New York's Quincy Street Garden unveiled a memorial monument to the 12 black New York City firefighters who died in the World Trade Center attacks. The monument features a hook-and-ladder emblem, a large laminated flag and a bronze plaque with the names of the firefighters.
On Islip, Long Island, a 10-foot-tall, carved granite stone honors 85 people who died on 9/11, some Islip residents, others born there. On top of the stone are two protruding columns symbolizing the World Trade Center Towers.
A small granite monument was placed at an Ohio air traffic control center that had the last contact with United Airlines Flight 93 before it crashed.
Amtrak employees in the 30th Street Station in Philadelphia volunteered their time and creativity to design a 15 foot tall memorial to honor the victims and heroes of 9/11. The memorial is made up of photographs taken at Ground Zero as well as a dented rescue worker's hard hat and some twisted steel beams.
Federal officials, political leaders and environmentalists are planting about 6,000 trees near the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, rural Pennsylvania and New York City to honor the lives lost and the heroes of 9/11.
A quilt covered with drawings and messages written by more than 3,000 children, adults and civic groups around the country is now part of the permanent 9/11 memorial at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC. The quilt was designed by Alexis Owen, a former freelance writer, who watched the planes hit the towers from her apartment in Brooklyn, NY. The quilt went on a nationwide tour.
In Mt. Iron, Minnesota, the employees of U.S. Steel's Minnesota Ore operations dedicated a special memorial construct at the entrance to the plant in honor of 9/11 victims. It includes actual steel recovered from Ground Zero in New York City.
Native Americans of the Lummi Nation gave to both Shanksville and New York City... 13-foot high totem poles, "healing poles," as an expression of their grief for those grief-striken from the attacks.
A dialysis wing in his native Ethiopia was named for Dr. Yeneneh Betru, a pulmonary specialist practicing in Los Angeles. Dr. Betru was killed when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
In London, a permanent memorial garden for the UK victims of September 11 was dedicated by Princess Anne at Grosvenor Square Garden, near the American Embassy. An inscription on the stone centerpiece pays tribute to victims of all nationalities who died in the attacks, with the names of the 67 British people who died there featured in the garden. A twisted metal girder from the buildings is buried under the garden.
"mel and Surfingfarmboy correctly identified this as the 9/11 memorial on the front lawn of Honolulu Hale at the corner of Punchbowl and King. Surfingfarmboy says he thinks it's one of the first permanent 9/11 memorials in the country, if not the first."
I dunno;
"One of the first."
How can anyone tell?
I would say a vast majority of the memorials we may hear about, (see below) popped up damn near the same time. How can we tell exactly when any of these were the first? Does it matter?! I submit to you, it matters only that we remember "the fallen" and only that.
I would be perfectly content to assume they are all, about the same age.
But most importantly, I believe a memorial for a tragedy of this magnitude and its memory should never be sullied by any hint of a competition of what was or is the biggest memorial. The first memorial. The grandest memorial. The most expensive memorial. The most appropriate memorial. The memorial containing the most shrapnel from ground zero.
Some things such as this should never enter in the same level of conversation as "well, we had the first one. We got da biggest one!"
This is not at all the spirit in which this should be referred or thought of.
...and herewith; some other memorials if yer at all interested...
A sculpture at Los Angeles airport Theme Building, entitled "Recovering Equilibrium" has been dedicated to the heroes and dead of 9/11. It is shaped like a compass, and features words and phrases that reflect national perceptions, rights and ideals.
Also in Los Angeles, a memorial at the city's Fire Department Training Center includes a 23-foot steel column from the lobby of the World Trade Center. The memorial is dedicated to the 343 New York City firefighters who died.
In Malibu, California, a memorial garden at Pepperdine University is dedicated to Flight 93 passenger, Thomas E. Burnett Jr.
A school in San Jose, California was named in honor of Captain Jason Dahl, one of the pilots on United Flight 93. Dahl grew up in San Jose.
A baseball field in Newark, Delaware was dedicated and named after baseball fan Matthew Flocco, age 21, one of 125 people killed inside the Pentagon.
In Fort Pierce, Florida, residents honored the heroes and dead of 9/11 with a life-size statue of CeeCee Lyles, a flight attendant on board United Airlines flight 93 which crashed in Pennsylvania.
In Burlington, Massachusetts, residents dedicated a brick memorial to three men with ties to the Boston suburb who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11 when it struck the World Trade Center. A plaque on the memorial reads: "Always flying high. September 11, 2001. Never to be Forgotten."
Massachusetts Port Authority plans to plant a grove of trees in Boston, one for each victim on the two hijacked planes that took off from Logan Airport.
A thirty-three acre farmland memorial in Massachusetts honors John Ogonowski, captain of American Airlines Flight 11, a fourth-generation farmer.
In Cranbury, New Jersey, the U. S. Postal Service named the local post office in honor of former resident Todd Beamer, the Flight 93 passenger whose phrase, "Let's roll," became a rallying cry against terrorism.
On the Atlantic City, New Jersey boardwalk, a bench and flagpole were dedicated in remembrance of Victor Saracini, pilot of United Airlines Flight 175 which crashed into the World Trade Center.
Brooklyn, New York's Quincy Street Garden unveiled a memorial monument to the 12 black New York City firefighters who died in the World Trade Center attacks. The monument features a hook-and-ladder emblem, a large laminated flag and a bronze plaque with the names of the firefighters.
On Islip, Long Island, a 10-foot-tall, carved granite stone honors 85 people who died on 9/11, some Islip residents, others born there. On top of the stone are two protruding columns symbolizing the World Trade Center Towers.
A small granite monument was placed at an Ohio air traffic control center that had the last contact with United Airlines Flight 93 before it crashed.
Amtrak employees in the 30th Street Station in Philadelphia volunteered their time and creativity to design a 15 foot tall memorial to honor the victims and heroes of 9/11. The memorial is made up of photographs taken at Ground Zero as well as a dented rescue worker's hard hat and some twisted steel beams.
Federal officials, political leaders and environmentalists are planting about 6,000 trees near the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, rural Pennsylvania and New York City to honor the lives lost and the heroes of 9/11.
A quilt covered with drawings and messages written by more than 3,000 children, adults and civic groups around the country is now part of the permanent 9/11 memorial at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC. The quilt was designed by Alexis Owen, a former freelance writer, who watched the planes hit the towers from her apartment in Brooklyn, NY. The quilt went on a nationwide tour.
In Mt. Iron, Minnesota, the employees of U.S. Steel's Minnesota Ore operations dedicated a special memorial construct at the entrance to the plant in honor of 9/11 victims. It includes actual steel recovered from Ground Zero in New York City.
Native Americans of the Lummi Nation gave to both Shanksville and New York City... 13-foot high totem poles, "healing poles," as an expression of their grief for those grief-striken from the attacks.
A dialysis wing in his native Ethiopia was named for Dr. Yeneneh Betru, a pulmonary specialist practicing in Los Angeles. Dr. Betru was killed when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
In London, a permanent memorial garden for the UK victims of September 11 was dedicated by Princess Anne at Grosvenor Square Garden, near the American Embassy. An inscription on the stone centerpiece pays tribute to victims of all nationalities who died in the attacks, with the names of the 67 British people who died there featured in the garden. A twisted metal girder from the buildings is buried under the garden.
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