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  • #31
    Re: Are we pau with HT?

    Since there were no posts by escondido in your thread link, fm, what exactly was the point?

    esco, please continue posting as you may, I for one might not always agree but still appreciate your pov.
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    • #32
      Re: Are we pau with HT?

      Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
      Since there were no posts by escondido in your thread link, fm, what exactly was the point?
      Never said that Escodido posted in the thread that I linked to. Merely that he touched upon what was previously discussed.
      This post may contain an opinion that may conflict with your opinion. Do not take it personal. Polite discussion of difference of opinion is welcome.

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      • #33
        Re: Are we pau with HT?

        I have read the comments here carefully and will try to improve my posting
        style.
        Sorry if I annoyed some. That was not my intent.

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        • #34
          Re: Are we pau with HT?

          Originally posted by Amati View Post
          But now, many online newspapers require a subscription.

          Does having less access to free internet news cut down on thread ideas?
          One thing I don't like is a link back to an article that requires payment to view. So yes, perhaps there is less posting here because a link back to the source article may only frustrate people when they hit the PAYWALL.

          I make it my policy never to link back to paywall articles.
          I'm still here. Are you?

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          • #35
            Re: Are we pau with HT?

            While I still see some activity here, I've noticed that another message board I frequented (one that I discovered through the postings of a number of folks who rarely pop in here now - we'll call it "the lanai") has pretty much died off; weeks will pass before there is a new posting there. I know BookFace has stolen the attention of quite a few of those regulars.

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            • #36
              Re: Are we pau with HT?

              I think it boils down to a cell phone/facebook society walling itself from all but the comfy familiar and exponential isolation against others. Too many are no longer reaching out and engaging anybody but those within their little circle.
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              • #37
                Re: Are we pau with HT?

                Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                I think it boils down to a cell phone/facebook society walling itself from all but the comfy familiar and exponential isolation against others. Too many are no longer reaching out and engaging anybody but those within their little circle.
                Oh, you mean like every "clique" since the beginning of time?

                Isn't reaching out, and engaging with friends, e-friends still reaching out and engaging? There is a reason people tend to stay within their "circles", its because they are more comfortable. 85% of society surrounds themselves with like-minded people, it's human nature.

                It's a forum. Things come and go. like all good meals, this too shall pass.

                Perhaps it is exactly the opposite of your hypothesis. . .perhaps folks are too tied up with REAL world stuff, and finding time to engage on HT has just become a lower priority.
                flickr

                An email from God:
                To: People of Earth
                From: God
                Date: 9/04/2007
                Subject: stop

                knock it off, all of you

                seriously, what the hell


                --
                God

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                • #38
                  Re: Are we pau with HT?

                  I think the reason for this current state of affairs (of HT) is due to all of the above. And probably more.

                  A lot has happened to me personally in the last year, which has curtailed my desire to post. Things that happen in the “real world” somehow have a way of affecting the “virtual” world, which is not very real.

                  When I first joined HT, this was as vibrant a place to cast your net as anywhere on the WWW. So many voices, so many personalities, so many views. You could choose which funnel cloud you wanted to be whooshed into. It was a virtual landscape of whirlwinds. But now, there are fewer voices, fewer personalities, fewer views. Defection to Facebook and Twitter certainly contributed to less participation. But forums are but part of the parade. Like Tat says, “Things come and go. Like all good meals, this too shall pass.” And it will.

                  I am also a member of another forum (a literature forum) that was as vibrant as HT (maybe even more so, if you can believe that), but it quieted down quite a bit recently (coincidentally, about the same time as HT did), for much the same reasons offered here. In the last two weeks it shut down completely because the site was hacked and infected with malware. I feel at a loss. Funny how we grow attached to ephemeral things.

                  If you love this forum (and I do), just keep plugging along. It’s all you can do. Nothing lasts forever.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Are we pau with HT?

                    Yeah, almost any forum considered has lowered it's participation ratio in recent times, not just HT.

                    Originally posted by TATTRAT View Post
                    Isn't reaching out, and engaging with friends, e-friends still reaching out and engaging?

                    There is a reason people tend to stay within their "circles", its because they are more comfortable. 85% of society surrounds themselves with like-minded people, it's human nature.

                    It's a forum. Things come and go. like all good meals, this too shall pass.

                    Perhaps it is exactly the opposite of your hypothesis. . .perhaps folks are too tied up with REAL world stuff, and finding time to engage on HT has just become a lower priority.
                    To a minimalist degree.

                    A less sociable form of human nature?

                    I think this thread has sparked a sudden albeit slight upturn, without it we may have watched it pass with lilies across it's chest.

                    Some maybe, maybe an equal number have less ties, what's their excuse?

                    Still, just amongst the base HT core we should be able to do this forum better.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Are we pau with HT?

                      Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
                      Still, just amongst the base HT core we should be able to do this forum better.
                      As one of "the base core," may I suggest we all take steps to "do this forum better," such as:

                      Avoid vague postings - no clever/incomplete/not-understandable-at-a-glance thread titles followed by an equally incomprehensible posting, or little more than a link and an encouragement to open it. When you post, think of the rest of us as a busy, distracted audience, and give us a compelling reason to read/link/comment on your thread. Tell us a bit more what you want us to read about; draw us in with detail.

                      Consider your topics carefully for a new thread - is it something you'd be comfortable having your boss, your partner, your minister, your tutu knowing you were trying to trigger discussion about? Or are you just bored and want to talk about poop? Post something that will stimulate creative discussion, rather than just make you giggle when you have the mental munchies.

                      Enough pissing on each other - yeah, I don't like your politics/religious demands/choice of TV viewing/musical tastes/dinner options, and you don't like mine. So let's not engage each other on those topics. You want to talk political or social issues? Excellent - but that means more than one of us telling the other "you and your (insulting term here that's only clever to you) kind are fulla crap."

                      Bottom line - you want HT to be a better forum? Take it upon yourself to make it one, and THINK BEFORE YOU POST.

                      Yep - I'm guilty of most of the crimes stated above. I thought I was being clever with some of my comments, when no one else thought so. OK, I haven't posted about poop, but I've sure derailed many a conversation. And I'm clean outta piss for this forum. If someone riles me now, I try to walk away from the thread and not respond in kind.

                      Think about your audience. Think about a total stranger reading your post (and admit it, except in a handful of cases, we are total strangers to each other). Would what you posted stimulate a respectable level of discussion, if you were the person on the other side of the screen, reading it for the first time?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Are we pau with HT?

                        Well, even cum-cakes 'stimulated' conversation, low-brow as it was, so basically threads just need to be started if we're gonna toss it.
                        Engaging your excellant guidelines are merely the... frosting.
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                        • #42
                          Re: Are we pau with HT?

                          as another member of the "base core"- what Leo says works for me too.
                          "Democracy is the only system that persists in asking the powers that be whether they are the powers that ought to be."
                          – Sydney J. Harris

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                          • #43
                            Re: Are we pau with HT?

                            No. No. No. Not pau now. Not pau eva.
                            If anyone on Oahu is NOT happy , feel free to trade places with me.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Are we pau with HT?

                              Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                              Avoid vague postings - no clever/incomplete/not-understandable-at-a-glance thread titles followed by an equally incomprehensible posting, or little more than a link and an encouragement to open it. When you post, think of the rest of us as a busy, distracted audience, and give us a compelling reason to read/link/comment on your thread. Tell us a bit more what you want us to read about; draw us in with detail.
                              I agree 100% with that one, to me a too vague of a posting is the equivalent of no posting at all. At least give us a line or two or three from the article, and a short comment or question. I do not even bother opening a link if I have no clue what it might contain.
                              Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Are we pau with HT?

                                When I do it, I do it purposely, to invite curiosity and reward with a payoff. No like chance..., no like gain.
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