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  • #31
    Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

    ((((looks left)

    (looks right)))

    I buy both. I get the HA during certain weekdays. I prefer the HSB Sunday edition, even though the HA has more stuff to read. I think both do a fine job of sharing scoops across the isles, even though there have been many occasions where each of you guys got it all WRONG. Each paper does a distinct enough job at covering stories, so I prefer to read each and try to figure out for myself which part is straight out of a press release and which stuff is actual reporter follow-up.

    I would be bummed if either paper sunk.

    I like my own isle's daily paper.

    I also read PBN over the weekends, and Honolulu and Hawai'i Business magazines each month.

    pax

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    • #32
      Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

      <<<<types left
      types right
      types up and types down>>>>>>

      I buy them all, read them all
      bitch about them all... equally.

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      • #33
        Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

        Originally posted by Jeffrey Green
        The truth hurts, my friend.
        Still...don't go away. Stay, lurk, post, inform, opinionate, contribute; you are still welcome, IMHO.

        FWIW, my Kane`ohe out-laws prefer the print edition of HA over the S-B; apparently, many years ago during a teachers' strike, the HA editorially supported the teachers and the S-B did not; they switched loyalties at that time, and have remained subscribers since.

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        • #34
          Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

          Originally posted by Leo Lakio
          Still...don't go away.
          I think JG will remain
          tho he is in pain.

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          • #35
            Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

            Originally posted by kimo55
            <<<<types left
            types right
            types up and types down>>>>>>
            You. Are. Sassy.

            pax

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            • #36
              Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

              Originally posted by kimo55
              I think JG will remain
              tho he is in pain.
              Are you gettin' poetic?
              Or just pathetic?
              (My rhyming skills
              Are just one of my ills.
              I need some more pills...)

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              • #37
                Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                Originally posted by Pua'i Mana'o
                You. Are. Sassy.
                looks left, looks right
                gets whiplash day and nite
                rides in on highhorse
                Known as Pa'u rider of course.
                waving and screaming till i'm hoarse.
                peeks in the door
                jumps out again.
                only here to entertain Kimo, my friend.

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                • #38
                  Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                  Originally posted by kimo55
                  looks left, looks right
                  gets whiplash day and nite
                  rides in on highhorse
                  Known as Pa'u rider of course.
                  waving and screaming till i'm hoarse.
                  peeks in the door
                  jumps out again.
                  only here to entertain Kimo, my friend.

                  oO(highhorse??!!?)

                  where the hell is my BRAZEN STARE icon?!?!?!

                  pax

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                  • #39
                    Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                    tucks tail between legs
                    turns and runs from room
                    gets da hell outta here
                    as pua'i lowers da boom

                    why i'm tawkin la dees.
                    making up dumb scenarios.
                    There aint no horse in no room.
                    it's internetdumspeak as everyone knows.
                    Last edited by kimo55; July 18, 2006, 03:02 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                      The website was a buzzin’ filled with people across the seas
                      The forum board a spreadsheet with translations heading different themes
                      The participants were a motley bunch, filled with or creating dread
                      And Pua’i had her mana’o
                      Mana’o, her mana’o
                      And Pua’i typed her googleable-forever mana’o on Hawai’i Threads.

                      He’d a sassy point of view and a camcorder in his hand
                      He was taking turns and trading barbs and brilliantly would ham
                      And we knew his times of quiet meant uploading stuff somewhere
                      And we would find those gems on youtube
                      That evil site of brain dube
                      Watching sharks hump brainless big boobs while unable to break our stare

                      Haina ia mai ana ka puana la
                      This poem is abbreviated ecetera bla-di-blah
                      As a tangent has been jumped and we forget the topic that we were on
                      The Honolulu Advertiser
                      Or was that about the Bulletin
                      Or maybe we are simpletons who should pick pua for Algernon
                      Last edited by Pua'i Mana'o; July 18, 2006, 03:32 PM. Reason: apologies to Alfred Noyes ;-)

                      pax

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                      • #41
                        Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                        There was a thread about the Tizer
                        of those who love and despise her
                        But mean old Jeff Green
                        is the only one seen
                        gushing her self-Valentine geyser
                        Burl Burlingame
                        "Art is never finished, only abandoned." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
                        honoluluagonizer.com

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                        • #42
                          Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                          nuh-uh.

                          If I gotta fire up my neurons to riff on "The Highwayman", you need to stretch a liiiiiitle further than "the man from Nantucket".

                          Let's see some EA Poe, or sumpin'. At least rip yer heart out of thy breast.

                          <taps foot>

                          pax

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                          • #43
                            Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                            "The way I figure it, the Advertiser uses Honolulu Hale to stage its self-valentines, the Star-Bulletin uses Hawaii Threads. "

                            I think that's about right, and I also appreciate Ryan's comments about the balance of opinion around here, which were about as thoughtful as any I've seen at HT.

                            Having been a target of my share of harsh posts back in my Weekly days, and having responded in kind, I'd have to say that there's some truth to the "thin-skinned" charge, at least in my case. It's best not to let things get to you that much, especially in a medium like this, but the fact of the matter is that the old trope that "the thin-skinned have no business in this business" belies the fact that journalists are a pretty hypersensitive bunch. Which is a fault.

                            That said, there are a few regulars here who fit the textbook definition of "troll," and while there are one or two posts I regret, on balance I think people like that - easily identified by their tendency to disappear as the dialouge gets more thoughtful - deserve whatever they get.

                            Ultimately, while the Weekly's many detractors often have a point, employees of the two dailies shouldn't be casting stones, imo. The Weekly compares at least as favorably to its continental counterparts as do the Advertiser or SB...if not better. While I absolutely know that everyone involved is doing his or her best, it's still true that journalism in Hawaii generally suffers from a tendency to make nice; while there are big Mainland papers that do the same (the Oregonian leaps to mind), it's still a vice.
                            Last edited by ragnar; July 18, 2006, 04:11 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                              Originally posted by buzz1941
                              But since some secret Tizer posters are on here, maybe they can solve this puzzle: The Advertiser's photo page of smiling people at the event include a woman identified as "Karen Bechtel" but who is a dead ringer for Bev Creamer. So, who is it?
                              I'm not a secret Tizer Poster but...

                              I asked a mutual friend of the man in the middle of this photo and he says that it could very well have been Ms. Bechtel; their son recently turned 21. Hey if former spouses can rekindle an old spark, why the heck not?
                              Aloha from Lavagal

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                              • #45
                                Re: Big fat self-valentine for the Advertiser

                                Originally posted by Middleman
                                snip...
                                The only given is both dailies are way better than the Honolulu Weekly and less vain than the Pacific Business News.

                                I don't get this about PBN. I've worked at PBN and never felt it a vain publication. I get friendly nudges to renew each year and I do because I want it to have one more number in its ABC figures. When I worked there, it had just been acquired by American City Business Journals and changes definitely have occurred. And for some reason they are actually paying real salaries (that wasn't my experience!!!). Maybe this perception comes from the confidence of belonging to a huge organization? I think Hawaii Business magazine corners more of the smugness market than PBN does! But things happen ya know? What the Heck?
                                Aloha from Lavagal

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