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  • #16
    Re: "Consumer Complaints" on TV?

    Originally posted by D'Alani View Post
    The response I received from DOH is that each recycling redemption center/company have a choice to pay us for the aluminum and that it is not required by law.
    So what it comes down to is that we're giving them the "full supply" for our 5¢, so why should they up the price. Increasing the price will not increase the number of cans coming in (by much).

    It's probably going to take some competition to get anyone to give us more.

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    • #17
      Re: "Consumer Complaints" on TV?

      I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. The 5 cents we receive is what is due to us because we are charged an extra 5 cents as a deposit...which we get back when we redeem the container...the other penny is for administrative costs. I am asking why are we are not paid for the weight of the HI5 aluminum containers which we recycle. The State makes out when someone does not redeem a container to get back their deposit and the recycling company makes out by not paying us for the weight of the aluminum, rather they only give us back our 5 cent deposit, which is due us because that is what it is a deposit. We don't pay a deposit for spam, vienna sausage, etc. and they pay us by the weight when we recycle them so why are the HI5 aluminum containers any different?...because we are getting our DEPOSIT back? It all doesn't make any sense to me. These are the same containers that people used to smash and take to a redempion center and get paid for its weight, now all you get back is your own money. I think if they paid us for the weight also the numbers that are recycled might increase but then the company will only make the same profit as they do with the spam cans and not profit 100% on the HI5 containers.

      Anyway it's just one of my pet peeves that I needed to express.
      Last edited by D'Alani; September 7, 2011, 11:24 AM.

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      • #18
        Re: "Consumer Complaints" on TV?

        Originally posted by D'Alani View Post
        I think if they paid us for the weight also the numbers that are recycled might increase but then the company will only make the same profit as they do with the spam cans and not profit 100% on the HI5 containers.
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        I'd not ever thought of it that way. The 5 cents they pay us is just a reimbursement for money we already fronted. So, even after they pay us 5 cents per can, the company still can sell the aluminum for pure profit. Hey !!!
        Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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        • #19
          Re: "Consumer Complaints" on TV?

          Originally posted by D'Alani View Post
          I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.
          Not at all. I understand your point. You think we're owed the scrap price of the cans plus the 5¢ deposit. But legally, we're not.

          I think you missed mine. It's call supply and demand. Increasing the price payed for soda cans would not appreciably increase the number of cans turned in. If they did, overall profit would be down. So they don't.

          So why is the HI5 containers different then the spam cans? Because if they didn't pay the scrap price of the spam can, no one would turn them in. So they set a price on the spam cans that's a balance between the profit on each can and how many get turned in. How do they determine that balance? What makes them the most total profit.

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          • #20
            Re: "Consumer Complaints" on TV?

            Okay I see your point now, so I wish the DOH had explained it to me like you have and I my issue with it would have ended. As you say the first thing one must realize is that we are not legally entitled to get payment for recycling. So I thank you GG for making this clear to me which also changed this ugly feeling I was developing for some of our government agencies.

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