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  • damontucker
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    How is this for a salary:
    Forbes estimates Adelson earned about $1 million an hour over the past two years.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/...i_ge/forbes400

    Yes.... that was per hour...!

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  • SouthKona
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    Originally posted by tikiyaki
    Konguy, Jonah K....
    Does much of Miloli'i still look like the moon ? With those amazing ocean views there, how long can it stay desolate and undeveloped ? Eventually it would have to start seriously start building up, unless there is still the danger of lava flow covering there again. What's the situation with that ?
    The day has already come - Milolii has already started to build up. Yes, it might be revisited by lava. But, heck, the same can be said for Kailua-Kona, the volcano that sits above Kona (Hualalai) is overdue for an eruption. In general, the Big Island has lava, earthquakes, floods, and all sorts of the things that come with living on a growing (literally) island. But, that's the trade off for the beauty, wildness, and open spaces that Hawaii Island offers.
    Last edited by SouthKona; September 15, 2006, 09:38 AM.

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  • Queenolu
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    Originally posted by anapuni808
    and I just realized, I'm justifiying my lifestyle to strangers. Thats really stupid on my part - I only have to justify it to myself. Sorry for intruding my thoughts on the rest of you. I guess it was just an effort to encourage some introspection on this thread. My bad. Won't happen again.
    Actually, I agree with you Anapuni.... you are truly correct. If we all just learn to live with just having enough of what we need... surely this world would be a better place for all. We are alllllll so buggggged down with "wanting" all the material things that sooner or later.... the material things will soon take over the human race...... I watch something on TV last week that talked about computers getting too smart by our design and if sooner or later computers will be able to take over.... this by our own creation to make life easy for us.

    My Dad thought me while I was younger to learn the difference between need and want. I try my best to live by this principle... thanks Dad. You need water and food to live.... you don't need granite countertop to live or to cook in the kitchen.

    This is why when people ask me.... so you are just going to sell all your things and move to HI.... I said... "YES"... those things don't make who I am and I surely can buy things at the other end as I need them. All pictures and keepsakes will be kept in a safe place. You need a roof over your head.. and as long as I have that... soon enough everything I "want" under that room will find it's way there one by one...

    The more advance we get... the more complicated life gets....

    So YES, on $65k are year.... I can live anywhere..... why don't you give me the job that is paying you that money and let me show you that you can live well with that income.


    Mahalo... just the Queen's 2 cent

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  • tikiyaki
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    Originally posted by anapuni808
    Actually, I'm nearing "senior citizen" status I read a book quite a few years ago called "Your Money or Your Life", written by Joe Dominguez & Vicki Robin. It teaches you to learn the difference between want (wow, those granite countertops are really pretty - and they are so trendy & everyone is getting them) and need (what I really need is just a good, solid, easy to clean & maintain, work surface). and how many hours am I going to have to work to pay for the granite countertops and am I willing to make that much contribution to consumerism? Thats pretty much how I live my life - want vs. need. It makes life much simpler & easier.

    I often have the feeling that if more people would learn what is "enough", there would be a lot more satisfied and productive people in the world. Of course, I would love to have more "stuff", a big fancy investment house, a bright shiny new car - but I have enough to get by and thats really all I ask from life.
    Right on anapuni. There is definietly something to be said for minimalism. It's something alot of people, myself included struggle with. Your stuff just sneaks up on you. Reminds me of the George Carlin bit about "Stuff" WindwardOahuRN mentioned. That's such a great bit, and SO true.

    I hate those granite countertops. In 10-15 years you'll be watching HGTV House Hunters and the people will be saying "Eww...these dated granite countertops and stainless steel appliances need to go".

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  • anapuni808
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    and I just realized, I'm justifiying my lifestyle to strangers. Thats really stupid on my part - I only have to justify it to myself. Sorry for intruding my thoughts on the rest of you. I guess it was just an effort to encourage some introspection on this thread. My bad. Won't happen again.

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  • anapuni808
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    Originally posted by WindwardOahuRN
    Totally individual. You are fortunate to be satisfied with a lifestyle that many others would find unacceptable, even intolerable, IMHO. Apparently, what you make is "enough" to satisfy your individual needs.

    But will it always be? I don't know anything about you, of course. I am guessing you are still quite young?

    Most people, IME, desire "things" (thinking of the George Carlin "stuff" routine). A decent car, a vacation once in a while, granite countertops, etc.

    And when a family is a factor, we want things for our family. To make our lives and their lives more comfortable, more satisfying. To provide what we consider to be a good standard of living.

    "Enough" is what makes you content. That tends to change as time goes by.
    Actually, I'm nearing "senior citizen" status I read a book quite a few years ago called "Your Money or Your Life", written by Joe Dominguez & Vicki Robin. It teaches you to learn the difference between want (wow, those granite countertops are really pretty - and they are so trendy & everyone is getting them) and need (what I really need is just a good, solid, easy to clean & maintain, work surface). and how many hours am I going to have to work to pay for the granite countertops and am I willing to make that much contribution to consumerism? Thats pretty much how I live my life - want vs. need. It makes life much simpler & easier.

    I often have the feeling that if more people would learn what is "enough", there would be a lot more satisfied and productive people in the world. Of course, I would love to have more "stuff", a big fancy investment house, a bright shiny new car - but I have enough to get by and thats really all I ask from life.
    Last edited by anapuni808; September 15, 2006, 07:39 AM.

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  • tikiyaki
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    OK...I found THIS to answer my own question...
    http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/hazards/maps.html

    Looks like it's in a zone 2. I know of the H.O.V.E (Hawaiian Ocean View Estates)...any other neighborhoods there besides this one ?

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  • tikiyaki
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    Konguy, Jonah K....
    Does much of Miloli'i still look like the moon ? With those amazing ocean views there, how long can it stay desolate and undeveloped ? Eventually it would have to start seriously start building up, unless there is still the danger of lava flow covering there again. What's the situation with that ?

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  • Jonah K
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    Originally posted by SouthKona
    Have you been to Milolii recently? The prices of lots have increased dramatically in the past few years. Many new homes are being built, and the prices are reflecting the Milolii ocean views. But, still 65K should be enough. I'd also check out HOVE (Hawaiian Ocean View Estates), you might still be able to get less expensive prices there...
    I've seen a few small "fixers" on 7,500 sq. ft. lots in Miloli'i that someone with an income of $65K/year could afford. Of course, the real housing bargains on the Big Island are in Hilo and Puna.

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  • WindwardOahuRN
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    Originally posted by anapuni808
    How much does someone need to live? What is considered "enough"? I'm a single female, rent a decent apt. in a good neighborhood, manage to pay my bills, buy groceries, and all the other necessities of life including movies, eating in restaurants. going to a salon for hair cuts (and its not Super Cuts!), and social activities. I even shop at Neiman Marcus once in a while and take a lot of taxi rides. All this on approx. $21,000 per year at a part-time job! Of course, I've never felt the urge to "own" something I can't pick up & take with me when I want to leave (like a house). and I do ride the bus. But still, I have a decent life on my very small salary.

    So again - How much is considered "enough"?
    Totally individual. You are fortunate to be satisfied with a lifestyle that many others would find unacceptable, even intolerable, IMHO. Apparently, what you make is "enough" to satisfy your individual needs.

    But will it always be? I don't know anything about you, of course. I am guessing you are still quite young?

    Most people, IME, desire "things" (thinking of the George Carlin "stuff" routine). A decent car, a vacation once in a while, granite countertops, etc.

    And when a family is a factor, we want things for our family. To make our lives and their lives more comfortable, more satisfying. To provide what we consider to be a good standard of living.

    "Enough" is what makes you content. That tends to change as time goes by.
    Last edited by WindwardOahuRN; September 15, 2006, 12:10 AM.

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  • SouthKona
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    Originally posted by kll1604
    Can I live on 65000 a year on Kona? I am single and would like to buy a home.
    You can live very comfortably in Kona on 65K a year. However, "buying a home" will be a challenging endeavor, now that our prices have gone up so much. Of course, you could always do the standby plan: "buy a house and rent out rooms to make the mortgage more manageable".

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  • anapuni808
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    Originally posted by WindwardOahuRN
    It's liveable here on Oahu but it doesn't allow for savings, potential for home purchase, or much more than day-to-day existence. A decent existence, possibly, but not much hope for the future.

    For a single person, that is. Toss a non-working spouse and a couple of kids into the mix and you're sunk.

    Come here with enough for a good down payment on a home and 65K might be enough. As you age, property taxes (which, IME, are significantly lower than in many areas of the country) are reduced. Retirement income is not subject to state taxation, IIRC.

    The sales tax is lower than in many states, but you are taxed on virtually every damn thing, including doctor's visits and vegetables.

    The whole "moving to Hawaii" thing is a series of trade-offs. You decide what is valuable to you and whether those things are worth the trade-off.
    How much does someone need to live? What is considered "enough"? I'm a single female, rent a decent apt. in a good neighborhood, manage to pay my bills, buy groceries, and all the other necessities of life including movies, eating in restaurants. going to a salon for hair cuts (and its not Super Cuts!), and social activities. I even shop at Neiman Marcus once in a while and take a lot of taxi rides. All this on approx. $21,000 per year at a part-time job! Of course, I've never felt the urge to "own" something I can't pick up & take with me when I want to leave (like a house). and I do ride the bus. But still, I have a decent life on my very small salary.

    So again - How much is considered "enough"?

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  • SouthKona
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    Originally posted by Jonah K
    If you're willing to live in Miloli'i, you can probably buy a home and live in the district of South Kona with an income of $65K per year.
    Have you been to Milolii recently? The prices of lots have increased dramatically in the past few years. Many new homes are being built, and the prices are reflecting the Milolii ocean views. But, still 65K should be enough. I'd also check out HOVE (Hawaiian Ocean View Estates), you might still be able to get less expensive prices there...

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  • Konaguy
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    Originally posted by Leo Lakio
    If it got a smile out of you, then it was worth it. (I thought you were ignoring me anyway?) It's a tough tool to use --- cause we really do want to see what other people have to say.
    Yes I took you off ignore last night

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  • Leo Lakio
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    Originally posted by Konaguy
    Was that really necessary to say that ?
    If it got a smile out of you, then it was worth it. (I thought you were ignoring me anyway?) It's a tough tool to use --- cause we really do want to see what other people have to say.

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