Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

[Leo Lakio]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

No, you misunderstood me, Myopic. --- That's my only point, Joe.

(Don't worry, U`ilani - we know you meant Frankie's Market, not MyopicJoe.)

[U'ilani]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

You need to put Joe Biden's quote about Hillary Clinton into its proper context. Biden made his statement when someone at a Democratic fundraiser took a swipe at Clinton and said he was glad she wasn't selected as Barack Obama's running mate. So he said what he said to defend Hillary.

Keep in mind: the primary campaign is over. Obama is no longer running against Clinton. The Obama camp is doing it's best to reach out to Hillary's supporters and to unify the Democratic Party. Biden concurring with someone making a derogatory remark about the former First Lady isn't the best way of making peace with the Clintonites, don'cha think?

But yeah, leave it to someone in McCain's camp to try and twist Biden's words around. After this whole lipstick fiasco, I think voters will start getting fed up with pundits who twist every little thing the candidates say instead of focusing on the issues that really matter, like the economy, healthcare, national security, Iraq, etc.

No, you misunderstood me, Myopic. I don't have a dog in this fight. I understand the context of Biden's comment completely; my point is that comments like that can be used by his opponents by taking it out of context (as with the lipstick-pig one was done briefly yesterday). Politics is a bloodsport, and Hillary knew how to take on her opponents like a grand competitor/athlete; I don't see Obama having that same "go for the jugular" that politicians seem to require in this day and age. That may say something about Obama and his higher moral character, but it may be the thing that keeps him from winning this race. That's my only point, Joe. Don't throw me in your silly partisan battle here on the HT board; it bores the hell out of me. As I said before, our country is screwed no matter who gets in.

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

This would seem to be undercutting the argument that the Dems have tried to make that Obama is qualified to be president, and reminding the public about the highly qualified candidate they had in Hillary Clinton. Buyer's remorse, indeed. McCain's people will use that comment against them; I can hear the ads already: "Even his own vp candidate, Senator Biden, acknowledges how easily qualified his former competitor, Hillary Clinton, was to be president..."

Sounds like the same kind of bizarre spin that the McCain campaign used against Barack Obama, claiming that his "lipstick on a pig" statement amounted to the Illinois senator called Sarah Palin a pig.

You need to put Joe Biden's quote about Hillary Clinton into its proper context. Biden made his statement when someone at a Democratic fundraiser took a swipe at Clinton and said he was glad she wasn't selected as Barack Obama's running mate. So he said what he said to defend Hillary.

Keep in mind: the primary campaign is over. Obama is no longer running against Clinton. The Obama camp is doing it's best to reach out to Hillary's supporters and to unify the Democratic Party. Biden concurring with someone making a derogatory remark about the former First Lady isn't the best way of making peace with the Clintonites, don'cha think?

But yeah, leave it to someone in McCain's camp to try and twist Biden's words around. After this whole lipstick fiasco, I think voters will start getting fed up with pundits who twist every little thing the candidates say instead of focusing on the issues that really matter, like the economy, healthcare, national security, Iraq, etc.

[U'ilani]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Why in the world would Joe Biden make this comment?

"Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate, so let’s get that straight."

This would seem to be undercutting the argument that the Dems have tried to make that Obama is qualified to be president, and reminding the public about the highly qualified candidate they had in Hillary Clinton. Buyer's remorse, indeed. McCain's people will use that comment against them; I can hear the ads already: "Even his own vp candidate, Senator Biden, acknowledges how easily qualified his former competitor, Hillary Clinton, was to be president..."

Who are the idiots running Obama's campaign? They need pitbulls (pun intended) like McCain has if they want to win. The public, frankly, eats up all of this playground quarrels and it impacts the way they see the candidates.

And then Obama is stupid enough to make the pigs & lipstick comment so soon after Palin made her pitbulls & lipstick one. Why didn't Obama realize that he'd take another body blow for that comment, probably particularly by white women who are mesmerized by Palin's personal narrative and can more easily identify with her?

Well, her interview with Charlie Gibson is tonight, so this is our first opportunity to see how she can perform without a script. Should be interesting.



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Oh, and I want to add that I think escondido100 could be right about Hillary wanting Obama to lose so that she can run against Palin. The next president will almost assuredly have a country in further economic & geopolitical crisis; if McCain wins, Hillary will have 4 years of the state of our nation under McCain/Palin to ridicule. By then, the country might truly be ready/willing/desperate enough to vote for a liberal again for president, and a woman, at that.

[My political/philosophical leanings: fiscally conservative, socially moderate cynic]

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

biden was quoted today that he thought hillary was better qualified than he.....foe president and vice president.....i think that obama has buyers remorse......and biden is prepping for stepping aside.....

IOW, you think the Obama campaign is going to start panicking because of the Palin factor. Wrongo, that's not going to happen. As voters learn more about Palin and the dirty politicking of the GOP, I think buyer's remorse will set in with all those freshly jumping on the McCain/Palin bandwagon.

[escondido100]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

biden was quoted today that he thought hillary was better qualified than he.....foe president and vice president.....i think that obama has buyers remorse......and biden is prepping for stepping aside.....i seriously doubt that hillary will have anything to do with this....she is waiting for 2012 when she can go up against....palin.....she has a very good reason to not want obama to win.

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

So Obama has chosen Biden. And as the Biden thread indicates, some *cough* timkona *cough* feel that he was not the best choice. So in light of the arguments that have been made for the selection, does anyone still feel there was a better candidate? Who and why?

[buzz1941]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Try to keep up, Burl.

Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Please forgive this unbelievable breach.

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Talking about "keeping up" with the news, the first TV outlet to come out and confirm Biden being offered the VP slot appears to be CNN, with John King quoting two sources from the Democratic Party who he refused to name, but said were very reliable. This was on the Larry King Show.

Then within another couple of minutes, FOX News reported the same thing on Hannity and Colmes, but attributed their source as being the AP.

MSNBC? At that moment, they were in the middle of their typical Friday night block programming. Probably Lock Up or To Catch A Predator.

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Well, it's official. Joe Biden will be his running mate

I found out while watching the monitors at 24 Hour Fitness tonight! MSNBC had a field day.

Of course, Biden was not in the poll that started this thread.

...which we already discussed extensively. Try to keep up, Burl.

[buzz1941]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Of course, Biden was not in the poll that started this thread.

[Random]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Think again. Joe Biden is 19 years younger than Bob Dole.

So, Dole was there when Adam ate the Fruit, and Biden was there to see Noah built an Ark.

Well, it's official. Joe Biden will be his running mate, according to his official web site, as well as this article:

http://news.aol.com/elections/articl...256x1200451047

[TuNnL]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Looks like it could be down to Biden, Kansas Governor, Chet Edwards or some darkhorse surprise like clinton or gore.

I think it will be Biden. Good choice

I agree. According to FlightAware.com, a private jet flew in a charter flight from Chicago to New Castle, Delaware. This is an unusual flight, so speculation by ABC News abounds that the plane is there to pick up Biden. It arrived a few hours ago.

[Kalihiboy]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

Kaine and Bayh are out of the running:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/....vp/index.html

Looks like it could be down to Biden, Kansas Governor, Chet Edwards or some darkhorse surprise like clinton or gore.

I think it will be Biden. Good choice, though if he wins along with Obama will be too old to run for President if the opportunity should arise in 8 years.

Regarding Biden, who has more electoral votes Hawaii or Delaware?

Aj

[Frankie's Market]

Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?

So, about the same prehistoric age as Bob Dole.

Think again. Joe Biden is 19 years younger than Bob Dole.

Keep in mind that when Biden first took office in the US Senate in 1973, he had just turned 30 years of age. So although it may seem like he's been a senator for ages, Biden has not passed the big SEVEN-OH yet. He's now 65.