Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?
Yup Leo, Dems did not pick Edwards last time for the exact same reason that Obama and Clinton were the best they could do this time around.
Liberal political philosophy of the modern era is trapped in suicidal tendencies. Efforts to lose are subliminally promoted by the desire to wring hands. Without the mental anguish of loss or disappointment, Dems quickly lose sight of objectives.
When your vision of yourself is clouded in utopianism, you seldom see the facts.
PS - I plan to spend the evening hours learning about Ms. Sebelius
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Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?
Originally posted by 1stwahine View PostYou forgot to comment.
- He’s a fluent Latino border-state governor, who will win those states plus Florida for Obama
- He has served as a U.S. Congressman, U.N. Ambassador, and U.S. Secretary of Energy (his DOE tenure is a story in itself)
- He successfully negotiated the release of two American hostages through one-on-one negotiations with Saddam Hussein
- He successfully negotiated the release of an American journalist being held in Sudan
- The Cato Institute has consistently rated him one of the most fiscally responsible Governors in the nation
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Originally posted by Vanguard View PostThere are a lot of qualified people here, but my choice is Kathleen Sebelius.
She flipped a red state to blue, and has been a good governor for Kansas. Obama needs someone with executive experience, and I believe Sebelius' experience stands for quality.
She also attended the annual Bilderberg Group meeting last year, so you know she's going places
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I remember watching her "America's response" to the State of the Union earlier this year and just thinking, "WOW."
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If it were a truly forecasted runaway win for BO I'd like to see Hill get the VP slot, but I'm not into even close calls this time. The '04 election was the tipping point for this country, and now we are sliding quickly into the abyss, which will take way more than BO and company to pull us out to any sufficient degree.
At this point, I select Jesse Ventura as VP, and his first job is to body slam BO for his support of Bush's FISA BS. 2nd job, chase down Bush/Cheney/Rove, de-bone and do 'em up like a turducken. 3rd job, bring back the boa.
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Originally posted by Vanguard View PostOriginally posted by TuNnL View PostWesley Clark is a retired 4-star general. So I don’t understand what you mean by “no executive experience.” He was the commanding general in the Battle of Kosovo. How much more executive can you get then that?
At least if we go by your definition, we’ve narrowed down the eligible candidates to the handful of governors under consideration.
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Originally posted by scrivener View Postunless the Democrats win (which I imagine is nearly a lock).Originally posted by timkona View PostEdwards could have beaten The Idiot last go round.
I've already stated in other threads that I'm comfortable with Richardson - but this poll is going to make me investigate some of the other options more fully.
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Originally posted by TuNnL View PostHmmm...you parade this fact like a badge of honor. I see it as a mark of shame. Looking at my signature, you probably already knew that. But it doesn’t mean she wouldn’t make a great VP.
Wesley Clark is a retired 4-star general. So I don’t understand what you mean by “no executive experience.” He was the commanding general in the Battle of Kosovo. How much more executive can you get then that?
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Bill Richardson or John Edwards.
Edwards could have beaten The Idiot last go round. Dems chose Kerry instead. He still polls well among right voters.
Richardson gives Obama some "street cred" in the halls of DC. Brings the Hispanic vote on board. Has lots of great experience. And a good face of hair.
Clinton virtually guarantees a McCain win, according to every poll you can find.
I chose BR in this poll.
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Originally posted by Vanguard View PostShe also attended the annual Bilderberg Group meeting last year, so you know she's going places
Originally posted by Vanguard View PostI'd also be happy with Bill Richardson or Wesley Clark. (the latter has no executive experience that I'm aware of, but military credentials are also good)
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Re: Who Should Be Obama’s VP?
There are a lot of qualified people here, but my choice is Kathleen Sebelius.
She flipped a red state to blue, and has been a good governor for Kansas. Obama needs someone with executive experience, and I believe Sebelius' experience stands for quality.
She also attended the annual Bilderberg Group meeting last year, so you know she's going places
I'd also be happy with Bill Richardson or Wesley Clark. (the latter has no executive experience that I'm aware of, but military credentials are also good)Last edited by Vanguard; July 15, 2008, 02:21 AM.
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previous posts dotted throughout the HT landscape are more than enough commentary as to why i prefer sen. clinton as obama's vp.
*points to signature*
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No apology needed. I figured that was what you were thinking.
I reluctantly voted here for Hillary Clinton. I say "reluctantly" because I am still super super super super annoyed that she didn't win her party's nomination. People keep saying that she proved there is no longer a glass ceiling; I say that her NEARLY winning the nomination but still LOSING it is evidence that the glass ceiling is still there. Until someone breaks THROUGH the glass ceiling, it is still there.
Clinton's wording of the situation, in which she says she put eighteen thousand cracks in the glass ceiling, is a lot more accurate. Accepting the vice-presidential spot on the ticket is not going to break through anything unless the Democrats win (which I imagine is nearly a lock). Sure. Fine. But in this country, we're already used to the idea of women being second-in-command. I am not disregarding the significance of a Black man possibly being elected to the Presidency; however, I think we could have taken ENORMOUS steps forward as a nation if we'd elected a woman President.
So whatever. I lost this one. I'll take the Vice-Presidency, but I'm not happy.
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Originally posted by scrivener View Postin describing Mrs. Clinton, you call her the former first lady
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I find it interesting that in describing Mrs. Clinton, you call her the former first lady, and not the two-term senator from New York.
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And at this point, only one of the three of us has voted. That may change by the time someone else reads this.
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