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  • Kaonohi
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    How Bloomberg's Million-Dollar Desire For Gun Control Is Backfiring (Part 1)

    From Forbes:

    With the midterms just over a month away New York City’s former mayor Michael Bloomberg is spending at least $50 million to make his gun-control agenda part of this election. His gun-control group Everytown for Gun Safety has endorsed more than 100 federal and state candidates. They are also running television commercials, holding events and pushing their studies into the newsrooms of a mostly favorable press.

    John Feinblatt, Everytown’s president, told USA Today, “We want gun safety to be an issue that people vote on.”

    John R. Lott, Jr. says he’s fine with that statement. He just wants people to know the truth about what really reduces violence before they vote. He says, “I can’t find a single study from Bloomberg’s groups that aren’t loaded with errors. They have an anti-gun agenda and will lie to achieve it.”

    Before getting to the inside story behind the politics, the piles of money being used to shape public opinion and to how the truth is stubbornly winning the debate despite—or because of—Bloomberg’s spin, I’d like to tell you how I first met John R. Lott, Jr. He is an important voice in this debate and this anecdote shows what kind of researcher he is.

    In 2006 I was at a cocktail party in Arlington, VA, talking to a liberal journalist about his soon-to-be-released book on Iraq when John Lott joined us. John listened for a moment and then said to the author, “I’m curious. You say you just finished a book on the Iraq war. I always find it so hard to finish a book. I get so deep into the research I have a hard time stopping to write. I’m guessing you had a hard time leaving Iraq. There is so much to investigate and understand.”

    The author said, “I didn’t go to Iraq.”

    John paused with this quizzical look on his face before asking, “Oh, how did you do your research?”

    The author said, “I didn’t have to do much. I mean, I already know what I think.”

    They were both so baffled with each other that, after an awkward silence, the liberal author shrugged and moved away.

    Lott, of course, entered the national stage in 1998 with his groundbreaking book More Guns, Less Crime. The book details his research that found that, despite what people are often told, violent crime rates actually tend to go down when states pass “shall-issue” concealed-carry laws. (Shall-issue laws force a licensing agent to give anyone a concealed-carry permit to carry a handgun as long as the individual passing certain criteria as stipulated by law.)

    As soon as the book was published a lot of academics made it their mission to prove Lott to be the fraud they were sure he must be. The thing is, the researchers kept finding that Lott is right.

    A study by Carlisle E. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell that was published in Econ Journal Watch in January 2009, for example, looked into Lott’s findings and determined: “Many articles have been published finding that shall-issue laws reduce crime. Only one article, by Ayres and Donohue who employ a model that combines a dummy variable with a post-law trend, claims to find that shall-issue laws increase crime. However, the only way that they can produce the result that shall-issue laws increase crime is to confine the span of analysis to five years. We show, using their own estimates, that if they had extended their analysis by one more year, they would have concluded that these laws reduce crime.”

    To continue his detailed search for the truth about guns in America Lott founded the Crime Prevention Research Center about a year ago. Lott has held research or teaching positions at the University of Chicago, Yale University, the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford University and Rice University. He has a Ph.D. in economics from UCLA.

    Lott says a few foundations and some individuals donated “a few hundred thousand dollars” to get his foundation started. His nonprofit “has 501(C)(3) status and does not accept donations from gun or ammunition makers or organizations such as the NRA.”

    Lott told me, “The NRA and other gun-rights groups are doing a lot of important things, but we decided to fill an influential niche by not taking money from either side.

    “Still,” Lott said, “honest research leads to real answers—not the political spin Bloomberg’s groups prefer.” Lott says because of this “the gun-control groups don’t want an honest debate. I’ve challenged Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun-rights groups [Everytown for Gun Safety and Mayors Against Illegal Guns] to debates many times but they always ignore me.”

    I’d found the same thing. While doing the investigative reporting for my book The Future of the Gun I spent a lot of time with police officers, gun-rights lobbyists, inner-city gang members, public-health experts, engineers at firearms manufacturers, victims of criminals with guns, heroes who’d stopped a bad guy with a gun … but though I tried and tried Bloomberg’s group wouldn’t even answer an email.

    When I told this to Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, he said, “If the gun-control groups can’t control the messaging they won’t even talk to you.” Gottlieb knows all about this, as he’s been publically asking Bloomberg and others who fund anti-gun-freedom legislation to debate him for years.

    The only responses Lott has gotten from Bloomberg’s people have been some “snarky Tweets from Shannon Watts,” says Lott. Watts is the founder of Moms Demand Action, a campaign funded by Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund.

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    Even kids are saving lives now!

    http://newsok.com/woman-stabbed-man-...rticle/5345087

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    Gas station clerk stops robbery, saves his life because of concealed carry.

    Stuff like this happens every day.

    http://qpolitical.com/ever-needed-pr...ns-save-lives/

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    The NRA, a "terrorist organization?" Let's get real here.

    Lay off the LSD and mushrooms.

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
    So...YOU can have a voice here, but you feel it's fair to insult Matapule for a different p.o.v.?

    Exactly the behavior that has driven me to (generally) avoid H.T. now. Tsk.
    Leo, all of us are entitled to our point of view. Even me, even Matapule. Gee, even you, saying that I'm insulting him. I'm not insulting him, just his posts.

    Guns save lives sometimes. I know one saved mine, and I didn't even have to fire a shot. I just had to cock it, and the intruder fled. No one killed, we avoided a burglary (and perhaps worse) and I know that a-hole will NOT be coming back.

    Matapule has me on ignore, anyway. How can I insult someone who has me on ignore?

    The "Gun Control" thread is one of the most prolific threads on HT, following Helen's food posts, I think it's #3.

    I also think Matapule is prejudiced (as am I) but misinformed (as I think I am not).

    Recent statistics show that gun violence is reduced when gun controls are relaxed. Maybe the USA should destroy all our nukes, as well? And leave us at the mercy of all other nuclear capable nations?

    Thank you for your input; you know I respect you.

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  • Leo Lakio
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    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by Kaonohi View Post
    HE'S BACK AGAIN!
    With more junk mail.....
    So...YOU can have a voice here, but you feel it's fair to insult Matapule for a different p.o.v.?

    Exactly the behavior that has driven me to (generally) avoid H.T. now. Tsk.

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    HE'S BACK AGAIN!

    With more junk mail.....

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  • matapule
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    Re: Gun Control

    The organization, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, is taking it to the terrorist organization NRA and their gun nut members and supporters. Read about this grass roots organization and the work they do. Matapule is a proud financially supporting member.

    Politicians can be bought by the terrorist organization NRA for $1,700 in lunches? I bet these decrepit scumbags could have been bought off for as little as a Big Mac.

    STRICT GUN CONTROL NOW!

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  • Ron Whitfield
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    Re: Gun Control

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...e-same-threat/
    Will there be cries for STRICT BEHEADING KNIVES CONTROL NOW!?

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  • TATTRAT
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  • Ron Whitfield
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    Strap it on!

    Originally posted by matapule View Post
    Please patronize those businesses that have taken a courageous stand against unmitigated gun nut bullying...
    ... and take a much higher risk of becoming another innocent victim that was unable to defend themselves against the growing number of nuts with guns running around willing to kill massively and indiscriminately.

    Arm yourself now!

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  • matapule
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    Re: Gun Control

    Today, Panera Bread was added to the growing list of businesses where guns are not permitted. Next to fall will be the Kroger chain of grocery stores. Please patronize those businesses that have taken a courageous stand against unmitigated gun nut bullying.

    The struggle continues but we shall overcome someday.

    STRICT GUN CONTROL NOW!

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  • Kaonohi
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    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by Ron Whitfield View Post
    Does this make sense to anybody?
    No. Radicals rarely make sense.

    Detroit recently relaxed gun control and their illegal shootings went down!

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  • Ron Whitfield
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    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by matapule View Post
    Again the only thing that scares me more than a bad guy with a gun is a "good guy" with a gun.
    Does this make sense to anybody?

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  • matapule
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    Re: Gun Control

    It is about time! A police officer has been suspended indefinitely for threatening peaceful demonstrators in Ferguson with a gun. He is obviously an arrogant, power hungry gun nut freak who does not qualify to wear the uniform of a police officer or to even own a gun. He is a volcano waiting to erupt. Again the only thing that scares me more than a bad guy with a gun is a "good guy" with a gun.

    STRICT GUN CONTROL NOW!

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